**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 19 02:59:59 2013 Aug 19 03:05:45 trlls Aug 19 03:13:13 jkridner: if you keep that "bit", and save another 7 you'll have a byte Aug 19 03:13:14 distracted.... back now Aug 19 03:13:32 mrpackethead: oh? Aug 19 03:13:49 yes, lets start a bit market Aug 19 03:13:53 were we could trade bits Aug 19 03:15:31 Lee201: do you have a full log? Aug 19 03:15:52 I haven't seen that issue with oebb.sh in specific, no. Aug 19 03:16:28 your file system good? Aug 19 03:17:18 mru: note to self - pumpkin ale and burritos don't go well together.... Aug 19 03:17:32 prpplague: :-) Aug 19 03:17:40 scotch ale and IRC go together nicely. Aug 19 03:17:44 jkridner: generating one now... Aug 19 03:20:40 jkridner: getting prepared for a fun week? Aug 19 03:20:54 every week is a fun week. :-) Aug 19 03:23:12 weekends are funny Aug 19 03:23:16 dont cha know Aug 19 03:24:12 jkridner: http://pastebin.com/y8eQdyjE Aug 19 03:25:48 s effing glad i dont touch angstrom anymore Aug 19 03:26:52 m_billybob: what do you use? i'm pretty new to beagleboards, so any insight to better solutions would be helpful Aug 19 03:27:31 Well, use what you like to use, but i am just saying i hated screwing aroudn with the "sngstrom build process" Aug 19 03:27:42 ah Aug 19 03:27:43 I use debia nwheezt though Aug 19 03:27:51 debian wheezy* Aug 19 03:28:32 I spent a week trying ot build angstrom from source, and the lack of up to date instructions drive me buts Aug 19 03:28:43 err drove me nuts Aug 19 03:28:48 prpplague: ew Aug 19 03:29:03 hey there fancy beer troll guy Aug 19 03:29:13 * m_billybob waves at mranostay Aug 19 03:29:52 mranostay we're slumming big time tonight. milwaukee's best light :P Aug 19 03:30:45 oh christ Aug 19 03:30:57 damn hipsters Aug 19 03:31:10 Lee201, anyhow you can pretty much use whatever you like, so if you have a favorite distro, you can more than likely put that on the BBB Aug 19 03:32:37 Debian fedora ubuntu ARCH gentoo and i think slackware too not to mention the "non linuxes" that run on it as we'' Aug 19 03:32:52 wow, that's good to know Aug 19 03:33:10 err run on it as well Aug 19 03:33:36 Lee201: did you try to run any builds? Aug 19 03:34:38 m_billybob: the beast is to beer that nodejs is to programming :P Aug 19 03:35:14 mranostay webUI abstraction, tell me how you do that well ever ? Aug 19 03:35:28 i don't want too Aug 19 03:35:34 Lee201: looks like the tag from meta-xilinx isn't valid anymore... but, you probably don't use that layer. Aug 19 03:35:35 you have perl, dotn even get me started on perl, you have php . . . Aug 19 03:35:49 the whole field is litered with garbage Aug 19 03:36:09 m_billybob: php isn't bad it is just the noobs that write it Aug 19 03:36:25 php as a l;anguage is no better than javascript Aug 19 03:36:31 Lee201: looks like the Danny branch isn't there either. Aug 19 03:36:35 on meta-linaro. Aug 19 03:36:58 jkridner: danny i harely knew ye? Aug 19 03:38:13 mranostay, anyhow i learned a long time ago, that yeah i am a code snob too, but sometimes somethign that are what we might consider garbage, are best used to *some* things Aug 19 03:38:50 best used to do some thigns. i dont exactly like writting web app stuff, but my project requires it Aug 19 03:39:24 jkridner: after the config, i run an update, which also gets errors (log: http://pastebin.com/6mqMkrSS) followed by the bitbake command, which aborts with fatal errors (log: http://pastebin.com/L8nhfcw8) Aug 19 03:39:50 i don't think i have a proper source tree to do a build yet Aug 19 03:41:02 Lee201: looking at layers.txt, there is reference to the 'danny' branch. Aug 19 03:41:14 looking at https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/meta-linaro, there is no 'danny' branch. Aug 19 03:41:23 :/ Aug 19 03:41:28 yes, they're definitely in the layers.txt file. i've tried modifying those to read "master" instead, Aug 19 03:42:21 i got errors when doing that as well Aug 19 03:42:23 https://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=openembedded/meta-linaro.git has one.... not sure why koen didn't clone it in his new clone. Aug 19 03:50:26 should i replace my meta-linaro entry with that link in my layers.txt? Aug 19 03:58:05 probably, to get moving. Aug 19 03:58:29 deserves a google to see if koen explained his patch to move to a fork of meta-linaro Aug 19 03:59:11 i've definitely been googling most of the messages i'm getting, but i haven't found much. Aug 19 04:00:30 but i'm new to much of this, so i may not have searched for the right stuff in addition to my precise error messages Aug 19 04:01:03 i saw some queries about this patch ... https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/setup-scripts/commit/66e40ddfe62f9f67263aaf82014e12b682351182 Aug 19 04:04:22 * jkridner looks at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/beagle/beagle.20130525.txt Aug 19 04:05:23 ooh, this appears relevant Aug 19 04:07:17 up to date "instructions" not necessarily exact steps would come in real handy me thinks Aug 19 04:08:39 problem i found was that some stuff was out of date, and tons of information all over the place did not work, or match from one set of instructions to the next . . . made me personally very frustrated Aug 19 04:11:27 Lee201: ah... Aug 19 04:11:33 looks like the branch you are on is old... Aug 19 04:11:47 seems the old branch got broken. :-( Aug 19 04:11:50 oh? Aug 19 04:12:11 Lee201: yeah... look at the angstrom-v2013.06-yocto1.4 branch of setup-scripts.... Aug 19 04:12:20 if you use that one, I think the layers.txt should be valid. Aug 19 04:12:28 sucks that the old one is broken. Aug 19 04:43:20 this branch definitely seems better, although i'm getting an error during the update step: Aug 19 04:43:28 "WARNING: meta-ti is using a different branch 'master' than configured in layers.txt 'angstrom-staging-yocto1.4'" Aug 19 04:48:02 just hand-modifying layers.txt to "master" seems to have solved that though Aug 19 04:49:34 building! thanks jkridner for your help :) Aug 19 04:50:06 glad it helped Aug 19 05:05:03 * mranostay is back Aug 19 05:17:06 heh...all this Angstrom building has run me out of disk space. off to resize some partitions :P Aug 19 05:24:50 buy a hard drive Aug 19 06:19:46 trolls Aug 19 06:19:50 trolls Aug 19 06:21:19 Brup Aug 19 06:41:00 Hi all! How I can get TDA19988 datasheet? It is required to write graphics driver for QNX using Beaglebone Black device. Thanks in advance! Aug 19 06:57:01 heh Aug 19 06:57:45 lmike: yeah nobody wants to get sued by NXP here Aug 19 07:11:05 lmike, not gonna happenhere. Aug 19 07:34:54 my e-mail: mike.gorchak.qnx at gmail.com, thanks in advance for TDA19988 datasheet :) Aug 19 08:00:57 a wonderfull, JIHADistic monday moroning! Aug 19 08:01:05 gm koth Aug 19 08:01:10 hoi woglinde Aug 19 08:01:16 woglinde: komme stei? Aug 19 08:01:26 I am a quarter century old today :( Aug 19 08:01:27 ? Aug 19 08:01:49 das haha Aug 19 08:02:34 woglinde: "come stai" auf kanakisch ;) Aug 19 08:02:44 ? Aug 19 08:02:52 woglinde: "wie geht's" ^^; Aug 19 08:03:03 um Aug 19 08:03:05 das: poor boy... you've still so much to learn Aug 19 08:03:20 ka6sox: since when do you live in the european timezone? Aug 19 08:03:37 achtung morgen alles verboten keine sorgen sturm und drang cafe excellente Aug 19 08:03:38 KotH he so old he only needs 2 hours sleep Aug 19 08:03:51 +is Aug 19 08:04:22 KotH: will I be linearly depressed or is it logarithmic ? Aug 19 08:04:42 das logarithmic Aug 19 08:04:55 yay ! Aug 19 08:13:03 help me out guys.. is there an easy to use DIP IC for reading 2-4 thermocouples.. :P Aug 19 08:13:41 that's kind of a broad question Aug 19 08:13:42 what is DIP? Aug 19 08:13:57 in principle, sure. Aug 19 08:14:07 you may need several. Aug 19 08:14:13 woglinde: dual inline package? Aug 19 08:14:28 at least I think it means that :D Aug 19 08:14:31 (noob alert) Aug 19 08:14:37 Vaizki: depends on the circuit you want Aug 19 08:14:45 das: square root Aug 19 08:15:26 low input offset quad opamp rail-rail, setup to multiply *100 Aug 19 08:15:30 well I just need to get a few easy temp reading into BBB / msp430 / or similar Aug 19 08:15:40 why thermnocouokes Aug 19 08:15:46 thernocouokes Aug 19 08:15:49 ... Aug 19 08:15:52 thermal coconuts? Aug 19 08:16:02 couples Aug 19 08:16:05 toasty toadnuts? Aug 19 08:16:11 new ubuntu release? Aug 19 08:16:15 who stole the coconut? Aug 19 08:16:45 SpeedEvil: well I thought they are so common that there must be a gazillion chips to use out of the box :) Aug 19 08:17:07 yes, but there are easier ways Aug 19 08:17:19 four one wire temperature sensors Aug 19 08:17:33 bt Aug 19 08:17:42 if you don't need more than -20 to 120c Aug 19 08:17:47 yea but this is for a smoker/grill thingy, I need ones that will withstand up to 400°C Aug 19 08:18:02 o.O Aug 19 08:18:06 then a quad opamp to boost voltagfe Aug 19 08:18:12 samrt grill? Aug 19 08:18:21 from the thermocouple, then read into an ADC Aug 19 08:18:31 does the beagle have ADCs? Aug 19 08:18:33 woglinde: something like that Aug 19 08:18:35 SpeedEvil: sure Aug 19 08:18:44 perfect burgers Aug 19 08:19:20 my sous vide is fine with a ds18b20 because it never goes above 100 :) Aug 19 08:19:57 SpeedEvil: I'll have to investigate that. I suck at electronics. I was looking at this: http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/00001154B.pdf Aug 19 08:20:01 multiply by 1000 with the opamp, to get about 10mv/c, then connect to an ADC Aug 19 08:20:02 but it's a bit overkill Aug 19 08:20:51 vastly Aug 19 08:20:54 that circuit + pt100 .. :) Aug 19 08:21:17 does the beagle have four 0-3.3v ADCs? Aug 19 08:21:29 1.8v Aug 19 08:21:58 I think there are 7 with 12bit resolution Aug 19 08:22:51 OK, then the idea is to multiply your voktagfe up into the 0-1.8v range Aug 19 08:23:09 for which you need about a *200 amp Aug 19 08:23:34 basically your stock negative feedback opamp circuit. Aug 19 08:23:59 for k-thermocouples? Aug 19 08:24:25 with a gain of 200, set by two resistors, and a low input offset voltage Aug 19 08:24:27 yes Aug 19 08:25:04 afk, picking up broken glass. ##electronics may be better Aug 19 08:27:05 ok thanks.. a bit wary of wiring directly into the BBB ADCs, don't want to fry them.. but let's see. I was surprised there weren't any ready made I2C chips to read temp probes that would be widely used. maybe it's just too simple a circuit :) Aug 19 08:45:15 ahoi Aug 19 08:47:40 av500: ausgezeichnet. Aug 19 08:48:29 wos? Aug 19 08:49:02 Vaizki: The easy way is a 1K resistor in series with the input to the ADC, with a 1uF capacitor to ground. This will greatly slow input speeds, but will work well for thermocouples. - a protection circuit Aug 19 08:52:41 av500: mr. burns sagt "ahoi" und "ausgezeichnet" Aug 19 08:57:53 Vaizki: http://www.analog.com/en/all-operational-amplifiers-op-amps/operational-amplifiers-op-amps/op491/products/product.html - for example may suit, though has somewhat higher than desired offset DIP really limits Aug 19 09:07:27 av500 ahoi brause Aug 19 09:22:01 hi Aug 19 09:22:10 anyone here? Aug 19 09:23:02 no. Aug 19 09:23:17 He's right. Nobodiy is here. Aug 19 09:23:55 here? where is here? Aug 19 09:25:12 woglinde: depends. Aug 19 09:27:24 hi folks! i'm desinging a breakout board for the beaglebone black. i'd like to have an usb host connector on the breakout-board, but cant find the usb_dp / usb_dm among the pins. a soulution would be to unsolder the usb-host connector, but i guess it would void the warranty. do you know an easier way? Aug 19 09:33:49 A 5cm lead with a plug on it Aug 19 09:34:01 ^- that Aug 19 09:34:05 I have no idea if the pins are otherwise broken out Aug 19 09:34:09 hi Aug 19 09:34:17 any one has idea about initramfs? Aug 19 09:34:19 The easy way to do it is to inspect the schematic Aug 19 09:34:36 any one has idea about initramfs? Aug 19 09:37:23 initramfs? Aug 19 09:37:48 aww he left already, I was getting ready to be entertained :-( Aug 19 09:38:46 off to carpetbomb another channel no doubt Aug 19 09:41:38 SpeedEvil : unfortunatelly there's no space in the enclosure for this :( one more hope, if they can ship it without the connector... is it an option or just a dream? :) Aug 19 09:42:05 unsolder Aug 19 09:42:39 you can also order one without the connector, but for the extra price you can just buy another one if your solder job goes wrong Aug 19 09:42:55 its not rocket surgery Aug 19 09:43:27 hm I have an idea about initramfs Aug 19 09:43:34 but thats my idea Aug 19 09:44:01 av500 : ok, i see :) Aug 19 09:49:08 aphex: you said "you'd like" to have it.. if it's an enclosure for specific app, are you sure you need usb? Aug 19 09:59:06 jackmitchell: remember this ? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9vLm6BRT Aug 19 09:59:24 got fixed by setting the governor to performance Aug 19 10:00:09 the kworker bug is produced by cpsw.c while transitioning to a higher cpu frequency Aug 19 10:05:47 Vaizki : sorry i was not 100% clear. currently i just designing the board, the enclosure will be the next task. but, it has to be as small as it can, thus no space for that extra 5 cm :( Aug 19 10:07:02 aphex: https://www.google.de/search?q=angled+usb+connector&client=ubuntu&hs=oXi&channel=cs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=MO4RUrX7FImg7Ab4sIGgCw&ved=0CEYQsAQ&biw=1918&bih=971 Aug 19 10:07:10 thank you for the help, i guess, i will put 2 holes on the pce above the connector, and i will unsolder the connector only if its needed :) Aug 19 10:07:32 pce->pcb Aug 19 10:08:05 aphex: lots of angled conenctors there that would add <1cm Aug 19 10:08:48 LetoThe2nd : really nice option, thx! Aug 19 10:11:33 or you can hack together something with a ribbon cable? Aug 19 10:18:28 Vaizki : that would be the nasty way : D Aug 19 10:20:08 or just buy USB connectors that have solder points.. Aug 19 10:20:13 something like http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/szymtec/product-detailLoDEzRdlJrcY/China-USB-Connector-AM-Solder-Short-Type-.html Aug 19 10:23:59 yes, i agree, using a small connector is far the clearest i can do. btw, with this method i can also have a hdmi connector on the pcb as well :) Aug 19 10:24:41 ouch Aug 19 10:24:49 you do not want to hand solder hdmi Aug 19 10:26:08 that's true... : / Aug 19 10:26:35 and you can't call it hdmi unless you have the cable etc tested... Aug 19 10:28:21 Vaizki: nah, you just can't use the hdmi logo Aug 19 10:28:38 Vaizki: Alternatively - mount on your pcb a couple of pogo pins to touch the USB pins. Aug 19 10:29:07 i can call my Hydrogenated Defensive Mega Injector HDMI as long as i want to. Aug 19 10:30:18 LetoThe2nd I won't buy it Aug 19 10:30:30 woglinde: don't worry, it'snot for sale anyways. Aug 19 10:34:05 pogo pins, yes! i can connect to the solderabe connector with them :) awsome! Aug 19 10:39:33 how well does the Beaglebone Black support RT Linux? Aug 19 10:39:52 the bbb does not support rt linux Aug 19 10:39:59 but rt linux might support the bbb Aug 19 10:40:16 benjamindees the question is which rt you need Aug 19 10:40:27 there is this rt and this rt Aug 19 10:40:42 and there is the other rt too Aug 19 10:42:22 and there is rt in what it means and rt in what you think it is :) Aug 19 10:43:20 LetoThe2nd koth already said it Aug 19 10:43:57 woglinde: KotH always already said it ;) Aug 19 10:45:05 hey! i dont talk _that_ much! Aug 19 10:45:25 not? ;) Aug 19 10:46:21 well.. maybe ^^' Aug 19 10:46:26 \o/ Aug 19 10:47:57 morning all Aug 19 10:49:43 this PRU thing sounds interesting Aug 19 10:50:27 JIHAD! m_billybob Aug 19 10:50:58 Merry Christmas ;) Aug 19 10:55:06 hi billybob Aug 19 10:55:24 so benjamindees found his rt Aug 19 11:06:14 does anyone here know much about the BBB Linux build? I'm trying to understand how Arago, OpenEmbedded, Yocto, PSP, EVM and a bunch of other stuff relates to what you get as provided by default in the BBB? Aug 19 11:15:11 it comes with angstrom on the emmc Aug 19 11:15:20 angstrom is yocto compatible Aug 19 11:15:26 whatever the hell that means Aug 19 11:15:39 yocto has something to do with openembedded Aug 19 11:16:08 but nobody knows quite what yocto is Aug 19 11:16:17 the people in charge will only tell you what it is not Aug 19 11:17:15 isnt yocto puppy just that it isnt ? Aug 19 11:17:40 yocto is a puss according to koen 3d printer! Aug 19 11:19:14 mru: yes this is the trouble I'm having :) Aug 19 11:19:36 Looking here: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software Aug 19 11:19:41 you can put whatever you want on it of course Aug 19 11:19:54 The default image is available here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/angstrom/demo/beaglebone/BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.20.img.xz Aug 19 11:20:13 mru: yep - but I'm just using the BBB as a lesson in building linux from scratch Aug 19 11:20:31 the actual Linux From Scratch project doesn't seem to applicable to the ARM processors Aug 19 11:21:02 last year I asked the Wind River people what Yocto is .. a lot of babbling and very little that my technical mind could grasp Aug 19 11:21:19 I'm not entirely sure what code base I need to use for the kernel though Aug 19 11:21:39 there a kernel git tree on github Aug 19 11:21:47 there's this: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8 Aug 19 11:21:54 yeah, use that Aug 19 11:22:01 why does everyone who comes to the channel want to compile their own kernel Aug 19 11:22:16 better question is, why do they all fail? Aug 19 11:22:26 ok, message taken Aug 19 11:22:27 cya Aug 19 11:22:29 yea there's that.. but why. Aug 19 11:22:51 to get a different configuration perhaps Aug 19 11:24:05 possibly.. or they don't realize that the kernels already out there can do what they need without rolling their own Aug 19 11:24:26 I usually need to tweak something or other Aug 19 11:25:12 not that I'm against compiling your own kernel, just seems like a disproportionate amount of people show up and the first part of their project is compiling a kernel Aug 19 11:25:30 it's usually the first thing I do with a new board Aug 19 11:25:39 kinda hard to do anything at all without a kernel Aug 19 11:26:05 yea well would you log on to an irc channel to ask how to do it? Aug 19 11:26:15 no Aug 19 11:27:54 some abstraction must be missing(on x86 people don't). I have been thinking about the same questoins poping up every hour or so also on the mailing list. In the past I have used a KB / FAQ type website to answer those questions. The problem is of course that there are multiple answers :P Aug 19 11:28:35 in part the problem is that these people don't actually know what they want Aug 19 11:28:40 much less what they need Aug 19 11:28:44 the the questions seam legit. only finding the answer isn't always. take the eMMC and external SD-card on the BBB Aug 19 11:29:30 I have only found one case where I would have liked to recompile the kernel for the BBB, so far been happy with the stock Arch kernel images Aug 19 11:29:52 mru: also true but that is because there some things are incomplete/unsolved if there where only one way to togle the GPIO's we would not have so much hassle. Aug 19 11:29:57 I've always built my own kernels Aug 19 11:30:03 and even in that case I just built the driver I needed as a module against kernel headers Aug 19 11:30:06 since 1995 or so Aug 19 11:30:36 yea in the 90's I did too.. but most people have no need to Aug 19 11:30:49 I don't want the bloated distro kernels Aug 19 11:31:30 sure. but as I said, you're not popping in on IRC channels asking someone to hold your hand through it Aug 19 11:32:10 people seem to expect there to exist a set of #exactsteps by which they can become instant experts Aug 19 11:32:14 so just thinking out loud, why are these people seeing a custom kernel as their solution while they'd probably never do it on a laptop pc. Aug 19 11:33:30 mru: like, take this bag of "instant expertise mix", dissolve in vodka, drink, and be an expert? ;) Aug 19 11:33:36 ok so maybe some of them got it as a school project.. some think they need to recompile the kernel to get i2c working or stop the leds from blinking.. etc Aug 19 11:33:43 I gave up building a kernel for the TI keystone dsp chip Aug 19 11:33:57 Vaizki: on x86 it is certainly true but if you follow the kind of things people do here you sometimes end up the "o yes you will have to write a kernel driver for this" or you just need to modify the device tree Aug 19 11:34:02 Vaizki yocto is the intel project you can buy support for Aug 19 11:34:24 and it is the stable distrp + some bsp's Aug 19 11:34:47 keesj: yes, sometimes. I have been there myself. but it's a bit scary that they want to write kernel drivers and have no idea how to compile the kernel. Aug 19 11:35:35 and it doesn't help that LDD3 is so out of date it isn't even funny Aug 19 11:37:02 on a different topic, google now is funny at times Aug 19 11:37:43 just now, out of the blue, it suggests that I want to go to london waterloo station Aug 19 11:37:58 ? Aug 19 11:38:02 they just want something to work not write a kernel driver and perhaps the answer should read "this is not possible unless you are a kernel haxor" or some other answer we can expect them to be able to follow Aug 19 11:38:14 maps suggest you where to go? Aug 19 11:38:18 mru, do it ! it might change your life ... g-now might know something you dont ! Aug 19 11:38:26 woglinde: Google Now does Aug 19 11:38:37 sometimes it's eerily accurate Aug 19 11:38:48 and sometimes it's outrageously wrong Aug 19 11:39:37 like whenever I arrive at the airport in stockholm, it pops up directions to the friend's place I usually go Aug 19 11:40:01 or rather the library next door Aug 19 11:40:13 deus ex machina ... :) Aug 19 11:40:23 as if I didn't know how to get there Aug 19 11:41:27 I will not use it Aug 19 11:42:16 I enabled it to see what it did Aug 19 11:42:36 it can do more useful things too Aug 19 11:42:43 that don't require location tracking Aug 19 11:43:00 like if you pull it up near a bus stop or train station it shows departure times Aug 19 11:44:48 hm if I am near I can look at the printed table Aug 19 11:45:04 assuming there is one Aug 19 11:45:20 hm Aug 19 11:45:22 and you're standing within, say, 2 feet of it Aug 19 11:45:30 I do not leave germany this much Aug 19 11:46:37 and all bus stations i know have printed tables on them :) Aug 19 11:46:47 stations, yes Aug 19 11:46:53 bus stops not always Aug 19 11:47:12 and there are the turkish ones, where there are no printed tables, but even if there would be, the busses would not depart at that time Aug 19 11:47:13 and sometimes they do, but someone has destroyed it Aug 19 11:47:30 of course buses never run to schedule anyway Aug 19 11:47:36 * KotH doesnt go to 3rd world countries that often Aug 19 11:47:45 in .ch they do :) Aug 19 11:47:46 do swiss buses run on time? Aug 19 11:48:01 hm we have digital signs on some line now Aug 19 11:48:12 on rush houry they have usually 1-2min of delay, 5min when it's really bad Aug 19 11:48:18 hour* Aug 19 11:48:23 woglinde: we have those here too, and they're always wrong Aug 19 11:48:30 a couple of bus routes in stockholm are almost always on time Aug 19 11:48:38 but only because there is no set time table Aug 19 11:49:07 they start the route every 5 minutes and hope for the best Aug 19 11:49:31 lol Aug 19 11:49:40 it works surprisingly well Aug 19 11:49:49 mru: remember the metro schedules in .jp? Aug 19 11:49:56 what about them? Aug 19 11:50:04 they are on time! Aug 19 11:50:09 I never thought about the schedules Aug 19 11:50:17 usually off by less than 30s Aug 19 11:50:38 I once saw trains delayed by over 30m around osaka Aug 19 11:51:06 what happend? some tunnel collapsed? or earthquake? Aug 19 11:51:18 unexpected heavy snowfall during the night Aug 19 11:51:25 Hi all. Aug 19 11:51:49 I can't data out to P9_28. Aug 19 11:51:57 Help me. Aug 19 11:52:05 heh.. yeah that can be the beginning of a bad day Aug 19 11:52:33 I can other data out to other pins. Aug 19 11:52:51 which pins? Aug 19 11:52:52 But can't P9_28 Aug 19 11:53:00 * mru did not know that 'data' was a verb Aug 19 11:53:02 on xeno389? Aug 19 11:53:03 in .ch we once had really havy snow fall. within 24h we had 1.5m snow (standing, not fallen) in the middle of z�rich... rural areas had up to 5m Aug 19 11:53:13 it was the day when .ch stood still Aug 19 11:53:54 also the time when people choose to go skiing in the middle of z�rich :) Aug 19 11:54:10 koth faster than running Aug 19 11:54:12 BBB Aug 19 11:54:36 woglinde: running? in >1m snow? when was the last time you have seen snow? ;-) Aug 19 11:54:37 Tsooj you have looked up the TRM? Aug 19 11:55:00 koth that's why I said its faster than running Aug 19 11:57:56 Anyone help me? Aug 19 12:03:14 tsooj 5 seconds of googeling gives http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16872763/configuring-pins-mode-beaglebone Aug 19 12:05:20 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/213 Aug 19 12:15:36 the_dude: ah, good stuff Aug 19 12:15:50 the_dude: glad you got it fixed Aug 19 12:29:02 * KotH curses tft producers Aug 19 12:29:09 * KotH even ncruses them Aug 19 12:29:58 KotH: that a harry potter thing right ? Aug 19 12:30:03 * SpeedEvil sighs. Aug 19 12:30:13 * SpeedEvil wants 4:3 laptops. Aug 19 12:32:37 * mru doesn't actually Aug 19 12:35:00 4:4 then Aug 19 12:35:14 1:1 ? Aug 19 12:37:45 16:9 or 16:10 is fine Aug 19 12:38:17 if you ever tried using a laptop in an airplane seat you'd agree Aug 19 12:38:40 I have been on an airplane once. Aug 19 12:38:49 once? Aug 19 12:38:53 how does one fly just once? Aug 19 12:39:04 twice I could understand Aug 19 12:39:31 It was one purchase. Aug 19 12:39:39 mru oneway Aug 19 12:39:49 woglinde: yes, sure Aug 19 12:39:52 from africa to somehwere else Aug 19 12:39:57 but usually you fly back too Aug 19 12:48:32 o_0 Aug 19 12:48:41 SpeedEvil: how do you get from A to B? Aug 19 12:48:52 SpeedEvil: or have you never left the town you live in? Aug 19 12:49:30 koth he never left the town he moved too Aug 19 13:04:15 hmm, freescale.com email is handled by some weird microsoft service Aug 19 13:04:26 and said service refuses mail from my IP address Aug 19 13:05:15 they know they dont to talk to you, you are evil, you have a vendor tree! Aug 19 13:05:31 how could I possibly have a vendor tree? Aug 19 13:05:35 I'm not a vendor Aug 19 13:06:00 ok, then you are evil without a vendor tree Aug 19 13:06:49 KotH: Drive. Aug 19 13:07:03 KotH: But there are unfortuante other issues meaning I don't travel much Aug 19 13:07:23 i dont travel much either Aug 19 13:07:36 but i lost count of how many times i flew somewhen in highschool... Aug 19 13:07:43 can you drive to japan? Aug 19 13:07:51 See above issues. (Chronic fatigue syndrom) Aug 19 13:07:53 e Aug 19 13:08:03 that doesn't sound pleasant Aug 19 13:08:06 afaik there is a path where you can go using ferries from .ru Aug 19 13:08:19 I doubt Aug 19 13:08:34 there are ferries between japan and korea Aug 19 13:09:00 but I doubt there's a ferry from alaska to russia Aug 19 13:09:19 you can drive over the straight in winter Aug 19 13:09:33 seems risky to cross the Bering on a boat Aug 19 13:09:46 there are lots of turkish lorry drivers who use that path to bring cheap wood from alska to .tr Aug 19 13:09:58 koth lol Aug 19 13:10:04 * KotH is not joking Aug 19 13:10:41 but why they dont buy wood in china and bring it to .tr is beyond me Aug 19 13:11:32 Chinese wood is fake wood made from grass. Aug 19 13:13:28 but at least it's all natural Aug 19 13:13:34