**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 26 02:59:59 2013 Sep 26 03:00:18 kk then can qemu boot from img that is on hard drive of my computer?? Sep 26 03:01:46 prpplague: just built https://github.com/jadonk/buildroot. about to write it to an SD card. Sep 26 03:03:31 kk thank you Sep 26 03:04:16 jkridner: dandy, wish i had some free time to work on it Sep 26 03:04:28 jkridner: probably going to hand it off to daniel to work on Sep 26 03:05:10 I've got some other pressures pushing me to provide a more minimal flasher/extractor. Guy doing a visible project. :-/ Sep 26 03:06:12 jkridner: ahh Sep 26 03:06:31 jkridner: i'd like to use that minimal image for all the new capes Sep 26 03:07:06 jkridner: they are minimal and more targeted to the needs of a small rootfs Sep 26 03:42:03 prpplague, first we need to get them to build again Sep 26 03:42:19 ka6sox: ?? Sep 26 03:47:01 minimal builds Sep 26 03:59:49 ka6sox: the minimal builds will be using buildroot Sep 26 04:01:59 oh Sep 26 04:02:01 never mind Sep 26 04:15:29 prpplague: rootfs seems fine, but the bootloader complains about the kernel. Sep 26 04:16:50 jkridner: oh? Sep 26 04:17:18 prpplague: yeah, not sure what is up. used the config and patches from the github 3.8 kernel... Sep 26 04:17:30 but, uboot is complaining about the format, not the kernel itself anyway. Sep 26 04:17:37 something about wrong format. Sep 26 04:17:48 interesting Sep 26 04:17:55 uImage: u-boot legacy uImage, Linux-3.8.13, Linux/ARM, OS Kernel Image (Not compressed), 4371288 bytes, Thu Sep 26 03:52:03 2013, Load Address: 0x80008000, Entry Point: 0x80008000, Header CRC: 0xF1B35E68, Data CRC: 0xDC3AB1E6 Sep 26 04:41:43 does the https://github.com/beagleboard/linux.git beaglebone-3.2 branch also support beagleboneblack? Sep 26 04:42:35 not yet... Sep 26 04:42:46 I just created it to work on that very thing. Sep 26 04:42:55 per the prodding of prpplague. Sep 26 04:42:56 oh, nice. Sep 26 04:43:56 git://gitorious.org/rowboat/kernel.git branch: rowboat/rowboat-am335x-kernel-3.2 is supposed to support Black. Sep 26 04:44:13 I'm looking at diffs against that when I have a few spare seconds. Sep 26 04:44:51 right now, I'm trying to figure out a simpler approach to eMMC flashing/recovery. Sep 26 04:45:23 I have a pure-FAT solution such that you can init a card from any OS with a .zip file. Sep 26 04:46:07 Now I'm trying to figure out if I should just provide some kind of autorun.sh that is different for each of a flasher/restorer/recovery image or some way to trigger different modes live. Sep 26 05:55:14 doh. silly issue. kloadaddr vs. loadaddr Sep 26 05:57:09 jkridner: is there a script somewhere to regenerate the patches for https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8 ? I want to send a pull request Sep 26 05:58:10 ie after I run patch.sh and it assembles my git repo, how can I regenerate the patches/iio/00xx....patch files? Sep 26 05:58:20 explain. the patches are all there. if you are asking how to use 'git', that's a bit much for me to go into when I'm exhausted at 2AM. Sep 26 05:58:44 i'm well aware of how to use git, but I don't know how to tell format-patch to only apply to one subsystem Sep 26 05:58:48 git format-patch will help you create paches. Sep 26 05:59:19 just extract the patches you want to apply to the kernel and put them in the appropriate directory. Sep 26 06:50:14 moin Sep 26 07:01:32 I have built qt4e-demo for beagle bone (angstrom) and boot the bbb with it Sep 26 07:02:24 how ever using user root/ blank password did not work to log in Sep 26 07:02:50 any idea why or how to fix this ? Sep 26 07:05:09 in the procedure for building kernel for BBB in one site..I saw that ''if you have your rootfs ready, you can install them.... make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/home/cpeacock/export/rootfs modules_install "" from where to get the rootfs....?????? Sep 26 07:08:29 anyone there.... :-( Sep 26 07:18:21 how can I change the touch screen configuration of LCD4 cape? Sep 26 07:37:06 as in? Sep 26 07:46:09 how can I change the touch screen configuration of LCD4 cape? Sep 26 07:59:20 hello Sep 26 08:04:37 how to install jvm on angstrom linux in beagleboard Sep 26 08:35:19 * mranostay pokes in again Sep 26 08:53:52 hello Sep 26 08:54:32 I have a BeagleBone Black and I can't figure out how to boot from MicroSD, can anyone help me please? Sep 26 08:57:41 kostola: have you prepared a SD? Sep 26 08:58:04 blaaa: yes Sep 26 08:58:13 you need to push the button closest to the microSD-slot then Sep 26 08:58:28 during power on Sep 26 08:59:00 (µSD should be inserted of course) Sep 26 08:59:29 blaaa: ok Sep 26 09:00:04 the button is the one on the opposite side of the microsd slot I suppose Sep 26 09:00:08 yes Sep 26 09:00:14 so the correct sequence is Sep 26 09:00:24 plug microsd -> press button -> power on? Sep 26 09:00:54 yes, that's how I do it at least, maybe there are other possibilities Sep 26 09:01:11 ok Sep 26 09:01:18 how long do I have to keep the button pressed? Sep 26 09:01:22 after power on Sep 26 09:01:49 ? Sep 26 09:01:56 I keep it pressed until the LEDs next to the ethernet light up Sep 26 09:02:03 I think... Sep 26 09:03:09 what does it means if no led (except the power led) light up? Sep 26 09:05:01 Depends I suppose, but probably that its not booting from µSD Sep 26 09:05:22 What have you put on the µSD? Sep 26 09:07:01 It's a custom distro Sep 26 09:10:43 u-boot also has its own partition on the SD? Sep 26 09:11:27 yes Sep 26 09:11:43 Maybe try to boot a known image (eg angstrom) once first, so you know the procedure should work. Sep 26 09:11:48 we have a /boot partition with uEnv.txt, uImage and u-boot.img Sep 26 09:12:11 blaaa: that's a good idea, now we'll try Sep 26 09:12:19 thank you for your help Sep 26 09:13:51 and a cable for the serial console can be helpful if things are not going as expected Sep 26 09:14:10 good luck Sep 26 10:14:10 anyone hearda bout the the new beagle channel Sep 26 10:31:22 mrpackethead: huh? Sep 26 10:35:01 that other troll was talkianb out it Sep 26 11:20:27 im trying to use a newly bought cable : ftdi 3.3V ttl usb cable 6 pins, windows 7 says device is badly reponding, how to be sure cable is broken or not ? ive installed last ftdi driver, nothing improved Sep 26 11:29:56 hi! does anyone know what is wrong with the gdb-cross recipe? it does not build anything Sep 26 11:42:30 sorry, my crystal ball got stolen by Lobs, hence i can neither read your mind nor your monitor Sep 26 11:50:31 Anguel: if you mean bitbake gdb-cross gdbserver Sep 26 11:50:40 it will build a cross gdb for your host and gdbserver for your target Sep 26 11:50:48 RypRap: have you tried to use it? Sep 26 11:51:22 yes, it does not work, however if I do "bitbake gdb" it seems to build gdb + gdbserver Sep 26 11:51:46 i pluged it on laptop, with and without BBB Sep 26 11:52:48 mornign Sep 26 11:52:58 well we now have a bbbpbx Sep 26 11:54:47 ant_work: bitbake gdb-cross gdbserver --> ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'gdbserver' Sep 26 11:55:13 ant_work: so maybe "bitbake gdb" is the new way to go Sep 26 11:56:18 i got to go Sep 26 11:58:56 Anguel: yes, gdbserver is packaged by gdb Sep 26 11:59:23 Anguel: don't install gdb on target! OOM is almost guaranteed Sep 26 12:00:05 why not run gdb on target? Sep 26 12:00:22 well, I still play with 32-64 MiB RAM targets Sep 26 12:00:27 my bad Sep 26 12:00:32 even there it used to work :) Sep 26 12:01:01 serial + gdbserver is soo nice... Sep 26 12:02:09 I need to get my hands on the dsp code for thebbb Sep 26 12:02:16 where do they hide it Sep 26 12:02:50 we need access to the dsp for codec translation Sep 26 12:04:44 the bbb has no dsp Sep 26 12:04:52 too bad Sep 26 12:05:11 I thought the dsp was in the soc Sep 26 12:05:20 the BBB SoC has no DSP Sep 26 12:05:25 grrrr Sep 26 12:05:29 that sucks Sep 26 12:05:37 it has a CPU, a GPU and a PRU Sep 26 12:05:58 I would not describe a ~1GHz CPU as "suck" Sep 26 12:06:41 no the board over all is great Sep 26 12:06:50 you have nice ARM NEON extensions Sep 26 12:07:02 I just need a dsp for transcoding and freeing up the cpu Sep 26 12:07:04 why exactly do you need a DSP? Sep 26 12:07:14 transcoding what? Sep 26 12:07:20 voice codecs Sep 26 12:07:25 ah Sep 26 12:07:37 64 channels? Sep 26 12:07:44 I built the bbb into a pbx Sep 26 12:07:50 64 would be nice Sep 26 12:08:59 http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdsevm6678 Sep 26 12:09:02 8-core DSP Sep 26 12:09:03 phone>> g722 codec > pbx> > outbound trungk >codec 711u Sep 26 12:09:18 only 3 calls and the box freaks out Sep 26 12:10:34 and you have ARM optimized codecs? Sep 26 12:10:46 what codec libs are you using? Sep 26 12:11:03 he have a list of them 1 min Sep 26 12:12:25 http://pastebin.ca/2458692 Sep 26 12:12:39 all these codec are supported by the pbx software Sep 26 12:12:42 and builtin Sep 26 12:13:28 Can anyone point me to write up covering the different conditions in which Linux loads kernel modules. I wrote a virtual (not linked to any hardware) character device driver and yesterday it was being loaded automatically on boot. Now that I've added it to device tree it's not loading. I've got to have a better understanding of this if I'm going to do this kind of stuff. Sep 26 12:13:52 ant_work: so gdb-cross is not needed anymore? Sep 26 12:14:54 rneese: yes, but do they have ARM assembly Sep 26 12:15:10 running them on the DSP as just recompiled C is not going to by much faster Sep 26 12:15:30 they are all compiled on arm but I dont know if there is any arm spec code Sep 26 12:15:46 find out Sep 26 12:16:21 and it does not matter where the code is compiled Sep 26 12:16:28 it matters what code is compiled Sep 26 12:54:13 av500: compiling the code on alpha-centauri makes it definitly faster! Sep 26 12:55:58 but it's a whole light-year away Sep 26 13:01:29 just compile it while driving downhill Sep 26 13:06:29 Anguel: you will need a host gdb which understands the instructions of your target architecture Sep 26 13:06:43 Anguel: this is gdb-cross Sep 26 13:26:51 Hello, I flashed the BBB with a SD card, but now I want to remove the image from it, what I have to do to remove all from the SD card? Sep 26 13:28:29 luis__: if all is fine (and you should check) the file systems should not be mounted. you might want to call sync just to be sure Sep 26 13:28:31 did you flash the BBB or did you boot the BBB off an SD card? Sep 26 13:29:04 if the FS is mounted you first need to umount and "reflash" / do you dd again Sep 26 13:29:15 I flashed Sep 26 13:29:58 and now I want to remove the mounted image files from the SD card Sep 26 13:29:59 luis__: never mind my comments (I did not read well) Sep 26 13:30:05 the tricky part for people is usually waiting long enough for flashint to finish Sep 26 13:30:32 I recall a tool or library that created gpio interrupts by assigning the gpio pin to a keyboard key... or something. anyone know of anything like that? Sep 26 13:30:34 if you're sure that flashing is done, then just remove the card and reformat to your own liking Sep 26 13:31:36 dm8tbr: the flashed is done, the problem is that now I want to use that SD card for other things, and when I tryed to open it with windows it said that there is not space Sep 26 13:32:04 luis__: ah, then repartition it first Sep 26 13:32:38 what I have to do? Sep 26 13:33:43 open a partitioning tool. delete all partitions, create one big partition. format that partition. Sep 26 13:35:48 what can be a good patitioning tool for windows? Sep 26 13:36:09 you can partition right from file explorer Sep 26 13:36:29 rightclick on the drive, it will be in the context menu Sep 26 13:36:57 does bbb need anything special or will fat32 do? Sep 26 13:49:14 boots from FAT32 Sep 26 13:51:02 who uses FAT32 for anything ? Sep 26 13:53:10 people Sep 26 13:54:13 additional question: who deserves to die slowly and in pain ? Sep 26 13:54:37 who are we to judge? Sep 26 13:55:33 also. I'm trying to build an rpm tachometer for pc case fans. will the interrupts be fast enough? Sep 26 13:55:56 goge: is this a trick question ? Sep 26 13:56:24 which question? Sep 26 13:57:13 the one with the '?' Sep 26 13:57:28 there are now three with a '?' Sep 26 13:59:15 puhh, time for a multiple choice Sep 26 14:04:05 it could be worse, it could be: ¿ Sep 26 14:05:42 so the tach line (3rd wire) on a pc case fan sends 2 high pulses per rotation. the idea is to measure the number of pulses in 3 seconds and extrapolate the rpm from there. Sep 26 14:06:05 sounds cunning Sep 26 14:06:52 Need to share the eth0 connection on the BBB over the usb0. That is BBB needs to act as router. Using angstrom, but it seems the kernel does not support nat. What is the quickest way to fix that? Sep 26 14:08:22 I get this error: iptables v1.4.15: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) Sep 26 14:12:18 modprobe iptable-filter Sep 26 14:13:18 return nothing Sep 26 14:13:24 thanks Sep 26 14:14:26 should not return Sep 26 14:14:27 lsmod Sep 26 14:14:41 sec Sep 26 14:15:01 v1.9 Sep 26 14:15:03 v1.0 Sep 26 14:15:05 oops Sep 26 14:15:36 probably no nat support compiled in Sep 26 14:15:51 or its module not loaded Sep 26 14:15:57 so it seems from the output - "Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded." Sep 26 14:16:02 (dont ask me what it's called) Sep 26 14:16:19 or just do bridging? Sep 26 14:16:38 if that's compiled in that is... Sep 26 14:16:43 lsmod output: Module Size Used by iptable_filter 1451 0 arc4 1644 2 rt2800usb 12384 0 rt2x00usb 9375 1 rt2800usb rt2800lib 40796 1 rt2800usb rt2x00lib 34321 3 rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,rt2800usb mac80211 270414 3 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb,rt2800lib cfg80211 166418 2 mac80211,rt2x00lib ip_tables 8294 Sep 26 14:16:57 someone needs to learn about pastebin Sep 26 14:18:22 sorry, lost connection Sep 26 14:19:37 next time use pastebin please :) Sep 26 14:20:00 I don't want to bridge, because I have only one ip lease from eth0 Sep 26 14:20:54 ok, I will learn about pastebin, I am using the webpage based IRC client on the BeagleBoard site Sep 26 14:22:39 Module Size Used by iptable_filter 1451 0 arc4 1644 2 rt2800usb 12384 0 rt2x00usb 9375 1 rt2800usb rt2800lib 40796 1 rt2800usb rt2x00lib 34321 3 rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,rt2800usb mac80211 270414 3 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb,rt2800lib cfg80211 166418 2 mac80211,rt2x00lib ip_tables 8294 1 iptable_filte Sep 26 14:22:57 learning about pastebin: FAILED. Sep 26 14:23:34 Ya, so it seems Sep 26 14:23:36 Module Size Used by iptable_filter 1451 0 arc4 1644 2 rt2800usb 12384 0 rt2x00usb 9375 1 rt2800usb rt2800lib 40796 1 rt2800usb rt2x00lib 34321 3 rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,rt2800usb mac80211 270414 3 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb,rt2800lib cfg80211 166418 2 mac80211,rt2x00lib ip_tables 8294 1 iptable_filte Sep 26 14:23:43 nope, that didn't work either Sep 26 14:23:46 pastebin! Sep 26 14:23:46 GAH Sep 26 14:23:55 akey__: google "PASTEBIN" Sep 26 14:24:10 akey__: then drop your stuff there and just give us the resulting link Sep 26 14:24:27 wow what's happening here? Sep 26 14:24:59 http://pastebin.com/5mqmD2Ud Sep 26 14:26:29 it was just about the link! It gave me a new format, which I thought/hoped would become aligned here.. Sep 26 14:26:56 magically aligned ASCII Sep 26 14:27:38 something of that sort maybe :( Sep 26 14:36:07 are there any working interrupt examples for the bbb >3.8 Sep 26 14:41:49 goge: interrupts work the same on all boards Sep 26 14:42:02 goge: but they only work in the kernel. no interrupts in userspace Sep 26 14:44:07 akey__: iptable_nat is missing Sep 26 14:52:48 who needs nat anyway? Sep 26 14:58:38 Hello, just one really simple question Sep 26 14:58:52 SGX and Linux 3.8 are still unsupported? Sep 26 15:03:05 Uninstall: yep Sep 26 15:03:45 ok Sep 26 15:03:52 Uninstall: use 3.2 or wait for TI etc. to get things done Sep 26 15:03:58 Anguel: so I have to go for 3.2, right? Sep 26 15:04:00 ok, cool Sep 26 15:04:07 Anguel: from which git repo? Sep 26 15:04:28 I see there is: http://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=linux-am33x.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/v3.2-staging Sep 26 15:04:55 and git://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev.git Sep 26 15:05:25 Uninstall: you could use the TI EZSDK or an old Angstrom but I have not done it Sep 26 15:06:11 Anguel: I'm not interested on the whole SDK to be honest, I just need a kernel tree Sep 26 15:07:14 maybe the others can give you more info, i have not worked with 3.2 Sep 26 15:20:58 mru: those who do not have enough public ips Sep 26 15:21:21 ipv6/48 ain't enough? Sep 26 15:23:58 for some people, it isnt Sep 26 15:27:44 nanoseconds since the big bang: 4.339 * 10^26 Sep 26 15:27:45 ipv6 address space size: 3.403 * 10^38 Sep 26 15:28:34 written long form, the number of ipv6 addresses: 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 Sep 26 15:28:43 http://xkcd.com/865/ Sep 26 15:38:42 davr: but most people get only a /48 net Sep 26 15:55:11 mru: most people will get a /65 Sep 26 15:55:13 mru: most people will get a /64 Sep 26 15:55:23 mru: it's just the weird ones that get a /48 Sep 26 15:57:03 how boring for them Sep 26 15:57:54 some get a /56 or some other value between 64 and 48 Sep 26 15:58:20 dm8tbr: it seems that these days most people get either a /64 or a /48 Sep 26 15:58:36 dm8tbr: which are also the recommended values. i'm quite sure that this will change, especially the /48 Sep 26 15:58:43 seems to me most people still don't have ipv6 at all Sep 26 15:58:55 yeah Sep 26 15:59:24 my ISP still refuses to acknowledge, that consumers might need IPv6 Sep 26 16:01:12 dm8tbr: they don't.. carrier grade nat saves all Sep 26 16:01:38 that's only meant for the ipv4 shortage Sep 26 16:01:52 dm8tbr: same here at work Sep 26 16:02:11 well. I'll continue enjoying my 4 native IPv4 addresses and a short tunnel to a ipv6 pop Sep 26 16:02:32 how did you get stuck with only 4? Sep 26 16:02:57 dm8tbr: last time i asked them about ther ipv6 plans (about a month before RIPE ran out of ipv4) their answer was "we dont have any plans. there is no demand from our customers for ipv6" Sep 26 16:03:06 ipv6 is a passing fad Sep 26 16:03:14 i'll sit it out Sep 26 16:03:34 av500: you've watched too much serial experiments lain, you should cut down a little bit on your anime consumption Sep 26 16:03:48 dm8tbr: and 4to6 proxies for the edge when there is content on ipv6 that is not on ipv4.. no need for that yet.. the cdn's are still out there on ipv4 with limited ipv6 etc Sep 26 16:03:51 no need for consumers to have ipv6 Sep 26 16:04:10 (i do NOT agree with what I am spitting out, btw, but it is the marketting answer) Sep 26 16:04:10 KotH: noe at all Sep 26 16:04:12 none Sep 26 16:04:21 just use port numbers Sep 26 16:04:25 32+16 = 48 Sep 26 16:04:34 solved, next Sep 26 16:10:52 * joel_ hugs git-notes Sep 26 16:13:16 useful when you want to add patch review change logs for git-format-patch but don't want to mess with the commit message Sep 26 16:54:21 It is not cleat to me where I can get Linux 3.2 for Beagle Bone Black Sep 26 16:58:45 Uninstall: because there is no official release of 3.2 for the beaglebone black Sep 26 16:59:46 Uninstall: http://linuxgizmos.com/introducing-the-new-beaglebone-black-kernel/ Sep 26 17:05:09 prpplague: 3.8 kernel doesn't work with SGX as I see Sep 26 17:06:29 Uninstall: correct, SGX is not something we push for the beaglebone products Sep 26 17:06:50 prpplague: so there is no EGLFS or accelerated X support, right? Sep 26 17:08:03 correct Sep 26 17:08:21 so what is the purpose of HDMI output if there is not accelerated video support? Sep 26 17:08:43 you can use it for a text console Sep 26 17:08:50 on your 50" TV Sep 26 17:08:54 IMHO HDMI is the actual standard of a video output Sep 26 17:08:55 is there any chance to boot the BBB with 3.2? Sep 26 17:10:15 Uninstall: HDMI output is simply that HDMI output. not sure how people get this idea that if it doesn't have accelerated video support that it isn't usable..... Sep 26 17:10:44 Uninstall: there are some patchsets floating around, but they aren't supported and incorrectly applied they can damage your board Sep 26 17:11:06 ok Sep 26 17:11:08 thank you Sep 26 17:11:15 it's good for UIs, but no 3d or video playback i guess? Sep 26 17:11:31 prpplague: for me wayland is a requirement, and wayland requires some minimal GL support Sep 26 17:11:52 Uninstall: then i'd say move on to something else Sep 26 17:11:54 well Qt5 QtQuick 2 requires OpenGL ;) Sep 26 17:12:13 might try raspberry pi (more cheap) or odroid (more powerful) Sep 26 17:12:24 ok Sep 26 17:16:13 anyone know of any working interrupt examples for > 3.8 ? Sep 26 17:17:52 prpplague: so Beagle Board would be OK for OpenGL, right? Sep 26 17:22:41 Uninstall: i'd suggest you look at using some other platform - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/bPrO73EbNSo Sep 26 17:26:59 prpplague: Shall I make image saving/recovery a subsection of http://elinux.org/BeagleBoneBuildroot ? Sep 26 17:27:23 I need to get it in upstream Buildroot, but I don't think that'll be much of an issue. Sep 26 17:28:30 evening! Sep 26 17:28:53 hi KotH Sep 26 17:32:36 anyone know how to make chanserv assign you op on entering the room? Sep 26 17:35:15 you set the flag for the person to +0 Sep 26 17:35:16 jkridner: what was the interrupt library that bonescript was going to switch to? Sep 26 17:35:22 er +O Sep 26 17:35:37 goge: not a library, kernel driver: gpio-keys. Sep 26 17:35:59 normally a good set of flags is +VotrA Sep 26 17:37:23 thank you! I couldn't remember for the life of me. How's bonescript going? Sep 26 17:38:06 distracted with Buildroot today and have a big trip to Rome on Tuesday. Sep 26 17:38:21 need to push some bone101 improvements from Maker Faire to the public repo. Sep 26 17:38:50 need to get the PWM dt template done before starting the gpio-keys dt template. Sep 26 17:39:06 also need to add an unload feature for the pinmux helper dt. Sep 26 17:39:27 : ) lots on the todo list Sep 26 17:39:38 is Rome business or pleasure? Sep 26 17:40:02 or spiritual? new Pope and what what. Sep 26 17:41:50 in here, we only believe in the Delicious Chocolate Troll Sep 26 17:41:56 jkridner: no, make it a how to page, that way it can be linked from other pages without getting the confusion of it being part of a buildroot process Sep 26 17:43:53 prpplague: k Sep 26 17:43:58 prpplague: any suggestion on name? Sep 26 17:44:32 Rome is business, but all my business is pleasure (ish). Maker Faire Rome! Sep 26 17:46:20 jkridner: http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Extracting_eMMC_contents Sep 26 17:46:32 jkridner: you can start there Sep 26 17:46:50 jkridner: we need a new catagory group "BeagleBoneBlack_HowTo" Sep 26 17:47:13 I'll add it to that category. Sep 26 17:59:44 [10:23] Uninstall: i'd suggest you look at using some other platform - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/bPrO73EbNSo <-- atleast for now Sep 26 18:00:21 prpplague, would you happen to know if there is any work being done on the drivers ? DRM / SGX ? Sep 26 18:04:55 prpplague: http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Extracting_eMMC_contents ? Sep 26 18:06:07 gah, that troll from North CA got me Sep 26 18:14:13 m_billybob: all work on SGX has come to a halt Sep 26 18:14:35 jkridner: looks dandy Sep 26 18:14:52 cool. very easy to rebuild and use. Sep 26 18:42:48 hi Sep 26 18:53:32 does the angstrom dhcp client not do DNS? Sep 26 19:00:25 it shoudl Sep 26 19:12:03 "do dns" in what way? Sep 26 19:26:12 i have to add mine to resolv.conf for some reason Sep 26 19:56:38 vxe: Hi buddy !!! Sep 26 19:57:19 good news ! worked !! but have to do some changes... Sep 26 19:59:03 stroker_mata: excellent! what did you change? Sep 26 20:01:03 should the bbblack work with a multiplatform kernel with 3.12-rc2 ? Sep 26 20:01:23 My first eeprom was burned... so I buy another today, and I put selectable jumper on adress bus, and conclude that A2 pin is pull down... Sep 26 20:02:44 The rest was fun.. I was seleting all 8 adress and use i2cdetect to see the eeprom "jumping" on the adresses :) Sep 26 20:03:14 ahh, excellent Sep 26 20:03:20 glad to hear it works Sep 26 20:04:06 hello Sep 26 20:04:51 can i connect bnc analog camera to this device? Sep 26 20:05:06 I buy an PCF8574p too, but now I need to focus on learn more about the capes, and I need a way to put real time on this cape, I buy the DS1307 Sep 26 20:06:11 I've got some of those DS1307 that I haven't used for anything yet Sep 26 20:06:55 stroker_mata: what for do you need an rtc? Sep 26 20:07:06 stroker_mata: do you need to be able to keep time even if powered down? Sep 26 20:07:34 These guys need a bus tranceiver, I have the 245 from ON SSOP I solder to an adapter board.. Sep 26 20:08:37 KotH: Yes... I need log time, and sometimes the ethernet could be off... I will still need to log the time... Sep 26 20:08:49 so ka... Sep 26 20:13:24 KotH: ? Sep 26 20:13:43 i configured for automatical ntp updates.... but if no network, no update of 2000-01-01 birth of universe Sep 26 20:13:54 stroker_mata: just "ah.. ok" in a language you are not used to :) Sep 26 20:14:28 a swapping language ? Sep 26 20:15:10 KotH: yep.. I am old man... But in Skype era.... :) Sep 26 20:15:59 stroker_mata: even more in skype era. finally you can talk to people who have never met a white man before :) Sep 26 20:16:48 RypRap: Maybe I could use your routine to update my clock once I month... Sep 26 20:17:30 Is there a reason I'm missing why my BBB doesn't get internet conenctivitty when plugged in/powered via USB to my laptop? Sep 26 20:17:43 stroker_mata: if you dont have a the problem to have correct time at startup, then you can discipline the system clock using ntp Sep 26 20:17:47 stroker_mata: i followed a web tutorial, but bbb loose date if powered off Sep 26 20:18:09 RypRap: that's because it doesnt have a batter backed rtc Sep 26 20:18:26 KyleYankan: probably Sep 26 20:18:37 ok, wanted to make sure I wasn't an idiot Sep 26 20:18:39 KyleYankan: have you logged in using a serial console and checked the network settings Sep 26 20:18:40 I am an 8bit/asm guy for long, but noy I was pushed to this Linux Brave ""new" world.. and liking :) Sep 26 20:19:03 KotH: Nope, no FTDI adapters available A/T/T Sep 26 20:19:09 KotH: I can ssh in via 192.168.7.2 Sep 26 20:19:11 stroker_mata: welcome and please brace for impact, you will have a rough ride ;) Sep 26 20:19:17 but once on the pi, no connectivity out to say, google.com Sep 26 20:19:20 KotH: it could have a saved time to reload at boot time, its always better than reset to 0.. Sep 26 20:19:26 oh.. I said pi... I meant... bbb. Sep 26 20:19:30 * KyleYankan hides Sep 26 20:19:38 RypRap: you can do that if you want. it's easy to implement Sep 26 20:19:48 KotH: KyleYankan : The 335XX has an RTC inside, I don`t know the reason was not used... Sep 26 20:19:53 KyleYankan: well, if you can ssh, then you have network, havnet you? Sep 26 20:20:16 KotH: local connectibity, not external Sep 26 20:20:17 stroker_mata: not enough space and too expensive to put additional components there Sep 26 20:20:37 stroker_mata: though wiring the pins out somewhere would have been a good idea Sep 26 20:20:39 KotH: already having... Sep 26 20:21:04 Yes... the BBB price targeted... Sep 26 20:21:22 KyleYankan: ah, you mean your bbb cannot connect to the internet? that's because your computer doesnt route it Sep 26 20:21:40 I see. Good point. Thanks Sep 26 20:21:48 KotH: id like too, but it would take me time for a functionnaly missing by design... Sep 26 20:21:58 RypRap: Could you show the link for the tuto ? about ntp ? thanks.. Sep 26 20:23:06 stroker_mata: you might want to get a good book on linux administration Sep 26 20:23:07 stroker_mata: i can look at it, so ill save it for myself for later Sep 26 20:23:29 stroker_mata: UNIX and Linux System Administration Handbook seems to be a good one Sep 26 20:23:53 stroker_mata: http://www.admin.com/ Sep 26 20:29:44 Oppssss.... power surge.. Sep 26 20:30:14 uSD card for beagle bone black need to be in which format ? ntfs, fat or fat32 ? Sep 26 20:31:51 like I was typing.. to me is more important SHEll command base than admin.. Sep 26 20:32:12 stroker_mata_m: http://derekmolloy.ie/automatically-setting-the-beaglebone-black-time-using-ntp/ Sep 26 20:33:13 uh, no wasnt that tuto Sep 26 20:33:30 RypRap: good! I saw a video on youtube.. Sep 26 20:33:53 uSD card for beagle bone black need to be in which format ? ntfs, fat or fat32 Sep 26 20:34:43 RypRap: good anyway ! Sep 26 20:35:01 RypRap: no, that was the one i used Sep 26 20:35:31 stroker_mata_m: no, that was the one i used, + other ntp servers Sep 26 20:36:53 anyone using ftid ttl usb adaptor 3.3V ? Sep 26 20:37:10 RypRap: no problem... by now I need to learn how to transfer the data on the RTC to the system... then the next step is foward... Sep 26 20:37:22 on windows 7 Sep 26 20:38:18 mru: i hooked a black up to my MacBookPro via ethernet, turned "internet" sharing on, booted the beagle from power (iow, no usb for any of this), it got an ip address from the mbp, but couldn't ping anything. /etc/resolv.conf only only has 127.0.0.1 in it. had to change it to 8.8.4.4 to resolve names Sep 26 20:38:27 (sorry for the belated response) Sep 26 20:39:33 i hoped/expected that when it got it's ip address from dhcp, it would have got dns from there as well, might be something on the mbp side, but that that's worked in the past with other sbc's Sep 26 20:43:05 travisgriggs: 127.0.0.1 is not from dhcp Sep 26 20:44:02 obviously, so i figured maybe the dhcp client didn't do anything for dns, or maybe it leaves the /etc/resolv.conf alone and manages something somewhere else? Sep 26 20:44:29 thus my question :) Sep 26 20:44:44 probably connman Sep 26 23:20:29 travisgriggs: dhcp in linux is dissociated from the dns, in fact they arent related: the dns is network independent, and dislike in window there is no set in the resolv.conf, otherwise you need to find a dhcp client that do that job, reading from dhcp packets the right parameter passed from the server cause is possible ofc set up the ip from there also but the client must be enable to... Sep 26 23:20:30 ...receive that info Sep 26 23:22:25 bye Sep 26 23:22:47 Im tired, i go to sleep Sep 26 23:22:59 here is 1.22 o.O Sep 26 23:35:06 i bricked my BBB :( Sep 26 23:37:33 so i need to redo an image. i'm confused by the instructions here http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ Sep 26 23:38:05 can i get a BBB up and working with just the Angstrom-systemd-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.09.12.rootfs.tar.xz ? Or do I need to use the 3.9G Cloud9 thing Sep 26 23:38:33 the "how to prepare the card" are geared towards the ing based cloud9 thing Sep 26 23:53:50 travisgriggs dont worry.. have an SD ? Sep 26 23:54:09 i have an sd card... Sep 26 23:54:31 not one with a distro on it... Sep 26 23:54:39 just a second Sep 26 23:56:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6b4zlh0IrE&list=PLF4A1A7E09E5E260A&index=1 Sep 26 23:56:25 in the 04:31 Sep 26 23:56:57 But go to geagleboard.org and download the latest version for your BBB Sep 26 23:57:36 format the SD as show on the vid then hold the boot button close the P89 header Sep 26 23:57:54 ok, i'll give it a try. thx! Sep 26 23:58:07 And you see your board live again... Sep 26 23:58:47 The only thing you need to get in mind, never touch the u-boot without knowing :) Sep 26 23:59:37 travisgriggs.. I will be here.. Sep 27 00:14:09 uboot seems to be rejecting my initrds ... Sep 27 00:14:32 Wrong Ramdisk Image Format Sep 27 00:14:37 anyone seen that before? Sep 27 00:23:26 tried using bootz as well as bootm + mkimage wrapped kernel+initrd ... no dice. Sep 27 00:42:55 I having problem with dmesg===> gadget: rndis regal1.01 v0000 i0000 consuming the log Sep 27 00:43:14 anyone having the same problem ?? Sep 27 01:00:41 stroker_mata_m.. solved.. Sep 27 01:00:42 and uncomment (remove the #) and edit the following lines Sep 27 01:00:43 MaxLevelStore=info Sep 27 01:00:43 MaxLevelSyslog=notice Sep 27 01:01:05 then reboot :D Sep 27 01:12:35 YAY we have OPs Sep 27 01:43:58 my beaglebone project just got bought Sep 27 01:44:16 oh? Sep 27 01:45:39 yea, i was creating a display program for statistics Sep 27 01:45:48 oh Link to more info? Sep 27 01:45:53 I'm actually quite interested Sep 27 01:46:05 well its a private project no links on it Sep 27 01:46:09 but ill tell you a little Sep 27 01:46:15 sure Sep 27 01:46:21 What kind of data / statistics? Sep 27 01:46:55 well my family member who has a sandwitch shop Sep 27 01:47:24 he see my beaglebone on my second monitor display build info for my kernel Sep 27 01:47:40 he wanted it for his shop to display menu prices Sep 27 01:48:42 .. he said OOO live updates and was staring at it for like 1 hour **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 27 02:59:58 2013