**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 22 03:00:00 2013 Sep 22 03:02:19 im trying to build kernel for ubuntu BBB. but i cant find the correct doc to do so.. Sep 22 03:02:30 i found RobertCNelson/stable-kernel Sep 22 03:05:02 but when i do ./build_kernel.sh it ask me to checkout a branch Sep 22 03:05:20 idk what branch is for beaglebone black Sep 22 03:06:30 bmatusiak_: I'm not sure what the prefered way is to build the BBB kernel. I downloaded the stock 3.8.13 kernel and then applied patches from http://rcn-ee.net/deb/raring-armhf/v3.8.13-bone21/ Sep 22 03:06:48 but, I'm having issues with a kernel module, so I don't know if I'd take my advice :) Sep 22 03:07:34 im currently useing 3.8.13-bone28 deb packaged from same site Sep 22 03:08:39 I would think you could just go grab the stock kernel https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/ and then apply the patches... I'm not sure what the github scripts provide Sep 22 03:09:00 exactly what i was thinking.. Sep 22 03:09:11 just had to ask to see what others think Sep 22 03:27:42 head banging time Sep 22 04:49:56 hi everyone... I have a problem with my BBB. After doing opkg upgrade -r and restarting my BBB does not have any USR lights. I only have power and ethernet lights. I tried pressing a power button for a while but it only blinks once after about 5-7 sec. SD image does not seem to load. The USR lights are all off. Anything else I should try? Sep 22 04:51:41 I have a pretty similar issue, no userled's trying to boot from emmc. Sep 22 04:52:21 It seems like it does not want to power on... Sep 22 04:53:14 do you get leds when you try to boot of microSD? Sep 22 04:53:29 no Sep 22 04:54:19 I only have power and ethernet leds Sep 22 04:56:01 I get 3 solid led's then after a while the 4th lights up. nothing passed that with a microSD boot. I had it working off of microsd about an hour ago, seems like this thing is just frying or something. weird. Sep 22 04:56:39 well, at least you get leds P Sep 22 04:56:55 heh... was better when they flashed! ;) Sep 22 04:57:09 still no led's booting without an SD card tho. Sep 22 04:57:36 guess this is where a proper serial connection is handy, to see what's going on. Sep 22 04:59:16 guess there is only so many things you can do with 3 buttons Sep 22 04:59:53 hah, yeah. I've tried just about everything the past few days, just goes from worse to down right shitty. Sep 22 05:00:29 how do you return it? Sep 22 05:00:45 or exchange it Sep 22 05:00:47 haved you tried re-writing the image to the sd card? Sep 22 05:01:05 and booting from that? Sep 22 05:01:12 i get no usr lights at all Sep 22 05:01:17 so Sep 22 05:01:23 many times, angstrom/debian/ubuntu both console and flasher versions. when my microsd was working. Sep 22 05:01:32 its cause uboot is foobar Sep 22 05:01:45 unplug all power Sep 22 05:01:52 wait 15 sec Sep 22 05:01:55 insert sd Sep 22 05:02:04 hold putton Sep 22 05:02:22 plug in power wile holding boot-btn for 15 more sec Sep 22 05:02:55 nice. Sep 22 05:03:05 that booted my microsd again. :) Sep 22 05:03:07 thanks Sep 22 05:03:09 heh Sep 22 05:03:09 yea :P Sep 22 05:03:22 i still get no lights ( Sep 22 05:03:29 will try to reimage sd Sep 22 05:03:33 yea Sep 22 05:03:37 reimage your sd Sep 22 05:03:56 might as well make sure you get the latest one that just came out a few weeks ago. Sep 22 05:04:07 i use armhf.com's ubuntu 12.04 Sep 22 05:04:43 yeah, I was going debian myself, used it for years. but I'll let this angstrom reflash here and see if it works first. Sep 22 05:04:58 then i do http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Install_Latest_Kernel_Image Sep 22 05:05:09 does plymouth work under bbb? Sep 22 05:05:20 yea Sep 22 05:05:34 it comes in the armhf.com's image Sep 22 05:05:47 used for failsafe networking Sep 22 05:05:54 nice Sep 22 05:10:08 ive been trying to build kernel for the last 10 hours Sep 22 05:10:14 no luck Sep 22 05:10:59 im so use to x86 its not even funny Sep 22 05:11:06 heh, yeah. Sep 22 05:11:29 I feel alittle lost right now myself, lots to learn Sep 22 05:11:33 i think im just going to build it on the beaglebone its self Sep 22 05:11:52 yeah, why not. Sep 22 05:12:10 I'll be doing that... alittle longer, but might as well. Sep 22 05:12:16 i wanted a automated build on a faster machine :/ Sep 22 05:13:05 can you get a config file from the one already built? Sep 22 05:13:05 but i did get my case in the mail for my BBB Sep 22 05:13:39 theres many different bulds Sep 22 05:14:27 you can take one, and then go from there, if you have a screen, setup grub and dual boot multiple kernels Sep 22 05:14:40 just gonna build my own. this bbb is going in the 90gal aquarium for it's controller. Sep 22 05:14:54 lol the beaglebone dont have grub Sep 22 05:15:33 it uses lilo?/ Sep 22 05:15:39 uboot Sep 22 05:15:39 heh Sep 22 05:16:09 my bad, i;m x86 myself Sep 22 05:16:14 dual boot would be..... emmc vs sd Sep 22 05:16:29 with the boot. btn in the mix Sep 22 05:16:33 :P Sep 22 05:17:22 gotta be a way to change kernels in emmc, since its so big Sep 22 05:18:16 you can you just have to edit /boot/ files Sep 22 05:18:41 but there is no way to change it on emmc during pre-boot Sep 22 05:18:54 afaik Sep 22 05:19:45 i still get not lights .. grr Sep 22 05:21:07 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Booting_Linux_kernel_using_U-Boot Sep 22 05:21:13 interesting read Sep 22 05:21:56 will have to play with this on bbb Sep 22 05:22:51 booting root system over nfs... could get fun. heh. Sep 22 05:24:22 oleggar, does it boot? Sep 22 05:24:34 no, i;m trying a differe img file Sep 22 05:24:57 i still had no lights other than power. weird Sep 22 05:25:38 and it boots? Sep 22 05:25:47 lol no Sep 22 05:26:00 are you hooked up to a screen? Sep 22 05:26:03 i'm trying different image Sep 22 05:26:07 or serial console? Sep 22 05:26:07 no Sep 22 05:26:19 no just dc power Sep 22 05:26:39 any usb hub? Sep 22 05:26:44 or usb Sep 22 05:26:50 Newbie, narcissus adittional packages guideline anyone ? Sep 22 05:27:22 no i dont have a hub hooked up Sep 22 05:27:35 nilking, whua? Sep 22 05:28:15 o Sep 22 05:28:31 humm no idea.. i think its only a rootfs builder tho Sep 22 05:38:14 is there a c ompiler for the PRU's yet? Or am stuck to learn assembly? Sep 22 05:39:02 "stuck"? It's a privilege! An adventure! Sep 22 05:39:16 hahaha... yeah. i guess. :P Sep 22 05:39:55 have you done any work with the PRU's? Sep 22 05:40:52 I would like to control multiple pwm led's with it for realtime access. I think I'll get to much latency with the linux overhead. Sep 22 05:41:11 PRU's seems to be the answer on this box. Sep 22 05:43:30 I haven't worked with them myself. Lots of folks have though - seems like your project is about right. Sep 22 05:44:27 ok, i tried different image file, it still not giving me lights Sep 22 05:44:42 what else should i try? Sep 22 05:48:46 what does the uenv.txt on the sd card say? Sep 22 05:49:32 optargs=fixrtc loadfdt=ext4load mmc ${mmcdev}:2 ${fdtaddr} /boot/dtbs/${fdtfile} loaduimage=mw.l 4804c134 fe1fffff; if ext4load mmc 0:2 ${loadaddr} /boot/zImage; then mw.l 4804c194 01200000; echo Booting from external microSD...; setenv mmcdev 0; else setenv mmcdev 1; if test $mmc0 = 1; then setenv mmcroot /dev/mmcblk1p2 rw; fi; ext4load mmc 1:2 ${loadaddr} /boot/zImage && mw.l 4804c194 00c00000; echo Booting from internal eMMC...; fi Sep 22 05:50:37 guess there is a limit on text Sep 22 05:51:18 no worries Sep 22 05:51:36 ${loadaddr} - ${fdtaddr} uenvcmd=i2c mw 0x24 1 0x3e; run findfdt; if test $board_name = A335BNLT; then setenv mmcdev 1; mmc dev ${mmcdev}; if mmc rescan; then setenv mmc1 1; else setenv mmc1 0; fi; fi; setenv mmcdev 0; mmc dev ${mmcdev}; if mmc rescan; then setenv mmc0 1; else setenv mmc0 0; fi; run loaduimage && run loadfdt && run mmcboot Sep 22 05:54:39 hrmm... Sep 22 05:55:40 which image working for you? Sep 22 05:55:42 bmatusiak_: thanks bro, your solution worked for me, just successfully flashed the latest angstrom to the emmc and it boot fine to now. Sep 22 05:56:07 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software Sep 22 05:56:15 Production Image 2013.09.04 Sep 22 05:56:53 guess I'll try ubuntu. ;) Sep 22 05:57:39 thanks. I have tried 6-20 one with no success, and 13.4 ubuntu Sep 22 05:57:55 i'll try this image file before calling it night Sep 22 05:58:41 oleggar: also, for shits and giggles, maybe just try this in the uenv.txt: Sep 22 05:58:42 setmmcroot=setenv mmcroot /dev/mmcblk0p2 rw Sep 22 05:59:45 do i just eraze the rest of the code? Sep 22 05:59:55 it worked for me a couple of hours ago when I couldn't get the emmc directly. but then again, I had led's with the sd in, so not guarenteeing anything. Sep 22 06:00:42 yeah Sep 22 06:01:21 I had one other line in, it was the "optargs=run_hardware_tests quiet" Sep 22 06:01:53 that actually booted my emmc from the sd and got to ubuntu. Sep 22 06:03:11 still no lights Sep 22 06:03:28 is there a way to find out if processor is alive? Sep 22 06:03:50 what is your host? Sep 22 06:04:11 ? Sep 22 06:04:19 your computer your on? windows? Sep 22 06:04:36 windows atm, i can boot to linux Sep 22 06:05:23 well... In windows, I noticed when I just had a power led and nothing else... every 15 sec's or so... something would show up in the device manager under other... the processor basically... does this happen for you? Sep 22 06:05:58 it was AM52xx Processor or something to that effect. Sep 22 06:06:12 that's what gave me some hope the processor wasn't fried. heh. Sep 22 06:06:39 so if your problem was like mine, it's like it's stuck in an infinite reboot cycle. Sep 22 06:07:32 its strange that I do not get any lights at all. It should at least show it tried to boot Sep 22 06:07:41 am I going to lose any performance going from angstrom to ubunutu or debian? Sep 22 06:07:49 yeah Sep 22 06:08:16 my device manager is clean Sep 22 06:08:20 without a serial connection, it'll be hard to fully know what's happening and to what state the machine is getting to. Sep 22 06:09:22 hrmm... Sep 22 06:09:34 really not sure I can help yeah man. sorry. Sep 22 06:09:57 that 15 second trick worked on mine. Sep 22 06:09:57 thanks for trying Sep 22 06:10:42 i held it down for 30 still nothing, Sep 22 06:11:07 Holding down power button only flashes the power led every 5 sec Sep 22 06:11:18 it does not seem to want to boot Sep 22 06:12:16 give the latest image a shot, why not. heh. Sep 22 06:13:25 unzipping it now Sep 22 06:13:32 good luck Sep 22 06:13:59 thanks, i was already having fun with the board untill i tried to reboot it Sep 22 06:18:09 gonna try ubuntu 13.04 again myself here, hopefully this doesn't screw up like last time! :) Sep 22 06:28:38 tach Sep 22 06:43:09 It seems like not possible to modify PWMSS_CTRL register without . Is there any body who knows why? I guess it is related with pinctrl. Sep 22 07:35:24 [kernel] ZubairLK opened pull request #62: 3.11 continuous mainlined (3.11...3.11-continuous-mainlined) http://git.io/WPB02w Sep 22 07:37:34 [kernel] ZubairLK closed pull request #54: Add continuous sampling support to 3.11-rc2 (3.11...3.11rc2-continuous-adc) http://git.io/ghna_A Sep 22 08:25:00 hi Sep 22 08:25:12 i have one question Sep 22 08:25:36 will you help me Sep 22 08:26:53 any one will help me? Sep 22 08:27:27 just ask Sep 22 08:27:40 also, consult the topic Sep 22 08:28:27 i am using Beagle board Board , and just want to know where i can downlode K source & U source. Sep 22 08:28:45 is it both BB & BBB are same? Sep 22 08:28:51 i found "http://www.eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black" Sep 22 08:32:15 shall i follow those ? Sep 22 08:33:39 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 2 new commits to 3.11: http://git.io/mXP9fg Sep 22 08:33:40 kernel/3.11 31d04da Zubair Lutfullah: Adds TSCADC module... Sep 22 08:33:40 kernel/3.11 5cc8d68 Koen Kooi: Merge pull request #62 from ZubairLK/3.11-continuous-mainlined... Sep 22 08:35:11 vasanth_: there is also a http://www.eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone page Sep 22 08:35:44 oops, also http://www.eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBoard Sep 22 08:36:44 Thanks quale & BeagleGithub Sep 22 09:06:13 Koth, I am using the beagleboard-xM with angstrom and developing the QT app please help me in selecting the additional packages from Narcissus website Sep 22 09:07:09 nilking: sure Sep 22 09:07:21 nilking: that makes 200CHF per hour, to be paid upfront Sep 22 09:08:02 nilking: partial hours have to be paid fully Sep 22 09:08:19 cash or check ? Sep 22 09:08:36 can u help me ? Sep 22 09:08:59 nilking: i'm swiss. we do not use checks. we usually transfer money electronically from bank to bank Sep 22 09:09:31 i can help you, but you seem to want to have a paid service. or why else would you ask me directly? Sep 22 09:09:56 n I am Indian usually we open the accounts in the your swiss banks Sep 22 09:10:23 and you usually harras people with your questions in very impolite ways Sep 22 09:10:42 I got an answer from you last time so why to waste time ? Sep 22 09:10:55 because i am not your personal help service Sep 22 09:11:15 just because i helped you once doesnt mean i am inclined to help you again Sep 22 09:12:13 look, there is a certain etiquette in irc channels, and one of the most important ones is: 1) you are not entitled to receive help and 2) do not ask people directly or using private messages unless you have been asked to do so Sep 22 09:12:29 you should stick to that Sep 22 09:12:30 EOD Sep 22 09:12:37 I was expecting , do i hv to add will u please before my question ? Sep 22 09:13:05 ok Sep 22 09:39:14 hi Sep 22 10:09:40 narsissus website additional packages selection for beagleboard and QT application anyone please help Sep 22 11:19:16 I wanna do the remote debugging with my beaglboard-xm on the angstrom do I have to download the SDK simple toolchain ? anybuddy ? Sep 22 11:19:21 [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/0clsrw Sep 22 11:19:21 kernel/3.12 c0ec6ca Koen Kooi: 3.12: update to latest mainline, fix merge conflicts... Sep 22 11:25:15 hmmm Sep 22 11:47:43 11 Sep 22 11:47:47 ups Sep 22 12:20:29 Has anyone managed to get 1366x760 framebuffer output over hdmi working on a beaglebone black? Sep 22 12:21:15 specifically, the native res of an atrix lapdock; I'm having a heck of a lot of trouble getting this thing reliably pick a reasonable resolution/timing set Sep 22 12:32:21 quale: hmm I guess it should work Sep 22 12:36:14 The most progress I've had is when trying to force 720x480@60... sometimes, if the screen is on at just the right moment during the boot process, it'll work Sep 22 12:36:49 otherwise it comes up wth a weird scrambled display. Almost like a digital version of if it were a CRT trying to display bad hsync/vsync parameters Sep 22 12:36:54 I thought people had used the bone (both white and black) with the atrix Sep 22 12:38:51 Seems that people have, but info is kinda sparse and sometimes contradictory... Couple of the RPi folks definitely have, so there's lots of info there, but I dunno how much is applicable Sep 22 12:40:09 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/BGFpLNQNJfI Sep 22 12:41:08 http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack_HDMI Sep 22 13:11:18 hi Sep 22 13:11:44 hello Sep 22 13:12:20 i would to buy a beagleboard, i would like to know, if it can works with my nokia 770 with usb hub, in host mode Sep 22 13:13:23 and which is the more recent and fast ARM omap used on beagleboard ? Sep 22 13:19:42 <_av500_> BBB works in host mode Sep 22 13:19:45 <_av500_> and in device mode Sep 22 13:19:53 <_av500_> it does not have an OMAP CPU Sep 22 13:19:57 <_av500_> the BB XM has an OMAP3 Sep 22 13:20:04 <_av500_> and also works in host and device mode Sep 22 13:23:48 i saw the beagle board xm, very interesting, i think i'll go to buy as soon as possible Sep 22 13:24:53 i loved alway the Texas Instruments omap cpu's Sep 22 13:26:21 but omap is dead. it didnt survive omapgeddon Sep 22 13:26:32 to the same time TI, is not in the middle of discussions, and there not any report on chinalaborwatch on TI, ST Microelectronics and few ones Sep 22 13:26:55 *sigh* Sep 22 13:27:15 just because they are hiding it better... Sep 22 13:27:18 omap is not dead, there are again many applications for omap Sep 22 13:27:54 they must not hide nothing, to the contrary of the other ones Sep 22 13:29:06 next cpu arm omap, will find in many other devices Sep 22 13:29:36 yes...yes... Sep 22 13:29:43 anyways.. i need a js coding slave... Sep 22 13:29:46 any volunteers? Sep 22 13:29:52 i'll pay in good swiss chocolate :) Sep 22 13:31:00 js, i don't use non free software Sep 22 13:31:15 *sigh* Sep 22 13:31:24 js is a programming language Sep 22 13:31:40 it does not say anything about whether the code written in it is free or not Sep 22 13:33:23 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAP Sep 22 13:34:17 it's a programming language of a dead corporation: Sun Microsystems, bought from Oracle Sep 22 13:34:23 er.. Sep 22 13:34:25 no! Sep 22 13:34:31 js has nothing to do with java Sep 22 13:34:39 not at all Sep 22 13:34:51 js means java script Sep 22 13:35:01 yes? Sep 22 13:35:11 so it's based on java Sep 22 13:35:17 no Sep 22 13:35:30 and i am not interested in js Sep 22 13:35:44 anyway i don't use scripts Sep 22 13:36:21 i use C C++ CGI HTML FREECOBOL RPG SQL Sep 22 13:36:37 when i need Sep 22 13:36:54 usually i use HTML and CGI Sep 22 13:37:24 if you go by name, then the programming language "go" developed by google is the same as the programming language "go" developped by francis mccabe Sep 22 13:37:48 in rare situations C and C++ and more less in FREECOBOL RPG SQL Sep 22 13:37:57 yeah.. yeah.. Sep 22 13:38:07 you can go to develop for GOOGLE Sep 22 13:38:24 i am not interested to develop for a corporation Sep 22 13:38:47 you have not yet understood that i hate corporations Sep 22 13:39:02 how old are you? 14? Sep 22 13:39:17 corporations love only the bottom line, watch the movie The Corporation Sep 22 13:39:34 yes, you are 14 Sep 22 13:39:50 no, i am a supporter of Free Software Foundation Sep 22 13:40:11 ah, you are religious! Sep 22 13:40:15 that explains a lot of things! Sep 22 13:40:31 you have not yet understood that for me does not exist other languages that is Free Software Sep 22 13:41:06 yes, i have understood that you don't understand that there is no free or non-free for languages Sep 22 13:45:23 yes sure, i am a religious of INFORMATICS read please http://ur1.ca/epsuf Sep 22 13:45:43 i am not interested in interpreters, i used when i was 13 y.o. Sep 22 13:46:00 i use compilers for C and C++ Sep 22 13:46:14 ad debuggers such as GDB Sep 22 13:46:16 dude! Sep 22 13:46:18 GCC Sep 22 13:46:23 GNU/MAKE Sep 22 13:46:27 i've been in the OSS world longer than you Sep 22 13:46:40 i know what goes there and what not. i know what the term hacker means and what it doesnt Sep 22 13:46:44 i don't think Sep 22 13:46:55 i also know that the FSF is a religious organisation who tries to destroy OSS Sep 22 13:46:58 and anyway you will be always more old than me Sep 22 13:47:11 of course Sep 22 13:47:17 that's the thing with age Sep 22 13:47:26 yes sure, interested to destroy OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE Sep 22 13:47:27 it grows continously with a constant age, for everyone Sep 22 13:48:05 the definition of opensource is not correct, because it means opened and source that the code is available Sep 22 13:48:20 but is not explained which license Sep 22 13:48:32 anyway open source is not free software, Sep 22 13:48:59 open source missed the focus of free software movment and free software freedom Sep 22 13:49:06 yes, free software is just a subset of OSS Sep 22 13:49:31 open source is interested only to the distribution of software, indipendently from the term of license Sep 22 13:49:44 open source is arrived in 1997, Sep 22 13:49:53 you have a very weird definition of OSS Sep 22 13:49:59 so it's is arrived after the free software Sep 22 13:50:11 free software is arrived in 1983 Sep 22 13:50:47 and precisely, 27 September 1983 -27 September 2013 (30 Years) http://gnu.org/gnu30 Sep 22 13:53:12 err.. Sep 22 13:53:40 you are aware that OSS began it's life in the 60's? Sep 22 13:53:58 http://ur1.ca/d6qi4 http://ur1.ca/fnu6h http://ur1.ca/epsuf http://ur1.ca/fnu76 Sep 22 13:53:58 most software back than was OSS, thus it didnt need a special lable Sep 22 13:54:34 open source is not started in 60 years, because the definition of open source arrived only in 1997 Sep 22 13:54:51 was not known the term of free software such as open source Sep 22 13:55:10 was known only the availability to exchange the source code Sep 22 13:55:48 oh yes, right. the earth didnt exist before the first man called it earth... right Sep 22 13:55:56 in 1997 Linus Benedict Torvalds; Eric S Raymond and few other ones decided to left the open source movment Sep 22 13:56:11 er.. Sep 22 13:56:18 and started to speak about open source Sep 22 13:56:31 years later the founded the Linux Foundation Sep 22 13:56:36 you know that ESR was the head of the open source iniciative for years? and that torvalds hates the FSF? Sep 22 13:56:52 this is their own point, their own focus is to do money Sep 22 13:57:02 you have quite a few things wrong about history Sep 22 13:57:06 you should go and read wikipedia Sep 22 13:57:29 the focus of free software foundation is not to do money, but to offer an operating system totally free software Sep 22 13:57:56 http://opensource.org/osd Sep 22 13:57:58 at which they failed.. Sep 22 13:58:12 they have not failed, that is the difference Sep 22 13:58:17 they failed Sep 22 13:58:22 to think to money, or to freedom Sep 22 13:58:28 there is still no FSF approved and FSF devloped operating system Sep 22 13:58:29 i prefeer freedom to money Sep 22 13:58:45 when you are not free you can't do nothing with money Sep 22 13:59:05 but you are free to starve because you dont have money to buy bread Sep 22 13:59:19 yes there is GNU/linux gNewSense and GNU/linux Ututo, such as GNU/linux Trisquel Sep 22 13:59:40 in this last one one, the FSF has worked to put it on the membership card Sep 22 13:59:53 there is no GNU/linux. because linux is not developed under the GNU umbrella Sep 22 14:00:14 you know few things of free software foundation, and you speak without to know the things Sep 22 14:00:32 really? Sep 22 14:00:35 what do i not know? Sep 22 14:00:41 i know very well free software foundation, its own staff and personally Richard Matthew Stallman Sep 22 14:00:56 so what? Sep 22 14:01:02 all about Free software, or you don't speak so Sep 22 14:01:03 i've met RMS as well, wasnt impressed Sep 22 14:01:59 speak about me, and you will see, that they are emotioned to have me to the Massachvssets Institvte Of Technology Sep 22 14:02:26 i eat with RMS; Dora Scilipoti and Juan Carlos Gentile Sep 22 14:03:59 this is the difference, i write with RMS when i want, and with the staff of fsf, such as i am subscribed in many newsletters of free software foundation Sep 22 14:04:38 well, i eat and drink together with av500! Sep 22 14:05:01 i even have his phone number! Sep 22 14:05:37 i don't approve DRM; i don't use EPUB; GIF; JPE; AVI; WMV; FLV; SWF; MOV; BMP; DOC; HTM; MP3; MP4; AAC; MPEG; RTF; .... Sep 22 14:06:31 * TehCaptain had lunch with Dr. Dre Sep 22 14:06:51 i use only DBK; FLAC; HTML; ODT; MKV; OGA; OGG; OGV; PS; SVN; TEX; TEXI; TXT Sep 22 14:07:19 * KotH points out that postscript is not a free format Sep 22 14:07:27 you have to pay license fees to adobe if you want to use it Sep 22 14:07:33 i don't use flash, i use GNASH or NOSCRIPT Sep 22 14:08:00 PS is free software, or FSF never decided to support it, and decide to say FS Sep 22 14:08:06 lol Sep 22 14:08:15 boy, you are great! Sep 22 14:08:18 i like you Sep 22 14:09:00 i am sorry, but i don't know your frined av500, it's only a nick, not a name and surname of a person Sep 22 14:10:35 well, you'd know him if you'd have seen him Sep 22 14:10:40 he is hard to overlook Sep 22 14:11:17 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/87 Sep 22 14:11:58 and also related: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/245 Sep 22 14:13:42 http://ur1.ca/fnud8 http://ur1.ca/fnudg http://ur1.ca/exesf http://ur1.ca/fnue1 http://ur1.ca/fnue8 Sep 22 14:15:15 also, not to forget: av500 is a hero! even linus torvalds wanted to take a picture with him! Sep 22 14:15:48 26+26=52 not 54 Sep 22 14:16:05 <_vicash_> KotH: what is av500's real name ? :) Sep 22 14:16:25 _vicash_: av500 is av500's real name Sep 22 14:17:03 * _vicash_ laughts Sep 22 14:17:38 http://ur1.ca/fnufu Sep 22 14:18:57 <_vicash_> KotH: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas has the name Sep 22 14:19:49 _vicash_: that's a fake name he assumes for the people who need a real looking name Sep 22 14:20:31 don't think i got a big opinion of people that are so stupid to search partnership with GOOGLE = Gsoc Sep 22 14:21:03 for me Gsoc could be: GNU System on Chip Sep 22 14:21:11 well, google pays people money Sep 22 14:21:16 which gets people fed and happy Sep 22 14:21:32 i just told you i am not interested to money Sep 22 14:21:47 yes, yes, you are interested in starving freely Sep 22 14:22:00 GOOGLE gives you money, but it takes you technoly and use it for its own profit Sep 22 14:23:26 isn't GOOGLE able to develop on SoC or to develop on mobile phones without the need of people which gives his own job for that shit of android ? Sep 22 14:24:13 the same opinion i got of iOS and of iTunes, such as apple computer cupertino inc, mac os x, macintosh, ipad, iphone, ipod Sep 22 14:24:20 i guess you dont have a cell phone? Sep 22 14:24:53 the same opinion of samsung, dell, toshiba, microsoft, nec, msi, sony, sony ericsson Sep 22 14:25:18 i have not bought a mobile phone, left my mother when she dead Sep 22 14:25:21 oh.. i guess you hate your computer too, because it was made by some evil corporation, with evil closed source tools Sep 22 14:25:33 and it contains evil closed source software, called the BIOS Sep 22 14:25:42 it is a sony ericsson t303, and it's some arrived to the and of the life Sep 22 14:26:05 the next phone will be a fairphone, or NeoFreeRunner, or GTA02 or GTA04 Sep 22 14:26:13 you killed your mother for her cell phone? Sep 22 14:26:18 now, that's evil! Sep 22 14:26:26 no, my mother is dead of cancer Sep 22 14:27:16 ah.. you made it look like an illnes.. very sneaky Sep 22 14:30:14 holy cow! you found my email adress! Sep 22 14:30:18 how did you do that? Sep 22 14:31:26 a) you are on the web Sep 22 14:31:54 b) everyone can ask something to another computer Sep 22 14:32:01 and it gives you data Sep 22 14:35:36 so, what are you going to do with my email address? Sep 22 14:37:04 nothing Sep 22 14:38:25 why did you bother to look it up, then? Sep 22 14:43:53 to enjoy myself Sep 22 14:56:32 i am in virginmedia now Sep 22 15:00:07 nothing of interesting in virginmedia Sep 22 15:00:18 was better sdsc.edu Sep 22 15:12:37 hi everybody Sep 22 15:13:37 how can you start a qt app (qtdemo for ex) from freshly updated beagle black ? Sep 22 15:14:16 opkg install qt4-x11-free --force-depends ends with "QIconvCodec::convertFromUnicode: using Latin-1 for conversion, iconv_open failed" Sep 22 15:14:40 qtdemo -qws more exactly Sep 22 15:16:34 nobody ? Sep 22 15:17:11 is iconv installed? Sep 22 15:18:08 I don't think so as I don't know what it is, what package is it please? Sep 22 15:20:06 probably iconv Sep 22 15:21:05 hehe no I've tried before asking ;) Sep 22 15:21:16 Unknown package 'iconv'. Sep 22 15:23:56 libiconv? Sep 22 15:24:33 google should tell you how to look up package names :) Sep 22 15:25:21 mouha : this is the wrong place for you to learn about linux systems Sep 22 15:26:10 mouha : this is the right place for questions which you know are specific to beagle hardware, but that's mostly it.. Sep 22 15:26:33 to be honest, very few of the questions asked here are specific to any of the beagle boards Sep 22 15:26:53