**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 23 02:59:58 2013
Jun 23 03:08:23 <m_billybob> whats bonetag again?
Jun 23 03:09:09 <m_billybob> I think i put that as a "goog link to know" on beaglefu but ive had so much going through my brain lately ,.  ..
Jun 23 03:09:17 <m_billybob> good link to know*
Jun 23 03:12:38 <Spirilis> bonetag = project to make the beaglebone black into the mother of all programmers/debuggers
Jun 23 03:12:49 <Spirilis> JTAG et al
Jun 23 03:14:12 <m_billybob> ah
Jun 23 03:14:30 <m_billybob> yeah nowits coming back i guess
Jun 23 03:14:48 <m_billybob> BBB as a remote debugger would be pretty cool
Jun 23 03:16:01 <m_billybob> I mean in the past whaty would one have to do ? buy dedicated hardware, or use a dedicated ( extra ) system for remote debugging right ?
Jun 23 03:16:17 <m_billybob> kind of like what could be done iwth the BBB but before those solutions didnt cost $45 ;)
Jun 23 03:20:48 <m_billybob> SO i think i have it down what needs to be done for iscsi booting on the bbb, but id need to rebuild the kernel( again ) make a couple of tweaks . . . and  kind of tired mucking around with remote booting now that I have it done so maybe a project for another time.
Jun 23 04:06:34 <FZombie> well my beaglebone blackhas booted debian and im still having an issue with the picture being larger than the monitor cutting lines/words off
Jun 23 04:07:04 <FZombie> I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to tell it to fit the monitor
Jun 23 04:07:18 <FZombie> in command line or in gui both do it.
Jun 23 04:09:09 <mranostay> morning
Jun 23 04:09:57 <emocakes> ok, it flashed correctly
Jun 23 04:10:01 <emocakes> now it doesnt fully boot
Jun 23 04:10:03 <emocakes> stays on
Jun 23 04:10:19 <emocakes> http://hastebin.com/laxawujoci.coffee
Jun 23 04:10:23 <emocakes> or is that correct?
Jun 23 04:10:42 <mranostay> what is a emo cake?
Jun 23 04:11:09 <emocakes> go figure mranostay
Jun 23 04:11:11 <emocakes> ...
Jun 23 04:11:31 <FZombie> after flashing did you remove the sd card to make sure you didnt accidently boot to something bugged on the sd
Jun 23 04:12:00 <emocakes> yup, sd card is out FZombie
Jun 23 04:13:34 <FZombie> I know my beaglebone was able to work after i  flashed the sd card and held the button while powering on, took like 10min for lights to light up, i removed the card, pulled the power, and then started it again and it worked fine
Jun 23 04:13:41 <DEEN_> Hi guys
Jun 23 04:13:45 <FZombie> I would md5sum your image
Jun 23 04:14:01 <FZombie> you could have been like me and had a bad sd card reader
Jun 23 04:14:11 <FZombie> i messed up 2 images because of cheap chinese made reader
Jun 23 04:14:22 <DEEN_> FZombie :) Can you help me?
Jun 23 04:14:36 <FZombie> I don't know, I can try
Jun 23 04:15:22 <FZombie> I'm new to beaglebone black but not new to linux.
Jun 23 04:15:53 <DEEN_> ?
Jun 23 04:16:05 <FZombie> whats your issue
Jun 23 04:16:17 <m_billybob> emocakes only one thing i can think of short of possible RMA. Try pressing the reset switch ( S2 )
Jun 23 04:16:19 <DEEN_> I have a BBB. usb memory mount issue
Jun 23 04:16:43 <emocakes> dammit m_billybob :(
Jun 23 04:16:45 <DEEN_> It seems like a bug .... mount and unmount   Just  two Time
Jun 23 04:16:58 <DEEN_> Sorry my english  speak bad;;
Jun 23 04:17:43 <DEEN_> My BBB uname -a  -->  Linux beaglebone 3.8.13 #1 SMP Wed Jun 5 11:21:00 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
Jun 23 04:18:00 <m_billybob> emocakes, well im by far not an "expert" with the hardware so maybe Robert Nelson or koen know somethign i dont id still post on the forums to see whats up, but it almost seems like mmc is not workign because of that one pin
Jun 23 04:18:14 <m_billybob> whatever gpio.pin7 *is* im unsure
Jun 23 04:19:03 <Sammy> bone_d64.exe problem
Jun 23 04:19:14 <FZombie> type 'mount' and see if it lists your device, if not, you may want to use a partition software to remove partitions and repartition the sd
Jun 23 04:20:21 <DEEN_> FZombie//  No My usb to serial(Aten UC232-A) same that
Jun 23 04:21:06 <Guest73897> The drive just can't install and 'The current language is not supported... ' display on screen, I tried to disable the unsigned on the window start up but failed all the time - I'm using Win 8(64bit) anyway.
Jun 23 04:23:26 <Guest73897> Any one have idea what's wrong with the BONE_D64.exe installation on Win 8 - even with the unsigned selected for win 8 start up
Jun 23 04:28:36 <m_billybob> win8 would be the problem.
Jun 23 05:00:12 <mranostay> heh so bitcoin is crashing
Jun 23 05:01:49 <_av500_> mranostay: no early retirement for you
Jun 23 05:06:12 <mranostay> what is retirement?
Jun 23 05:23:40 <voe> out of curiosity, if i hook up my bbb to my pc for power, can i still use hdmi and usb hub?
Jun 23 05:23:56 <voe> or does my bbb become a client only type thing?
Jun 23 05:31:24 <_av500_> no
Jun 23 05:31:28 <_av500_> its just for power
Jun 23 05:31:48 <_av500_> well and doing USBish stuff
Jun 23 05:32:20 <baboo> yeah
Jun 23 05:32:27 <baboo> i just tested it
Jun 23 05:32:30 <baboo> for usb
Jun 23 05:32:39 <baboo> it works
Jun 23 05:32:58 <baboo> if a flash drive works
Jun 23 05:33:04 <baboo> a usb hub will
Jun 23 05:40:52 <mranostay> av500: ew i forgot how bad blueberry beer is
Jun 23 05:42:50 <_av500_> no comment
Jun 23 05:43:55 <mranostay> _av500_: would that even be legal in .de?
Jun 23 05:52:18 <Mode-M> mranostay: at least it would never be called beer in .de
Jun 23 05:54:15 <m_billybob> bier ;)
Jun 23 05:57:19 <ka6sox-away> baboo, usb hubs don't always work...
Jun 23 06:14:15 <mranostay> ka6sox-away: are you guys like in the same physical room?
Jun 23 06:17:01 * mranostay trolls through the ACPI spec
Jun 23 08:45:00 <spookypookie> quick question. whats the current state of the Black availibility? im looking to order and dont want to wait an extra 3 weeks they didnt tell me about when i ordered it
Jun 23 08:45:50 * spookypookie ordered some RPis a few months ago and had to wait almost an entire extra month lead time
Jun 23 08:47:26 <spookypookie> lead time adafruit didnt feel the need to tell me about till i called to ask where the heck my order was.
Jun 23 08:48:52 <dm8tbr> check the other distributors then
Jun 23 08:49:21 <dm8tbr> they get their boards in batches from the production line as quickly as they can churn them out
Jun 23 08:50:04 <spookypookie> well yeah. but i was wondering if anyone had some information about whod be the best bet to go through, or who to stay away from
Jun 23 08:50:40 <dm8tbr> all the main distributors seem to work fine.
Jun 23 09:01:59 <cityLights> koen: here?
Jun 23 09:36:05 <_av500_> mranostay: legal yes, beer no
Jun 23 11:56:04 <funkrusha_> hi
Jun 23 11:56:49 <funkrusha_> can someone tell me whats the difference on the beagleboard black with the VDD_5V and the SYS_5V?
Jun 23 11:57:12 <funkrusha_> on one of both i can receive a higher current A is that right?
Jun 23 11:57:57 <funkrusha_> or is the VDD_5V to supply the beagleboard with 5V?
Jun 23 11:58:11 <funkrusha_> both VDD_5V did not output anything on my board
Jun 23 11:58:17 <funkrusha_> only the sys_5v
Jun 23 12:11:33 <funkrusha_> or can somebody give me a link where i can get more information, to find out more?
Jun 23 12:11:42 <mrpackethead> how goes trolls
Jun 23 12:20:17 <_av500_> goes good
Jun 23 13:31:19 <cityLights> hi all
Jun 23 13:31:37 <cityLights> can anyone please assist me with wifi on the BBB?
Jun 23 13:31:47 <cityLights> I think its a race condition
Jun 23 13:32:18 <cityLights> because ifup starts wpa_supplicant
Jun 23 13:35:23 <cityLights> so when I boot the BBB with a wifi USB adaptor , I see wpa_supplicant is up and wlan0 has no IP address
Jun 23 13:35:48 <cityLights> pkill wpa_sup , then ifup wlan0 and the device gets an IP
Jun 23 13:37:07 <martinm> does the silly thing need firmware downloaded?  a lot of wifi crap does, and it'll sit there not transmitting until it gets it
Jun 23 13:37:22 <cityLights> right
Jun 23 13:37:46 <cityLights> I am not sure on what is the flow untill ifup is issued on wlan0
Jun 23 13:38:22 <cityLights> I would also be able to workaround this if I new how to issue a script up-on startup
Jun 23 13:38:43 <cityLights> the script will pkill the existing wpa_sup then issue ifup wlan0
Jun 23 13:38:50 <martinm> not sure about usb connected adapters, but internal ones will often post a complaint about missing firmware that you can find in dmesg
Jun 23 13:38:52 <cityLights> but the root cause is better
Jun 23 13:39:05 <cityLights> right
Jun 23 13:39:50 <martinm> okay, beyond this I guess it's down to the specifics of what you've got.  good luck!  :-/
Jun 23 13:51:31 <emocakes> got it working
Jun 23 13:51:37 <emocakes> had to run the mmc script manually
Jun 23 13:51:45 <emocakes> then wait like 1 1/2 hours for it to flash
Jun 23 14:56:49 <cityLights> who is starting the wpa service?
Jun 23 14:56:54 <cityLights> how can I find out
Jun 23 14:57:01 <cityLights> /etc/systemd/system/networking.service -> /dev/null
Jun 23 14:59:27 <cityLights> who starts wpa_supplicant.service ? and we does it enable after I disable it?
Jun 23 15:09:49 <cityLights> we is the eth0 loads on boot yet wlan0 is not?
Jun 23 15:09:54 <cityLights> how to add it?
Jun 23 15:17:48 <cityLights> ok, here is how to get wireless working:
Jun 23 15:18:08 <cityLights> /bin/systemctl stop wpa_supplicant.service ; ifup wlan0
Jun 23 16:05:48 <baboo> has anyone got minecraft to run on the BBB?
Jun 23 16:06:55 <baboo> because it's arm
Jun 23 16:09:21 <baboo> as in the client
Jun 23 16:36:17 <baboo> :(
Jun 23 16:41:46 <ka6sox> baboo...less minecraft..more pinmux (then you can get a new computer you want :) )
Jun 23 16:43:33 <baboo> yay1
Jun 23 16:43:37 <baboo> yay!
Jun 23 16:43:49 <baboo> sorry, i got distracted
Jun 23 16:55:16 <emeb> you guys have all the fun. I get to solve differential equations today.
Jun 23 16:55:36 <baboo> oh :p
Jun 23 16:56:31 <emeb> not so bad - learning something new.
Jun 23 16:56:44 <baboo> yep
Jun 23 16:57:03 <baboo> i learned a bit of trig last year
Jun 23 16:58:51 <emeb> trig is fun! sines! cosines! identities!
Jun 23 17:01:07 <baboo> arctan!
Jun 23 17:01:15 <baboo> tan!
Jun 23 17:02:49 <emeb> SOH CAH TOA
Jun 23 17:03:30 * baboo thinks emeb is speaking alien
Jun 23 17:03:53 <emeb> yep - trigonometrese.
Jun 23 17:04:00 <baboo> oh
Jun 23 17:04:07 <baboo> :D :p
Jun 23 17:35:53 <myself> oh hey I should've said all that in here
Jun 23 17:36:10 <myself> so, the 2x23-pin stacking headers for capes are unobtanium. I can't find odd numbers anywhere.
Jun 23 17:36:27 <myself> Best I can do is a 2x3 adjacent to a 2x20.
Jun 23 17:36:51 <myself> Anyone got a source for these things?
Jun 23 17:43:01 <emeb> adafruit: http://www.adafruit.com/products/706
Jun 23 17:44:22 <eliasbakken> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?WT.z_header=search_go&lang=en&site=us&keywords=SAM1204-23-ND&x=-988&y=-51
Jun 23 17:44:38 <eliasbakken> But they are value added products
Jun 23 17:44:47 <emeb> and qty 0
Jun 23 17:45:10 <emeb> since basically samtec makes them to order
Jun 23 17:55:44 <_Sy_> hello alll
Jun 23 17:55:48 <chimp54321> hello
Jun 23 17:56:30 <chimp54321> anyone have any experience running minecraft servers off the beaglebone
Jun 23 17:57:46 <_Sy_> got clustering of two bbb's working now...didn't use corosync and pacemaker in the end, rolled my own :)
Jun 23 18:02:44 <kilroi> I got this when I tried connman for the first time
Jun 23 18:02:45 <kilroi> root@beaglebone:/usr/lib/connman/test# ./get-services
Jun 23 18:02:45 <kilroi> root@beaglebone:/usr/lib/connman/test#
Jun 23 18:02:45 <kilroi> on BBB with
Jun 23 18:02:45 <kilroi> root@beaglebone:/usr/lib/connman/test# uname -a
Jun 23 18:02:45 <kilroi> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13 #1 SMP Wed Jun 5 11:21:00 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
Jun 23 18:02:47 <kilroi> It wasn't what I virtually expected. Suggestions?
Jun 23 18:06:54 <_Sy_> very quiet here today
Jun 23 18:07:03 <baboo> yeah
Jun 23 18:09:38 <KotH> av500: do kids in germany still learn the "old" handwriting as we did?
Jun 23 18:19:26 <mranostay> morning
Jun 23 18:20:02 <baboo> mroning!
Jun 23 18:20:05 <baboo> :D
Jun 23 18:27:45 <dm8tbr> moaning
Jun 23 18:54:21 <ZubairLK> hello
Jun 23 18:54:34 <ZubairLK> anyone knowledgable about BBB with 3.8 kernel ?
Jun 23 18:54:38 <ZubairLK> Any kernel I compile and tftpboot myself  results in missing usb0 entries 192.168.7.2 ..
Jun 23 18:54:42 <ZubairLK> If i load the uImage-dtb-am335x-boneblack file. I manage to tftp boot. but no usb0 (dont need it. but i'm trying to replicate the stock kernel functionality first)
Jun 23 18:54:46 <ZubairLK> Even if I try to load the uImage file that came with the bbb.
Jun 23 18:54:48 <ZubairLK> TFTP boot doesnt work and gives  Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID (r1 = 0x00000e05).
Jun 23 18:54:52 <ZubairLK> uEnv is
Jun 23 18:54:54 <ZubairLK> optargs=quiet drm.debug=7
Jun 23 18:54:58 <ZubairLK> ipaddr=192.168.0.250
Jun 23 18:55:00 <ZubairLK> serverip=192.168.0.1
Jun 23 18:55:02 <ZubairLK> #run tftpboot 0x80200000 uImage
Jun 23 18:55:04 <ZubairLK> #uenvcmd=run loaduimage run loadfdt run mmcargs bootz 0x802800000 - 0x80F80000
Jun 23 18:55:08 <ZubairLK> bootargs=console=ttyO0,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
Jun 23 18:55:10 <ZubairLK> uenvcmd=echo "Booting from Network";tftpboot 0x80200000 uImage; bootm 0x80200000
Jun 23 18:55:14 <ZubairLK> Toolchain could be code sourcery  or the one OE generates
Jun 23 18:55:16 <ZubairLK> but i'm not sure as  i have confused them up and dont remember which folder I compiled with which toolchain
Jun 23 18:58:56 <ZubairLK> koen: ping
Jun 23 19:26:24 <voe> finally got debian on my bbb
Jun 23 19:26:36 <ZubairLK> +1
Jun 23 19:26:47 <voe> turns out i wasn suppose to follow those instructions on my bbb
Jun 23 19:26:59 <voe> i fount an image and put it on sd card
Jun 23 19:27:26 <voe> this windows->linux transition is a headache... :)
Jun 23 19:27:37 <m_billybob> ZubairLK -> http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/beaglebone-black-network-boot/ maybe the uenv.txt on this page will give some insight
Jun 23 19:28:06 <ZubairLK> m_billybob: i'll look into it. Thankyou
Jun 23 19:28:17 <m_billybob> im booting debian . . .but uenv should be similar
Jun 23 19:28:36 <m_billybob> the tftpd setup should apply as well
Jun 23 19:29:13 <m_billybob> but again . . . my support system is debian
Jun 23 19:48:26 <m_billybob> ZubairLK, to answer your question more closely. Booting from USB is not possible on the BBB, or so I'm led to believe. First its not supported by the hardware, andthe current version of uboot doesnt support it either
Jun 23 19:49:04 <ZubairLK> I'm actually not interested much in booting the whole filesystem
Jun 23 19:49:18 <ZubairLK> more interested in kernel booting only as i'm changing the kernel
Jun 23 19:49:38 <m_billybob> ok kernel booting can be done over netboot via ethernet
Jun 23 19:51:57 <m_billybob> in the case of my own example uenv.txt file there you only need to worry about ipaddr, serverip then . . .
Jun 23 19:52:00 <m_billybob> loadtftp=tftpboot 0×80200000 /boot/uImage; tftpboot 0x815f0000 /boot/am335x-boneblack.dtb
Jun 23 19:52:04 <m_billybob> and finally
Jun 23 19:52:31 <m_billybob> uenvcmd=setenv autoload no; run loadtftp; run netargs; bootm 0×80200000 – 0x815f0000
Jun 23 19:52:40 <m_billybob> run loadtftp;
Jun 23 19:52:43 <m_billybob> and bootm
Jun 23 19:53:19 <m_billybob> instead of run netargs you'd do something like run loadmmc
Jun 23 19:54:08 <m_billybob> or run mmcargs
Jun 23 19:54:11 <m_billybob> mmcargs=setenv bootargs console=${console} root=${mmcroot} rootfstype=${mmcrootfstype}
Jun 23 19:54:47 <m_billybob> mmcroot=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro
Jun 23 19:54:47 <m_billybob> mmcrootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc
Jun 23 19:57:46 <m_billybob> ZubairLK this also may be helpful -> http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=include/configs/am335x_evm.h;hb=HEAD#l57
Jun 23 19:58:39 <ZubairLK> i see. so thats why i cant boot if the uimage isnt there or ethernet isnt connected
Jun 23 19:58:48 <ZubairLK> but i dont want to  mess with uboot yet..
Jun 23 19:58:57 <ZubairLK> thanks
Jun 23 20:00:46 <m_billybob> ZubairLK, trust me i know what you mean lol. it took me a couple weeks off and on in my spare time to get netboot / netroot working
Jun 23 20:00:58 <ZubairLK> :)
Jun 23 20:01:00 <m_billybob> piecing stuff together from all cornings of the internet
Jun 23 20:01:21 <m_billybob> corners*
Jun 23 20:03:25 <m_billybob> but now i have a better understanding of how uboot / uEnv.txt work. still not an expert though
Jun 23 20:04:18 <_av500_> KotH: no
Jun 23 21:18:21 <radius9> How does one debug device tree overlay problems?
Jun 23 21:20:02 <radius9> My pinmux doesn't seem to get applied, not sure if I put in wrong addresses or what
Jun 23 21:27:20 <KotH> _av500_: "blockschrift" only?
Jun 23 21:33:16 <_av500_> zuerst
Jun 23 21:33:21 <_av500_> handschrift erst danach
Jun 23 21:37:17 <KotH> _av500_: und was für eine handschrift ist das?
Jun 23 21:42:20 <kilroi> Sütterlin
Jun 23 21:42:59 <KotH> sütterlin wird schon seit dem zweiten weltkrieg nicht mehr unterrichtet
Jun 23 21:43:00 <_av500_> :)
Jun 23 21:43:10 <_av500_> KotH: keine Ahnung
Jun 23 21:43:14 <_av500_> irgendwieschrift
Jun 23 21:43:17 <KotH> eh..
Jun 23 21:43:26 <KotH> google&co schweigen sich recht darüber aus
Jun 23 21:43:27 <_av500_> schräeg Normschrift :)
Jun 23 21:43:31 <_av500_> schräge
Jun 23 21:43:34 <KotH> hab' keine angabe gefunden
Jun 23 21:43:38 <_av500_> wie es sich gehört
Jun 23 21:44:13 <KotH> immer noch die lateinische ausgangsschrift wie anno dunemals?
Jun 23 21:45:05 <_av500_> KotH: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vereinfachte_Ausgangsschrift
Jun 23 21:45:10 <_av500_> die da glaube ich
Jun 23 21:45:35 <KotH> ok.. also doch noch ned so anders
Jun 23 21:45:36 <KotH> danke!
Jun 23 21:48:57 <_av500_> http://www.derwesten.de/region/grundschulverband-will-schreibschrift-abschaffen-id7230113.html
Jun 23 21:49:24 <_av500_> http://www.derwesten.de/panorama/wie-sinnvoll-ist-es-schreibschrift-zu-lernen-id4847862.html
Jun 23 21:52:29 <KotH> domo
Jun 23 21:58:34 <emeb> gracias
Jun 23 21:59:17 <emeb> who let all these moon-men loose in the channel with their crazy foreign lingo?
Jun 23 22:00:26 <KotH> ich chan au problemlos i de landessproch schriibe, wenns den umbedingt sii mues
Jun 23 22:00:47 <KotH> ;)
Jun 23 22:01:42 <emeb> google translate throws its hands up in disgust and stomps out of the room
Jun 23 22:01:49 <KotH> hehe
Jun 23 22:02:05 <KotH> i would be surprised if it could translate swiss german :)
Jun 23 22:02:36 <emeb> probably doesn't handle spanglish either.
Jun 23 22:09:23 <mastiff> what's a good way to remotely run python scripts on the BBB, say for reading a sensor value to a webpage?
Jun 23 22:10:06 <mastiff> i've got it working with fabric, but seems clunky and not designed for that use case
Jun 23 22:13:00 <_av500_> node.js
Jun 23 22:15:24 <emeb> bad-ass rockstar tech
Jun 23 22:39:37 <Sphier> hi
Jun 23 22:39:43 <Sphier> hello All
Jun 23 22:40:06 <Sphier> Is this new beagle having PWm ports?
Jun 23 23:48:01 <wmat> it's damn hot out
Jun 23 23:48:09 <wmat> for ontario
Jun 24 00:15:55 <Russ> wmat, ontario CA, or CA?
Jun 24 00:16:00 <Russ> er, CA, or .ca?
Jun 24 00:16:49 <Russ> I'm guessing .ca by the hostname
Jun 24 00:17:14 <emocakes> california!
Jun 24 00:17:23 <Russ> geez, it is, the whether in ontario CA is much nicer
Jun 24 00:17:25 <Russ> er, weather
Jun 24 00:26:09 <wmat> Russ: heh, .ca
Jun 24 00:26:19 <wmat> Russ: waterloo, on, canada
Jun 24 00:27:21 <wmat> it was about 41C with the humidex here today
Jun 24 00:32:21 <DDC> has the latest Angstrom emmcFlasher incorporated a usb hotplug fix?
Jun 24 00:34:55 <wmat> DDC: not to my knowledge
Jun 24 00:35:05 <wmat> DDC: but you could always just try it
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