**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 01 02:59:58 2013 Oct 01 03:00:23 Does anyone know whether setting up the mmc card with 255 heads, 63 sectors/track is still necessary? Oct 01 03:00:24 behanw: you have used up all your question cards at Linuxcon ..... Oct 01 03:00:36 prpplague, I'm a slow typer. :P Oct 01 03:00:42 Okay not really. Oct 01 03:00:47 I was checking my notes. Oct 01 03:01:48 bmatusiak after running the apps that I had no audio on as root, audio came out. I still get that error, but it works. Oct 01 03:02:22 lol thats wierd Oct 01 03:03:18 swilshy, i noticed that hdmi will turn off after 30 mintis inactivity Oct 01 03:04:50 hmm, well that's not good, haha. Maybe something they will consider looking into in BBB 2.0 Oct 01 03:05:03 na it software related Oct 01 03:05:41 in "sudo vim /etc/kbd/config" change POWERDOWN_TIME to 0 Oct 01 03:06:01 i think this is going to fix that Oct 01 03:06:05 * bmatusiak_ testing that Oct 01 03:06:34 ok, ill make that edit then Oct 01 03:10:14 Does anyone know whether setting up the mmc card for BB or BBB with 255 heads, 63 sectors/track is still necessary? Oct 01 03:11:10 not sure.. you could test if you really don't want to do it that way Oct 01 03:11:12 behanw: basically the eMMC is the same as a standard sd in most respects. i always assume that i need to use the same combination Oct 01 03:11:29 behanw: but to be honest i don't know if that is required any miore Oct 01 03:11:39 behanw: i can get an answer for you tomorrow Oct 01 03:12:30 you want audio as a normal user? Oct 01 03:12:42 o wait Oct 01 03:12:50 i was scrollled Oct 01 03:15:25 prpplague, I've always changed the SD geometry, but I know lots of people who don't Oct 01 03:28:23 honestly, so any thing good happen - other than beer ? Oct 01 03:28:55 * spikebike builds a BBB parts list to control a garage door Oct 01 03:37:05 Dont most garage doors only use RF? Oct 01 03:37:16 Seems like that'd be pretty straight forward Oct 01 03:37:50 what about the doorbell/switch ^_^ Oct 01 03:38:05 some of thoes are wired Oct 01 03:38:12 heh, was planning on using BBB to short the door open/close button Oct 01 03:38:24 and using an app on my phone to securely trigger the BBB Oct 01 03:39:02 spikebike, you need to add a hd camera in the yard to check lincense plates.. to auto open then door :P Oct 01 03:39:21 heh, I bike much more than I drive Oct 01 03:39:42 but some kind of bluetooth/wifi proximity might owrk Oct 01 03:39:45 bluetooth proximity ^_^ Oct 01 03:40:11 I find with bluetooth as long as I can programatically challenge a private key of some time Oct 01 03:40:19 I find with bluetooth as long as I can programatically challenge a private key of some type Oct 01 03:40:25 drat Oct 01 03:40:31 I fine with bluetooth as long as I can programatically challenge a private key of some type Oct 01 03:40:59 lol Oct 01 03:42:25 was thinking of two of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009SUF08 Oct 01 03:43:20 and one of these: http://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-4-Channel-Relay-Module-Arduino/dp/B0057OC5O8 Oct 01 03:43:32 i wana build few quadCopters and use bbb as the mother-base for controlling them... Oct 01 03:43:55 bmatusiak_: controlling at what level? Oct 01 03:44:34 as in telling them where to go Oct 01 03:45:07 ah, way points and the like? Oct 01 03:45:17 well way points are pre defined Oct 01 03:45:54 i wana get a way of predefined to a state of AI Oct 01 03:46:20 like making them fly in a V formation Oct 01 03:47:16 and stuff like taking turns VS batter life Oct 01 03:48:20 turns .. as in take a beak and charge, and let next copter continue the mission Oct 01 03:48:22 do you have teh quads? Oct 01 03:48:38 na im about to invest once i get some cash Oct 01 03:48:39 seems better to put that stuff on board so you aren't limited by quad <-> base range Oct 01 03:49:10 it's becoming common for quads to have a linux cpu for high level stuff, and a real time CPU for handling the feedback loop/motor control Oct 01 03:49:25 well this of this.. 1 quad only knows of its self.. Oct 01 03:49:32 i want them to be ware of each other Oct 01 03:49:36 sure Oct 01 03:49:46 linux is good at networks ;-) Oct 01 03:50:01 yea Oct 01 03:50:09 could use bt or wifi Oct 01 03:50:22 na theres a better way then bt or wifi... Oct 01 03:50:23 and then nodes could join/leave formation as needed Oct 01 03:50:31 thers a RF adapter for up to mile range Oct 01 03:50:35 zigbee Oct 01 03:50:42 theres a better 1 Oct 01 03:50:43 well why would you need mile range? Oct 01 03:50:59 quads only need to talk to quads they are close to presumably? Oct 01 03:51:22 i live on a 1/4 mile road with about 15 akers Oct 01 03:51:24 and 1 mile is typically line of sight only Oct 01 03:51:27 akers? Oct 01 03:51:45 acre * Oct 01 03:52:20 I'd rather have smart quads that only need to check in occasionally then have 1 second of connectivity failing causing a crash Oct 01 03:52:45 well yea Oct 01 03:53:51 the quads i was lookin at was from http://3drobotics.com/ Oct 01 03:54:14 they can fly by them self Oct 01 03:54:25 but only on waypoints Oct 01 03:55:22 use the same technique, but ask "mother-ship" for 1 wp at a time.. or if no connectivity contine to pre-defined Oct 01 03:55:26 ya, gps, 6d accel, waypoints, and the like are common Oct 01 03:55:56 I also like the idea of store and forward messages for high level stuff Oct 01 03:56:05 so additional units can increase your range Oct 01 03:56:16 ahh good idea Oct 01 03:56:38 you know what Oct 01 03:56:56 you just described independence day Oct 01 03:57:05 ? Oct 01 03:57:23 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/ Oct 01 03:57:43 if that was UCD we'd be waiting for the stupid warn system Oct 01 03:58:15 in independence day, the aliens used satellites to extend there range Oct 01 03:59:02 heh, saw it, didn't remember that part Oct 01 03:59:37 but yeah it would be kinda cool if you have a formation that's collecting data to be able to send the data back with whoever needs a recharge, then send new commands out with whoever is next to join the formation Oct 01 04:00:28 fortunately quads are moving from arduinos that are only smart enough to do table lookups to the cortex m4f which is actually fast enough to model what is going on Oct 01 04:01:53 down with america! Oct 01 04:02:26 ah, ya, the 3drobotics uses the mentioned cortex m4f Oct 01 04:08:13 yea the 3d quads are tempting Oct 01 04:08:38 ya, the 3DR Iris looks kinda tempting Oct 01 04:09:01 no, shes sexy Oct 01 04:09:09 I'd want some kind of camera though, carrying a Hero3 seems insane Oct 01 04:10:35 Hmm, magnetic switches, 4 channel relay, BBB, power supply, wifi adapter, hrm, what else Oct 01 04:10:38 oh a soldering iron Oct 01 04:11:06 the gopro has vibration feedback resistance Oct 01 04:17:41 ya, it's big and heavy as well Oct 01 04:17:47 not particularly aerodynamic either Oct 01 04:26:17 andaaawethe rabbit logs are saying it's a credentials problem Oct 01 04:26:47 you have a remote controlled rabbit? ;-) Oct 01 04:31:04 asdfasdfasdfsafd Oct 01 04:31:23 hrm, hopefully this works, the sainsmart seems to be out of stock Oct 01 04:31:26 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F2Z72L8 Oct 01 04:32:35 why I2C1 (PIN 17 and PIN 18) is not enabled by default in BBB ? Oct 01 04:35:46 wwwaittthththat doesnt' surprise me Oct 01 04:35:47 :) Oct 01 04:42:02 * spikebike looks for a good buzzer Oct 01 04:56:32 why I2C1 (PIN 17 and PIN 18) is not enabled by default in BBB ? Oct 01 04:57:54 nfi Oct 01 05:52:44 prpplague, still awake? Oct 01 06:00:41 Hi Guys!, I Wanna build gstreamer1.0 for my beagleboneblack, but there is no recepie in openembedded-core/meta/recepies-multimedia for gstreamer1.0, the latest openembedded core has them, do i just import them here? Oct 01 06:02:39 the setup-scripts dosn't get the latest packages :? Oct 01 06:06:58 opkg update? Oct 01 06:14:19 is there a package in angstrom for doing file event polling? eg inotifywait in ubuntu Oct 01 06:32:12 nvm, found inotify tools on github, https://github.com/rvoicilas/inotify-tools , compiles and installs out of the box on angstrom Oct 01 06:38:24 hrmpf Oct 01 06:38:38 anyone have a good example of driving a few relays? Oct 01 06:41:05 apparently the relay I wanted to use requires 15-20ma drive current, and the BBB (at least according to a video I'm watching) should only use 4-6ma Oct 01 06:48:59 http://t.co/COHq3phXp9 up at 2:45am with my bbb Oct 01 06:51:05 Hi anyone there. Oct 01 06:51:14 nope Oct 01 06:51:27 can say that i am Oct 01 06:51:38 about to passout after a game of cs:go Oct 01 06:52:21 spikebike: do you know what a transistor is? Oct 01 06:52:52 generally yes. Oct 01 06:52:59 i follow this web site to build kernel :http://wiki.beyondlogic.org/index.php/BeagleBoneBlack_Building_Kernel but when boot i got error msg:VFS: cannot open root device or unknown block (0,0) any one know how to solve this problem? Oct 01 06:53:53 spikebike: well you can build a relay driver using one.. use low current from BBB to control the transistor which can drive far greater current to the relay Oct 01 06:54:05 spikebike: google: uln2003 Oct 01 06:54:51 originally Iw as looking at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F2Z72L8 to control a fan that needs several amps Oct 01 06:56:01 but looks like it's too much to drive with a gpio, now looking at Oct 01 06:56:05 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10403 Oct 01 06:56:11 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11042 Oct 01 06:56:45 shall i repeat? "google: uln2003" Oct 01 06:56:56 yeah doing that now Oct 01 07:07:46 LetoThe2nd: so gpio -> uln2003 -> relay? Oct 01 07:09:57 spikebike: yes. Oct 01 07:17:45 http://cymplecy.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/scratchgpio2-using-motors/ Oct 01 07:17:55 that looks pretty reasonable Oct 01 07:18:30 a 3500 year old sandworm to do so, it must be reasonable by definition. Oct 01 07:18:56 so my plan is some 1-wire temp sensors to GPIO, then a ULN2003 -> 3 channel relay -> 2 fans and one low voltage trigger for a garage door opener Oct 01 07:19:07 oh and GPIO -> magentic switch Oct 01 07:19:42 magestic switches ? Oct 01 07:20:06 they switch flamboyantly ? Oct 01 07:21:59 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009SUF08 Oct 01 07:22:03 what would you call em? Oct 01 07:22:36 oh, heh, I typoed Oct 01 07:31:13 what the magentic switch for? Oct 01 07:31:23 LetoThe2nd: see any reson to not buy this http://www.amazon.com/SunFouder-ULN2003-Stepper-Mega2560-Duemilanove/dp/B00E19RGOO, hook it up to 5 GPIO pins, then 4 of the outputs to http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F2Z72L8 Oct 01 07:31:34 bmatusiak_: sensing the state of a garage door Oct 01 07:32:02 spikebike: sounds not too wrong at least for a first guess. Oct 01 07:32:45 what about the laser switch for door collision Oct 01 07:32:48 ? Oct 01 07:33:57 general idea is temp sensors for inside, outside, and attic. Relay for buzzer, garage door switch, and 2 fans. Magnetic switch for full open/fully close. Oct 01 07:34:54 bmatusiak_: I'm open, but since the chance in state takes seconds, and it could stop part way up/down for various reasons I want to be able to tell where it is. Oct 01 07:35:11 and ring a buzzer if it's open too long Oct 01 07:36:37 no i ment the laserr switch to check if somthing is in the way of the door Oct 01 07:37:29 could be nice to take a picture if someone walks in your garage Oct 01 07:37:34 oh, door already has both a pressure sensor and a line of sight sensor. Oct 01 07:38:36 ah, yeah, not sure how hard it would be to tap into the existing sensor, guess I could use an A->D Oct 01 07:38:52 then again it would suck if I mess it up and the door closes on someone/something Oct 01 07:39:26 my current plan is just to replace my current switch (which shorts a low voltage line to trigger open/close) with a BBB controlled relay Oct 01 07:40:18 you could use a current sensor to check if current is being sent from sensor Oct 01 07:40:26 http://www.adafruit.com/products/904 Oct 01 07:44:13 Hmm, possible, although I think if the door isn't closed like I expect I should just take a picture Oct 01 08:10:36 gm Oct 01 08:26:02 good morning Oct 01 08:28:27 I have a beaglebone Oct 01 08:28:36 Ive tried I really have Oct 01 08:28:48 tried debian wheezy Oct 01 08:28:57 tried ubuntu 13.04 Oct 01 08:29:10 now trying ubuntu 12.04.2 Oct 01 08:29:36 what works on my desktop 12.04 doesnt work in the bone Oct 01 08:29:45 er Oct 01 08:29:49 like, running x86 binaries? ;) Oct 01 08:29:53 *g* Oct 01 08:29:58 heh, was going to mention that ;-) Oct 01 08:29:59 nope Oct 01 08:30:24 the problem concerns usb Oct 01 08:30:36 ah, musb woes! Oct 01 08:30:45 a standard kayboard picks up the generic driver on the bone and works Oct 01 08:30:50 * LetoThe2nd slithers off Oct 01 08:30:59 the mouse doesnt work Oct 01 08:31:31 now i have one of these maplin thingys that stops short at making tea Oct 01 08:31:37 that works on desktop Oct 01 08:31:44 not at all on the bone Oct 01 08:32:24 aside from building my own kernel and driver does anyone have any ideas? Oct 01 08:32:55 because i suspect thats what Im going to end up doing Oct 01 08:33:25 and this is the first time in here Oct 01 08:34:15 aaahhhh silence, wonderful Oct 01 08:35:35 hm I did not know bone promised to support a mice Oct 01 08:35:36 like i said, musb woes. i can't tell anything about that's going to be helpful. Oct 01 08:36:01 the bone didnt promise anything Oct 01 08:36:22 and why do you need a mice on it? Oct 01 08:37:19 mainly to nibble at the edge of the screen, seriously though because at this moment I cant afford a touch screen Oct 01 08:37:42 well i could give up eating for a couple of weeks Oct 01 08:38:11 ah okay Oct 01 08:38:35 Mikejen: beware, the touchscreens don't work with latest Angstrom Oct 01 08:39:30 aaahhh well when if ever the gods look kindly down on me and let me buy a touchscreen I will be cery careful Oct 01 08:39:50 in the meantime Im playing and the toys broke Oct 01 08:40:21 frustrating but keeps the grey matter from being idle Oct 01 08:40:40 im retired and dont have much money Oct 01 08:42:06 dmesg shows that some steps didnt happen on the bone that do on the desktop[ Oct 01 08:42:24 m_billybob: nothing as good as a ladyfriend Oct 01 08:43:28 Mikejen hm try a powered hub and do you see the usb devices with lusb? Oct 01 08:43:31 and you know its like fishing, you know the fish is in their somewhere but why is it you can never find where Oct 01 08:43:48 got a powered hub, doesnt recognise that either Oct 01 08:43:56 Mikejen problem is debian/ubuntu not always support latest kernel Oct 01 08:44:19 Mikejen you could give angstroem a try Oct 01 08:44:27 and its clearly a kernel problem Oct 01 08:44:36 yep i can and that was my next step Oct 01 08:44:39 yes it is Oct 01 08:45:10 all these that i have tried use the same kernel Oct 01 08:45:58 the only real advantage of writing a driver is that i get to say what functionality gets going Oct 01 08:46:29 but its 7 or 8 years since i built a kernel Oct 01 08:48:03 hm the driver is there Oct 01 08:48:36 but either the quality is not good or the hw has to many quirks Oct 01 08:49:14 Mikejen when you knew the problem is the kernel why did tried all 3 debian/ubuntu version? Oct 01 08:52:54 try arch next! Oct 01 08:53:35 Vaizki with the same kernel? Oct 01 08:54:09 :D Oct 01 08:54:23 linux-am33x-3.12.0-1 Oct 01 08:54:28 that's what arch gives me Oct 01 08:56:31 Vaizki hm looks good I guess Oct 01 09:01:02 to prove to myself it was the kernel Oct 01 09:01:43 so arch doesnt use the same kernel, interesting Oct 01 09:05:22 the generic driver is there and with a usb kbrd plugged in the port that works, can see in dmesg that its used by the kbrd Oct 01 09:05:52 on my desktop i can see the maplin thingy also uses the generic driver Oct 01 09:06:39 Mikejen: with trying different debian and ubutu releases you just have proved that the problem is something common to them Oct 01 09:06:48 yep Oct 01 09:06:54 Mikejen: it is not necessarily the kernel, it could be the buildenvironment as well Oct 01 09:07:05 so will go on to try angstrom and maybe arch too Oct 01 09:07:28 well its in the build of the kernel, something is missing Oct 01 09:07:31 use buildroot Oct 01 09:07:32 arch is not so easy to bootstrap though Oct 01 09:07:39 there you can change each component individually Oct 01 09:07:43 but not too hard either Oct 01 09:07:58 never used it will learn something Oct 01 09:08:18 now theres a psitive statement Oct 01 09:08:53 https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/blob/master/core/linux-am33x/config Oct 01 09:09:04 there is the kernel config for the stock arch kernel Oct 01 09:09:31 to save you the trouble of installing arch just to see what's in it ;) Oct 01 09:12:15 but looking at https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/blob/master/core/linux-am33x/PKGBUILD you can see that it actually pulls Robert Nelson's patch set for debian arm kernel :) Oct 01 09:13:57 Im not sure what the patch covers, will have to look Oct 01 09:14:28 i think in the end the little maplin thingy needs its own chauffer Oct 01 09:16:54 which 'could' be modprobed in Oct 01 09:21:50 i remember thinking about arch a few years ago but couldnt figure at the time how to get it installed side by side with ubuntu. since my music stuff is all in ubuntu im reluctant to do much that threatens that Oct 01 09:22:14 i think at the time it was to do with drive formats Oct 01 09:26:58 well now im breakfasted and taken the little tablets time to go play Oct 01 09:27:08 see yall later Oct 01 11:58:11 hi.. Oct 01 11:59:39 CAn anyone help me with sample C++ code for UART beaglebone Oct 01 12:00:17 open, read, write, close. Oct 01 12:00:22 all in manpages. Oct 01 12:00:55 for things more complex: read up on termios. Oct 01 12:01:12 or use $LIBRARY, like boost asio Oct 01 12:07:35 hm uart with c++ is the new opencv Oct 01 12:07:48 boost has some abstraction Oct 01 12:07:57 uh huh? Oct 01 12:08:09 read() and write() not abstract enough? Oct 01 12:08:18 oh right, those actually _do_ something Oct 01 12:08:27 hehe Oct 01 12:08:33 it's not abstracted if you don't go through at least 8 layers that don't do anything first Oct 01 12:15:08 Getting all the correct parameters to tcsetattr is a bit of a pain in the arse the first time you do it. Once you've got that nailed down read() write() are fine. Oct 01 12:15:41 and getting the same parameters right through a more "abstract" interface is easier? Oct 01 12:21:47 Hi Im having trouble with angstrom image and installing specific python packages. Can someone help? Oct 01 12:22:41 try calling a snake charmer Oct 01 12:23:11 a fakir in midevial constantinopol would also work Oct 01 12:23:29 georgem: yes, reading manpages is hard Oct 01 12:23:38 georgem: understanding them is even harder Oct 01 12:25:19 <_av500_> boggle: yes, if you give more details Oct 01 12:25:24 <_av500_> opkg update Oct 01 12:25:24 <_av500_> opkg list Oct 01 12:26:25 Hi av500, I want to install an application called pronterface. In the help the packages are listed as debian. I am having trouble finding the opkgs related Oct 01 12:27:16 <_av500_> there might not be Oct 01 12:27:16 hereby the packages Oct 01 12:27:18 python-serial python-wxgtk2.8 python-pyglet python-tornado python-setuptools python-libxml2 python-go Oct 01 12:27:25 <_av500_> angstrom does not have "all the packages" Oct 01 12:27:44 The opkg python does not have everything Oct 01 12:27:54 yes. but how to proceed Oct 01 12:28:21 <_av500_> find out that you need Oct 01 12:28:45 i have read a post to convert deb -> opkg using archive but didnt work Oct 01 12:29:40 well first python serial is what i need ;-) Oct 01 12:30:24 but i dont know enough of python. Maybe it cannot be ported to angstrom...?? Oct 01 12:31:13 abstract all things? Oct 01 12:33:29 mru: I never said that. Oct 01 12:33:38 av500, do you use the angstrom, ie how many people uses the default angstom image or just switch to ubuntu.. Oct 01 12:37:59 boggle, probably depends on what you want to use it for Oct 01 12:38:45 thurgood, I want to use it for running a 3d printer. Oct 01 12:38:53 most of the ubuntu people seem to want a desktop experience Oct 01 12:40:08 KotH: The termios man page is a good reference but I can understand how reading it could be almost counter productive for a novice. Oct 01 12:41:28 boggle, if you want it for that specific reason go with whatever has the better drivers, if any Oct 01 12:41:40 ubuntu then Oct 01 12:41:56 thanks everyone Oct 01 12:48:20 georgem: so, you mean that understanding something and getting your own code working is counter productive? Oct 01 12:49:42 the getting it working part is the key I suppose Oct 01 12:52:34 KotH: no, not at all. The problem is that if you're trying to do something simple like send a byte out of the serial port (without it doing anything funny to it) you've got to sift through a man page full of irrelevant flags. I'd suggest the user get familiar with how uarts work on a simple microcontroller so they know the basic principals. Then it will be easier for them to spot all of the termios flags they don't need. Oct 01 12:53:09 georgem: that's what we have the intarwebzs with their example codes for Oct 01 12:53:23 georgem: it doesnt take even 5min to find working code out there Oct 01 12:54:00 finding working code that works the way you want it to may take considerably longer :P Oct 01 12:54:46 then there's the licensing of examples once if you do find something :/ Oct 01 12:54:53 KotH: True... Finding a working example and referencing the man page as needed isn't an invalid approach by any means. More so than blinding reading the man page :) Oct 01 13:02:37 Everyone seems to be exuberantly trolly today :) Oct 01 13:03:57 I see two uEnv.txt files: one in /boot and one in /media/BEAGLEBONE. Which one is actually used by U-Boot? I have entered a serverip in both but at the u-boot prompt if I enter "printenv serverip" it is not defined :( Oct 01 13:04:39 hello again Oct 01 13:05:08 ive been reading about usb keyboards since earler this morning Oct 01 13:05:29 especially my little maplin thingy Oct 01 13:05:47 Anguel: Unless something has changed it should be the one on the fat partition which I believe is /media/BEAGLEBONE Oct 01 13:07:45 georgem: I also read this somewhere, but if I add serverip=192.168.0.132 to that file I don't see that serverip defined at the u-boot prompt. maybe I misunderstand something... Oct 01 13:08:28 CONFIG_HID_ORTEK isnt enabled and hid-ortek.c driver not installed Oct 01 13:09:05 now mine is a maplin one but there are many different models all for the same thing sold around the world Oct 01 13:09:31 i found this : http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v3.11.2/drivers/hid/hid-ortek.c Oct 01 13:09:33 Anguel: I've been using barebox recently. Let me double check something to make sure I've got things straight... Oct 01 13:11:52 georgem: on the other hand if i do a printenv in uboot it says: bootdir=/boot bootenv=uEnv.txt But I also tried modifying that other uEnv.txt file too without success Oct 01 13:12:02 which is the driver Oct 01 13:12:02 and this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594007&page=3 Oct 01 13:12:04 which describes the antics required Oct 01 13:12:05 except their model number is different Oct 01 13:12:07 HTPC Ortek Wireless mini Thumb Keyboard Mouse Combo PKB-1700 Oct 01 13:12:09 and this was for ubuntu orchid Oct 01 13:12:11 so now i need to play at getting it patched into a build and try it Oct 01 13:12:47 so see ya later Oct 01 13:16:41 Anguel: Do you see u-boot display this on boot?: *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment Oct 01 13:18:56 georgem: I see that, but later it says reading uEnv.txt and seems to succeed Oct 01 13:19:37 georgem: but this happens after the "hit any key to stop booting" so probably uEnv.txt is loaded after I enter the boot prompt Oct 01 13:19:50 yeah. I think so Oct 01 13:19:59 Anguel: do printenv Oct 01 13:20:15 you'll probably see stuff from uEnv.txt there Oct 01 13:20:31 readenv() is for reading env from the console, which of course isn't happening Oct 01 13:20:39 ah ok Oct 01 13:23:31 Anguel: oh, I guess you don't see stuff from uEnv.txt >_> Oct 01 13:23:37 * honestly just read backlog Oct 01 13:24:06 ok... go to console then do printenv. Oct 01 13:24:50 i think the problem is that uEnv.txt is loaded AFTER getting the opportunity to enter uboot promt Oct 01 13:25:08 right. look at bootcmd. You have to run just up to the part that loads uEnv.txt Oct 01 13:28:35 georgem: can I modifiy that? Oct 01 13:30:41 Anguel: To modify it permanently I think you need to build the bootloader from source. But if you just run the part up to where it loads the kernel you can do printenv and see your stuff from uEnv.txt Oct 01 13:31:36 georgem: ok, but how would I tell it to run to there? Oct 01 13:32:26 copy/paste? Oct 01 13:32:29 yeah Oct 01 13:32:42 ok, thanks :) Oct 01 13:32:57 might need to add an "fi" at the end to close the if Oct 01 13:38:24 georgem: thanks, that worked Oct 01 13:38:42 now i see my serverip :) Oct 01 13:38:47 yay Oct 01 15:06:34 hello Oct 01 15:07:38 I am reading BBB_SRM.pdf,what is vdd 5v and sys 5v,what is the difference between them. Oct 01 15:10:41 I am very confuse about they provide DC 3.3v,vdd 5v and sys 5v,what's the major difference between them. how can I make a choice from these 3 option when I want to use power supply from beagle bone black Oct 01 15:11:12 Thank you in advance Oct 01 15:19:33 thsdfasdflkj;kas i Oct 01 15:29:34 NT what are you trying to do with the power, I don't think there's any 5 volt logic on the board, is there? Oct 01 15:34:44 thurgood: on the page 82 table 12 of BBB_SRM Oct 01 15:35:10 pin 3,4 is DC 3.3v Oct 01 15:35:23 pin 5,6 is vdd 5v Oct 01 15:35:42 pin 7,8 is sys 5v Oct 01 15:36:17 yeah but those are stable, not logic driven Oct 01 15:37:06 thank you a lot,can you explain what does logic mean here to me Oct 01 15:38:37 they can be controlled by the CPU/system to do digital i/o Oct 01 15:39:15 Anyone know what the default IP address is for the images here: https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/ ? (The images pointed to by the elinux.org wiki on how to flash debian/unbutu to the BBB) Oct 01 15:39:32 Or is it configured for dhcp? Oct 01 15:39:40 Or am I SOL trying this headless? heh Oct 01 15:39:50 if you want a 5V power supply I would not get it off the board Oct 01 15:40:00 Dc 3.3v and vdd 5v and sys 5v ,they all are not logic driven,or just vdd and sys is not logic driven? Oct 01 15:44:11 I mean pin 3,4,5,6,7,8,the power supply from all these pins are not logic driven,or just the power supply from pin 5,6,7,8 are not logic driven? Oct 01 15:55:16 So, a buddy of mine bought me a BBB, finally got around to unboxing it, and found this: https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1379843_710013112346406_366291433_n.jpg Oct 01 15:55:20 I assume that lifted pin isn't normal? Oct 01 15:57:47 malcom2073 as long as it connects with the muSD card all is fine Oct 01 15:57:58 It does not. Oct 01 15:58:04 it's lifted up away from the card Oct 01 15:58:24 It won't read the card Oct 01 15:58:31 try carefully to get it back in position Oct 01 15:58:33 ifI hold the pin down with my finger, it reads the card, but as soon as I let go, it stops heh Oct 01 15:58:42 woglinde: it's a spring, I push it down, it pops back up Oct 01 15:58:51 hm than rma ir Oct 01 15:58:58 ups rma it Oct 01 15:59:55 I guess I can try, if I had been using it I would've assumed that I caught it on some clothing or something to bend it up, so if I was them I wouldn't believe me that it came like that lol Oct 01 16:01:44 hmm, RMA form needs a serial number.... the serial number spot on the board is blank.... :/ Oct 01 16:06:32 ouch Oct 01 16:10:55 malcom2073: 00-00-AA-00-AA Oct 01 16:11:00 >_> Oct 01 16:11:59 There's a nubmer with a barcode written on the expansion header, might that be a SN? Oct 01 16:15:46 Ah well, submitted an RMA reuqest, we'll see what happens. If all else fails I can hopefully find a part number for this SD card holder, and solder on a new one myself Oct 01 16:16:49 googling implies that that is the number on the barcode sticker is the serial # Oct 01 16:20:58 Odd that it's neitherin the SN space, or small enough to even fit in the SN space Oct 01 16:39:45 good reason not to be in the s/n space I suppose... if it doesn't fit Oct 01 16:43:16 I don't know, I've never seen a BBB serial number, so I don't know if the number I have is one :) Oct 01 16:43:25 I tried though, just gotta wait and see Oct 01 16:44:38 There's my answer. Oct 01 16:44:39 "RMA approved. The barcode number is the serial number of the board, which is also the RMA number." Oct 01 16:44:43 That was fast Oct 01 16:48:46 http://armbedded.eu/node/476 Oct 01 16:48:51 WHY!? Oct 01 17:09:43 other then patching the hosts file what else needs to be done to get angstrom to update? Oct 01 18:18:51 hey does anyone know how to check the usb_OCn line on the beagle bone black? Oct 01 18:19:07 using angstrom or ubuntu Oct 01 18:19:12 hey does anyone know how to check the usb_OCn line on the beagle bone black? Oct 01 18:19:22 oops sry Oct 01 19:08:02 hello Oct 01 19:08:17 anyone managed to install OpenVPN in the BBB? Oct 01 19:08:50 running Angstrom Oct 01 19:09:25 I haven't tried to install that, I'm still working on resolving the pkg installer problem Oct 01 19:09:49 it seems there is no openvpn package for angstrom Oct 01 19:10:05 can you get source? Oct 01 19:10:41 yes but i would have to cross compile and i never did it. i tried today but no success Oct 01 19:13:40 what about a native compile on the Beagle? Oct 01 19:13:57 there is no package Oct 01 19:14:15 oh, you mean to compile directly there, i still did not try installing gcc, make, etc Oct 01 19:44:55 good afternoon everybody! Oct 01 20:20:50