**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 18 03:00:00 2013 Sep 18 05:41:51 I have a usb device that I want to connect to the bbb, but I want to be able to only power it up some of the time -- I can grab the +5v line and take it somewhere else, but where? do I need something like a relay, using the state of a digital gpio pin to switch it? Sep 18 05:58:18 pkh, your not the only one seeking a managed USB powered hub... Sep 18 06:01:36 pkh: relay is one way Sep 18 06:01:45 some FET switch might be cheaper Sep 18 06:02:55 * N2TOH what about powered auto eject, like the old SONY 3.5" floppy drives? Sep 18 06:03:46 at the moment i'm watching the devices and if there's a problem in any of them I fire a reboot of the bbb. not an ideal solution Sep 18 06:04:40 greetings earthings, i come in JIAHD! Sep 18 06:05:41 apparently you come in lysdexia too. Sep 18 06:05:46 pkh, I sure that works for you, but how awesome would it be to launch a USB thing out of your computer after is was done with it? Sep 18 06:06:44 N2TOH: would probably save a lot of files -- the number of people who've turned up at my door with a dead usb drive and 'no idea what went wrong' Sep 18 06:07:16 if the plug wouldn't let go until the OS was done with it, life would be much better Sep 18 06:08:07 emeb_mac: it's way too early for me Sep 18 06:08:26 emeb_mac: i usually get up around 8 Sep 18 06:08:35 emeb_mac: today it was nearly 2h earlier Sep 18 06:08:38 it's never too early for JIHAD! Sep 18 06:09:37 pkh, the socket that "would not let go?, yeah that could be awesome!, after it's done it would spit out the USB device" Sep 18 06:09:54 KotH: I get up at random times - 7am +/- 2hrs. Depends on when the alarmcat goes off. Sep 18 06:10:15 sounds like me! Sep 18 06:10:50 N2TOH: you have an alarmcat? Sep 18 06:12:36 * KotH would like to have a cat, but is sure he wouldnt be able to stand her waking him up Sep 18 06:14:00 not all cats behave that way. Sep 18 06:14:24 this one can't be trusted to feed himself though. Sep 18 06:21:18 emeb_mac: it could, but it found a good attendant Sep 18 06:21:46 as they say - cats have staff. Sep 18 06:25:48 so, any eta on this usb spam in the kernel log? Sep 18 06:26:21 systemd-journal uses > 20% cpu (up to 80%) for about 20 seconds of every minute with usb plugged in Sep 18 06:26:46 and I'm seeing the a kernel thread using a constant 2% unless I disable logging to the debug console. Sep 18 06:27:18 it all goes away when i disconnect usb. Sep 18 06:27:57 err, usb rndis spam. Sep 18 06:29:14 nomel: just disable the printk Sep 18 06:29:21 nomel: takes 10min or so Sep 18 06:30:55 i'm assuming you mean recompile the kernel? Sep 18 06:31:12 yes Sep 18 06:31:40 besides, according to http://osdir.com/ml/beagleboard/2013-09/msg00925.html it's already fixed in bb builds Sep 18 06:32:24 yeah, i was just reading that, but i read it as "I just flashed BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.09.12.img, from the page you mentioned above (and verified the md5sum). But the behavior persists." Sep 18 06:32:40 well... Sep 18 06:32:49 as i said, just fix the problem at the source Sep 18 06:32:57 it's OSS for a reason, you know? Sep 18 06:33:13 oh, i read that it was a compile problem. Sep 18 06:33:35 compile problem? Sep 18 06:33:57 * KotH doenst know what problem it actually is, but fixing the source usually fixes the problem unless it's a hardware problem Sep 18 06:34:26 compile flag option, someone enabled the debug flag. Sep 18 06:34:39 so then disable the debug flag Sep 18 06:34:44 where is the problem? Sep 18 06:35:51 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard/rwnjMIG_63E/5ku-i9oWZsEJ Sep 18 06:35:56 which seems ludicrous to me. Sep 18 06:36:39 and kinda proves that whorever is building these angstrom images doesn't keep his build setup separate from his dev setup (i've seen ~/hisusername paths baked in) Sep 18 06:37:19 er... please tone down! Sep 18 06:37:34 no tone about it, just observation. Sep 18 06:37:45 who ever is providing those builds does a lot of the work in his free time as a service to other people Sep 18 06:38:07 if he does something in a way that is not optimal for you, you cannot hold him responcible for it Sep 18 06:38:13 be glad he provides images at all Sep 18 06:38:32 more worried than glad. does he have scrips to build these demo images setup for anyone to grab? Sep 18 06:38:43 last word on the newsgroup I saw was that it was all broken. Sep 18 06:39:14 if you dont like the images, build your own Sep 18 06:39:19 that's what i'm asking Sep 18 06:39:22 is it possible yet? Sep 18 06:39:23 it's neither difficult nor does it take a lot of time Sep 18 06:39:37 then you can configure them in any way you like Sep 18 06:39:45 a few weeks ago, it was broken, and not possible for anyone to build THE production image. Sep 18 06:40:26 i guess i'll give it another go. Sep 18 06:40:43 you know, you can fix these things as well Sep 18 06:40:47 or not use angström Sep 18 06:41:02 use buildroot, debian, gentoo, or whatever else floats your boat Sep 18 06:41:13 it IS open source Sep 18 06:41:25 there are hundreds of ways to get your hardware running Sep 18 06:41:40 and it takes usually less time than bitching that someone else build is broken Sep 18 06:42:46 it's free, i guess i shouldn't complain. Sep 18 06:43:14 it's not only free as in free beer. you are also given the tools and instructions to brew your own beer Sep 18 06:43:22 so you really shouldnt complain Sep 18 06:45:57 arguably brewing beer is pretty straightforward compared to setting up a cross-compile environment ;) Sep 18 06:47:26 is it? Sep 18 06:47:38 took me half a day when i first did it on a pandaboard Sep 18 06:47:50 from not knowing anything about cross compilation at all Sep 18 06:54:31 I spent maybe two days studying cross-compiling for ARM and researching known good hardware and software combinations. I then ordered a board. when it arrived I had my code running in 30 minutes. Sep 18 06:54:35 it is not rocket science.. Sep 18 06:55:24 but obviously if you do not know anything about the GNU toolchain at all then you first have to learn about that, before it makes any sense to think about cross-compiling Sep 18 07:31:23 CareBear\: knowing unix and how to write and compile c code is a must when you do embedded linux Sep 18 07:31:47 anyone who says otherwise is lying Sep 18 07:35:46 cross compiling can get tricky when you rely on libraries built with half assed cmake scripts Sep 18 07:35:54 KotH, but I can sell you this toooolll that will make up for it Sep 18 07:36:03 cmake just sucks Sep 18 07:36:11 autotools suck too, but at least they work Sep 18 07:37:03 thurgood: that's why one normaly uses an environment that builds the whole system, including the libraries Sep 18 07:37:12 thurgood: like angström, buildroot & co Sep 18 07:37:38 panto: i usually stay away from auto* as far as i can Sep 18 07:37:53 panto: i didnt have any experience with cmake yet, but maybe that's a good thing Sep 18 08:18:43 panto: dave said you might have something never than the bacon-test script... do you maybe have something to just turn the 7seg off without loading the cape, or do i have to hack up some bitbanging? Sep 18 08:34:36 hello, wondering if anyone has a gentoo eMMC image for beaglebone black? Sep 18 08:37:27 LetoThe2nd, err, what? Sep 18 08:51:27 Orlhsj6h8lQjq: erm, isn't asking for a pre-compiled gentoo distribution like asking for beef in a vegetarian restaurant? Sep 18 08:52:09 panto: after reset the 7seg on the bacon cape is blindingly bright :/ Sep 18 08:52:36 err, you have to load the cape Sep 18 08:52:47 cause the 7seg is accessed via a shift register Sep 18 08:53:07 nah, don't want to load the cape, i need to be able to tinker with the gpios directly. Sep 18 08:53:50 so probably best beat the shift register into all-off manually. Sep 18 08:53:59 yes Sep 18 08:54:09 kay :/ Sep 18 08:54:14 well, not really, since i just want it to boot, so i can replace everything on it Sep 18 08:54:52 well, actually Sep 18 08:54:57 eh yeah Sep 18 08:55:11 i found there is a sabayon linux image Sep 18 08:55:14 so im using that Sep 18 09:51:02 ok, too stupid to read right now. how to mux pins away from ic0 to gpio? Sep 18 09:51:21 Hi KotH hows .ch todya Sep 18 09:57:37 obviously by echoing something into /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pimux/* - but what? Sep 18 11:03:41 Hi, quick question. I am running Angstrom V2012.05 on BeagleboardxM rev C. I am trying to install i2c-tools from the lm-sensors page (version - 3.1.0), however I am somehow unable to install the libraries. Can anyone point me to the binaries for the same? Any pointers? Sep 18 11:16:15 Hi, quick question. I am running Angstrom V2012.05 on BeagleboardxM rev C. I am trying to install i2c-tools from the lm-sensors page (version - 3.1.0), however I am somehow unable to install the libraries. Can anyone point me to the binaries for the same? Any pointers? Sep 18 11:58:32 lite__: Are there already packages available for i2c-tools, lm-sensors in Angstrom? Sep 18 12:26:34 Guys, i would like to make a custom Image for the BeagleboneBlack, any sources references? Sep 18 12:27:36 if anyone can point me to even some guide it would be cool, i m totally stuck in a dead end. Sep 18 12:28:12 gnsx, good luck with that. I've been strugling with BBB for two months now trying to get something custom on it. Sep 18 12:28:30 cfo215: what goes wrong ? Sep 18 12:29:20 i dont know where to start. can i use narcissu on the angstorm creator to make the image? but there is no option for BBB >.< Sep 18 12:30:43 I wanna Build like a minimilistic image that just has Ethernet/WiFI PWM i2c USB and gpio functionality. so can anyone tell me like what procedure i follow? Sep 18 12:31:36 vvu|Log, getting the image onto the BBB's eMMC. Builds fine. Doesn't boot of SD card even when pressing boot button. Sep 18 12:31:54 gnsx: Try building angstrom. Once you're able to do that you can start to tinker with changing it. Or you can just go for a ptxdist or buildroot approach. Get a toolchain, cross compile the kernel then worry about userspace. Sep 18 12:32:01 cfo215: how are you trying to flash it ? Sep 18 12:32:55 If tried a basterdized emmc.sh script (prototyped from the FLASHER image.) I've tried tftp, etc. Sep 18 12:33:26 so you think the image is bad ? Sep 18 12:33:48 can you exchange the MLO and u-boot from it with the stock Angstrom ones ? Sep 18 12:34:14 no, I think the documentation and processes is wrong. Sep 18 12:34:25 documentation as in making the image ? Sep 18 12:34:27 Yeah, have tried that route too. Sep 18 12:34:40 that should work nontheless Sep 18 12:35:02 but when booting from eMMC you do not need to press the S2 button Sep 18 12:35:31 documentation like this http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black would be nice for angstrom... but it's non-existent and presumes too much knowledge on the part of the end user. Sep 18 12:35:57 vvu|Log, that's the problem, I can't get my image onto the eMMC. Sep 18 12:36:03 ok Sep 18 12:36:10 i have a solution for you Sep 18 12:36:17 Vodka? Sep 18 12:36:25 look at http://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBabb Sep 18 12:36:31 cfo215: Do you have a TTL serial cable to you can get to u-boot and see kernel printk? Sep 18 12:36:37 so* Sep 18 12:36:52 yes, I'm using that now. Sep 18 12:37:03 you can flash the eMMC directly from ur PC using the usb device port Sep 18 12:37:15 you need to have the BBB into USB Boot mode Sep 18 12:37:25 and just run the binary from there with the image you have Sep 18 12:37:31 So.. when you say it won't boot from the SD card, u-boot isn't coming up even? Or it just boots of eMMC instead or? Sep 18 12:37:35 needs to have .xz or .zip extension Sep 18 12:41:46 hello Sep 18 12:42:11 georgem, no u-boot comes up. and I can stop it from booting. Sep 18 12:42:34 cfo215: What serial terminal are you using? Sep 18 12:42:49 Make sure you have hardware flow control off Sep 18 12:43:22 is there a wiki how to build uboot,linux kernel for boards built from beaglebone design /clones. Sep 18 12:44:00 georgem, I do in minicom. Sep 18 12:44:31 vvu|Log, I'll try your setup. thanks Sep 18 12:44:47 read the howto there Sep 18 12:45:03 the binary is not statically linked so u need libusb.so on ur system Sep 18 12:45:04 oh. you said you can stop it from booting Sep 18 12:45:13 the good way is to build urself Sep 18 12:45:30 just install libusb-1.0-0-dev think so is the package Sep 18 12:45:41 hey good morning Sep 18 12:45:47 mornin Sep 18 12:45:53 gm Sep 18 12:46:04 vvu|Log, I'm in the process of trying out Robert Nelson's instructions (using debian minimal) Sep 18 12:46:07 i have a question for those willing to help Sep 18 12:46:26 yes intern Sep 18 12:46:27 cfo215: dunno about that thingie but if you need help just ping me here Sep 18 12:46:58 vvu|Log, will do, thanks for the link. I'll let you know how it goes. Sep 18 12:47:02 recently hooked up a newly purchased BBB to hdmi to a monitor, and the beagle bone logo pops up on screen, and then nothing Sep 18 12:47:04 thx! Sep 18 12:47:11 my monitor sends a "no input" on the screen, and its black Sep 18 12:47:13 hi, I'm using tiwi5 cape on my beaglebone. I try to create an ad-hoc net but I have some problem when I want to work at 5GHz. help me ! Sep 18 12:47:21 power lights are on, and the user lights are flashing Sep 18 12:47:22 cfo215: if you run that you will be the 1st tester for the project :) Sep 18 12:47:40 vvu|Log, cool. Sep 18 12:48:50 also I'm running an HDMI>DVI connection, fwiw Sep 18 12:49:09 hows the connection to tv? Sep 18 12:50:04 gopi, what do you mean? its connected to the monitor via hdmi>dvi Sep 18 12:50:09 sorry Sep 18 12:50:14 ok Sep 18 12:51:00 hi, I'm using tiwi5 cape on my beaglebone. I try to create an ad-hoc net but I have some problem when I want to work at 5GHz. help me ! Sep 18 12:51:16 @intern running android on bbb? Sep 18 12:52:13 gopi: trying to just boot the preloaded linux distro Sep 18 12:52:34 angstrom Sep 18 12:52:56 hi, I'm using tiwi5 cape on my beaglebone. I try to create an ad-hoc net but I have some problem when I want to work at 5GHz. help me ! Sep 18 12:55:26 hmm..cant help intern..no idea about microhdmi-dvi Sep 18 12:55:31 troubleshooting Sep 18 12:56:47 hdmi to dvi should be fine Sep 18 12:57:34 gopi: i apologize, its actually kind of daisy-chained, which may be an issue. its actualy micro adapter to hdmi>dvi, then dvi>dvi connected to the monitor Sep 18 12:58:00 its the only available cables we have in the office. but im not sure if thats the issue since I was still able to see the beaglebone icon pop up on screen Sep 18 12:58:37 intern_: better is to reflash the eMMC Sep 18 12:59:05 vvu|log: ok, im actually going through that process right now Sep 18 12:59:36 good Sep 18 13:02:58 vvu|Log, stupid question... your git say's its for Android... I'm guessing it will work with Linux as well? Sep 18 13:03:12 yes... Sep 18 13:03:20 lemme change it :) Sep 18 13:03:22 @intern but dvi cant carry audio i believe.. Sep 18 13:03:32 u need to have binary and fit, spl, uboot files in the same folder Sep 18 13:03:49 hi, I'm using tiwi5 cape on my beaglebone. I try to create an ad-hoc net but I have some problem when I want to work at 5GHz. help me ! Sep 18 13:03:57 gopi: you're correct, but atm im less worried about audio, more worried about getting it up and running Sep 18 13:04:28 fine Sep 18 13:06:26 @max have you checked official docs http://www.lsr.com/products-wiki?topic=TiWi-R2,+TiWi-BLE,+TiWi5 Sep 18 13:06:29 ? Sep 18 13:09:51 vvu|Log, just to be clear. I'm compiling this for my native linux system, not the BBB? Sep 18 13:10:04 yep Sep 18 13:10:12 this you run from your local machine Sep 18 13:10:24 that's what I thought... just making sure. Sep 18 13:10:24 with the BBB in USB boot mode Sep 18 13:10:26 connected to the PC Sep 18 13:11:53 connect BBB after usb boot, per instructions, or just connect everything prior to executing? Sep 18 13:12:05 does not really matter Sep 18 13:12:20 when you ahve BBB in the usb boot mode your linux machine will see it as a RNDIS network interface Sep 18 13:12:32 ensure that you do not have a bootp server on the network Sep 18 13:12:44 sounds good. I just finished compiling it. now on to testing., no bootp on net. Sep 18 13:12:49 ok Sep 18 13:13:02 ./boot emmc image.img.xz Sep 18 13:13:10 put there the name of your image Sep 18 13:13:17 ensure it is .xz or .zip format Sep 18 13:13:29 and compressed not bigger than 500MB Sep 18 13:13:31 @gopi: yes but I didn't find any information. When I try to set the frequency at 5GHz, an error message appears. I think there are some constraints in drivers, but I can't find where and how i can solve this problem Sep 18 13:13:37 any wisdom on creating my img from my rootfs and boot parts? Sep 18 13:13:47 everything is copied to RAM then dumped to eMMC Sep 18 13:13:54 nop...only kernel if u like :) Sep 18 13:16:05 that could work for me... I'll fool with it a bit and see what happens. Vielen dank! Sep 18 13:16:56 do you know how to put your BBB in usb boot mode ? Sep 18 13:17:06 i don`t think i provided instructions there :-? Sep 18 13:18:35 hi, I'm using tiwi5 cape on my beaglebone. I try to create an ad-hoc net but I have some problem when I want to work at 5GHz. When I try to set the frequency at 5GHz, an error message appears. I think there are some constraints in drivers, but I can't find where and how i can solve this problem Sep 18 13:21:58 I heard this IRC chat runs on a Beagle lol Sep 18 13:22:38 hi, I'm using tiwi5 cape on my beaglebone. I try to create an ad-hoc net but I have some problem when I want to work at 5GHz. When I try to set the frequency at 5GHz, an error message appears. I think there are some constraints in drivers, but I can't find where and how i can solve this problem Sep 18 13:23:29 what's the wireless card you are using? Sep 18 13:23:39 is there no easier way to mux gpio 4 and 5 to the pions than generating a dtbo? *sigh* Sep 18 13:25:14 max, update ur angstrorm and try maybe? Sep 18 13:25:49 is the cape made by circuito/? else u'l have to get the firmware/driver for the module u're using Sep 18 13:28:02 cfo215: i will be offline a bit, catch you l8er if you have more questions Sep 18 13:29:05 I use this command 'git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luca/wl12xx.git' to download the latest version of wl12xx driver Sep 18 13:29:35 if I try to create an ad-hoc network at 2.4 GHZ it works ! Sep 18 13:31:31 seems like a driver issue to me. Sep 18 13:32:06 can u host a ad-hoc on a windows/linux machine maybe? keeping aside the Beagle? Sep 18 13:32:38 georgem: yea Sep 18 13:35:00 I have two beaglebones (both with linux angstrom) and I try to connect only them Sep 18 13:36:50 can u link the cape ? Sep 18 13:37:52 I can connect beaglebones with an ad-hoc network at 2.4 GHz without problems Sep 18 13:38:25 max____: you can try to get hold of Luca Sep 18 13:38:31 (if he still with TI) Sep 18 13:38:48 I just pinged him Sep 18 13:39:01 ah he is here Sep 18 13:39:04 Luca256: ^^^^ Sep 18 13:39:05 but when I try to force frequency at 5 GHz the message is: error for wireless request 'set frequency' (8B04): set failed on device wlan0; invalid argument Sep 18 13:39:23 max____: nobody here with TI wifi expertise Sep 18 13:39:27 except Luca256 Sep 18 13:40:18 ok thanks Sep 18 13:41:55 max, what cape are u using? Sep 18 13:42:58 I use a BeagleBone TiWi-5E w/ Chip Antenna Sep 18 13:48:25 morning all Sep 18 13:57:55 hello hello Sep 18 13:59:26 anyone had an issue with their BBB only sometimes picking up peripherals plugged in via usb? ie. keyboard and mouse? Sep 18 14:04:34 panto: that shift reg is really driving me nuts :( Sep 18 14:04:46 LetoThe2nd, not my design :) Sep 18 14:05:25 * LetoThe2nd shakes fist Sep 18 14:06:18 whatever i feed it, all outputs stay at lo. Sep 18 14:06:59 you don't feed it right then Sep 18 14:07:05 *sigh Sep 18 14:07:10 you have to clock the data Sep 18 14:08:19 yeah sure. Sep 18 14:08:34 now wait a bit... it turned off! Sep 18 14:08:54 i should complain earlier, if it makes my stuff magically work in the future Sep 18 14:09:00 or shake more fists... hmm Sep 18 14:18:59 can anyone share insight on my USB issue? Sep 18 14:20:14 intern_: get a beagle480, plug it in between your bbb and your device, have a look at what's going on and you will be enlightened Sep 18 14:20:45 LetoThe2nd: do sandworms have hands to form fists? Sep 18 14:21:15 KotH: sandworms usually do not, as clearly stated in my biography, i do have though. Sep 18 14:21:33 KotH: I appreciate the insight, but it doesnt help me at the present moment :/ Sep 18 14:24:54 intern_: i never said that enlightenment would imediatly follow reading my lines Sep 18 14:25:09 intern_: enlightenment is a long process, you cannot hope to aquire it instantly Sep 18 14:25:41 KotH: well then i dont need enlightenment, i need a working BBB Sep 18 14:27:13 i thought you have a working bbb? Sep 18 14:30:35 well if the USB terminal isn't working, I don't very well have a working bbb Sep 18 14:48:41 av500: hello Sep 18 14:48:55 max____: still around? Sep 18 14:48:59 what was your question? Sep 18 14:49:31 ad hoc at 5ghz Sep 18 14:49:35 with tiwi5 cape Sep 18 14:49:38 2ghz works Sep 18 14:49:40 5 does not Sep 18 14:50:15 hmmm Sep 18 14:50:19 what chip is in this cape? Sep 18 14:50:22 * Luca256 googles Sep 18 14:50:30 a TI chip Sep 18 14:50:34 1281? Sep 18 14:51:01 ok, if it doesn't end with 3 (eg. 1283), it doesn't support 5GHz :) Sep 18 14:51:10 that would be an easy explanation ;) Sep 18 14:51:55 okay, seems to be a WL1273, so it should be dual-band Sep 18 14:52:09 probably the NVS file that max____ is using doesn't enable it? Sep 18 14:52:16 its advertised as 5ghz Sep 18 14:52:19 yeah Sep 18 14:52:23 1273 is dual band Sep 18 14:52:28 has anyone flashed ubuntu raring 13.04 to their bbb? the initial login of "ubuntu" password "temppwd" isn't working for me Sep 18 14:52:31 apparently that's the one in tiwi5 Sep 18 14:52:53 av500: CRDA Sep 18 14:53:00 * koenkooi disappears offline again Sep 18 14:53:17 of course it could be regulatory things too ;) Sep 18 14:53:25 operator!!! Sep 18 14:53:47 max____: can you make non-adhoc 5ghz work? Sep 18 14:54:15 hmmmm, if that's the case, it would probably be regulatory Sep 18 14:54:46 it's easier to connect to an AP that is on 5GHz than to start beaming at a certain channel yourself Sep 18 15:11:59 I am pretty frustrated in the bb xm ulcd7 since it won't support android. I am looking for some replacement and find some touch screen with SSD2533 touch controller. I still have several questions: 1. will the touch screen controller SSD2533 be supported by android? 2. there are two types of connections for touch control by the touchscreen. one is usb, and another one is i2c. which will be better? 3. for bbtoys lcd7/ulcd7, is Sep 18 15:12:38 ? Sep 18 15:12:45 android uses the linux kernel Sep 18 15:13:09 if the kernel supports the touch screen, so does android Sep 18 15:13:59 I got the angstrom img and it works Sep 18 15:14:18 but for the image for android the touchscreen won't start up Sep 18 15:15:09 so can I directly replace the linux kernel of the android with that of angstrom to make it work? Sep 18 15:15:25 no Sep 18 15:15:39 android needs some more patches on top of std linux Sep 18 15:16:48 I saw that bb xm by default does not support touch function for android Sep 18 15:17:11 the BB XM is hardware Sep 18 15:17:14 it does not care Sep 18 15:17:31 yes, maybe the android image available does not support that Sep 18 15:18:16 the manufacture of a touchscreen can provide the code to initialize the touchscreen Sep 18 15:18:24 meanwhile Sep 18 15:19:18 they are providing two options for touch, one is through i2c and another is through usb Sep 18 15:19:44 which will be an easier option for android with bb xm? Sep 18 15:20:19 my plan is to use hdmi for lcd display, and usb or i2c for touch function Sep 18 15:20:31 wil. Sep 18 15:21:01 since hdmi works well on a pc lcd Sep 18 15:21:17 and the only thing left is the touch function Sep 18 15:21:53 do you think it will work, and should I choose i2c or usb for touch function? Sep 18 15:23:04 I have the bbxm lcd7 and cannot find proper android img Sep 18 15:23:32 anyone can help? Sep 18 15:28:06 depends Sep 18 15:28:11 hand holding you wont get Sep 18 15:50:27 hey everyone Sep 18 15:50:38 im having an ethernet issue Sep 18 16:26:55 anyone here know how to tie the push-buttons on the front of the BB LCD7 Cape to the S2 (boot) button on the BBB? It would make it easier for flashing it... Sep 18 16:27:12 Short of soldering them that is... Sep 18 16:27:47 tie? Sep 18 16:27:52 solder a jumper Sep 18 16:28:42 cfo215: any results with my flasher? Sep 18 16:29:04 vvu|Log, haven't tried yet. but I will. Sep 18 16:29:18 k Sep 18 16:31:11 vvu|Log: I need to rush home now Sep 18 16:31:19 av500, what I'd like is to be able to apply power to the BBB while holding down the "Enter" key on the LCD7 instead of having to disconnect the BBB from the cape and press the S2 (boot) button. Which is very hard to reach when they are connected. Sep 18 16:31:32 ok i`m going to test again on my n7 Sep 18 16:31:33 solder 2 wires Sep 18 16:32:27 oh, joy... thanks, now where is my iron... Sep 18 16:32:46 right next to you I hope Sep 18 16:33:00 about four feet away :) Sep 18 16:33:37 that's .... tolerable Sep 18 16:33:55 I cant work without the soft clicking of the Magnastat Sep 18 16:36:23 vvu|Log, one clarification. I plug the BBB via the mini usb port. not the full size USB ports. Sep 18 16:37:26 yep Sep 18 16:37:52 ok, trying now... I'll let you know how it worked out. Sep 18 16:39:55 ok Sep 18 16:40:06 is ftdi based ttl to usb cable of any added use compared to non ftdi and cheaper cable ? Sep 18 16:41:55 I like ftdi Sep 18 16:46:16 for ? and why Sep 18 16:47:23 Here's something haptic: BeagleBone running Xenomai master + linux3.8.13 under the hood of LinuxCNC driving an engraving machine: Sep 18 16:47:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lMM-bSx6cc Sep 18 16:50:19 vvu|Log, Sorry, it didn't work. My Fedora never recognized the BBB. But my image doesn't have the usbgadets loaded on it. Sep 18 16:50:37 ahh...bad luck to me if so Sep 18 16:51:20 I promise I'll try it with a stock image sometime... but need to get my custom image on today. Sep 18 16:51:50 If I had a spare sd card I'd try off that. Sep 18 16:53:55 cfo215: w8 Sep 18 16:54:05 are u sure that the BBB is in usb boot mode ? Sep 18 16:54:16 in fedora does the kernel see the BBB as an usb device ? Sep 18 16:54:29 because it must see it as an USB RNDIS device Sep 18 16:54:33 when in usb boot mode Sep 18 16:57:23 av500: any reason ? Sep 18 17:11:54 Hello guys. Is there any HW difference in Original BeagleBone between revision A6b and A6? Sep 18 17:12:44 probably, thats why u have 2 different revision Sep 18 17:13:03 have you checked revision history ? Sep 18 17:43:00 test Sep 18 17:44:30 just powered up beagle bone black, gui works, but when i did opkg update, opkg upgrade Sep 18 17:44:51 after a while it gives me errors saying I should opkg update Sep 18 17:45:22 but I did a opkg update; opkg upgrade; reboot; opkg update; opkg upgrade same problems Sep 18 17:45:32 I did it again and again same problem Sep 18 18:29:05 what pb Sep 18 19:37:49 RyRap, checked on site and there's no evidence of a rev A6b, though my board has a sticker that reads "BeagleBone Rev. A6b" Sep 18 19:38:48 And according to http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone#Rev_A6A there was no HW change from between rev A6 and A6a Sep 18 20:16:46 read this : http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone#Revision_A6B Sep 18 21:49:40 Hey what does it mean it there are 4 LEDs constantly lit on the Begale Bone Black? Sep 18 21:55:53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_eSwq1ewsU Sep 18 22:38:50 Hey what does it mean it there are 4 LEDs constantly lit on the Begale Bone Black? Sep 18 22:47:29 Hi, it is possible to use this hdmi cable to have audio out of bealgebone? http://www.ebay.it/itm/TRIXES-PC-HDMI-to-VGA-SVGA-RGB-Video-Audio-Cable-Converter-Adapter-/200960173153?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2eca28e461 Sep 18 23:16:22 anybody here Sep 18 23:16:33 yeah Sep 18 23:19:47 just powered up beagle bone black, gui works, but when i did opkg update, opkg upgrade after a while it gives me errors saying I should opkg update but I did a opkg update; opkg upgrade; reboot; opkg update; opkg upgrade same problems I did it again and again same problem Sep 18 23:21:31 alright time to go back to raspberry pi Sep 18 23:21:45 is it connected to the internet? hate to say it, never booted the angstrom image.. first thing I did was install debian on an SD card Sep 18 23:22:05 where did you get debian? Sep 18 23:22:21 and were you able to play videos? Sep 18 23:22:25 any videos at all? Sep 18 23:22:38 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Debian_NetInstall Sep 18 23:23:17 which one the netinstall or the demo? Sep 18 23:23:27 I haven't actually had it connected to anything with HDMI.. using it as a low power headless box.. but it runs x so videos should work Sep 18 23:23:42 is there an instruction somewhere that instructs peope to actually try using opkg upgrade? Sep 18 23:23:45 i did the netinstall Sep 18 23:24:02 using serial Sep 18 23:25:28 thanks thecaptain Sep 18 23:25:46 no problem Sep 18 23:25:49 angstrom sucks arse Sep 18 23:26:17 I need a light head to my headless virtual server host Sep 18 23:26:30 so far i have a raspberry pi as a remote "head" Sep 18 23:26:47 so I'm trying this beaglebone, nice hardware, but no software support Sep 18 23:27:17 just some advice, use a usb wifi adapter or something and external power (not usb).. if you add --firmware to your command line to build the image, those will all work Sep 18 23:27:30 yeah debian is going to have way more software Sep 18 23:28:01 why not use usb? i'm on it now and its using usb Sep 18 23:28:23 usb will not provide enough power to run a wifi adapter Sep 18 23:28:32 the usb and the power jack are not tied? Sep 18 23:28:35 you'll get weird crashes and it will seem like the board hung Sep 18 23:28:52 but it didnt come with a power supply Sep 18 23:29:04 will any 5v 1A power supply do? Sep 18 23:29:18 your usb port on your host machine will only supply 500ma.. you need like 250 ma for the bbb without HDMI, plus 100+ ma for the wireless Sep 18 23:29:23 and theres no indication of the tip being positive or negative Sep 18 23:29:25 yeah... should be fine Sep 18 23:29:56 the inside is positive Sep 18 23:29:57 but the wall plugin ac to USB adapter supplys 4A Sep 18 23:30:00 and 5 v Sep 18 23:30:35 i wasn't able to get that to work reliably.. that was just my experience Sep 18 23:30:43 i also built my own AC to 12V to 5V to USB supply Sep 18 23:30:50 5A Sep 18 23:31:06 i bought this.. works pretty well http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-PHIHONG-PSAC05R-050-SWITCHING-ADAPTER/dp/B00A72X2RY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379547047&sr=8-1&keywords=phihong+5v Sep 18 23:31:54 i better jump on it only 8 left Sep 18 23:32:04 link Sep 18 23:32:50 sorry im actually on my atom d2800 fanless, not the beaglebone. I get confused. i have 2 hdmi inputs and 1 vga input Sep 18 23:33:00 so i have three pcs connected to my one monitor Sep 18 23:33:55 people who just joined in : angstrom sucks Sep 18 23:34:20 new board and cant update properly. only partially updates then acts weird Sep 18 23:35:28 maybe the emmc is corrupted? dunno.. is there an image to update the flash with? Sep 18 23:35:48 now I wanna get a 64gb class 12 microsd card heh Sep 18 23:36:33 wot? is that the only way to update it? by flashing the entire image? Sep 18 23:36:54 no I don't think so.. but if the image is wrecked there has to be a way to replace it Sep 18 23:37:04 like I said though, I have never booted angstrom on the thing Sep 18 23:37:20 no its a new board Sep 18 23:37:47 nothing is wrecked Sep 18 23:38:19 there has to be someone here that knows more about angstrom than I do Sep 18 23:39:07 angstrom website tells you google , but i've been searching all day and cant find sheeeet Sep 18 23:52:12 iced-ink Sep 19 00:13:47 it is possible to output audio with a hdmi audio cable likte this? http://www.ebay.it/itm/TRIXES-PC-HDMI-to-VGA-SVGA-RGB-Video-Audio-Cable-Converter-Adapter-/200960173153?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2eca28e461 Sep 19 00:24:32 looking at the pru, what's the difference between sub and suc? Sep 19 00:25:08 sub says reg2 = reg1 - value Sep 19 00:25:19 suc says reg2 = reg1 - value - carry Sep 19 00:25:43 but i dont' get where the carry comes from? unless it's the carry from the (reg1 - value) part Sep 19 00:37:30 carry from some previous instruction I presume Sep 19 01:10:15 exit **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 19 02:59:59 2013