**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 08 02:59:59 2013 Oct 08 03:08:45 <_vicash_> Hi BBB users, does anyone know what the best Bluetooth accessory is for the BBB ? I need to control a UI running on Angstrom using Bluetooth on another device such as a phone. Is there a bluetooth dongle I need to attach to the BBB ? If yes, which one is considered the best ? Oct 08 03:12:34 To answer my own question (finally) it turns out that if you "bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile" you MUST "bitbake virtual/kernel -c deploy", but if you just "bitbake systemd-image" it apparently does the compile and deploy steps automatically. I suppose that's what you get for following 9/10 of the directions. Oct 08 06:19:03 hi Oct 08 06:19:20 how can I disable file system check Oct 08 06:22:01 not recomended, but /etc/fstab controls that Oct 08 07:50:07 I have a i2c touchscreen controller which I can't get to work with the devicetree: Oct 08 07:50:08 edt-ft5x06@38 Oct 08 07:50:16 [ 5.992222] edt_ft5x06 1-0038: no platform data? Oct 08 07:50:16 [ 6.110693] edt_ft5x06: probe of 1-0038 failed with error -22 Oct 08 07:50:27 Somebody has any leads? Oct 08 07:50:43 It is on the right i2c bus and address Oct 08 07:50:58 connect an oscilloscope or a logic analyzer and see whether you see the correct data on the bus Oct 08 07:51:36 I can see data, but the kernel complains about no platform data, so I guessed it has something to do with the device tree binding Oct 08 07:53:23 hmm... Oct 08 07:53:43 well, then read up on plattform data :) Oct 08 07:53:58 Ugh =) Oct 08 07:54:15 i know i know, reading is shit work. but sometimes you have to go trough that ;) Oct 08 07:55:55 It's not the reading part, more of the understanding part =) Oct 08 07:55:57 Hi there? Oct 08 07:56:42 I have problem on BBB with lcd4, mouse jump. Oct 08 07:57:02 * LetoThe2nd suggests a mouse trap. or duct tape. Oct 08 07:57:34 can you give me somthing detail? Oct 08 07:58:00 Abama: no, but it would help if you would give us some more details about your setup. Oct 08 07:58:46 HI dm8tbr, i use BBB angstrom with 4d system lcd4 cap. Oct 08 07:59:50 need more information? Oct 08 07:59:53 RagBal: well, you can always ask specific questions ;) Oct 08 08:00:44 Abama: and you're using a usb mouse with it? Oct 08 08:01:46 i have install tslibrary and i use touchscreen input. Oct 08 08:24:33 anyone know if the beagle bone can handle dm-crypt/LUKS as a NAS? Oct 08 08:24:43 *beagle bone black Oct 08 08:25:46 simpleusername20: it runs linux. thats the answer. Oct 08 08:26:18 simpleusername20 yes and look at the neon kernel aes patches which might not get into the mainline Oct 08 08:26:32 i mean from a performance stand point Oct 08 08:26:50 simpleusername20: of course Oct 08 08:26:53 ethernet is connect via usb internally Oct 08 08:26:56 simpleusername20: it is fast enough Oct 08 08:27:13 simpleusername20: it only depends on "how fast" you want to have it Oct 08 08:27:26 gm koth btw. Oct 08 08:27:30 hey woglinde Oct 08 08:27:36 ethernet + storage over the usb interconnect is way more critical than anything concerning filesystems etc. Oct 08 08:27:48 KotH: was not specified ;) Oct 08 08:28:07 LetoThe2nd: doesnt matter. if not specified, we are allowed to assume anything ;) Oct 08 08:28:25 KotH: i hereby assume 3.1415bits/second. Oct 08 08:29:23 LetoThe2nd: i usually assume 137.035bits/s :) Oct 08 08:30:42 hrhr Oct 08 08:31:31 how usable is a oldschool beagle with 256mb ram as a desktop linux machine ? Oct 08 08:31:33 lol how many MB/s would it be able to handle? Oct 08 08:31:55 corpsicl1: i hereby define "desktop" as bash + links. totally usable. Oct 08 08:32:05 simpleusername20: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30 Oct 08 08:32:08 LetoThe2nd: ok, an X workstation then =P Oct 08 08:32:18 the rasppi really isnt usable with X imo Oct 08 08:32:26 maybe with a lot of tweaking Oct 08 08:32:34 corpsicl1: i hereby define X workstation as xterm running in twm directly on xorg. totally usable. Oct 08 08:32:36 but definitely not raspian out of the box Oct 08 08:32:41 corpsicl1: i used to work on an amd k6-II 350 with 64MB ram, and it was way more than fast enough Oct 08 08:32:53 well that sounds good Oct 08 08:33:07 i should try and get mine running one of these days Oct 08 08:33:23 of course i could just randomly decide to run riscos on it Oct 08 08:33:47 ofcourse you could just randomly decide to build a railgun and send the bbb up into space Oct 08 08:33:56 Koth: 54 MB/s or is that a joke...I am not nerdy enough to be able to tell :-( Oct 08 08:34:07 simpleusername20: read the link Oct 08 08:34:14 hm 54 MB/s hahahaaaa Oct 08 08:34:38 simpleusername20: you know what an url is, do you? Oct 08 08:34:58 *kopfschüttel* Oct 08 08:35:10 koth reading is out Oct 08 08:35:20 mindtransfer is the new opencv Oct 08 08:35:22 dude i clicked it, all it says is try and find out which is what i am trying to do by asking this channel Oct 08 08:35:43 simpleusername20: which part of "TRY" didn't you understand? Oct 08 08:36:15 simpleusername20: hint: "ask" != "try", even lexically ;) Oct 08 08:36:36 KotH: dude, I'm duded dude, but dude duded dude. Oct 08 08:36:53 LetoThe2nd: gesundheit! Oct 08 08:37:12 KotH: danke. Oct 08 08:38:38 i don't understand the need to talk down to people constantly on IRC Oct 08 08:39:11 simpleusername20: nobody tlaks down anybody. read all of the above as: "we do not know precisely, so try and find out. probably it will be slow." Oct 08 08:39:23 simpleusername20: we dont talk down to you, we mock you for asking questions that we cannot answer. and when we tell you to try it out, you keep insisting that we should provide you with a definte answer Oct 08 08:39:40 plus, you started duding ;) Oct 08 08:39:48 simpleusername20 alle we said is yes it works and we hint you that you might not satisfied with the performance Oct 08 08:40:03 what do you want more from us? Oct 08 08:40:12 woglinde: i want more duing. and spice. Oct 08 08:40:26 beer more beer Oct 08 08:40:27 yes Oct 08 08:42:51 what would be an x86 CPU with comparable speed to the beaglebone black cpu? Especially in regards to LUKS/dm-crypt? Oct 08 08:42:53 * KotH demands more good swiss chocolate! Oct 08 08:43:04 simpleusername20: WE DO NOT KNOW Oct 08 08:43:04 if anyone has any idea Oct 08 08:43:08 k Oct 08 08:43:18 it's one of the questions that are impossible to answer Oct 08 08:43:26 because it depends on so many factors Oct 08 08:43:40 factors that depend on which exact components you use Oct 08 08:43:50 simpleusername20: generally, x86 tend to have considerably more throughput, be it alone because of the usually might higher bandwidth interconnects. Oct 08 08:43:51 what software setup you use Oct 08 08:43:52 etc pp Oct 08 08:44:17 simpleusername20: but thats common knowledge, or at least totally unspecific and not BBB related in the least. Oct 08 08:44:58 simpleusername20: i mean, of course any cpu with with direct sata connect + direct ethernet connect will most likely outperform a power saving cpu with both running over USB, not? Oct 08 08:47:06 simpleusername20: so why do you demand us to provide numbers and knowledge, if you seem to not even do your most basic research homework? sorry, but of course that will get you a considerable amount of mocking. Oct 08 08:47:51 well i have searched on search engines but it is all blog spam, ehow, etc. Oct 08 08:48:00 i also searched on reddit Oct 08 08:48:04 uhm Oct 08 08:48:12 we gave you answer Oct 08 08:48:17 where is now the problem? Oct 08 08:48:31 woglinde: i am answering letothe2nd Oct 08 08:49:06 hm I simply now believe its a troll test Oct 08 08:49:16 simpleusername20: uh... do you really think "i searched on reddit" counts as researching? Oct 08 08:49:27 woglinde: probably. Oct 08 08:49:28 i also did a site search of beagleboard.org Oct 08 08:50:38 simpleusername20: may i kind-of-cite you from above? i don't understand the need of people constantly pestering IRC folks instead of just doing their homework themselves. Oct 08 08:51:00 simpleusername20: hint: google"comparison nas ARM x86" Oct 08 08:51:03 where should i be looking instead i already checked the site Oct 08 08:51:11 thanks Oct 08 08:53:50 Does anyone know where I can get BB-BONELT-HDMIN-00A0.dtbo , dmesg shows its unable load it Oct 08 08:54:35 ismail http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_and_the_3.8_Kernel Oct 08 08:55:35 woglinde: thanks, I am on 3.12rc4 but this is about DeviceTre anyhow I guess Oct 08 08:56:33 some people like to live on the edge ;) Oct 08 08:56:49 KotH: I tried to enable omap_rng, no luck so far :) Oct 08 08:56:59 but HDMI is not working either, so first things first Oct 08 08:57:20 ismail: bbb or bbw? Oct 08 08:57:23 ismail: or bb ? Oct 08 08:57:24 ismail aeh did you checked if all patches for bone got into 3.12? Oct 08 08:57:35 KotH: bbb Oct 08 08:57:41 otherwise you are on floor with no floor Oct 08 08:57:47 ismail: you are aware that the bbb does not have an omap? Oct 08 08:57:57 woglinde: using https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/tree/am33x-v3.12 Oct 08 08:58:04 KotH: sure but the module support am33xx Oct 08 08:58:10 ah..ok Oct 08 08:58:59 ismail hm okay Oct 08 08:59:23 ismail did rcn he has it working? Oct 08 08:59:25 +say Oct 08 08:59:32 woglinde: he didn't comment :) Oct 08 08:59:43 so floor without floor Oct 08 08:59:44 he just enabled the relevant config after I sent him an email Oct 08 08:59:52 hm hm Oct 08 09:00:03 so why do you ask us than Oct 08 09:00:11 where is cartman when one needs him? Oct 08 09:00:12 when you already asked the specialist Oct 08 09:00:16 woglinde: oh, I didn't ask him about hdmi thing. Oct 08 09:00:22 av500: :P Oct 08 09:00:32 av500 killed by kenny Oct 08 09:00:45 av500: give me the BB-BONELT-HDMIN-00A0.dts Oct 08 09:00:45 :P Oct 08 09:01:07 what does it do? Oct 08 09:01:16 unbreaks hdmi I hope Oct 08 09:01:20 ismail: fix my Suse first! Oct 08 09:01:33 av500: 13.1 is coming up nicely :P Oct 08 09:01:42 I knew 12.3 was just a decoy Oct 08 09:01:43 we even ported qemu to AARCH64! Oct 08 09:01:51 AAAAARCH Oct 08 09:01:51 fixing suse? Oct 08 09:01:54 oxymoron Oct 08 09:01:58 woglinde: wont happen Oct 08 09:02:03 * ismail goes back to googling Oct 08 09:02:13 ismail why? Oct 08 09:02:20 I already gave you the link Oct 08 09:02:27 was the first link with google Oct 08 09:02:35 woglinde: I have no idea how to create a dts for the HDMI thing Oct 08 09:02:36 there is all mentioned you need Oct 08 09:02:54 hm I should patent mindtransfer Oct 08 09:03:02 reading is really really so outdated Oct 08 09:03:06 I thought HDMI BBB works out of the box? Oct 08 09:03:08 no? Oct 08 09:03:11 remember I didn't know wtf DTS is a day ago Oct 08 09:03:18 av500: not with custom kernels Oct 08 09:03:24 ? Oct 08 09:03:33 av500: picture looks garbage somehow Oct 08 09:03:50 what is custom about the kernel? Oct 08 09:04:07 ismail: its not garbage, its block artefacts Oct 08 09:04:08 personally kanged Oct 08 09:04:11 av500: not the one that comes with bbb Oct 08 09:04:22 why would you not use the golden kernel? Oct 08 09:04:22 ah well fuck it, it works fine :P Oct 08 09:04:25 sorry Oct 08 09:04:51 dmesg got be into thinking it needed a firmware file Oct 08 09:05:37 http://hipstercircuits.com/enable-spi-with-device-tree-on-beaglebone-black-copy-paste/ Oct 08 09:05:47 yup found that Oct 08 09:07:44 ismail: not knowing something existed yesterday is no excuse to be not an expert of said thing to day Oct 08 09:07:49 today* Oct 08 09:07:53 KotH: true :) Oct 08 09:09:16 time to update CV? ;) Oct 08 09:10:17 sure! Oct 08 09:10:51 hm calling dtc makes you know kernel developer Oct 08 09:11:10 s/know/now Oct 08 09:11:22 woglinde: it's like the early 2000s, where being able to use frontpage made you a hacker Oct 08 09:12:50 LDD doubt.. Oct 08 09:13:14 how to change the configuration of a serial UART? Oct 08 09:13:41 setserial? Oct 08 09:13:50 is there a parallel UART too? Oct 08 09:14:26 av500, in redundant world redundant Oct 08 09:15:10 Actually I have a built a serial driver and a corresponding file in /dev directory... contnd... Oct 08 09:15:45 i want to change its baud rate .... can i change it using ioctl? Oct 08 09:16:10 termios Oct 08 09:16:21 you can using ioctl but is not portable Oct 08 09:16:44 'not portable' means Oct 08 09:16:55 * woglinde wonders why he wrote "serial driver" Oct 08 09:16:59 it will only work on linux Oct 08 09:17:06 woglinde, that's a good question Oct 08 09:17:22 sgr_ new hardware? Oct 08 09:17:36 its based on 16550 UART Oct 08 09:17:56 new cape? Oct 08 09:18:28 gm panto btw. Oct 08 09:19:54 how can i change it using termios Oct 08 09:20:06 google termois Oct 08 09:20:10 termios Oct 08 09:20:11 hi woglinde Oct 08 09:20:26 av500, termois sounds french Oct 08 09:20:38 perhaps they use that instead of termios :) Oct 08 09:25:43 : How to use ioctl for setting baud rate of UART? Oct 08 09:26:30 google baud rate ioctl Oct 08 09:26:35 why does anyone write a serial driver these days? Oct 08 09:26:54 KotH because you can Oct 08 09:27:02 KotH, sometime there are very weird connection methods based on a uart Oct 08 09:27:04 *sometimes Oct 08 09:27:16 * panto is probably sure that the place he's into now will do Oct 08 09:27:24 them auto guys are nuts Oct 08 09:27:41 panto what? Oct 08 09:27:42 dont they have CANs? Oct 08 09:27:57 woglinde: panto works for Fahrvergnügen now Oct 08 09:28:11 av500 escort service? Oct 08 09:28:50 * panto <- nvidia Oct 08 09:29:08 * panto slut for fixing bugs in other people's codez Oct 08 09:29:15 trying to write drivers for a custom board... I'm a beginner Oct 08 09:29:27 av500, they now came up with something even worst! Oct 08 09:29:29 MOST Oct 08 09:29:33 thats old Oct 08 09:29:38 panto so swarren is your boss? Oct 08 09:29:42 try Apfelmost Oct 08 09:29:44 no Oct 08 09:29:59 automotive div Oct 08 09:30:14 well, to tell you the truth I have no clue which division I am Oct 08 09:30:14 hm automotive is scarry Oct 08 09:30:30 a lot of geheimsekte Oct 08 09:30:35 those guys keep on doing things their own way Oct 08 09:30:42 yes Oct 08 09:30:44 even if their way is ahem, nuts Oct 08 09:30:52 double yes Oct 08 09:31:07 and do not tinker with the holy canbus Oct 08 09:31:14 amen Oct 08 09:31:17 panto: i always knew why i didn't want to go automotive, although both audi and bmw are pretty close here. Oct 08 09:31:18 panto: so will my next car have capebus? Oct 08 09:31:21 * panto throws grenade Oct 08 09:31:26 sgr_: then dont start from scratch. use an existing serial driver and modify it until it fits your needs Oct 08 09:31:33 panto: not grenadine? Oct 08 09:31:37 av500, not in the near future Oct 08 09:31:44 perhaps later :) Oct 08 09:31:47 I dont think sgr is writing a driver Oct 08 09:31:47 * woglinde is in semi automotive Oct 08 09:31:55 woglinde, motorcycles? :) Oct 08 09:31:55 he just has a board hooked up on serial Oct 08 09:32:05 that never has been done before Oct 08 09:32:06 panto no just contract Oct 08 09:32:16 same here Oct 08 09:32:22 panto I know Oct 08 09:32:29 but company contract Oct 08 09:32:34 you work on your own Oct 08 09:32:35 no direct NV presence in .gr, so, slut for hire :) Oct 08 09:32:58 berlin has nv but for cloud and graphics Oct 08 09:33:20 woglinde: secure german cloud? Oct 08 09:33:21 they might need ppl in munich Oct 08 09:33:28 the securest Oct 08 09:33:34 panto: nv bought a 3d physics engine company here in .ch Oct 08 09:33:35 only german NSA can access it Oct 08 09:33:38 panto: you could work there Oct 08 09:34:01 KotH, tell you what, I had my fill of central european weather already Oct 08 09:34:17 panto: swiss weather is different Oct 08 09:34:22 Mon, fog+rain - Tue, rain, Wed, fog Oct 08 09:34:24 they pay much more for it, so its better Oct 08 09:34:37 and variations of there of Oct 08 09:34:42 mountains on all sides keep away the fog Oct 08 09:34:51 and they shoot any fog that makes it across Oct 08 09:35:05 panto so you moved or still working from home? Oct 08 09:35:11 still working from home Oct 08 09:35:17 ah okay Oct 08 09:35:20 panto: yeah. swiss weather is different. Oct 08 09:35:21 but I'll have to travel occasionally Oct 08 09:35:29 KotH, I've been there Oct 08 09:35:31 panto: less sun, more clouds, more rain Oct 08 09:35:39 panto hm me wonders that automotive allowed that Oct 08 09:35:47 funnily I brought the sunshine with me when I was there Oct 08 09:36:07 I have started ... and using my drvr I can make a read and write. The device file is named as 'mynull' . Can i use fns like 'cfsetispeed', 'cfsetospeed ' ,'tcsetattr' etc by passing my own device file name? Oct 08 09:36:10 woglinde, I'm not automotive per-se; more like embedded div, which does auto Oct 08 09:36:34 panto are, but its mostly tegra or cannt you comment? Oct 08 09:36:58 sgr_: sorry, i have no clue what you are doing exactly. and i also dont have any knowledge how the kernel handles serial driver settings internally Oct 08 09:37:06 sgr_: read the kernel code and be enlightened Oct 08 09:37:41 * woglinde still wonders what sgr is really doing Oct 08 09:37:53 sgr_: alternatively, you can worship av500 and get enlightenment trough him Oct 08 09:38:11 av500 is the kernel serial maintainer? Oct 08 09:38:22 heavens, no Oct 08 09:38:24 no, but he enlightens people who worship him Oct 08 09:38:31 god, yes Oct 08 09:38:35 the pope of linux? Oct 08 09:38:38 usually with the light of one his gadgets Oct 08 09:38:40 :) Oct 08 09:38:49 I prefer this red hot poker Oct 08 09:41:22 hrhrhr Oct 08 09:41:25 how to get u-boot prompt in BBB? Oct 08 09:41:38 pokji: connect a serial cable. Oct 08 09:41:41 NEXT TICKET! Oct 08 09:42:02 woglinde, it's tegra mostly Oct 08 09:42:45 av500, are the bear of linux then? Oct 08 09:54:05 hello Oct 08 09:54:50 Instead of loading kernel image from eMMc, I want to load it from my tftp server in my host machine.Do you have any idea how to do it? Oct 08 09:55:12 hi pokji Oct 08 09:56:14 whr r u working? Oct 08 09:57:33 pokji ...u have any idea regarding serial drivers Oct 08 09:59:10 pokji: set up u-boot correctly, especially usb networking. besides that, everything is as usual. Oct 08 09:59:22 https://www.google.de/search?q=uboot+tftp Oct 08 09:59:34 LetoThe2nd: it works also from eth networking Oct 08 10:00:12 av500: yeah sure. trying hard not to mix up all those noetworkings ;) Oct 08 10:00:50 social networking Oct 08 10:01:08 hard, that one! Oct 08 10:03:27 hi i am working on arm922 board, when i was trying to load initramfs an error "attempting to kill init" was shown, why is this? Oct 08 10:03:59 sa_ no rootfs Oct 08 10:04:05 sa_: why should we care? in case you did not notice, this channel is about the BEAGLEBOARD family ;) Oct 08 10:04:44 somebody should make an arm922+AVR board Oct 08 10:05:24 av500: wouldn't it be the other way round? Oct 08 10:05:39 what is the remedy? Oct 08 10:05:39 like, an arm shield for arduinio? ;) Oct 08 10:06:13 h Oct 08 10:06:14 sa_: asking another channel? Oct 08 10:08:10 #obsoleteboard Oct 08 10:08:23 ... and why no fish? Oct 08 10:09:17 is futex has any importance on initramfs Oct 08 10:09:47 *popcorn* Oct 08 10:11:35 sa_, those questions usually end up in tears Oct 08 10:12:17 there's an uncertainty on whose though Oct 08 10:39:37 how the hell did they manage to fuck up Pachube/Cosm/Xively so badly Oct 08 10:39:58 this shit makes me want to stab someone in the balls Oct 08 10:40:44 Oct 08 10:44:09 Vaizki whats Pachube/Cosm/Xively? Oct 08 10:46:53 service that stores time series data for you.. you post sensor measurements etc to them and they generate graphs, alarms etv Oct 08 10:48:12 hm koen is now release manager Oct 08 10:48:42 Vaizki hm they do better than nagios? Oct 08 10:51:56 it's not like nagios, and it's a web service not a software package Oct 08 10:52:05 it's more like mrtg than nagios Oct 08 10:52:17 https://xively.com/feeds/98041 Oct 08 10:52:23 that's my home heating system stats Oct 08 10:53:41 but it used to be better Oct 08 10:54:06 they rebranded it, sold it to logmein and forgot about it ;) Oct 08 11:00:47 hm why do I need to expose my heating data to some strangers Oct 08 11:05:18 woglinde, they could hack into it and make you freeze in winter ... its all about the excitement :) Oct 08 11:18:08 Vaizki: and why dont you just use rrdtool, like everyone else? Oct 08 11:20:25 I do use it for some things but with all credit and kudos to tobi it's not really a great system for general purpose time series storage. there's for example no way to retrieve out exact stored values Oct 08 11:21:09 and I don't really use the graphing frontends of xively/cosm etc, I just used them to store data points and later fetch them as json arrays Oct 08 11:21:47 I guess I could build something like that on top of rrdtool but it would bug the hell out of me that I can't get the exact values back that I put in ;) Oct 08 11:22:27 yes, I also store the raw files from my digital photos and not just the jpegs.. I'm faulty like that. Oct 08 11:23:11 I also store the people I took photos off, if my files go bad, I can unthaw them and take the shot again Oct 08 11:23:20 ingenious Oct 08 11:23:49 Vaizki: writing your own time series storage is quite easy Oct 08 11:24:07 Vaizki: just look at mrtg, it's just couple lines of perl Oct 08 11:24:22 can anyone help me on how to get a wifi added to "beaglebone" Oct 08 11:24:32 lkm: 1) buy usb wifi dongle Oct 08 11:24:36 lkm: 2) plug in into the bbb Oct 08 11:24:39 lkm: 3) ... Oct 08 11:24:42 lkm: 4) profit Oct 08 11:26:34 KotH: yea I'd rather take something prerolled or contribute to an existing project .. and I don't want to host it myself. Oct 08 11:26:46 Vaizki: host it yourself? Oct 08 11:27:00 Vaizki: you've a bbb running, you dont need some external hoster to "host" it Oct 08 11:27:19 (whatever you exactly mean by "hosting" anyways) Oct 08 11:27:49 I don't want it running in my house, I'm actually collecting data from a number of locations Oct 08 11:28:05 my home internet is like crap :)( Oct 08 11:28:33 do you live in au/nz? Oct 08 12:17:57 KotH rrdtool makes no alarms Oct 08 12:19:24 Vaizki and yes rrd is made for forgetting values in past Oct 08 12:28:27 Hey all Oct 08 12:28:43 woglinde: yes. didnt see that requirement Oct 08 12:28:51 I'm trying to find a recent kernel for the BeagleBoard that actually works Oct 08 12:28:57 woglinde: but it's easy to use smnptrap for this purpose ;-) Oct 08 12:28:58 rspanton wow Oct 08 12:29:07 KotH ieeehks snmp Oct 08 12:29:08 e.g. something around the 3.7 to 3.11 mark... Oct 08 12:29:15 woglinde: *g* Oct 08 12:30:02 The mainline kernel doesn't turn out too well with the BeagleBoard at the moment, as it fails to initialise the pinmuxes for the console's serial port Oct 08 12:30:34 Anyone got a recent kernel working on a BeagleBoard? Oct 08 12:30:52 use koens kernel Oct 08 12:30:56 which is where Oct 08 12:31:08 do you mean this one? https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel Oct 08 12:31:09 somewhere on github, linked from beagleborad.org Oct 08 12:31:16 yes, that one Oct 08 12:31:23 already tried the various versions that provides. they all oops on boot Oct 08 12:31:43 rspanton: "does not work" is no error description Oct 08 12:32:05 KotH: indeed Oct 08 12:33:27 what I was hoping is that there'd be someone here who'd actually used one of them Oct 08 12:33:38 uhmm.. Oct 08 12:33:44 most people here use koens kernels Oct 08 12:33:46 so I could actually know that a specific version would work Oct 08 12:33:58 presumably most are using BeagleBoard-XMs or BeagleBones by now though? Oct 08 12:34:00 heck, even koen uses them Oct 08 12:34:19 hmm.. Oct 08 12:34:24 it should still work Oct 08 12:34:41 ok, well I'll come back shortly with the actual error Oct 08 12:34:54 can you pastebin the oops Oct 08 12:35:11 yea, just got to wrangle the right kernel into the right place... Oct 08 12:37:41 rspanton: koen> KotH: 3.2 is the least bad 3.x kernel for beagleboard Oct 08 12:45:06 woglinde: rrd does not just forget values in the past. Oct 08 12:45:17 it does not store exact values in the present either Oct 08 12:47:45 Vaizki: i'm quite sure there are tons of libraries for the purpose around Oct 08 12:48:01 Vaizki: probably even written for node.js too Oct 08 12:48:48 http://www.vandenbogaerdt.nl/rrdtool/process.php Oct 08 12:49:07 someone has explained how rrdtool works if anyone is still interested in my ranting :) Oct 08 12:49:21 KotH: I don't want node.js sorry.. :) Oct 08 12:49:38 http://freecode.com/search?q=time+series&submit=Search Oct 08 12:50:29 * KotH files that for later reading Oct 08 12:50:43 * KotH should be doing something there is no way he finish in time Oct 08 12:56:52 Vaizki *sigh* Oct 08 12:57:21 Vaizki I looked long enough on it and I know how it works Oct 08 12:57:42 and I missuse it to store userevents Oct 08 12:58:16 and I wonder what accurancy you need for heating data Oct 08 12:58:42 0.001°C Oct 08 12:59:20 at least the last guy i talked to about controling temperature used that resolution to measure Oct 08 12:59:45 KotH I meant time accurancy Oct 08 13:00:30 KotH: ok, 3.11 using koen's kernel on BeagleBoard: this provides early printk output, but the console doesn't work after switching out of early printk Oct 08 13:02:44 (boot output here: http://pastebin.com/9fxE8WbQ) Oct 08 13:03:22 this is the same problem as mainline Oct 08 13:03:39 and I believe the line "omap_uart serial.7: could not find pctldev for node /ocp/pinmux@48002030/pinmux_uart3_pins, deferring probe" is a symptom of this problem Oct 08 13:15:45 woglinde: 1ns is easy to measure Oct 08 13:15:47 :) Oct 08 13:16:32 rspanton: i dont see any oops Oct 08 13:16:51 KotH: sorry, they don't all oops -- I chose 3.11 this time, and that does the same as mainline Oct 08 13:17:07 I'm now rebuilding 3.8 from koen's repo Oct 08 13:17:28 rspanton: as i've written above, koen recommended 3.2 Oct 08 13:17:52 KotH: oh, did you? Sorry, I missed that Oct 08 13:18:14 possibly happened when my internet disconnected Oct 08 13:18:19 14:36 < koen> KotH: 3.2 is the least bad 3.x kernel for beagleboard Oct 08 13:18:23 rspanton: ^^^^^ Oct 08 13:19:05 yea, I didn't get that. was around the time I disappeared and reappeared in the channel Oct 08 13:19:07 thanks anyway Oct 08 13:19:10 I'll try 3.2 now then Oct 08 13:31:36 koth 3.2 is the last with sgx driver Oct 08 13:31:55 KotH: yea, the 3.2 kernel results in an oops: http://pastebin.com/AiN6m7jM Oct 08 13:31:59 ah and yes beagle Oct 08 13:32:04 not bone Oct 08 13:32:19 beagle slowly see his rotten end Oct 08 13:33:19 rspanton hm gcc-4.8 is the problem here Oct 08 13:33:34 woglinde: oh? Oct 08 13:33:34 3.2 has no backports for the misscompile errors Oct 08 13:33:39 right Oct 08 13:33:48 another beer Oct 08 13:33:52 for me Oct 08 13:33:54 woglinde: what version compiler do you think I should use? Oct 08 13:33:56 woglinde: :) Oct 08 13:34:02 4.6 should work Oct 08 13:37:35 woglinde: do you have any ideas about why 3.11 isn't working? Oct 08 13:38:47 rspanton -> 15:32 < woglinde> beagle slowly see his rotten end Oct 08 13:38:52 lol Oct 08 13:39:06 heh Oct 08 13:39:13 we've got 80 of them... Oct 08 13:39:21 switching to BeagleBone Black next year... Oct 08 13:40:13 so stay with 3.2 Oct 08 13:40:17 or fix mainline kernel Oct 08 13:40:26 yea, I'm working on getting 3.2 now Oct 08 13:40:34 unfortunately we're shipping this week ;) Oct 08 13:40:39 *hint* TI let most of omap3 people go Oct 08 13:40:53 and beagle is toy Oct 08 13:40:59 no buisness Oct 08 13:41:13 hmm, I know businesses using the bone... Oct 08 13:45:50 rspanton: i know busineses that make money with toys Oct 08 13:47:08 rspanton than get support from TI Oct 08 13:48:55 yea, I think they do. or maybe it's circuit co Oct 08 14:03:07 does 3.2 work with the bbb? or vice versa? Oct 08 14:06:25 not sure about the bbb but the classic was not mass production ready, particularly in the area of emissions from the video port Oct 08 14:06:58 was a great springboard though Oct 08 14:15:55 thurgood 3.2 is not good for bbb Oct 08 14:16:44 'k didn't think so but figured I'd ask Oct 08 14:16:51 thanks Oct 08 14:19:06 Hello People Oct 08 14:19:57 ok, 3.2 now gets further when being built with gcc 4.7 (I thought I'd try 4.7, since it was straightforward for me to get my hands on it) Oct 08 14:20:15 but MMC support isn't working, so it doesn't get much further... Oct 08 14:37:57 [kernel] jkkm opened pull request #65: fix thinko in 0008-OF-Introduce-DT-overlay-support.patch (3.11...3.11) http://git.io/_7sUhw Oct 08 14:38:35 [kernel] jkkm opened pull request #66: fix thinko in 0008-OF-Introduce-DT-overlay-support.patch (3.12...3.12) http://git.io/3h-agw Oct 08 14:43:31 I use debian-wheezy . Install x-window-system. while trying to execute the project compiled with Qt return " error while loading shared libraries: libpng16.so.16" I search on google find this link and it's can't help me. http://mentors.debian.net/package/libpng . Do you have any idea? Oct 08 14:43:55 I try run on bbb Oct 08 15:08:30 Can Beaglebone Black play 720p and 1080p mp4 movies? Oct 08 15:08:37 no. Oct 08 15:09:04 but even asking that question probably took longer than googling would have. Oct 08 15:09:06 can you say me what is a "max" resolution? Oct 08 15:09:26 I'm googling Oct 08 15:09:40 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/4vge3Zs8dYE Oct 08 15:09:55 and I have tried to play 720p on bbb with android Oct 08 15:10:00 but it's little lag Oct 08 15:29:46 hi! Oct 08 15:30:37 LordDVG: its not about resolution Oct 08 15:31:00 just got a new BBB, plugged it in, it seems to boot, but there is no output on hdmi... i guess, it's not a problem with the cable, on the other BBB, it is working fine Oct 08 15:36:07 is this a common problem? later i'll attach a serial port to get some more information Oct 08 15:38:28 Rotti, what is your power supply Oct 08 15:45:02 anchor compile against a wheezy system not random host stuff Oct 08 19:40:10 Can you use c++ to code the beagles bone black for use as a control unit for an autonomous quadcopter? Oct 08 19:41:32 <_av500_> CPU runs SW Oct 08 19:41:38 <_av500_> so yes Oct 08 19:41:57 film at 11 Oct 08 19:42:16 <_av500_> unless the quad crashes Oct 08 19:42:36 in case of which there will be a breaking news bulletin Oct 08 19:45:54 is there a guide somewhere because from what I understand of the board you boot into its OS(ubuntu etc.), create code using the command line?, then mount the code. Oct 08 19:47:30 Sammybob: it's just a computer and you can write programs for it just like other computers Oct 08 19:48:27 for a copter you might want to make use of the PRU, which is well documented Oct 08 19:49:13 okay thanks Oct 08 19:49:52 <_av500_> Sammybob: note that running a quad control from a linux user space programm might not be the best way Oct 08 19:50:20 <_av500_> if you plan on doing the actual motor control Oct 08 19:51:21 the motors will be controlled by a separate board Oct 08 21:16:04 howdy Oct 08 21:16:31 <_av500_> pardner Oct 08 21:36:49 spaceweather.com has posted a juno update and tracking info. Oct 08 21:37:03 looks like it will pass from east to west over the central US Oct 08 21:38:50 wrong group but someone may be interested ;) Oct 08 21:39:03 :) Oct 08 22:50:41 hrm. think i bricked a bbblack ... serial console only outputs "CCCCCCCC" every time it's reset Oct 08 22:51:41 the ethernet link lights are on... and theres a blue led near the 5v ... but the 4 leds don't blink at all Oct 08 22:53:50 try wiggling the uHDMI connector Oct 08 22:56:43 the connector is pretty firmly connected to the board Oct 08 22:58:02 I had some interference issues between my uHDMI cable and the USB cable, a slight bit of fussing with it cleared up the problem. also btw I have board REV A5B Oct 08 23:03:10 i had just plugged in a microsd card... must have... hit something. ugh. Oct 08 23:25:31 so no hope to getting orcad symbols for am3359 Oct 08 23:26:18 great altium symbols are available Oct 08 23:56:52 for orcad you can draw your own symbols Oct 09 00:47:40 this conversation is very lively and interesting Oct 09 00:48:02 * N2TOH only hears crickets Oct 09 00:48:10 * TehCaptain was kidding Oct 09 00:48:26 * N2TOH me too **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 09 02:59:58 2013