**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 06 02:59:58 2013
Oct 06 06:45:48 <vinu> i was trying to get qnx on beaglebone
Oct 06 06:46:07 <vinu> but i could not find /img file for qnx but i have .iso file
Oct 06 06:46:20 <vinu> does beaglebone boots with .iso file??
Oct 06 06:46:27 <vinu> please help
Oct 06 06:48:01 <vinu> please reply
Oct 06 06:59:37 <ka6sox> 3 minutes...on a weekend...expecting #exactsteps too!
Oct 06 07:14:08 <KotH> especially considering that the us is about to go to sleep and europe hasn't woken up yet
Oct 06 07:15:32 <ka6sox> I think he is a chocolate hater too.
Oct 06 07:16:20 <ka6sox> likes QNX
Oct 06 08:52:43 * dm8tbr ponders usb switching of 0a12:100b Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd - http://blog.ruecker.fi/2013/10/06/adventures-in-bluetooth-4-0-part-i/
Oct 06 12:46:20 <rathya> I want to run QNX OS on beaglebone black
Oct 06 12:46:33 <rathya> where can i get img file??
Oct 06 12:46:42 <rathya> i searched a lot on google
Oct 06 12:47:02 <rathya> but couldn't find
Oct 06 12:47:07 <rathya> please help
Oct 06 12:58:02 <CareBear\> rathya : talk to blackberry
Oct 06 13:00:07 <dm8tbr> rathya: ask blackberry or TI
Oct 06 13:03:46 <rathi> can anyone tell me where an i get .img file of qnx
Oct 06 13:04:06 <rathi> I want to install it on beaglebone
Oct 06 13:04:25 <dm8tbr> 12:59:13< dm8tbr> rathya: ask blackberry or TI
Oct 06 13:04:25 <dm8tbr> 13:00:07< CareBear\> rathya : talk to blackberry
Oct 06 13:07:29 <rathi> does beaglebone black recognise .iso file instead
Oct 06 13:07:32 <rathi> ??
Oct 06 13:08:01 <CareBear\> rathi : no..
Oct 06 13:09:30 <rathi> please tell me some way to get an img file of qnx ??
Oct 06 13:16:42 <dm8tbr> we have told you, now go and heed the advice
Oct 06 13:32:13 <vvu|Log> any idea how i can dump an USB device descriptor from /dev or /ss ?
Oct 06 13:32:34 <vvu|Log>  /sys
Oct 06 13:33:35 <KotH> you cannot
Oct 06 13:33:43 <KotH> the binary data is not directly available
Oct 06 13:33:51 <KotH> but you can access its fields
Oct 06 13:34:08 <KotH> alternatively you can use libusb to directly access the device
Oct 06 13:34:14 <vvu|Log> the people from libusb mailing list asked me to provide the device descriptor for the am335x chip
Oct 06 13:34:28 <KotH> eh..
Oct 06 13:34:34 <KotH> just look into the source code
Oct 06 13:34:37 <vvu|Log> i am trying to port my project to OSx and there libusb does not work with the am335x
Oct 06 13:34:42 <KotH> it's in there somewhere
Oct 06 13:40:18 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : hi
Oct 06 13:40:55 <vvu|Log> hello CareBear\
Oct 06 13:41:14 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : I was made maintainer of libusb a few years ago
Oct 06 13:41:28 <vvu|Log> nice nice
Oct 06 13:41:36 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : you haven't gotten very good advice on the mailing list
Oct 06 13:41:44 <vvu|Log> you checked the ML ? :)
Oct 06 13:42:15 <CareBear\> long ago
Oct 06 13:42:25 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : you also haven't provided very good information about your problem
Oct 06 13:42:26 <vvu|Log> i don't reallu know what to do at this point. don't know any other alternative for libusb on OSX
Oct 06 13:42:44 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : the problem may be that you don't know USB
Oct 06 13:43:00 <vvu|Log> true here, i'm not that experienced with usb
Oct 06 13:43:09 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : and neither #beagle nor #libusb nor libusb-devel@ provides USB training
Oct 06 13:43:51 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : provide more detailed information about how your thing works on Linux
Oct 06 13:44:18 <vvu|Log> i don't really know what to provide...it just works out of the box :)
Oct 06 13:48:26 <CareBear\> provide the code
Oct 06 13:48:35 <vvu|Log> i have given the src code there
Oct 06 13:48:41 <vvu|Log> the link on github with my main.c
Oct 06 13:52:36 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : OK. so, after reverse-engineering your source code it seems that you are doing it wrong<tm>
Oct 06 13:53:40 <CareBear\> vvu|Log : the USB device provides a CDC ethernet interface, you should just use the standard kernel userspace API for networking, instead of trying to go behind the back of the kernel's driver stack for this USB device. that is the reason why your program doesn't work on OS X.
Oct 06 13:54:49 <vvu|Log> fair enough if so, i was thinking i can just compile it on OSX and profit afterwards :)
Oct 06 13:55:15 <CareBear\> if you are going to use any particular technology then you *really* need to understand how it works
Oct 06 13:55:32 <CareBear\> otherwise you can't make good use of it
Oct 06 13:56:02 <vvu|Log> i applied the same logic as I used on Android, take the communication in my own hands and craft everything
Oct 06 13:56:28 <CareBear\> that's probably *just* as broken on android as here
Oct 06 13:56:59 <vvu|Log> yes but on android i did not have root access to mess up with network interfaces
Oct 06 13:57:03 <CareBear\> USB and device classes have been developed OVER DECADES by hundreds if not thousands of very competent engineers
Oct 06 13:57:16 <CareBear\> do you REALLY believe that you are in a position to invent a better wheel than they?
Oct 06 13:57:24 <vvu|Log> no, surely not
Oct 06 13:57:29 <CareBear\> so don't do that
Oct 06 15:25:26 <N2TOH> any tips on resolving angstrom dependency errors? well other then further sharpening my Google foo
Oct 06 15:33:08 <ka6sox> N2TOH, pastebin is your friend
Oct 06 15:34:08 <ka6sox> pastebin the last 50ish lines (and include all the error + a bit more above it)
Oct 06 15:35:44 <N2TOH> again they have yet to develop the drag and drop cut and paste between computers
Oct 06 15:36:14 <N2TOH> I'm currently on my PC, and the trouble is on the Beagle Black
Oct 06 15:36:15 <ka6sox> are you building *on* the bbb?
Oct 06 15:36:30 <ka6sox> okay, what terminal emulator are you using?
Oct 06 15:36:46 <N2TOH> currently no GUI or IRC client on the BBB
Oct 06 15:37:02 <ka6sox> right, what terminal emulator on your PC are you using?
Oct 06 15:37:10 <ka6sox> PUtty?
Oct 06 15:37:13 <ka6sox> or something else?
Oct 06 15:38:47 <N2TOH> perhaps I'm not understanding where your going with the line of questing, but the PC is running Ubuntu and I use the default installed terminal code
Oct 06 15:39:14 <N2TOH> you know Ctrl + Alt + T
Oct 06 15:39:44 <ka6sox> unless you are using screen you can copy/pasta from the terminal windows and scroll back
Oct 06 15:40:33 <N2TOH> the BBB has a keyboard and monitor attached, as I was having trouble with network acces before the current snag
Oct 06 15:42:15 <ka6sox> mru will shoot me for this but: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/167
Oct 06 15:42:31 <ka6sox> *why* are you hurting yourself by doing this *on* the device
Oct 06 15:42:41 <ka6sox> you have a MUCH faster computer with Linux on it to do this...
Oct 06 15:43:11 <mru> ka6sox: purity! think of the children!
Oct 06 15:43:49 * N2TOH is not a coder, why cross compile code when I can run it natively on the hardware. 
Oct 06 15:44:00 <aglk> is anyone familiar with setting up 1-wire module on BeagleBone?
Oct 06 15:44:35 <ka6sox> N2TOH, because of *exactly* what you are experiencing now...the inability to get help because we can't see what is going on.
Oct 06 15:45:00 <ka6sox> and, depending on the recipies, about 10X performance.
Oct 06 15:45:20 <N2TOH> I suppose I can attempt to console into it via ssh or if need be a serial console
Oct 06 15:45:25 <mru> code is just data to the compiler
Oct 06 15:45:38 <mru> why does it matter what kind of machine you run it on?
Oct 06 15:45:50 <_av500_> you are bulding angstrom ON the beagleboard?
Oct 06 15:45:59 <ka6sox> *yes*
Oct 06 15:46:04 <_av500_> oh
Oct 06 15:46:19 <N2TOH> I am installing ViewRF on the BBB and it requires Angstrom
Oct 06 15:46:26 <_av500_> ?
Oct 06 15:46:32 <mru> I doubt that
Oct 06 15:46:39 <_av500_> I have doubts too
Oct 06 15:46:41 <N2TOH> it's for an RTL-SDR based Spectruim Analyser
Oct 06 15:47:10 <ka6sox> N2TOH, the HowTo you are following uses Angstrom.
Oct 06 15:47:16 <N2TOH> http://robotics.ong.id.au/2013/08/25/viewrf-rtl-sdr-spectrum-analyzer-for-bbb-software/
Oct 06 15:47:26 <N2TOH> I can get as far as step #8
Oct 06 15:48:06 <_av500_> ok, you are NOT building angstrom on the BBB
Oct 06 15:48:15 <_av500_> you are building some SDR Sw
Oct 06 15:48:18 <_av500_> on the BBB
Oct 06 15:48:22 <ka6sox> he is compiling still on the BBB
Oct 06 15:48:29 <N2TOH> I am "installing" software
Oct 06 15:48:29 <_av500_> sure
Oct 06 15:48:49 <_av500_> and unless he can tell us what goes wrong, all we can do is to guess
Oct 06 15:48:52 <ka6sox> worse...its Qmake...
Oct 06 15:48:56 <ka6sox> hurt me baby!@
Oct 06 15:50:01 <N2TOH> networking issues aside, so I don't waste all of your time. what is the quickest way to setup a serial or network link between my PC and BBB
Oct 06 15:50:19 <N2TOH> that way I can paste bin the results like you keeps asking for
Oct 06 15:50:22 <ka6sox> usbnet to 192.168.7.2
Oct 06 15:50:28 <_av500_> ssh
Oct 06 15:50:32 <ka6sox> and ssh
Oct 06 15:50:34 <_av500_> network cable
Oct 06 15:50:46 <ka6sox> well..he is having network issues
Oct 06 15:50:48 <N2TOH> so we have one for the USB, and one for ethernet
Oct 06 15:51:00 <ka6sox> I vote which ever one works.
Oct 06 15:51:00 <N2TOH> let me try the USB first
Oct 06 15:51:01 <_av500_> just ethernet is fine
Oct 06 15:51:11 <ka6sox> what he said ^^
Oct 06 15:51:19 <N2TOH> what is less config time?
Oct 06 15:51:38 <ka6sox> mismo
Oct 06 15:52:02 <ka6sox> 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other.
Oct 06 15:52:27 <N2TOH> is there any danger of pluging the USB into my PC while I have the 5 volt power input in use?
Oct 06 15:52:51 <ka6sox> only what you have already discovered in the last session
Oct 06 15:53:27 <N2TOH> I have not pluged into the 5V and the USB at the same time yet
Oct 06 15:53:41 <ka6sox> then plug it into ethernet + 5v
Oct 06 15:54:06 <_av500_> usb and 5v is fine
Oct 06 15:54:49 <N2TOH> ok locating IP addy now
Oct 06 15:55:22 <ka6sox> Good Plan(tm)
Oct 06 15:55:33 <_av500_> mine ran away once
Oct 06 15:55:38 <N2TOH> lol
Oct 06 15:56:12 <N2TOH> silly question is ssh enabled by default?
Oct 06 15:56:32 <N2TOH> I have not needed in in years, it's been so long we used to use telnet
Oct 06 15:57:56 <ka6sox> on which interface?
Oct 06 16:01:19 <N2TOH> I'll try ther ehternet first as it's already connected to the router
Oct 06 16:01:48 <_av500_> router is fine
Oct 06 16:01:54 <_av500_> pc -> router -> BBB
Oct 06 16:02:00 <_av500_> routers route
Oct 06 16:02:23 <dm8tbr> some images had some sshd startup problem IIRC
Oct 06 16:04:40 * mru suspects it's actually nothing but a dumb switch
Oct 06 16:05:11 <ka6sox> lets hope
Oct 06 16:05:49 * mru remembers when hubs were commonplace
Oct 06 16:06:05 <mru> and before that, coax cables
Oct 06 16:06:14 <_av500_> yellow ones
Oct 06 16:06:43 <N2TOH> it's one of those silly Verizon MOca +WiFi + ethernet boxes
Oct 06 16:06:55 <_av500_> burn it with fire
Oct 06 16:07:15 <N2TOH> then piss on it before it burns down the house
Oct 06 16:08:39 <ka6sox> is that one of those "you got 90minutes till your phone stops working" boxes?
Oct 06 16:08:58 <N2TOH> yeah
Oct 06 16:09:24 <ka6sox> Those worked GREAT after Sandy...:P
Oct 06 16:09:34 <N2TOH> they "claim" the battery will last 8 hours.... LOL yeah right, and if belive that I'll tell you another one
Oct 06 16:09:49 <ka6sox> except if your power is out for 2 weeks.
Oct 06 16:10:12 <N2TOH> yeah well all the stuff upstream needs power too
Oct 06 16:10:48 <N2TOH> kinda pointless to have emergency backup power when the telco dropped the ball
Oct 06 16:11:54 <ka6sox> unless they are flooded too.
Oct 06 16:12:22 <N2TOH> anyway let me confirm the ssh, as I have to leave soon
Oct 06 16:13:06 <mru> I don't how it is elsewhere, but in sweden the landline phone network has some serious backup power
Oct 06 16:14:13 <mru> so much even that they sometimes sell power to the national grid
Oct 06 16:14:14 <N2TOH> mru, back when we used the old copper POTS lines the battery was located in the Central office providing your phone service.
Oct 06 16:15:02 <N2TOH> now that we have optical cables to your door, then power the customer equipment from grid power
Oct 06 16:15:20 <mru> you have optical cables into your house? what planet are you on?
Oct 06 16:16:14 <ka6sox> FiOS baybee
Oct 06 16:16:22 <N2TOH> yeah Verizon provised FiOS, is a mono fiber optical network
Oct 06 16:16:48 <N2TOH> bidirectional optics
Oct 06 16:17:00 <ka6sox> we had some serious battery plant
Oct 06 16:17:06 <mru> sounds great except for one little detail
Oct 06 16:17:09 <mru> verizon
Oct 06 16:17:15 <N2TOH> LOL YEAH!
Oct 06 16:17:59 <N2TOH> about 15 years ago I was speaking with a network engenere asking why they needed to use 2 fibers for full duplex
Oct 06 16:18:08 <N2TOH> seems I was correct again
Oct 06 16:19:03 <mru> yet you can't build a simple piece of software
Oct 06 16:19:42 <N2TOH> a screw driver is not a compiler, your quip is invalid
Oct 06 16:20:34 <mru> to a caveman they are both magic
Oct 06 16:20:55 <N2TOH> tottally different skill set, they kept me busy with the tasks I was adept at resolving quickly. my coworkers did the other magic
Oct 06 16:21:21 <N2TOH> try explaining the need for proper SCSI bus termination to an admin
Oct 06 16:22:12 <mru> it's obvious, you get signal reflection otherwise
Oct 06 16:23:00 <ka6sox> Take a picture of what you are seeing with your film camera, send it out for development, bring it back and attempt to scan it to a TIFF, try to convert it to JPEG, post it in FB and ask us to read it...
Oct 06 16:23:09 <N2TOH> to us yes, the guy used to be an auto mechanic... he eventually became a computer jocky
Oct 06 16:23:42 <N2TOH> PFFT! HAHAH that just might be easier, you want it OCRed too?
Oct 06 16:24:05 <mru> ka6sox: you need to work a wooden table in there somehow
Oct 06 16:24:07 <ka6sox> YES!
Oct 06 16:24:18 <ka6sox> mru, and candelight
Oct 06 16:24:19 <Shadyman> Then print it, and fax it.
Oct 06 16:24:59 <ka6sox> I prefer woodcuts to etchings as well...
Oct 06 16:25:27 <N2TOH> do I need to work in a reference to EC Esher too?
Oct 06 16:25:36 <N2TOH> MC Esher*
Oct 06 16:25:42 <ka6sox> yes
Oct 06 16:25:48 <Shadyman> ans MC Hammer?
Oct 06 16:25:53 <Shadyman> and*
Oct 06 16:25:53 <mru> Escher
Oct 06 16:26:07 <Shadyman> and MC Donald
Oct 06 16:26:08 <N2TOH> hmm the Escher GUI
Oct 06 16:27:38 <N2TOH> ok it's installed now to check it's status
Oct 06 16:28:45 <ka6sox> #beagle....where we can go off topic faster than the 1/2 life of a Higgs boson particle
Oct 06 16:29:12 <N2TOH> wait?! the USB will also do USB to Serial conversion?
Oct 06 16:30:22 <Shadyman> ka6sox: :3
Oct 06 16:32:51 <KotH> ka6sox: hmm.. i think you are giving us a upper bound for the topic half life. i guess it's closer to planck time ;)
Oct 06 16:38:23 <ka6sox> KotH, I think you are talking about context switching times there.
Oct 06 16:40:39 <mrmcan> hi, im using arch arm on beaglebone black. i want to update my pin mux settings, so i created and write its code on dts file, than compiled, transferred compiled file to /lib/firmware. But when i want to echo it to /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots it says me write error. on Debian i didnt get any error. I think arch dist missing some packages... Do you have any suggestions? Thank you in advance
Oct 06 16:44:13 <ka6sox> mrmcan, paste the error to pastebin and give us a link
Oct 06 16:44:45 <N2TOH> so I installed PuTTY and got it working. now I am learning how to copy/paste
Oct 06 16:45:25 <ka6sox> what?
Oct 06 16:45:31 <N2TOH> gotta run bibiab
Oct 06 16:45:36 <ka6sox> I thought your PC was Ubuntu
Oct 06 16:45:51 * ka6sox confuzed
Oct 06 16:46:24 <KotH> ka6sox: there is putty for linux too
Oct 06 16:46:34 <KotH> ka6sox: no idea why anyone would want to use that, but it exists
Oct 06 16:49:32 <mrcan_> ka6sox: http://paste.laravel.com/VUa
Oct 06 17:00:13 <ka6sox> mrcan_, pastebin your dts file (uncompiled)
Oct 06 17:01:45 <mrcan_> ka6sox: http://pastebin.com/zKPpFwg1
Oct 06 17:03:05 <ka6sox> paste here your uname -a
Oct 06 17:04:42 <mrcan_> ka6sox: Linux alarm 3.12.0-rc2-1-ARCH #1 SMP Wed Sep 25 17:23:54 CDT 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
Oct 06 17:05:05 <ka6sox> unable to help you with this kernel
Oct 06 17:05:52 <ka6sox> YMMV
Oct 06 17:06:34 <KotH> too new?
Oct 06 17:07:59 <ka6sox> I don't know where we are with kernel development these days...been stuck in board hell.
Oct 06 17:08:20 <ka6sox> but its an ARCH linux kernel...not from the Beagleboard archives.
Oct 06 17:08:26 <ka6sox> so all bets are off.
Oct 06 17:09:43 <Fruit> running a debian wheezy kernel would be a bad idea?
Oct 06 17:11:39 <mrcan_> arch have better booting time. for developing device its very important for us.
Oct 06 17:14:33 <ka6sox> mrcan_, at the price of having very little support when you fail.
Oct 06 17:15:10 <ka6sox> so that slows you down considerably
Oct 06 17:15:17 <mrcan_> yes you are right ^^
Oct 06 17:18:16 <ka6sox> mrcan_, I'd try the latest kernel from the latest images repo @ feeds.angstrom-distribution.org
Oct 06 17:18:27 <ka6sox> unless arch does something funny that might work.
Oct 06 17:18:50 <ka6sox> then you are on a more solid footing
Oct 06 17:44:31 <KotH> mrcan_: if boot time is important for you, choose a meta distro that is actually made for embedded devices
Oct 06 17:44:50 <KotH> mrcan_: getting below 10s is standard, getting sub-1s is not unheard of
Oct 06 17:45:08 <mru> if boot time is important, don't use a bloated "init system"
Oct 06 17:45:51 <mru> busybox init and a single rcS script doing exactly what you want will beat anything else
Oct 06 17:52:51 <mrcan_> what does meta distro?
Oct 06 17:53:35 <mrcan_> tag?
Oct 06 18:40:38 <mulysatest> can anyone recommend the good book for beaglebone dev?
Oct 06 18:53:27 <_av500_> a linux book
Oct 06 18:53:40 <_av500_> KotH: url him
Oct 06 19:22:12 <sau> hey i am new here i wanted to inquire abt something   i am looking for single board computer with x86 processor can u plz help me in this anyhow
Oct 06 19:25:17 <vagrantc> sau: check out  minnowboard.org, but they're pricey...
Oct 06 19:25:35 <maxinux> intel just announced one - arduino compatable
Oct 06 19:25:54 <maxinux> intel galileo
Oct 06 19:26:11 <SpeedEvil> but may not be cheaper
Oct 06 19:26:19 <SpeedEvil> and what speed do you want and power
Oct 06 19:26:27 <maxinux> cheap was not requested, just x86
Oct 06 19:26:50 <maxinux> MSRP for the Galileo is to be $60
Oct 06 19:26:57 <sau> any where above 1.5 ghz
Oct 06 19:27:23 <maxinux> this is not gonna be the right channel for those questions though
Oct 06 20:02:10 <CaptChrisD> Has anyone in here made the beaglebone black auto boot when the power is plugged in? I need it to power on without hitting the power button
Oct 06 20:05:10 <dm8tbr> isn't that what it does by default?
Oct 06 20:07:35 <ion> It should be.
Oct 06 20:26:56 <KotH> _av500_: sorry, was out of house
Oct 06 20:27:35 <KotH> mrcan_: please dont send private messages unless specifically asked for
Oct 06 20:28:01 <KotH> mrcan_: angström and buildroot are probably the best known meta distros
Oct 06 20:28:09 <KotH> mrcan_: i think there is a list on elinux
Oct 06 20:28:15 <KotH> mrcan_: and if you google you will find a dozen of those
Oct 06 20:28:33 <KotH> mrcan_: just type "embedded distro" or "embedded build system" or similar things
Oct 06 21:13:07 <N2TOH> http://pastebin.com/xecmd4vX
Oct 06 21:15:23 <N2TOH> CaptChrisD, what is your boot media?
Oct 06 21:56:45 <Yoonbot> Does anyone know what the max microsd card size I can use on a BB black?
Oct 06 21:56:54 <mru> 10x15mm
Oct 06 21:59:33 <_av500_> mru: 15mm or longer
Oct 06 21:59:40 <_av500_> if you let it stick out
Oct 06 21:59:46 <yoonbot_> does anyone know what the maximum compatible memory size for microsd cards on the bb black?
Oct 06 22:00:02 <_av500_> yoonbot_: any size currently available
Oct 06 22:00:05 <yoonbot_> like 8GB?  16GB? 32? 64?
Oct 06 22:00:16 <CareBear\> can I share 10kbyte memory between PRU and CPU?
Oct 06 22:00:29 <_av500_> why not 8k?
Oct 06 22:00:32 <_av500_> :)
Oct 06 22:00:34 <_av500_> or 16
Oct 06 22:00:36 <CareBear\> I need more data :)
Oct 06 22:00:38 <CareBear\> 16k would also be fine
Oct 06 22:00:52 <_av500_> mdp: ^^
Oct 06 22:00:57 <yoonbot_> so I can use a 64GB microSD card in a bb black and it is compatible?
Oct 06 22:01:05 <_av500_> physically yes
Oct 06 22:01:16 <_av500_> you might need to remove EXFAT and put something else as file system
Oct 06 22:01:24 <_av500_> or you get that kanged Samsung driver
Oct 06 22:01:43 <yoonbot_> So what is the recommended size?  8GB?
Oct 06 22:01:52 <_av500_> whatever you want/need
Oct 06 22:02:00 <_av500_> buying <4GB is hard these days
Oct 06 22:02:11 <_av500_> just make sure it says "sandisk"
Oct 06 22:02:36 <yoonbot_> I plan on using it for the car, audio/video playback through a touch screen screen on android and perhaps GPS
Oct 06 22:02:56 <_av500_> dont get your hopes on video too high
Oct 06 22:02:57 <yoonbot_> So i would like to have the most memory without issues
Oct 06 22:03:02 <_av500_> there is no HW video decoder
Oct 06 22:03:07 <yoonbot_> yeah I figured, so most likely audio mostly
Oct 06 22:03:16 <_av500_> also you can plug an USB stick
Oct 06 22:03:23 <yoonbot_> true
Oct 06 22:04:05 <yoonbot_> http://www.costco.com/Sandisk-64-GB-Class-10-Micro-SDXC-and-Adapter.product.100057101.html
Oct 06 22:06:54 <CareBear\> do the PRUs on the black have more memory than on the white?
Oct 06 22:07:17 <CareBear\> http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2331 describes Matt's 6502 project with the white last year - "The 8k of RAM in the cores"
Oct 06 22:08:43 <CareBear\> in a reply Matt refers to "the AM335x SoC" which is what http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone Black lists as "Processor"
Oct 06 22:08:58 <CareBear\> ..suggesting that 8k memory is all I have to play with?
Oct 06 22:10:10 <mru> 8+8k per core and 12k shared
Oct 06 22:10:38 <CareBear\> hm
Oct 06 22:10:57 <mru> that's 8k data and 8k instruction memory
Oct 06 22:11:14 <CareBear\> the two cores can both drive the same IOs?
Oct 06 22:11:33 <mru> afaik yes
Oct 06 22:12:14 <CareBear\> and on shared memory contention the host simply stalls?
Oct 06 22:13:18 <mru> all that ram is contained within the pru subsystem
Oct 06 22:14:17 <CareBear\> but the 12k are separate from the 8k data?
Oct 06 22:14:30 <CareBear\> where's the docs on this?
Oct 06 22:14:30 <mru> there's a nice block diagram in the trm
Oct 06 22:14:47 <CareBear\> ok, there's none in the am3358 trm
Oct 06 22:14:56 <mru> in spruh73c there is
Oct 06 22:15:01 <CareBear\> spruh73i
Oct 06 22:15:04 <CareBear\> yeah, I'll get the old one
Oct 06 22:15:11 <mru> yeah, they deleted it
Oct 06 22:15:21 <CareBear\> ..I just noticed
Oct 06 22:15:25 <mru> that chapter is also available standalone somewhere
Oct 06 22:15:27 <CareBear\> let's see
Oct 06 22:15:43 <CareBear\> thank you elinux.org
Oct 06 22:17:41 <_av500_> CareBear\: there is a special command to access the GPIOs of the "other" PRU
Oct 06 22:17:52 <_av500_> mdp used that for the 6502 work IIRC
Oct 06 22:17:59 <_av500_> as he needed "many" pins(tm)
Oct 06 22:18:53 <mru> that's iirc because there are limits to how many pins can be routed to each pru core
Oct 06 22:19:09 <mru> for the most part, there are no restrictions which pins go to which core
Oct 06 22:22:25 <CareBear\> _av500_ : I remember
Oct 06 22:22:27 <CareBear\> _av500_ : thanks
Oct 06 22:22:36 <CareBear\> yes, so, I have my first project with a beagle
Oct 06 22:22:38 <CareBear\> \o/
Oct 06 22:22:58 <CareBear\> is the pru toolchain still on github?
Oct 06 22:23:29 <mru> who needs a toolchain?
Oct 06 22:23:36 <mru> can't be that hard to write it out in hex
Oct 06 22:24:58 <Raphaeon> I have a question about the PMIC charging function
Oct 06 22:25:28 <Raphaeon> I connected a battery to the TP 56 and 8
Oct 06 22:26:09 <Raphaeon> and checked all the I2C0 0x24 register's value and the battery CHG_EN is enabled
Oct 06 22:26:26 <Raphaeon> but the charging current is zero
Oct 06 22:26:39 <Raphaeon> I cannot figure out why
Oct 06 22:26:55 <Raphaeon> anybody has a clue?
Oct 06 22:27:23 <Raphaeon> btw the beaglebone can be powered by the battery
Oct 06 22:35:50 <CareBear\> wait..
Oct 06 22:35:57 <CareBear\> shared memory means shared between the PRUs?
Oct 06 22:36:05 <CareBear\> as opposed to shared between host and PRU
Oct 06 22:36:07 <CareBear\> ?
Oct 06 22:36:59 <CareBear\> I need to look closer at the 6502 project..
Oct 06 22:40:34 <_av500_> 6502 all the things!
Oct 06 22:40:41 <ka6sox-away> CareBear\, shared between the PRUs
Oct 06 22:40:54 <CareBear\> ka6sox : that's how I read spruh73c
Oct 06 22:41:00 <ka6sox-away> yup
Oct 06 22:42:04 <CareBear\> I want the PRU to output data received over ethernet. maybe I could even do something clever with zero copy
Oct 06 22:42:22 <CareBear\> but it would be all in kernel..
Oct 06 22:49:12 <ka6sox-away> :)
Oct 06 23:29:35 <TheLegace> hi, ive been playing around with the beaglebone files in orcad
Oct 06 23:29:57 <TheLegace> now im wondering if i want to make my own board can I find the symbols/footprint or should i make my own
Oct 06 23:30:17 <TheLegace> beaglebone black*
Oct 06 23:48:32 <TheLegace_> hi im not sure if im repeating this, but i opened the beaglebone black files in orcad and now im want to make a custom board, im wondering are there orcad symbols/footprints available or should i make my own parts
Oct 06 23:48:59 <ka6sox-away> ask on the Mailing List/Phorums/google groups about that one
Oct 06 23:49:44 <TheLegace_> ok, i think the link to symbols might be broken
Oct 06 23:49:48 <TheLegace_> so i will post
Oct 06 23:56:03 <oppygo> hi, just got my BBB @ makerfairerome today, nice! I'm using archlinux as HOST PC. I can access the BBB serial console through ttyACM0 fine while I can't get the Ethernet-over-USB working. on the BBB it's fine as I can read the HOST MAC addr on dmesg, on PC I get a new interface named enp0s20u1, the modules usbnet, ftdi_sio, rndis_host, rndis_wlan, cdc_ether are loaded, I try to assign the IP 192.168.7.4 and bring it up but I can't conn
Oct 07 00:18:06 <N2TOH> LOL on the microSD card questions! yeah I have used 16GB, and 8GB cards with my Beagle Black so far. there is a noticeable performance dofference between the class 4 and class 10 cards
Oct 07 00:52:50 <N2TOH> ah so I closed that pastebin link
Oct 07 00:54:48 <ka6sox> N2TOH, be sure to use a late kernel as there is a good performance increase in them.
Oct 07 00:55:07 <N2TOH> http://pastebin.com/xecmd4vX
Oct 07 00:55:35 <N2TOH> I am using the image provided by the guy who did the same Tut for ViewRF
Oct 07 00:55:56 <N2TOH> thus my confusion over the errors
Oct 07 00:56:13 <ka6sox> so BusyBox doesn't support sh -c eh...
Oct 07 00:57:32 <ka6sox> N2TOH, you have a perfectly good Ubuntu box...why are you contorting the poor Beagle to make it do things it wasn't intended to do?
Oct 07 00:58:30 <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/167
Oct 07 01:03:44 <N2TOH> ka6sox, http://robotics.ong.id.au/2013/07/29/demonstration-of-my-spectrum-analyzer-project/
Oct 07 01:03:48 <N2TOH> that's why
Oct 07 01:05:35 <N2TOH> my Ubuntu box draws in excess of 500 watts continuous, while not so awful during the heating season. I enjoy not sweating to death during the summer.
Oct 07 01:06:11 <SpeedEvil> why?
Oct 07 01:06:20 <SpeedEvil> my Slackware one draws 20
Oct 07 01:06:38 <SpeedEvil> you're not just going by the rating of the PSU?
Oct 07 01:07:24 <N2TOH> no, I have a will-a-watts P3 meter. it's actual draw including all monitors and speakers ETC ETC
Oct 07 01:07:38 <N2TOH> kill-a-watts*
Oct 07 01:09:05 <N2TOH> SpeedEvil, in other words I used to throw hardware at my GUI latency issues
Oct 07 01:09:55 <SpeedEvil> :-)
Oct 07 01:10:31 <N2TOH> this workstation by todays standards is a medium to lower end gaming system
Oct 07 01:11:17 <N2TOH> it's all about the latency timing
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 07 02:59:58 2013