**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 03 02:59:58 2013 Sep 03 03:06:19 hi guys Sep 03 03:06:37 i buy my BBB and power supply and micro SD Sep 03 03:07:06 but my eMMC is corrupted Sep 03 03:07:19 my img flasher is not boot Sep 03 03:07:37 someone could help-me? Sep 03 03:36:52 For the past couple of days I have been working with Angstrom on beagleboard Sep 03 03:37:15 But now I have switched to Ubuntu 13.04 Sep 03 03:37:40 and none of my applications are running now Sep 03 03:38:12 I used eclipse CDT to cross compile my applications Sep 03 03:38:35 they were working fine on Angstrom now they give following error Sep 03 03:39:05 ubuntu@arm:~$ ./helloWorld Sep 03 03:39:07 -bash: ./helloWorld: No such file or directory Sep 03 03:39:40 ldd ./helloWorld Sep 03 03:40:21 not a dynamic executable Sep 03 03:40:36 but file helloWorld gives Sep 03 03:40:49 helloWorld: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.31, BuildID[sha1]=0xf5d43bb716734237eb067635cc0478a6fb445ba3, not stripped Sep 03 03:41:30 Kenzei: most likely the toolchain you have used is not linking against the same shared libraries Sep 03 03:43:26 I was using the standard "arm-linux-gnueabi- " for the compilation Sep 03 03:43:36 and it worked fine with Angstrom Sep 03 03:45:47 Kenzei: because whatever you were using was linking against compatible libraries Sep 03 03:46:41 I did some digging my self and found that this generally occours when there is a version difference (32-/64-bit) Sep 03 03:47:31 prpplague : thanks for the reply. I will try to figure out why this is happening Sep 03 03:47:32 keatont: heeh Sep 03 03:47:39 prpplague hello Sep 03 03:47:57 keatont: sorry, autonick complete failure Sep 03 03:53:56 prpplague no prob. Sep 03 04:05:28 Hows everyone doing. Sep 03 04:05:36 Wish I had more time to play with my BBB Sep 03 04:23:37 i wished i had more time to play Sep 03 04:27:29 mrpackethead lol Sep 03 06:14:37 listen up all. this is the ridiculous chat. no help for beagle is here. Sep 03 06:15:33 kindly dont waste time here is the wasted room of chat Sep 03 06:17:01 another satisfied customer Sep 03 06:18:23 and this product is just time wasted. nothing help is provide at any place Sep 03 06:20:09 i dont know what to do with such a piece of junk pcb? :D Sep 03 06:20:31 trash it or smash it or crash it ? Sep 03 06:20:43 yes Sep 03 06:20:46 and post pics Sep 03 06:20:58 I think I have a red herring somewhere Sep 03 06:21:09 or through it outside the universe Sep 03 06:21:21 sure Sep 03 06:22:05 just don't hit the voyager probes on the way out, that'd be a waste of money Sep 03 06:22:20 i know that they are not crazy to sale a computer in 45$. they think that people are just dumb Sep 03 06:22:54 also, we need them to attract some aliens to then come and threaten to destroy earth in one of them star treks Sep 03 06:23:28 B'ger instead of V'ger Sep 03 06:23:32 or, your beagleboard will become intelligent and return for you with vengeance on its mind. Sep 03 06:24:30 beagleboard is really a beagle dog. he cant never ever be intelligent Sep 03 06:25:30 beagles are the hardest dogs to train Sep 03 06:25:48 * emeb_mac prefers cats Sep 03 06:25:59 you don't try to train them Sep 03 06:26:07 they train you. Sep 03 06:26:07 they train you Sep 03 06:26:11 jinx Sep 03 06:26:18 dogs have masters, cats have staff Sep 03 06:26:18 yes this is very true. and i want to meet jason krinder who also want to earn from books Sep 03 06:26:28 oh yes Sep 03 06:26:34 he has a second Ferrari now Sep 03 06:26:39 maybe he will give you a ride Sep 03 06:26:51 i just have a toyota Sep 03 06:26:56 must be doing something wrong Sep 03 06:26:56 but he might be on his yacht in Monaco Sep 03 06:27:06 jk? Sep 03 06:27:08 a wonderfull JIHAD everyone! Sep 03 06:27:09 or his private jet Sep 03 06:27:21 emeb_mac: that has a flat tire, he ditched it Sep 03 06:27:27 who let the suisse in. Sep 03 06:27:39 Chocolate Jihad! Sep 03 06:28:01 my doctor's first name is Jihad. <- true fact Sep 03 06:28:19 he looks like Bunsen Honeydew. Sep 03 06:28:34 emeb_mac: hopefully just blowing up kidney stones Sep 03 06:28:39 I have a bunsen burner Sep 03 06:28:42 this just the plan for earn money Sep 03 06:28:47 yes Sep 03 06:28:50 so join in Sep 03 06:28:53 you can be rich too Sep 03 06:28:59 everyone's a winner! Sep 03 06:29:04 what did i miss Sep 03 06:29:09 it's a Ponzi scheme Sep 03 06:29:17 selling beaglebones? Sep 03 06:29:22 yes Sep 03 06:29:23 late arrivals will lose out Sep 03 06:29:45 mybbbstore.com will sell bbb's for $499 Sep 03 06:29:55 we'll package them with a "special" operating sytem Sep 03 06:30:06 our cunnin scheme to relabed waste PCBs from China as BBB and sell them Sep 03 06:30:12 relabel Sep 03 06:30:18 it worked on adrike Sep 03 06:30:18 i dont know why they want to earn from book. :D Sep 03 06:30:22 we got his $45 Sep 03 06:30:29 they are already very rich Sep 03 06:30:31 a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasle. Sep 03 06:30:35 now he does nto want to pay for the BOOK Sep 03 06:30:41 what book? Sep 03 06:30:49 THE BOOK Sep 03 06:30:58 The Book of Beagle. Sep 03 06:31:05 oh, which book of beagle is that Sep 03 06:31:15 Brother Maynard - Bring out the Holy Beagleboard. Sep 03 06:31:21 THE BOOK!!! Sep 03 06:31:25 the examples are really really disgusting with no comment Sep 03 06:31:37 that'S part of the plan Sep 03 06:31:48 adrike: which bloddy book Sep 03 06:31:54 am i being trolled Sep 03 06:32:02 every thing is under development, so why they are selling it Sep 03 06:32:19 to get rich Sep 03 06:32:28 the book which jason write for beagle board purchaser Sep 03 06:32:32 ...then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Sep 03 06:32:35 to get rich Sep 03 06:32:46 by buying nokia stock? Sep 03 06:32:59 adrike: if you get your $45 back, will you shut up? Sep 03 06:33:14 I did'nt get a book Sep 03 06:33:24 mrpackethead: you did it wrong then Sep 03 06:33:41 I did'nt get a book!!! Sep 03 06:33:43 Why not Sep 03 06:33:52 no i want 90$ because they tease me so much Sep 03 06:33:58 sure Sep 03 06:34:01 adrike: good luck Sep 03 06:34:03 and 1 million for damages Sep 03 06:34:14 try with hot coffee Sep 03 06:34:33 I've bought >500 of the beagles now Sep 03 06:34:37 my advise you all that dont look at the beagle they just like womens Sep 03 06:34:41 and i ain't geeting any book Sep 03 06:34:44 hire a good lawyer and SUE. Sep 03 06:34:52 mrpackethead: you are really doing it wrong! Sep 03 06:35:00 i don't like the stupid new boxes Sep 03 06:35:07 they have really cheaped on the cardboard Sep 03 06:35:13 beagle and women are same Sep 03 06:35:25 just dumb Sep 03 06:35:45 someone is having a bad day Sep 03 06:35:57 someone wants to be kicked in his ass Sep 03 06:36:03 by a full size gundam Sep 03 06:37:37 someone want to defend the beagle . he cant be successful Sep 03 06:37:45 or Arnold Schwarzenegger Sep 03 06:38:17 hi Sep 03 06:38:24 hi panto Sep 03 06:38:26 yay - panto is here Sep 03 06:39:37 kindly dont trust on beagle and womens Sep 03 06:40:17 works for me. you must be doin' it rong. Sep 03 06:41:14 i am successful to turn the topic of chat Sep 03 06:41:15 : Sep 03 06:41:19 :D Sep 03 06:41:24 not really Sep 03 06:41:35 it's early in the morning and people are bored Sep 03 06:41:45 anyways... Sep 03 06:41:48 the topic of chat here is as fickle as the wind. Sep 03 06:41:57 i need to plan for elce... what kind of chocolate do you guys want? Sep 03 06:42:03 every one in the chat are away from topic Sep 03 06:42:07 the good stuff Sep 03 06:42:15 KotH: what kind you got? Sep 03 06:42:18 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/146 Sep 03 06:42:24 emeb_mac: only the good ones :) Sep 03 06:42:31 emeb_mac: ie swiss ;) Sep 03 06:42:52 just don't ge the stuff with ants in it Sep 03 06:43:04 we dont have the stuff with ants in it Sep 03 06:43:11 what you got against ants? Sep 03 06:43:22 some folks think they're yummy Sep 03 06:43:35 a lot of stuff. but chocolate is not the right thing to cope with an ant problem Sep 03 06:44:03 approx. how much is a night at a hotel in Edinburg ? Sep 03 06:44:24 starts from approx 70GBP and goes to >500 Sep 03 06:44:32 hugh Sep 03 06:44:47 you can get cheaper if you go to a hostel Sep 03 06:44:58 is that a movie reference ? Sep 03 06:45:17 Hostel California Sep 03 06:45:32 is that a musical reference ? Sep 03 06:45:47 there's plenty of room... Sep 03 06:48:20 gone. sad. Sep 03 06:49:29 with op I would have kicked him anyway Sep 03 06:50:33 helllo all Sep 03 06:50:50 Is there any one..???? Sep 03 06:50:55 yes Sep 03 06:51:48 I have some basic doubts....since i am a newbie to this..the doubts may be foolishness... Sep 03 06:51:55 questions Sep 03 06:51:58 you have questions Sep 03 06:52:04 just ask Sep 03 06:52:14 doubts sound like you don't believe us Sep 03 06:52:24 emeb_mac: it's an Indian thing Sep 03 06:52:35 not like that..not doubts...questions Sep 03 06:52:36 for some reason they call it doubts Sep 03 06:52:36 av500: ya - heard it b4 Sep 03 06:53:15 * KotH has doubts too Sep 03 06:53:15 do the board come with OS..?? Sep 03 06:53:23 about the world, imaginary friends and the big machine Sep 03 06:53:26 which board Sep 03 06:53:34 beagle bone Sep 03 06:53:42 white or black? Sep 03 06:53:46 black Sep 03 06:54:04 should have Angstrom installed from the factory Sep 03 06:54:32 geez how many golf cpurses are there in Edinburgh ? Sep 03 06:54:41 lots Sep 03 06:54:47 So to start to use....what am i supposed to do...? Sep 03 06:54:52 that's where Golf was invented or something Sep 03 06:55:24 india: plug it in Sep 03 06:55:41 but it is easy to put an OS, you just need an SD card Sep 03 06:55:52 make sure you use 5V only Sep 03 06:56:24 suppose if i want to install ubuntu into beagle bone black..what should i do.... Sep 03 06:57:40 follow the instructions Sep 03 06:58:46 india: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black Sep 03 06:58:58 google is very handy Sep 03 06:59:26 * emeb_mac resisted the urge to lmgtfy. Sep 03 06:59:56 thankyou emeb_mac and av500 ... Sep 03 07:00:02 np Sep 03 07:01:23 come to #beagle for mild forms of abuse and neglect. Sep 03 07:01:36 s/mild// Sep 03 07:01:48 s/mild forms of// Sep 03 07:02:40 it's IRC - how can it be anything but mild? Sep 03 07:02:54 until someone invents IRC that reaches out and smacks you Sep 03 07:20:56 emeb_mac: now how do we hide that 10kV cap and the charging circuit on the next beagle... Sep 03 07:21:19 ooohh - good idea! Sep 03 07:21:42 'what does the pin labelled LART do?'... 'just try it!' *brzzzzzp* Sep 03 07:22:10 rofl Sep 03 07:40:58 * KotH yawns Sep 03 07:56:20 jackmitch|home: attend ELC-E? Sep 03 07:59:50 koen: I wish :( Sep 03 07:59:50 koen: maybe next year, I'm starting at a new company in a week which has a bit more money, so I may get lucky :) Sep 03 08:01:13 koen: if yocto/openemebedded has a call for help then I might see if I can cut a deal with rpurdie in exchange for LF helping with tickets ;) Sep 03 08:01:22 :) Sep 03 08:01:27 email jefro Sep 03 08:01:34 koen: tull? Sep 03 08:01:43 that's with 'th' Sep 03 08:02:00 koen: nipicking. Sep 03 08:02:10 that's what I do best Sep 03 08:02:17 +1 Sep 03 08:02:20 if you have no skill, just nitpick on others Sep 03 08:02:29 * LetoThe2nd hands koen a cup of nits. Sep 03 08:02:43 aint he one of the nits already Sep 03 08:02:44 ? Sep 03 08:02:45 how bright? Sep 03 08:02:54 koen: DARK! BLACK! Sep 03 08:03:19 * av500 sends koen to the Dutch mountains Sep 03 08:03:21 koen: or should i squeeze them into a cup? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nits_(band) Sep 03 08:03:30 av500: great minds think alike. Sep 03 08:03:37 yes, but you are late Sep 03 08:03:46 av500: we actually have a mountain now in .nl Sep 03 08:03:54 magic mountain? Sep 03 08:03:59 av500: a sandworm is never late nor early. he arrives precisely when he means to. Sep 03 08:04:03 av500: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Scenery Sep 03 08:04:36 the islands went bankrupt, so now they are really part of .nl due to the bailout Sep 03 08:05:15 koen: did you get to purchase land over there? Sep 03 08:05:20 go west... Sep 03 08:06:06 yeah! run to the hills! Sep 03 08:06:14 if I buy land there I'd buy that datacentre plot on barbados Sep 03 08:06:20 what to expect from a place where the capital is called "The Bottom" Sep 03 08:06:57 av500: -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN42uzNFVmQ Sep 03 08:07:26 http://cheapbeatsmusic.bandcamp.com/album/microsongs Sep 03 08:07:46 nah. Sep 03 08:08:15 actually, check the vid.. more bass. Sep 03 08:09:33 ah right, my subwoofer was off Sep 03 08:10:08 <3 spinal tap Sep 03 08:10:21 240p? Sep 03 08:10:28 is it 2003 again? Sep 03 08:10:48 * LetoThe2nd check his calendar Sep 03 08:11:10 12003 is even gone sine a couple hundred years... Sep 03 08:19:24 what are we annoying about trolls Sep 03 08:20:49 dutch mountains Sep 03 08:30:41 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.11: http://git.io/-j17Sg Sep 03 08:30:41 kernel/3.11 9e6ee39 Koen Kooi: 3.11: update to 3.11 final... Sep 03 08:31:46 mrpackethead: you are right, the new BBB packaging is cheap shit, sign of the coming demise.... Sep 03 08:46:09 av500: yup, everythign got cheaped down Sep 03 08:46:25 because they think they have to compete with PI Sep 03 08:46:34 if they are making $5 per BBB Sep 03 08:46:48 woudl'nt it ahve been better to have made $30 per BBB Sep 03 08:46:53 and made 6 x less Sep 03 08:46:59 and had better cardboard boxes Sep 03 08:47:28 the original plan was to have no packaging, only the anti-static bag Sep 03 08:47:42 since disties will put them in a box for shipping anyway Sep 03 08:47:58 koen: HAH! I KNEW IT! you just admitted to have a plan!!! Sep 03 08:55:28 hi! does anyone have an idea where such touchscreen jumps / jitter may result from? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEfnwL-Jxgw @ min 2:00. i also see them on my LCD :-( Sep 03 08:56:09 bad TS Sep 03 08:56:15 bad TS controller Sep 03 08:56:24 bad TS driver Sep 03 08:57:07 Anguel: you can try enable a longer filter chain in the driver Sep 03 08:57:14 in 3.2 I set it to 16x averaging Sep 03 08:57:19 av500: bad religion? Sep 03 08:57:20 dunno what 3.8 is set to Sep 03 08:57:29 zubairlk would know Sep 03 08:57:32 LetoThe2nd: bad karma Sep 03 08:57:55 av500: well thats certain. Sep 03 08:59:05 koen: thanks, i think this 4" LCD cape is only supported in 3.8 kernel. where do you set this averaging? in the kernel? Sep 03 08:59:36 koen: and why was their a poor attempt at retail packing Sep 03 09:00:05 why include numerous usb-cables Sep 03 09:00:09 dont' need them Sep 03 09:00:16 dont' need an HDMI port Sep 03 09:00:28 lol. Sep 03 09:00:30 yeah, give us RGB! Sep 03 09:00:39 or even better, composite FTW Sep 03 09:00:41 RGB ALL THINGS! Sep 03 09:00:46 no video required Sep 03 09:00:51 koen: compose all things Sep 03 09:00:53 you have composite already, just bitbang it Sep 03 09:01:15 PRU-bit-bang-composite-video Sep 03 09:01:30 wasnt there someone who made a pong on a pic using one fo the GPIO to bitbank FBAS? Sep 03 09:01:59 koth, yes, in deed there was. It was based on the work of my good freind Sep 03 09:02:34 Lucio Di Jaso Sep 03 09:02:38 Jasio Sep 03 09:02:39 even Sep 03 09:02:58 flys planes and codes PIC's Sep 03 09:04:00 flys PIGs and codes planes? Sep 03 09:04:12 cessna 182's Sep 03 09:04:54 mrpackethead: Lucio Di Jasio, I remember, he wrote the only book about the PIC32, unfortunately Microchip messed up the software so it was very soon outdated... Sep 03 09:05:34 i'd disagree, the book is still a very good guide Sep 03 09:08:19 KotH: ++ Sep 03 09:10:59 mrpackethead: beats me. I'd also have used a microusb for the otg port Sep 03 09:18:58 yeah. Sep 03 09:19:11 theres soem strange design decisions. Sep 03 09:19:41 i'd guess, that the hardware was designd by a team of one, with little constructive team review Sep 03 09:25:00 http://codepad.org/266g9tyk Sep 03 09:25:58 This seems to be the result when trying to use the archlinux-arm image created via http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/ti/beaglebone-black Sep 03 09:26:32 I am surprised by the line "Booting from mmc ..." Sep 03 09:26:53 Since I obviously want to boot from the SD card Sep 03 09:27:58 dostoyevsky: so what do you think is the difference between mmc and sd from the booting point of view? Sep 03 09:29:13 LetoThe2nd: I don't think there is much of a difference. You just load a block and execute it Sep 03 09:29:27 dostoyevsky: so why does the line surprise you? Sep 03 09:29:47 LetoThe2nd: Because it should boot from the SD card Sep 03 09:30:32 dostoyevsky: they way *I* read it, is that it tries to do exactly that. Sep 03 09:30:41 Ok... Sep 03 09:31:19 Ah, the one of the board is called eMMC, right? Sep 03 09:31:53 i don't know how it's called in the bootloader. basically they both should feed the mmc interface. Sep 03 09:33:04 dostoyevsky: i can show you a boot log while booting the eMMC, if you want Sep 03 09:34:37 aphex_: Is the /boot/uImage mentioned in the uEnv.txt? Sep 03 09:35:46 dostoyevsky: the bootloader's uEnv.txt refers only to zImage, check it in the BeagleBone-bootloader.tar.gz Sep 03 09:36:39 aphex_: Interesting. Maybe it really is an ALA problem Sep 03 09:37:22 (Of that particular image) Sep 03 09:37:41 my bets are on it. Sep 03 09:38:44 here are the bootlogs for the factory eMMC boot: http://codepad.org/CGkoEGZX Sep 03 09:42:37 can someone please confirm that it's now unnecessary to push the button S2 to boot from uSD card (if its inserted:) ? Sep 03 09:43:05 aphex_: If you have connected the right pins, then it isn't necessary Sep 03 09:43:45 aphex_: For the newer beagle pressing the button is not necesary, AFAIR. (After the black I think) Sep 03 09:47:33 if i start pushing it before powering up, i see only "CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC..." Sep 03 09:48:45 So aphex_ and me seem to have the same problem with installing ALA. Don't many people here use ALA? (No one on #archlinux-arm is responding to questions right now) Sep 03 09:48:53 aphex_: if you see CCCC it`s in the USB boot mode Sep 03 09:51:09 > Insert SD card into your (powered-down) board, hold down the USER/BOOT button (if using Black) and apply power, either by the USB cable or 5V adapter. Sep 03 09:51:17 http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started Sep 03 09:51:35 aphex_: user/boot seems to be only present on the black Sep 03 09:52:48 vvu|Log: thx for info Sep 03 09:53:37 aphex_: that means the chip cannot find anything to boot from eMMC/uSD Sep 03 09:55:15 vvu|Log: if i dont push the button S2 it finds the uSD, and tries to boot from it. just doesnt find the uImage Sep 03 09:55:49 if i copy an uImage file to the /root on the uSD, the BBB loads it (and fails:) Sep 03 09:56:31 so your uImage is bad Sep 03 09:56:55 so now i guess, its only the harder way left, im going to compile a kernel, with both uImage and zImage, and check if is enough for the u-boot... Sep 03 09:57:08 why don't take the stock uImage from angstrom ? Sep 03 09:57:58 yes, that was only a try, if it founds it, i got the uImage from the "ArchLinuxARM-2013.08-omap-smp-rootfs.tar.gz" and all remaining files of the rootfs from "ArchLinuxARM-2013.08-am33x-rootfs.tar.gz" Sep 03 10:00:04 can't really help you here..dunno if stuff from Arch is ok Sep 03 10:00:37 Is there an angstrom tarball that has the right uImage for the beagle? Sep 03 10:01:14 dostoyevsky: sure Sep 03 10:01:34 you can get it right from the /boot Sep 03 10:02:03 aphex_: Ah.. did you try it? Sep 03 10:02:21 (I don't have my beagle here atm) Sep 03 10:08:02 dostoyevsky: good hint! >>> Welcome to Arch Linux ARM! Sep 03 10:08:23 [root@alarm ~]# uname -a Linux alarm 3.8.13 #1 SMP Tue Jun 18 02:11:09 EDT 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux Sep 03 10:10:36 if i remove the zImage, it doesnt boots, so it needs both zImage and uImage Sep 03 10:11:49 aphex_: Yay! Will try this once I am back at home. Thanks for figuring out! :) Sep 03 10:12:36 the problem is that was not a clean way to get it work Sep 03 10:13:01 i hope the ALA guys will do something about it Sep 03 10:15:06 True... I am sure the ala guys will respond once they wake up Sep 03 10:16:01 Quite possibly someone forgot to "make uImage" when making the tarball Sep 03 10:27:31 dostoyevsky: why not just create uImage from zImage? Sep 03 10:27:53 or better yet just use bootz and drop uImage in the dirt where it belongs Sep 03 10:55:40 I have built a Angstrom systemd-image and after booting and provide login credential(root) the system hangs like this and not returning any prompt (BBB) Sep 03 10:56:09 Any idea of what is the problem Sep 03 11:07:32 XorA: thanks mate, i could generate an uImage form the zImage, whitch at least boots. i did not run further tests, but /dev looks nice :) Sep 03 11:07:43 here's the command for it: mkimage -A arm -O linux -C none -T kernel -a 80008000 -e 80008000 -n linux-3.8.13-7-ARCH -d zImage uImage Sep 03 11:10:39 koen: I wrote 4D SYSTEMS support regarding the touchscreen jitter and got the following reply: The 4D Cape 43T LCD has been based on the LCD4 from Circuitco and uses the same drivers written for the LCD4 on the Angstrom. Upon testing and verification, the problem of jitter is evident as well on the LCD4 display of Circuitco using the Angstrom 2013.06.20 and 2013.08.21 images so in effect this has nothing to do with the hardware but it†Sep 03 11:11:49 denial Sep 03 11:11:51 sue them! Sep 03 11:12:34 av500: you think both manufacturers have a HW problem? Sep 03 11:12:53 it's a conspiracy Sep 03 11:13:07 Anguel: seriously, no idea Sep 03 11:13:19 it looks to me like the touchscreen itself is not very good Sep 03 11:13:21 and loses contact Sep 03 11:13:24 av500: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_of_One Sep 03 11:13:42 sure one can filter to catch and remove weird values, but that's just bandaids Sep 03 11:13:51 shit touchscreens are shit Sep 03 11:13:54 av500: your new t-shirt? http://i.imgur.com/IcIY4Jd.jpg Sep 03 11:14:00 or new avatar? Sep 03 11:14:06 +1 Sep 03 11:14:18 hrhr Sep 03 11:14:42 dm8tbr: looks better on her though Sep 03 11:15:49 av500: but it is true that the jitter effect is seen on my 4" LCD by 4dsystems as well as on the big 7" LCD from Circuitco, I doubt the touchscreen is the same Sep 03 11:17:15 Hi there Sep 03 11:17:21 just got my BBB Sep 03 11:17:32 dm8tbr: http://februaryson.com/men/gato-malvado-unisex-tee Sep 03 11:17:48 have googled for help on setting it to run on ethernet jack instead of the usb-network thingy Sep 03 11:17:52 no luck Sep 03 11:18:06 just plug it in Sep 03 11:18:10 it has gotten an ip from my router thou Sep 03 11:18:20 but i try to use putty to ssh to it Sep 03 11:18:25 av500: ordered already? Sep 03 11:18:26 no luck... timeout Sep 03 11:18:56 does it blink on the ethernet Sep 03 11:18:58 ? Sep 03 11:19:19 there was an image with broken sshd IIRC Sep 03 11:19:24 just reflash to latest Sep 03 11:20:52 lookiing Sep 03 11:21:09 latest of course.... did that last night Sep 03 11:21:23 blinks yes Sep 03 11:23:26 it can via 192.168.7.2... just slow as hell :-D Sep 03 11:24:33 but timeout if i use the ip it has on ethernet Sep 03 11:25:30 ? Sep 03 11:25:38 what is 7.2 then? Sep 03 11:25:57 network over usb Sep 03 11:26:04 ah Sep 03 11:26:23 ok Sep 03 11:26:25 that one works... a bit slow but comes up Sep 03 11:26:37 so you can ssh via usb and see what eth ip it got? Sep 03 11:26:42 it gets an ip for ethernet jack but i cant ssh via that Sep 03 11:26:46 ok Sep 03 11:26:51 Bo_DK: what ip does it get on your ethernet? Sep 03 11:26:52 i can see eth ip from router Sep 03 11:27:00 192.168.0.101 Sep 03 11:27:06 and your PC? Sep 03 11:27:16 Bo_DK: run ifconfig on the BBB Sep 03 11:27:19 192.168.0.6 Sep 03 11:27:20 does it say the same? Sep 03 11:27:30 just to be sure Sep 03 11:28:02 .0. for my pc sorry... but on same network :-D Sep 03 11:28:04 let me check Sep 03 11:29:25 Bo_DK: what OS is on your PC? what firewall? Sep 03 11:29:36 win7 Sep 03 11:29:42 m$ own firewall Sep 03 11:30:13 Bo_DK: do you have the right SSH port in putty? Sep 03 11:30:17 ifconfig.... Sep 03 11:30:23 yes port 22 Sep 03 11:30:33 works via usb network link Sep 03 11:30:45 assume same ports on both Sep 03 11:30:53 output from ifconfig: Sep 03 11:31:07 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 90:59:AF:5B:1C:86 Sep 03 11:31:07 inet addr:192.168.0.101 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 Sep 03 11:31:07 inet6 addr: fe80::9259:afff:fe5b:1c86/64 Scope:Link Sep 03 11:31:07 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Sep 03 11:31:07 RX packets:1614 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 Sep 03 11:31:07 TX packets:94 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Sep 03 11:31:08 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 Sep 03 11:31:08 RX bytes:275422 (268.9 KiB) TX bytes:12211 (11.9 KiB) Sep 03 11:31:09 Interrupt:56 Sep 03 11:31:16 dude... PASTEBIN! Sep 03 11:31:29 upps Sep 03 11:32:01 Bo_DK: tried to use another network cable? :-) Sep 03 11:32:30 brand new cat7 cable... Sep 03 11:32:36 and there is link in both ends Sep 03 11:33:43 and if cable was broken i assume it would not get an ip from router Sep 03 11:33:48 nor would there be link Sep 03 11:36:08 trying to ping outside world Sep 03 11:36:09 .... Sep 03 11:36:25 unknown host Sep 03 11:36:41 pings your router? Sep 03 11:36:43 so it does not get the ethernet part right i can figure by now Sep 03 11:36:44 cat /etc/resolv.conf Sep 03 11:36:52 oh... will try ping router Sep 03 11:36:56 unless that went out of fashion Sep 03 11:37:08 or is called resolvd now Sep 03 11:37:43 can't ping router Sep 03 11:37:56 hmmm Sep 03 11:38:06 maybe its connected one way only Sep 03 11:38:12 think we found error Sep 03 11:38:18 nameserver 127.0.0.1 Sep 03 11:38:53 from the cat /etc/resolv.conf Sep 03 11:39:27 so Sep 03 11:39:31 run a local DNS :) Sep 03 11:40:03 router should do right? ie what if i change dns to 192.168.0.1 ? Sep 03 11:41:34 and if setting to router helps is there a way to make it automatic from what DHCP server says it should be? Sep 03 11:41:49 it should be the case Sep 03 11:41:57 I would start blaming koen now Sep 03 11:42:21 It's possible to encode h264 1280x720@30 on bb xm? Sep 03 11:42:37 will try to set manual... Sep 03 11:43:05 with TIVidenc1 I can only 720x576@18 Sep 03 11:43:11 i'm trying to code some python that in end can aim a yagi at a high altitude baloon Sep 03 11:43:35 for now i will connect to my router... but in end it will be out in field and stuff can change Sep 03 11:44:43 fingers crossed Sep 03 11:45:40 dooh... http://derekmolloy.ie/set-ip-address-to-be-static-on-the-beaglebone-black/ Sep 03 11:45:47 says first thing is to change nameservers Sep 03 11:45:50 .-( Sep 03 11:46:08 Bo_DK: dnsmasq is running, so 127.0.0.1 is correct Sep 03 11:46:10 feel like a fool to ask about this now it has been under my nose all the time Sep 03 11:46:32 koen: ok... problem is that it cant ping outside... nor router Sep 03 11:46:43 with only ethernet connected? Sep 03 11:46:44 and i cant ssh to it over ethernet... only the usb ip Sep 03 11:47:05 right Sep 03 11:47:07 usb not allowed? i have no means to power it right now Sep 03 11:47:20 usb ethernet takes over routing and dns Sep 03 11:47:52 hmmm.... Sep 03 11:48:05 hope i have something 5V arround... Sep 03 11:48:14 or screwed until i can get something Sep 03 11:48:18 koen: so powering it via USB makes ethernet unusable? Sep 03 11:48:38 av500: in essence, yes Sep 03 11:48:48 Bo_DK: systemctl disable storage-gadget-init.service Sep 03 11:48:52 Bo_DK: and reboot Sep 03 11:48:52 I'll quote you Sep 03 11:49:14 koen: nice.... will the change be permanent? Sep 03 11:49:24 av500: blame kridner, he wanted to run a dhcp server on the bone for usb networking Sep 03 11:49:27 a reboot kinda suggest that Sep 03 11:49:27 Bo_DK: yes Sep 03 11:49:34 koen: I will Sep 03 11:51:50 koen: done Sep 03 11:54:16 is it rude to ask for help to do "sanity" checks on python code? and what is the best way to do so? Sep 03 11:57:28 tried to do systemctl disable storage-gadget-init.service Sep 03 11:57:34 seek professional advice Sep 03 11:57:39 go see a doctor Sep 03 11:57:54 but still i cant ssh via ethernet Sep 03 11:58:10 av500: does shrink appointment count? Sep 03 11:58:23 yes Sep 03 11:58:52 av500: that is due in november :-( Sep 03 11:59:59 hmm... will have to poke arround this ssh issue a bit more Sep 03 12:00:55 koen: any ideas why i still cant ssh via ethernet? drive under windows is gone so i assume command was successfull Sep 03 12:15:05 Bo_DK|2: didn't understand why you turned off USB gadget Sep 03 12:15:25 to be able to use ethernet Sep 03 12:15:35 while usb is plugged in Sep 03 12:15:36 Bo_DK|2: I have both running perfectly Sep 03 12:15:41 to power it Sep 03 12:15:54 Bo_DK|2: on my win xp Sep 03 12:16:00 koen said usb disables ethernet Sep 03 12:16:15 Bo_DK|2: runs fine for me Sep 03 12:16:15 but yess ideal would to have both Sep 03 12:16:28 i could not ssh via ether net Sep 03 12:16:43 Bo_DK|2: what router do you have? Sep 03 12:16:56 tp-link Sep 03 12:17:16 BBB gets an ip from it Sep 03 12:17:23 are you sure it does not block any ports or something Sep 03 12:17:40 no... i'm against port blocking Sep 03 12:17:49 so is always first thing i do Sep 03 12:18:20 which Angstrom image do you use? Sep 03 12:18:31 anyways this is on internal network Sep 03 12:18:39 helllo... Sep 03 12:18:42 so router is not in between so to speak Sep 03 12:18:49 latest image... flashed last night Sep 03 12:19:43 no idea, maybe try writing the ubuntu image to an sd card to see if that works Sep 03 12:20:00 but i have the impression that it might be your network Sep 03 12:20:14 hmm... Sep 03 12:20:25 suppose if i want to write a program to toggle an led for beaglebone black...in which language can i write the program.... Sep 03 12:20:25 if i replace the bbb with a pi it works Sep 03 12:20:28 no problem there Sep 03 12:20:41 and how should my network be in fault? Sep 03 12:20:46 just trying to understand Sep 03 12:23:19 suppose if i want to write a program to toggle an led for beaglebone black...in which language can i write the program....and also how to compile it Sep 03 12:24:06 India: in any language that can open/close and write to a file Sep 03 12:24:12 Bo_DK|2: sorry, just had that impression but if the pi works probably the problem is different Sep 03 12:30:19 someone at the door Sep 03 12:30:32 NSA? Sep 03 12:30:40 sadly no Sep 03 12:30:51 postman with a heapload of smd stuff Sep 03 12:31:37 hmmm.... nah my network is keept rellt simple to avoid chances of errors Sep 03 12:32:00 might reflash in a bit while unpacking Sep 03 12:32:30 hmmmm Sep 03 12:32:38 just had the router rebooted Sep 03 12:32:52 now BBB does not ask for ip Sep 03 12:33:04 one more thing to check and then reflash Sep 03 12:33:49 Bo_DK|2: can you ssh other comupers via putty? Sep 03 12:34:14 yep... Sep 03 12:34:25 have sevral pi's arround the house Sep 03 12:34:32 one to monitor energy uage Sep 03 12:34:35 usage Sep 03 12:34:57 yep Sep 03 12:35:02 just tried one of them Sep 03 12:35:49 i would try reflashing and see what happens Sep 03 12:35:52 [13:48] koen: so powering it via USB makes ethernet unusable? Sep 03 12:35:54 [13:48] av500: in essence, yes Sep 03 12:35:57 why speculate? Sep 03 12:36:03 the behavious is as expected Sep 03 12:36:26 av500: it works for me without problems Sep 03 12:36:54 then its a bug Sep 03 12:36:56 :) Sep 03 12:37:21 yes, maybe there is a bug in my xp which makes it work :) Sep 03 12:38:00 av500: did you not catch the command that makes it possible to use usb to power and ethernet? Sep 03 12:38:18 [13:48] Bo_DK: systemctl disable storage-gadget-init.service Sep 03 12:38:18 koen did give one command that disables usb gadget Sep 03 12:38:53 i think he disabled it but did not help Sep 03 12:39:44 lets see what happens... in any rate i can try another distro Sep 03 12:40:36 Bo_DK|2: how did you flash the angstrom? Sep 03 12:41:12 with a sd... the image that is made to reflash the internal... Sep 03 12:41:41 just inserted as pr instructions and powered up and waited about 20 mins to all leds light up Sep 03 12:42:14 sounds ok, and then you removed the sd card before rebooting? Sep 03 12:43:08 yes... i unpluged power and removed it Sep 03 12:43:19 but yes very simple Sep 03 12:43:27 what can go wrong :-D Sep 03 12:43:56 :-) Sep 03 12:44:23 maybe try to boot a distribution directly from SD Sep 03 12:44:23 quick answer: everything Sep 03 12:44:42 yeah.. that is on the list of next attempts Sep 03 12:45:23 yaaaaa Sep 03 12:45:25 works Sep 03 12:45:29 hmm Sep 03 12:46:00 what did you do? Sep 03 12:46:05 all i did was to reboot router.. and a repeater for wireless.... not that its connected over wireless Sep 03 12:46:15 usb gadget still disabled Sep 03 12:46:43 i hate those tp-link :-) Sep 03 12:47:01 guys my problem is similar Sep 03 12:47:03 i think you can reenable the usb gadget Sep 03 12:47:10 yeah Sep 03 12:47:12 my BBB not boot from microSD card Sep 03 12:47:16 but will never need it Sep 03 12:47:31 i broken my eMMC :( Sep 03 12:47:32 either wired or wireless Sep 03 12:47:58 time to unpack to giga envelopes of smd parts and count Sep 03 12:48:05 my steps: Sep 03 12:48:19 1) Download this image: BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.08.21.img.xz Sep 03 12:48:41 2) Descompress: $ xz -d BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.08.21.img Sep 03 12:48:58 3) copy this image from microSD card: dd if=BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.08.21.img of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M Sep 03 12:49:33 4) press boot shift(S2) and inser microSD card, after power up with 5V Sep 03 12:49:59 Bo_DK|2: see, it was the network ;) Sep 03 12:49:59 but do not turn on the lights Sep 03 12:50:44 Anguel: yeah... just strange as i have not changed a thing Sep 03 12:50:49 pPlease could someone help me? Sep 03 12:50:50 Anguel: I thought he disabled usb gadget? Sep 03 12:51:08 firemanxbr: tried to press the power switch? Sep 03 12:51:10 av500: but it still did not work Sep 03 12:51:13 i had to first time Sep 03 12:51:32 av500: in the end it was my network some way Sep 03 12:51:42 Bo_DK|2, no Sep 03 12:51:48 all i did was to reboot router and a wireless extender Sep 03 12:52:06 Bo_DK|2, is necessary press power switch + boot switch ? Sep 03 12:52:14 thou BBB is not connected to extender Sep 03 12:52:22 just did it for good messure Sep 03 12:52:33 firemanxbr: try to press power only Sep 03 12:52:41 afaik tp-links make strange things happen Sep 03 12:53:05 Bo_DK|2, okay I go try Sep 03 12:53:25 will be out... counting smd bits Sep 03 12:53:51 Bo_DK|2: good luck :) Sep 03 13:13:00 Bo_DK|2, I keep the power button pressed and power flasher for 15 to 15 seconds, but does not turn the users lights :( Sep 03 13:13:27 firemanxbr: only short press and let it work for 20 mins or more Sep 03 13:13:39 Bo_DK|2, exist other process ? i'm using this image: BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.08.21.img Sep 03 13:13:56 firemanxbr: so did i last night.... Sep 03 13:14:16 it takes a long time to flash the image to BBB Sep 03 13:15:25 Bo_DK|2, my lights do not light user, i'm waiting Sep 03 13:16:24 then its maybe broken Sep 03 13:16:34 send it back and get another free Sep 03 13:18:54 Bo_DK|2, should not at least one of the users light blink? Sep 03 13:24:01 firemanxbr: try flashing your sd on a windows machine Sep 03 13:24:17 firemanxbr: then try again Sep 03 13:24:52 Anguel, sorry i not use Windows :( only Fedora for me Sep 03 13:25:19 firemanxbr: on new images you don't need to press the boot button, bbb auto-boots from SD if it finds a bootable image Sep 03 13:26:11 Anguel, i get this image BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.08.21.img Sep 03 13:26:29 firemanxbr: are you sure you have written it correctly to sd? Sep 03 13:26:32 Anguel, and try this it: BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.20.img Sep 03 13:27:00 Anguel, yes, i used command "dd" Sep 03 13:27:05 ok, so you put in your sd card and plug in usb for power, what happens? Sep 03 13:27:34 Anguel, dd if=BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.08.21.img of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M Sep 03 13:28:05 firemanxbr: ask the others if this is correct, I did it with win32flasher Sep 03 13:28:15 Anguel, I plug power 5v but no light users Sep 03 13:28:28 firemanxbr: why not power it from usb? Sep 03 13:28:59 Anguel, i'm try boot, but no light users Sep 03 13:29:54 firemanxbr: did it work when you first plugged it in? Sep 03 13:30:10 firemanxbr: when you bought the BBB? Sep 03 13:30:52 Anguel, yes, its okay in first time, but I try set new image for eMMC and after no boot more Sep 03 13:31:46 firemanxbr: i am not sure if you wrote the image correctly to the sd card but you should ask the linux experts about this Sep 03 13:32:18 Has anybody got experience with USB booting (full, starting with ROM code)? Sep 03 13:32:34 maybe try writing a sd card image (no eMMC flasher) and see if it works when running from SD card Sep 03 13:32:39 Anguel, good idea, I talk for they, thank you Sep 03 13:32:55 I can't get USB working, multiple "device descriptor read/64, error -32" and "device not accepting address 100, error -32" errors on host machine Sep 03 13:46:48 update my kernel is not easy Sep 03 14:38:54 * av500 watches Predator at work Sep 03 14:43:21 anyone know what the real lead time for the lcdcape is? Sep 03 14:43:49 which one? Sep 03 14:43:52 3,4 or 7? Sep 03 14:43:58 54 Sep 03 14:45:22 7 Sep 03 14:45:50 Crofton|work: 54 as mru said Sep 03 14:45:54 heh Sep 03 14:46:06 Speaking of mru, I fond his next job : http://www.linaro.org/careers/linaro/director-of-set-top-box Sep 03 14:46:16 +100 Sep 03 14:46:39 he fails at first requirement though Sep 03 14:46:58 the MBA? Sep 03 14:47:03 (not judging) Sep 03 14:47:10 leading the group ? Sep 03 14:48:17 das: wrong section Sep 03 14:48:25 hmm, "comfortable with [...] phone conferences" Sep 03 14:48:31 good luck finding anyone for that Sep 03 14:48:44 phone on mute, go fishing Sep 03 14:49:02 mru: but also wiki! Sep 03 14:49:11 "I deleted it all" Sep 03 14:49:34 it's a great communication tool Sep 03 14:49:52 so are fortune cookies Sep 03 14:49:53 I wouldn't know, I suck at communication Sep 03 14:49:58 The page av500 doesn't exist, would you like to create it ? Sep 03 14:50:04 at least that's what my boss said just before I quit Sep 03 14:50:07 then put your message in Sep 03 14:50:15 regularly check your own page for PMs Sep 03 14:50:39 so it's like a ph0rum but worse Sep 03 14:50:41 sounds fantastic Sep 03 14:51:06 f5 f5 f5 Sep 03 14:51:27 ALT-F4 Sep 03 14:51:50 * das has quit [connection reset by beer] Sep 03 15:20:51 can someone please point me to the capes files used in angstrom on github? Sep 03 15:23:08 Anguel: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/ Sep 03 15:24:24 koen: thanks Sep 03 15:26:01 koen: do you have RW rights on meta-filesystems? Sep 03 15:28:40 koen, any idea on the real lad time for the 7" lcdpanel? Sep 03 15:31:11 Crofton|work: for black? Sep 03 15:34:43 the panel is for the black Sep 03 15:39:20 prpplague, for the black Sep 03 15:43:03 ant_work: I didn't know that existed, so I guess not :) Sep 03 15:43:36 ant_work: but since it's in meta-oe, I'd guess I have access Sep 03 15:50:31 Crofton|work: we have them in stock Sep 03 15:50:44 Crofton|work: shouldn't be an issue with availbility Sep 03 15:50:54 ok, so I would expect digikey to resolve stocking issues promptly then :) Sep 03 15:51:04 I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something annoying Sep 03 15:51:31 Crofton|work: is digikey showing out of stock? Sep 03 15:52:02 yep Sep 03 15:52:14 Crofton|work: not sure why Sep 03 15:52:27 Crofton|work: i'll check on that, otherwise you can order from boardzoo.com Sep 03 15:52:50 I already have the digikey account :) Sep 03 15:53:12 Crofton|work: i'll check with bob Sep 03 15:53:28 Crofton|work: to see if digikey has any outstanding orders Sep 03 16:00:11 koen: it's about removing cramfs from there (you're maintainer somehow). I'll ask JaMa and in case ping you Sep 03 16:04:19 koen: ELC-E may be go \o/ Sep 03 16:04:39 koen: just got to see if my new job will let me have the off :/ Sep 03 16:04:46 *time off Sep 03 16:12:36 <_av500_> what is special about schneier.com Sep 03 16:12:43 <_av500_> that I dont get it from work Sep 03 16:12:49 <_av500_> but over 3g it works Sep 03 16:13:21 work blocks it Sep 03 16:13:23 isp porn filter? Sep 03 16:13:28 or work porn filter Sep 03 16:13:30 _av500_: security discussions are often banned Sep 03 16:13:38 work dislikes security Sep 03 16:13:39 <_av500_> nothing is banned here Sep 03 16:13:45 _av500_: Schneier is anti-NSA--they are blocking him out of spite. Sep 03 16:13:53 <_av500_> work a cable modem that I control Sep 03 16:14:01 apparently yoju have a filter :) Sep 03 16:14:01 <_av500_> I thought more some v6 vs v4 thing Sep 03 16:14:06 but who controls the cable? Sep 03 16:14:11 <_av500_> the man Sep 03 16:14:25 schneier is ipv4 only Sep 03 16:14:35 <_av500_> well that should work Sep 03 16:14:51 disable your filters. Sep 03 16:14:57 and check a traceroute Sep 03 16:15:02 <_av500_> that works Sep 03 16:15:09 <_av500_> but nothing from port 80 Sep 03 16:15:11 <_av500_> or 443 Sep 03 16:15:22 <_av500_> e.g. wget or curl Sep 03 16:15:51 try telnet Sep 03 16:15:57 and it sounds like you have a filter up Sep 03 16:16:00 since they are up and working fine Sep 03 16:16:07 <_av500_> i know they work Sep 03 16:16:10 <_av500_> get them over 3g Sep 03 16:16:31 <_av500_> telnet on what? Sep 03 16:16:40 <_av500_> 80? Sep 03 16:16:58 Hi, I have a 9 year old beagle that has suddenly started walking as if he is drunk. He is on his way to the vet right now but I was wondering if anyone could give me some information on what might have happened Sep 03 16:17:07 <_av500_> wrong channel Sep 03 16:17:11 <_av500_> totally wrong channel Sep 03 16:17:16 sorry Sep 03 16:17:19 <_av500_> this is about a computer called beagleboard Sep 03 16:17:25 <_av500_> but good luck Sep 03 16:17:35 maybe he _is_ drunk Sep 03 16:17:51 Stroke is a possibility. Sep 03 16:17:55 dogs. what you gonna do? Sep 03 16:18:00 sad Sep 03 16:18:09 * SpeedEvil needs to get his MRI machine built. Sep 03 16:18:11 good luck phil, i hope your pet is ok Sep 03 16:18:17 SpeedEvil: mri cape Sep 03 16:18:23 +1 Sep 03 16:18:23 (Though not going to be much diagnostic use) Sep 03 16:18:42 <_av500_> mru cape Sep 03 16:18:48 my aims are to build a device that if you put a hand into - after half an hour it can tell you if any of your fingers have fallen off. Sep 03 16:18:59 SciAm had an article in amateur scientist years ago about a home-made NMR rig Sep 03 16:19:00 Which is an important diagnostic aid. Sep 03 16:19:03 <_av500_> does it have a cleaver inside? Sep 03 16:19:09 <_av500_> to make sure Sep 03 16:19:11 NMR is easy. Sep 03 16:19:22 That is - single pixel Sep 03 16:19:36 <_av500_> do people lose fingers and do not notice easily? Sep 03 16:19:50 Hanson's disease. Sep 03 16:19:57 Mmmm. (bop) Sep 03 16:20:02 aka leprosy Sep 03 16:20:09 some people seem to be missing an entire head and not noticing Sep 03 16:21:08 <_av500_> some miss a head Sep 03 16:22:57 some head amiss Sep 03 16:47:21 Hi, I can't find anywhere to download the binary version for image writer for windows 0.6 Sep 03 16:47:38 I tried using LaunchPad but it didn't work. Sep 03 16:49:00 huh? Sep 03 16:49:12 I have a BeagleBone Black. Sep 03 16:49:36 On the start page, one of the things you have to do is install image writer for windows Sep 03 16:49:57 and it says that you are supposed to download the Binary version Sep 03 16:50:09 but I can't find it anywhere - the link on the BB website doesn't link to the download. Sep 03 16:50:21 i see Sep 03 16:50:50 do you have any ideas? Sep 03 16:51:26 http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/files/latest/download Sep 03 16:51:30 that doesn't work? Sep 03 16:51:34 Student_: you mean, besides googling? Sep 03 16:51:36 Student_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/files/?source=navbar Sep 03 16:51:44 Student_: better switch to linux, though. Sep 03 16:52:08 I already downloaded that but I need the binary version. Sep 03 16:52:26 like i said, google it. i bet its also there. Sep 03 16:52:49 Student_: inside that zipfile is an .exe file - that's what you want. Sep 03 16:52:55 Student_: i mean, like...http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/files/Archive/ Sep 03 16:53:06 Student_: better ramp up your own initiave. Sep 03 16:54:55 What? Sep 03 16:55:33 and thank you; it worked....but what do you mean? Sep 03 16:56:00 Student_: invest more own brain power and effort instead of being spoonfed. Sep 03 16:56:00 and - get linux. Sep 03 16:56:11 you will hit the next brickwall very soon, i'd guess. Sep 03 16:56:53 ...I'm not sure how to work with this programming stuff so I wasn't sure where to look. Sep 03 17:24:43 morning all Sep 03 18:08:20 another week another lennart bug. too bad he's touring Ecuador instead of fixing systemd. Sep 03 18:27:36 rm -rf systemd Sep 03 18:27:49 georgem: ftfy Sep 03 18:31:43 rm equador Sep 03 18:35:07 SyNko, but where will I get to see my Legislative Brawls then? Sep 03 18:35:30 China? Sep 03 18:35:41 georgem, not see that... Sep 03 18:35:45 ehehhe Sep 03 18:35:47 seen the equadorian ones... Sep 03 18:37:55 maybe its Taiwan I'm thinking of. Sep 03 18:43:38 SyNko: ok, if you include assange Sep 03 18:44:08 yes the ambassy are symlinks Sep 03 18:44:12 heh Sep 03 18:51:43 Perfect weather outside. I can hear the Moose Drool beckoning me think we need to call an emergency holiday. Sep 03 18:52:51 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/181 Sep 03 19:10:13 gimme a break, gimme a break, break me off a piece of that fragmented android market Sep 03 19:15:46 <_av500_> Russ: break you off a piece of KitKat? Sep 03 19:15:53 yup Sep 03 19:17:53 <_av500_> KotH: japanese are crazy: http://www.buzzfeed.com/lydiah/35-kit-kat-varieties-from-around-the-world-18d7 Sep 03 19:20:07 _av500_ there was ever a doubt ? Sep 03 19:21:22 <_av500_> nah Sep 03 19:55:36 Hi all, I'm currently in the process of updating my beagleboard black, and I *think* it's flashing the eMMC but I am not sure. I am on a console screen that asked for a login, and the blue LEDs are aflutter Sep 03 19:55:53 I'm not sure if it's been 45 minutes, but I don't recall the guide saying anything about a login screen Sep 03 19:56:21 is this normal? Sep 03 19:57:25 a login screen will normally show up... if you see all the LEDs blinking at fairly frequent intervals, you can be pretty sure it is running. if you log-in, you can look for the process. Sep 03 19:57:44 suggestions have been made to alter the LED pattern, but suggestions thus far have been rejected. Sep 03 19:58:06 I'll let it keep running then, the guide says that all four should be lit solid when flashing is complete Sep 03 19:58:08 so I'll wait for that Sep 03 19:58:10 thanks Sep 03 19:58:13 when all the LEDs light up solid, you know it is done. somewhat over 45 minutes is expected. Sep 03 19:58:23 great, thank you Sep 03 20:03:05 Odd. trying to build angstrom console-image for bbb, but not getting the kernel devicetree files. Sep 03 20:25:23 hello Sep 03 20:25:28 one question Sep 03 20:25:48 how is posible to use SCP in beaglebone black withouse pass Sep 03 20:26:30 helppp: that's not really a beaglebone black question, but look at ssh keys Sep 03 20:26:45 but Sep 03 20:26:58 i have problem with ssh key Sep 03 20:27:02 don´t work Sep 03 20:27:07 or is other command Sep 03 20:27:13 what did you do? Sep 03 20:27:15 for linux amstron Sep 03 20:27:50 http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ssh-password-less-login-with-dsa-publickey-authentication/ Sep 03 20:28:25 and the command ssh-keygen don´t work Sep 03 20:28:34 What is the error? Sep 03 20:31:24 helppp: try running `ssh-add ` where you created the keys and try again Sep 03 20:36:37 afternoon folks. Have a quick question on latest (2013.08.21) image. Just finished flashing, and checked /etc/dogtag. It still states 08.19-DO-NOT-USE-FOR-PRODUCTION. can I confirm that the image is fine, and someone just forgot to update dogtag? Sep 03 20:43:47 av500: lol Sep 03 20:46:36 vxe can you send more information please? Sep 03 21:01:01 RandomGuest: it wouldn't surprise me if someone jsut forgot. they removed the "still testing" from the wiki, so... Sep 03 21:02:42 So, where can i get bealgebone white images? Sep 03 21:02:48 the images on the wiki are over a year old. Sep 03 21:03:35 holy crap, the wiki has a new sd image. my bad. Sep 03 21:03:42 first time since ever. Sep 03 21:04:25 I thought they where merged. latest BBB image worked on BBW, you just want to make sure you DON'T get the eMMC flasher image, but the regular "system image". Sep 03 21:06:32 yeah, but they weren't on the wiki page. Sep 03 21:06:41 they weren't keeping the sd images in sync with the black images. Sep 03 21:06:53 and listed them as "for convenience" Sep 03 21:07:03 but i see there's the 8.21 on there now. Sep 03 21:10:43 that's a problem with wikis in general Sep 03 21:10:54 keeping them up to date after they are written Sep 03 21:12:19 Documentation is hard. Sep 03 21:12:37 You either need a really committed team, or someone who is actually paid to do it. Ideally both Sep 03 21:20:18 meh. you should have automation to make that kind of stuff impossible. Sep 03 21:20:32 but, i suppose you could say automation is hard. Sep 03 21:20:41 so, it's hard all the way down. Sep 03 22:12:49 * SilicaGel DoNotEat Sep 03 23:36:52 smash it and snort it!! Sep 04 00:59:20 so? Sep 04 00:59:29 disregard that. Sep 04 01:08:17 honestly: i have disregarded that. Sep 04 01:08:30 everyone else, disregard that. Sep 04 01:59:56 Hello! I am very VERY new to this whole world of the BeagleBone and computer programming in general. I was wondering if someone could help me understand what a cape is and does...I have read a technical definition of it, but I don't really understand it. Sep 04 01:59:58 Thank you so much! Sep 04 02:00:16 it is just a daughterboard. Sep 04 02:00:26 one that is compatible with a BeagleBone. Sep 04 02:00:44 so what are the benefits of using one? Sep 04 02:01:07 additional functionality, depending on what the cape is made to do Sep 04 02:01:23 jkridner: it's just a circuit that someone packaged up nice for you to use. Sep 04 02:01:41 Ok, so by conecting a cape to by BeagleBone I could connect it to other things (specific to the cape) more easily? Sep 04 02:01:43 could be an audio card, a motor controller, line driver, anyhting. Sep 04 02:01:55 for example the beaglebone white had no graphics port... so there were capes for hdmi ports Sep 04 02:02:16 Oh! Okay. So it like "adds" I guess to what you can do with it Sep 04 02:02:24 yeah. and, you can stack them. Sep 04 02:02:27 in a way...maybe that's not the best description. Sep 04 02:02:30 Examples: http://beaglebonecapes.com Sep 04 02:02:31 (assuming they don't use the same pins) Sep 04 02:03:20 Guest63538: i'd say that's a perfect description. capes are just circuits that do something somewhat specific. Sep 04 02:03:21 If I wanted a motor controller cape, can I just buy one or is it a cape that I then connect the motor controller to? I'm sorry if that's a stupid question.... Sep 04 02:03:52 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Motor_w/_Screw_Blocks Sep 04 02:07:38 Ok. Thank you so much! This has been a huge help! Wish me luck & have a good day! :) Sep 04 02:08:04 Guest63538: how many motors are you looking to drive? Sep 04 02:08:22 3 or 4; I'm working on a project to create an underwater ROV Sep 04 02:08:53 Guest63538: have you seen openrov? Sep 04 02:09:18 Yeah! That site and homebuilt ROV are the main ones that I'm using! Sep 04 02:09:23 Do you have experience with them Sep 04 02:09:24 ? Sep 04 02:09:45 Guest63538: the core design is manufacturer by circuitco Sep 04 02:10:04 are you talking about the Sea Perch? Sep 04 02:10:44 http://openrov.com/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 04 02:59:58 2013