**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 31 02:59:58 2013 Aug 31 03:56:23 any pru device tree people present? Aug 31 03:57:35 in BB-BONE-PRU-03-00A0.dts, under the "SYSEVENT ids" label, i'm seeing event 17 being listed as "pru0_pru1", but according to the datasheet, that's pru_evtout_1. Aug 31 03:57:49 so, is there some sort of random offset? Aug 31 04:00:11 Hmmmm Aug 31 04:09:46 https://show.zoho.com/published.do?rid=b0tmjd21ccd2824464d57afaede48a96dd18f&id=1703625000000004104 is what I used to get my interrupts to the arm. Aug 31 05:00:19 hello everybody Aug 31 05:00:55 I want to use this battery to power beaglebone http://www.adafruit.com/products/830 Aug 31 05:01:45 what device should I use to connect this battery to beaglebone 5.5mm/2.1mm Aug 31 05:09:15 is this one ok? http://www.adafruit.com/products/1329#Description Aug 31 05:09:17 so, how are we supposed to fire up the pru, mux the pins Aug 31 05:09:45 and use your own interrupt handler with uio_pruss not having shared interrupts? Aug 31 05:10:11 this is all so incredibly non-general. it's tied together so tight you can't do anything even slightly out of the ordinary. Aug 31 05:10:36 i guess uio or bust...ro something. Aug 31 05:11:35 I can't seem to SSH into my beaglebone anymore, I have changed not a single setting on the board, this all seems to have happened when I attempted to create a GPIO device, any ideas? Aug 31 05:11:50 create a gpio device? Aug 31 05:12:09 Yes Aug 31 05:12:51 so,http://www.adafruit.com/products/1329#Description and http://www.adafruit.com/products/830 can not connect together? Aug 31 05:13:36 6v is too much for the 5v input Aug 31 05:14:06 if you don't have any capes, 6v would probably be fine. Aug 31 05:14:29 normal range for pmic is up to 5.8, but it's tolerant to 20V, and it's all ldos Aug 31 05:14:39 so, only worry would be if you had capes that couldn't handle it. Aug 31 05:15:35 yes,which device can I use to tied with that battery to connect with beaglebone 5.5mm/2.1mm? Aug 31 05:15:52 NangV: batteries like that wont last all that long. Aug 31 05:16:46 yes,because tied like that is not steady? Aug 31 05:16:51 Splat: what do you mean create a gpio device? Aug 31 05:17:45 NangV: no, because the beaglebone uses quite a bit of power. Aug 31 05:18:35 NangV: sitting there doing absolutely nothing, it'll last at most 20 hours with duracell. full load it'll last 4. Aug 31 05:18:39 6v is too much? Aug 31 05:19:15 normal limit should be 5.8V, but 6V is probably fine. Aug 31 05:19:34 unless you're using a cape. Aug 31 05:19:45 the cape might not be able to handle 6. Aug 31 05:20:37 I need some external device that can tied with that battery,then it should be like this,http://www.adafruit.com/products/67 Aug 31 05:21:09 there is red and balck wires Aug 31 05:21:48 wow, so if you load then remove then load the included dtbo for the pru...bam, kernel crashes. this is fucking rad. Aug 31 05:22:55 I can tie the red and black wire to that kinds of header,but I can not find that kind of device. Aug 31 05:23:52 NangV: i have no idea what you're saying. Aug 31 05:27:19 how to say that thing on the battery connected to beaglebone 5.5mm/2,1mm Aug 31 05:28:18 it's a plug. what about it? Aug 31 05:30:07 if I get a plug,I can tied the plug with the battery through red and black wires,then use the plug to plug in beaglebone 5.5mm/2.1mm Aug 31 05:30:34 but I can not find where can I buy a plug like that Aug 31 05:31:49 didn't you just send a picture of one? Aug 31 05:33:11 yeah,this is the battery that has red and black wires,http://www.adafruit.com/products/830 Aug 31 05:34:18 but I did not find a plug that can be tired with that red and black wires Aug 31 05:34:26 NangV: http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/cable-assemblies/barrel-power-cables/1573698?k=2.1mm%20power&stock=1 Aug 31 05:35:15 NangV: the wires don't have to be colored. black goes to negative, red goes to positive. Aug 31 05:35:24 the center part has to be positive for the beaglebone. Aug 31 05:35:48 thanks Aug 31 05:36:42 NangV: digikey.com and mouser.com for your electronics needs. Aug 31 05:37:02 thanks Aug 31 05:37:54 if I seach this kinds of plug on that website next time,I just type plus keyword is ok? Aug 31 05:39:26 I searched for "2.1mm power plug" Aug 31 05:40:03 I looked at the beaglebone schematic, saw that p1 was the power plug, then looked at the bom for p1. Aug 31 05:40:08 and saw it was a 2.1mm plug Aug 31 05:40:46 thanks Aug 31 05:47:57 * spikebike attemps to put in a home security/automation BBB order together Aug 31 05:52:15 http://www.adafruit.com/products/369 ,this plug is also ok to be tied with this battery through wires ?, http://www.adafruit.com/products/830 Aug 31 06:12:52 don't forget the 6pack of clue Aug 31 06:13:04 prehaps even consider the 24pack case Aug 31 06:15:18 not enough clue to go around these days Aug 31 06:25:24 ds2, emeb_mac I'm convinced they don't teach that anymore... Aug 31 07:26:41 what's up with the p9 mux table in the srm? Aug 31 07:27:44 pins 41 and 42 have two etnries. Aug 31 07:27:53 but only in the bbb srm, not the bbw Aug 31 07:29:45 ..and it's in all the srm revisions, so i assume it's on purpose. Aug 31 07:31:16 nomel, yes, if you look at the schematics you will find *both* pins attached there. Aug 31 07:31:32 that was a compromise that was done in the design Aug 31 07:31:49 and its the same for the BBW iirc. Aug 31 07:32:10 ahh, interesting. Aug 31 07:32:21 and, i can't read. just sawit right above the table. Aug 31 09:07:52 * norbi says hi to everyone Aug 31 09:08:04 hey Aug 31 09:13:52 * dm8tbr says moo Aug 31 09:15:00 av500: you need that: http://store.griffintechnology.com/powerdock-5-device-charger Aug 31 09:15:43 what do you think, phyton is suitable for commercial applications? as far as i know its only recommended for prototyping Aug 31 09:16:45 huh? Aug 31 09:17:16 <3 python Aug 31 09:21:20 dm8tbr: huh? Aug 31 09:21:21 norbi: that's a very ...uhmm... uninformed question Aug 31 09:21:39 KotH: ? Aug 31 09:21:50 norbi: python might or might not be the right language for you, but that doesnt matter whether you use it on beagle or not but on what you are actually doing Aug 31 09:22:01 norbi: and it cannot be answered in a general fashion Aug 31 09:22:23 KotH: ive learned at college that phy is for prototyping... it can be used at anything but its goal to make apps very fast but they arent for deployment../ Aug 31 09:22:37 KotH: yea i know that Aug 31 09:22:45 KotH: but every language has its purpose Aug 31 09:22:48 norbi: forget anything what you have learned at college and start thinking yourself Aug 31 09:23:15 python is fine for commercial/production environments Aug 31 09:23:23 as is any mature language Aug 31 09:23:27 KotH: thats why you have to decide if it fits your needs or not, but phy was created for commercial apps? no, i guess only for proto, thats why im asking your opinion about it Aug 31 09:23:45 norbi: no language is created for commercial apps Aug 31 09:23:47 norbi: none Aug 31 09:23:51 there are commercial applications written in VisualBasic, your argument is invalid. ;) Aug 31 09:24:20 ok thx, thats why i asked, boostedcabbage kinda ansered my question Aug 31 09:24:29 except for vb Aug 31 09:24:43 boostedcabbage: why are u hating vb? Aug 31 09:24:50 dm8tbr: vb? that's nothing... i know commercial apps that cost >1000usd/year and are build ontop of access and another one, not as expensives in filemaker Aug 31 09:24:50 because it has aids Aug 31 09:25:20 KotH: I'm not the least surprised Aug 31 09:26:07 might well hate php as well while we're at it Aug 31 09:26:15 +as Aug 31 09:26:25 * KotH hates all languages equally Aug 31 09:27:36 <3 php Aug 31 09:27:36 well.. my cape prototype seems to work well. now to just make something nice that isn't a rats nest Aug 31 09:50:18 boostedcabbage: to annoy people I like to prototype web-APIs as BASH CGIs Aug 31 09:51:02 quick, dirty, inefficient Aug 31 10:10:05 * hno tries to avoid getting started on the language flamewar. Aug 31 10:22:37 <_av500_> KotH: need it for 15.... Aug 31 10:25:55 Hey, what brand of SDHC micro cards are you using with your beagle? I've got a Transcend SDHC 16G, Class 10, and I can't boot archlinux-arm from it. I have read that people used a different brand and it worked better. Aug 31 10:26:40 <_av500_> no Aug 31 10:26:46 <_av500_> brand does not matter Aug 31 10:26:51 Ah... Aug 31 10:27:11 Ok, I also got a Transcend 32GB, class 10 here... Will try that one Aug 31 10:43:13 Brand matters signifficantly. Aug 31 10:43:28 random access speeds - especially write - varies lots between cards. Aug 31 10:45:28 What's the reason that sometimes card can boot and other times they cannot? I was able to use my micro sdhc card for flashing the emmc but I can't use it for booting archlinux-arm... Aug 31 10:48:37 <_av500_> content of the card Aug 31 10:48:39 aha Aug 31 10:48:44 _av500_: https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/KernelArchived/Projects/FlashCardSurvey Aug 31 10:49:21 <_av500_> speed yes Aug 31 10:49:30 <_av500_> but not boot vs no boot Aug 31 10:49:40 oh - misread Aug 31 10:49:43 * SpeedEvil is not awaek Aug 31 11:08:00 /me got a class 4 uSD with his beagle, interesting that they give away a class 4 uSD for this Aug 31 11:08:05 lol Aug 31 11:08:09 * norbi got ** Aug 31 12:07:23 hm, where can one easily buy USB to RS232 TTL Converter in the US now (during the weekend) Aug 31 12:09:07 av500: get 3 of them :) Aug 31 12:11:11 ynezz: microcenter Aug 31 12:11:26 if you have one near Aug 31 12:13:14 maybe fry's if you are out west Aug 31 12:13:39 nope, I'm not in the US, but he's from Salt Lake Aug 31 12:13:53 ahh Aug 31 12:14:24 maybe going to brick one router, so just in case Aug 31 12:14:27 :) Aug 31 12:14:41 thanks Aug 31 12:15:08 good lucl though Aug 31 12:15:11 er luck Aug 31 12:15:23 he might even still try radio shack Aug 31 13:13:10 can anyone suggest an alternative to doxygen, I just need something simple and concise Aug 31 13:13:43 *for documenting a C api Aug 31 13:14:25 there aint none Aug 31 13:14:31 and doxygen is simple Aug 31 13:14:35 though not really a fit for c Aug 31 13:17:05 yeah, that was the conclusion I came to Aug 31 13:17:35 I might just have configured doxygen wrong, it's picking up the files, but not documenting anything except one random struct Aug 31 13:19:49 thats weird Aug 31 13:19:52 it should do better Aug 31 13:20:24 jackmitch|home: check the output it usually says what it does (not) scan Aug 31 13:21:23 it complains about that one struct, not being documented, but it should just carry on, right? and at least generate 'skeleton' docs Aug 31 13:41:10 <_av500_> jackmitch|home: hint, doxygen does not write documentation by itself Aug 31 13:41:16 <_av500_> you are still supposed to do that yourself Aug 31 14:06:52 _av500_: heh, yeah, I thought it might just list all the functions it found with no documentation, but I still don't know 'cause it isn't even listing documented functions. I might switch over to kernel doc; I hate the HTML doxygen generates anyway Aug 31 14:13:38 so.. if i recompile a new 3.8.13 kernel how should i generate a new uinitrd? Aug 31 14:17:08 So is it true that Beagleboard is entirely open source and can run some linux distributions? Aug 31 14:18:22 Powermaniac: i run slackware on my beaglebone black Aug 31 14:18:36 have run debian on it too Aug 31 14:18:40 Okay but is it definitely completely open source? Aug 31 14:18:51 If so where do I sign up! haha Aug 31 14:19:33 Powermaniac: hmm.. good question.. havent looked lately to see if the firmware is Aug 31 14:20:00 So are the schematics etc. for the chips on the board available? Aug 31 14:20:32 Powermaniac: no, board design and most of the software is open source Aug 31 14:20:48 Powermaniac: chips and their design are proprietary Aug 31 14:21:27 Damn. Trying to find open source hardware that can run say linux. As then I can do something with it. Aug 31 14:21:49 Powermaniac: it runs Linux, just don't expect to see the schematics of the SoC Aug 31 14:22:06 That's the thing I want to know how everything about it works. Aug 31 14:22:21 And then design my own bits and pieces from those schematics Aug 31 14:22:23 There are open source processor designs out there Aug 31 14:22:36 I don't know anything about them though Aug 31 14:22:41 Oh okay Aug 31 14:22:57 Google is not getting me very far this time around. Aug 31 14:23:28 I think you would struggle to know everything, I would start with one thing and then progress from there as and when needed Aug 31 14:23:54 jackmitch|home: I like Sphinx, https://libcork.readthedocs.org/en/latest/subprocess from https://raw.github.com/redjack/libcork/develop/docs/subprocess.rst Aug 31 14:24:16 but I plan to use it for next lib, so no actual experience yet Aug 31 14:24:25 ynezz: ah, that looks a lot cleaner; thanks! Aug 31 14:24:32 Well I still like the idea of it being open source regardless. As well people are less less likely to do questionable things infront of peering eyes. Aug 31 14:24:49 jackmitch|home: I don't like docs in the code directly Aug 31 14:25:03 ah, so this is kept external Aug 31 14:25:13 and you update it as you update the code Aug 31 14:26:40 yep Aug 31 14:26:54 Well thanks anyway! Aug 31 14:28:51 * Tenkawa tries to compile his kernel yet again Aug 31 14:30:12 ynezz: your friend find the cable they were looking for? Aug 31 14:55:01 uggh Aug 31 14:55:15 cant figure out which one of these kernel images to use Aug 31 14:56:41 here goes nothing... Aug 31 14:58:23 woohoo!! Aug 31 14:58:28 success Aug 31 14:58:48 * KotH pats Tenkawa on his head Aug 31 14:58:52 hahaa Aug 31 14:58:54 here, have a piece of chocolate Aug 31 14:59:06 thanks Aug 31 14:59:48 well now that works i can concentrate on tuning Aug 31 14:59:55 cheers all Aug 31 15:39:07 anyone know which kernel options affect the detection of the emmc? Aug 31 15:39:28 i cant see mmcblk1 with my latest kernel experiment Aug 31 15:42:08 that is so odd too.. it sees mmcblk0( my sd card) just fine Aug 31 15:43:19 is the emmc technically a cape? Aug 31 15:43:37 i disabled the capes Aug 31 15:47:10 i think thats it..rebuilding with support Aug 31 15:58:38 yep that fixed yet Aug 31 15:59:49 good afternoon Aug 31 16:06:10 Hi ! Aug 31 16:06:17 greetings Aug 31 16:06:34 I'm a new owner of a beaglbone black Aug 31 16:06:48 excellent... Aug 31 16:06:55 and a few minutes ago I did something stupid Aug 31 16:07:03 * Tenkawa has been working on his a lot Aug 31 16:07:09 what happened? Aug 31 16:07:23 I connected it to my pc Aug 31 16:07:55 than I installed ubunta with the diskmanager32 on the beaglebone Aug 31 16:08:13 it took a few seconds and now Aug 31 16:08:24 it doesen't start anything Aug 31 16:08:46 if I connect it now my pc can't install any drivers for it Aug 31 16:08:59 Yes I now it was very silly Aug 31 16:09:14 did you install to emmc or sd? Aug 31 16:09:21 emmc Aug 31 16:09:49 i wont be ablw to help much... i only use sd Aug 31 16:09:57 BBB's are considered unbrickable; however you may need to set up an SD card to reflash it Aug 31 16:10:18 Right, you just need to make a flasher SD card Aug 31 16:10:21 and re-install it Aug 31 16:10:30 and note that you must first press the "boot button" _then_ apply power Aug 31 16:10:37 and that includes the USB cable provided power Aug 31 16:10:48 oh ok Aug 31 16:10:51 and be sure to have a dedicated 5V supply, USB might not be enough for reflash Aug 31 16:11:04 Indeed Aug 31 16:11:07 and what kind of software should I installl on the sd card ? Aug 31 16:11:33 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack#Updating_the_eMMC_Software Aug 31 16:12:08 it's not a particularly fast process, set aside an hour-plus Aug 31 16:12:24 hey.. can i use a thumb2 kernel on the bbb? Aug 31 16:12:41 er, sorry old link Aug 31 16:12:43 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software Aug 31 16:12:47 Is the one you want, for re-flashing Aug 31 16:13:23 * Tenkawa is trying to squeeze everything he can out of the kernel Aug 31 16:13:32 oh yes that look like much more better than many things I found Aug 31 16:13:39 thank you very much Aug 31 16:13:40 Tenkawa, yes, and it may or may not be a win Aug 31 16:14:13 Tartarus: whats the main assembly impact? or is it across the board impact? Aug 31 16:14:37 yeah i like tweaking Aug 31 16:14:40 Tenkawa, well, how familiar are you with what thumb2 is and is not? Aug 31 16:14:58 Tartarus: actually i need to do a lot of reading Aug 31 16:15:05 Tenkawa, then there's your answer :) Aug 31 16:15:16 It is a valid choice you can make, yes Aug 31 16:15:22 just noticed it as an option.. Aug 31 16:15:23 but if it will benefit you, you need to read and test Aug 31 16:15:27 yeah Aug 31 16:15:33 afk, helping herd cats^Wchildren towards lunch Aug 31 16:15:39 hehehh Aug 31 16:15:50 * Tenkawa has 5 kids too Aug 31 16:15:58 cats that is Aug 31 16:16:07 so i know herding Aug 31 16:19:09 ok.. thanks for the info.. afk too Aug 31 16:43:36 <_SY_> hello Aug 31 16:43:40 <_SY_> anyone here today? Aug 31 16:45:11 <_SY_> guess not Aug 31 16:45:20 <_av500_> no Aug 31 16:45:22 <_av500_> ll gone Aug 31 16:45:27 <_SY_> :) Aug 31 16:45:36 <_SY_> been very quiet in here recently Aug 31 16:46:24 everyone has the new beaglebone orange, which we're evaluating. hence not much time for IRC. Aug 31 16:49:03 orange? Aug 31 16:49:10 cyan Aug 31 16:49:12 and I am still looking at the yellow Aug 31 16:53:37 <_SY_> g2g, gardening work to do, cya Aug 31 18:41:26 <_SY_> evening Aug 31 18:45:34 Which linux distributions are there that already have an image to put on an SD card? I've tried to create the ALA image for the second time on a different SD card but it doesn't work either. Aug 31 18:45:53 So, if you want an SD card for beaglebone white/black for a distro Aug 31 18:46:02 you need to find the ones for the board already Aug 31 18:46:04 sec.. Aug 31 18:46:13 angstrom? Aug 31 18:46:40 re Aug 31 18:47:19 ok, for angstrom Aug 31 18:47:25 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software Aug 31 18:47:53 hi Tartarus Aug 31 18:47:53 if you want something else, see http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack#Software_Resources Aug 31 18:47:58 hey woglinde Aug 31 18:51:47 that was a nice computer/calc and so much ahead of his time Aug 31 18:51:50 http://zuse.zib.de/imeji/z1 Aug 31 19:14:10 If I insert an SD card while the bb is running on Angstrom/eMMC will this be automounted? I can't see it though. Nor is mentioned in dmesg... Aug 31 19:31:41 Hi Aug 31 19:34:50 recently I got the BeagleBoneBlack for some project purpose. I am looking for minimal kernel and rootfs with UART,GPIO and LAN only. where can i Aug 31 20:21:07 love it when people not even finish their question before quitting .. Aug 31 20:23:46 Me Aug 31 20:37:52 could anyone suggest a video camera that works fine on beagle bone? Aug 31 21:27:52 mornign trolls, trollites, hobbits and elves Aug 31 21:28:10 be warned that goblins are being smelled Aug 31 21:37:58 good night Aug 31 21:38:26 not that i'm leaving just saying hi Aug 31 21:58:08 hello Aug 31 21:58:48 hi Aug 31 22:06:43 right, looking to have an embedded LAMP server Aug 31 22:06:51 beaglebone black or Pi ? Aug 31 22:44:57 hi guys. I just flashed my BBB with the latest flasher. ran opkg update, then opkg upgrade, now I can not SSH into my board. Should "upgrade ever be run? or is this dangerous? Sep 01 00:31:20 hi guys. I just flashed my BBB with the latest flasher. ran opkg update, then opkg upgrade, now I can not SSH into my board. Should "upgrade ever be run? or is this dangerous? Sep 01 01:09:48 bluetrep: you can't you cna't trash your bbb flashing it Sep 01 01:26:46 anyone here? Sep 01 02:30:45 how do I make the leds stop flashing? Flashing leds are causing puppies to attack my BBB puppy cam. They've taken it out three times already. Sep 01 02:31:25 Or just turning down brightness alot would be best solution. Sep 01 02:34:45 mastiff_, http://beaglebone.cameon.net/home/using-the-user-leds Sep 01 02:37:32 Tartarus, I have no leds-gpio directory in /sys/devices/platform/ Sep 01 02:37:50 running debian Sep 01 02:38:11 keep googling around, I imagine there's a general answer to what happens when the subsystem gets updated and where things live now Sep 01 02:38:12 bbl Sep 01 02:55:09 mastiff_ black marker pen, scribble over the leds. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 01 02:59:58 2013