**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 23 02:59:58 2013 Oct 23 04:00:15 My beagleboard xm has no video output. HDMI monitor 720p and 1080i, linux 3.3.7 what should I put in uEnv.txt Oct 23 05:10:36 <_av500_> 3.3.7? Oct 23 05:10:42 <_av500_> is that the default image? Oct 23 05:24:21 I want to make a keypad by using PCA9555 IC, its INT pin is connected to a GPIO pin of BBB. When ever having a button pressed, the INT PIN's signal changes from H to L Oct 23 05:29:10 I want to make a keypad by using PCA9555 IC, its INT pin is connected to a GPIO pin of BBB. When ever having a button pressed, the INT PIN's signal changes from H to L. How can I program on BBB for interrupt routine Oct 23 05:36:21 <_av500_> from user space once can setup GPIO polling Oct 23 05:36:26 <_av500_> one* Oct 23 05:36:42 <_av500_> if you really need low latency, you'll have to write a kernel driver Oct 23 05:37:12 <_av500_> https://www.google.com/search?q=pca9555+linux Oct 23 05:37:21 <_av500_> also, you are not the first Oct 23 05:38:04 <_av500_> so, somebody wrote that driver for you Oct 23 05:39:09 <_av500_> a solution using platform data you would need to convert to DT Oct 23 05:39:18 <_av500_> if using a recent kernel Oct 23 05:43:56 I'm a newbie to linux os, would you explain what does "convert to DT" mean? Oct 23 05:45:43 <_av500_> http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_and_the_3.8_Kernel Oct 23 05:45:49 <_av500_> read that for some background info Oct 23 05:46:08 <_av500_> for a proof of concept you might just write a userspace polling driver Oct 23 05:47:41 <_av500_> so, adding this PC9555 as "GPIO" has been done, making it a keyboard driver requires more work Oct 23 05:48:25 <_av500_> also: https://www.google.com/search?q=gpio+interrupt+user+space Oct 23 05:56:00 Thanks so much! I'll read it and try. ah, Can I program with PRU for interrupting Oct 23 05:57:22 <_av500_> you can use the PRU as well for that Oct 23 05:57:38 <_av500_> run the whole kbd handling on the PRU and pass data to the kernel Oct 23 05:57:48 ewwwwwwwwwwwwww userspace Oct 23 05:57:51 yuck Oct 23 05:57:56 blah Oct 23 06:00:22 prussdrv_exec_program (PRU_NUM, "/home/root/blink/blink.bin"); this line will make .bin file executed on PRU, after that ARM c code will wait for the Halt Oct 23 06:02:12 so that stops the program and waits until a halt responded Oct 23 06:04:37 the thing I want is that the program can run and whenever a interrupt occured it will call the interrupt routine Oct 23 06:05:15 is that possible with PRU Oct 23 06:06:17 <_av500_> PRU and arm run independently Oct 23 06:07:59 But after hitting the halt line PRU will stop Oct 23 06:19:51 <_av500_> ? Oct 23 06:19:56 <_av500_> in that one example maybe Oct 23 06:21:59 can you give me the demo code of interrupt in PRU Oct 23 06:22:22 c code assembly code Oct 23 06:22:41 <_av500_> no Oct 23 06:22:45 <_av500_> never did PRU code Oct 23 06:22:51 <_av500_> but "the internet" did Oct 23 06:23:05 <_av500_> and the NSA and google took notes Oct 23 06:23:06 :D Oct 23 06:24:57 ok I do find it :D Oct 23 06:27:45 thanks so much again! Oct 23 06:49:36 Hey Guys, so i had a problem about formatting the emmc yesterday, i figured it out! i was directly trying to modify the contents of the mmblk which is wrong i guess, so if i mount a folder like mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 Angstrom and then untar my contenrs to Angstrom, it does the job. thanks for the help. and Hope it Helps if anyone is stuck with the same problem :) Oct 23 06:57:12 Hello I have a problem, my wifi Settings does not turn ON in my beaglebone black with Android OS-JB. Can you help me please? Oct 23 07:00:32 <_av500_> i'm not sure the Android images support wifi Oct 23 07:11:34 my image takes 10 mins to boot :/ any way to bring down the boot time? the Stock Image boots in about 1min, i'v seen ppl having like 10-20secs too. Oct 23 07:12:12 <_av500_> how does your image differ from stock? Oct 23 07:16:10 av500 maybee he has android too Oct 23 07:16:15 gm av500 Oct 23 07:16:25 how is the weather in scottland? Oct 23 07:16:52 Removed GNOMEUI Cloud9, NodeJS and some other samll things, added gstreamer1.0 and plugins, lighttpd, v4l2utils Oct 23 07:17:28 Andy_RZ2 use the systemd tools to find out what takes so long Oct 23 07:19:41 <_av500_> woglinde: I am in Shenzhen Oct 23 07:21:15 wo a ni! Oct 23 07:21:57 <_av500_> mahlzeit Oct 23 07:23:07 systemd-tools is a package? how do i access it? Oct 23 07:27:58 _av500_ hm ah so weather should be the same Oct 23 07:28:09 Andy_RZ2 opkg update Oct 23 07:28:12 opkg install Oct 23 07:28:42 opkg list | grep systemd Oct 23 07:31:05 <_av500_> woglinde: its about 25 degrees here Oct 23 07:32:08 hehe okay Oct 23 07:37:09 angstrom distribution packages dosn't show systemd-tools in the list there :? Oct 23 07:37:37 Andy_RZ2 which version of systemd the cloud image has? Oct 23 07:38:27 andy_rz cannt you just simple call systemd-analyze blame? Oct 23 07:42:53 good morning! Oct 23 07:44:56 jo rotti Oct 23 07:49:32 the one I baked its systemd - 1:206-r1.0 Oct 23 07:50:19 okay it should havr systemd-analyze Oct 23 07:51:16 even after 30mins it says systemd-analyze says " Bootup is not yet finished. Please try again later." Oct 23 07:52:46 lol Oct 23 07:53:07 hm Oct 23 07:53:18 try disable some services you do not need Oct 23 07:53:21 and start again Oct 23 07:53:42 thats maybee try and error now, to get the offending service identify Oct 23 07:54:19 <_av500_> I blame /bin/init Oct 23 07:56:58 no no Oct 23 07:57:28 <_av500_> it starts all kind of crap Oct 23 08:00:12 hello i have problem with my Beaglebone Black that its users LEDs are not lightning,only power led is ON any ideas? Oct 23 08:00:33 bieka: what are you tring to do? Oct 23 08:00:43 does it boot, bieka, or just nothing? Oct 23 08:03:15 it not booting only power led is ON all other are off and USB drive is not shown Oct 23 08:03:18 but bin/init dosnt exist for me :O Oct 23 08:04:39 sbin/init exists! but well how will that help? :O Oct 23 08:07:26 it not booting only power led is ON all other are off and USB drive is not shown Oct 23 08:08:30 there are total 65Tasks running :O can i bring that down modifying a startup paramerer somewhere..which i need to find :/ Oct 23 08:09:49 Andy_RZ2 get famliar with start skripts of systemd and than test with try and errror until you find the offending service Oct 23 08:11:45 Yes Sir! Thanks for the Advice :) Oct 23 08:12:05 any idea with with BB Black user leds are not Power ON? Oct 23 08:12:14 is it possibile to set an "userspace interrupt" (don't know what it's called) for gpio pins calling gpio_request_one() from a kernel module? (sth like "echo falling > /sys/class/gpio/gpio66/edge") Oct 23 08:15:03 Rotti any idea for the user led not working? and not booting? Oct 23 08:16:57 <_av500_> try to reflash it Oct 23 08:17:00 <_av500_> using an sd card Oct 23 08:18:16 by insert the proper image sd card and pressing the boot button on beagle bone black? Oct 23 08:18:50 <_av500_> yes Oct 23 08:20:39 @_av500_ its seems nothing wrong i have done. could it be severe problem that only power LED is ON? Oct 23 08:21:18 <_av500_> unlikely Oct 23 08:21:24 <_av500_> connect a serial cable and see Oct 23 08:21:38 <_av500_> so far the most severe errors were user errors Oct 23 08:24:17 which type of serial cable i should use the ship one or any other @_av500_? Oct 23 08:25:12 <_av500_> ? Oct 23 08:25:21 <_av500_> it does not ship with a serial cable Oct 23 08:25:53 oh yes it is usb cable. sorry for misunderstanding Oct 23 08:26:06 where to connect the serial cable Oct 23 08:26:25 <_av500_> 6pin header Oct 23 08:26:28 <_av500_> read the SRM Oct 23 08:29:06 thanks @_av500_ for the help. i am very new to BB so i need many helps . is this serial cable is same as RS-232 cable? Oct 23 08:29:44 <_av500_> yes Oct 23 08:30:30 Hello, I was asking about a linux book if it will work programming with beaglebone black not looking about or the book is outdated "Beginning Linux Programming, 4th Edition". But it will work on raspberry pi also? Oct 23 08:30:38 I guess that 10mins boot time was because it was first boot. after shutting down and powering up in like 5mins, now it boots up in 20secs. i guess thats good enough, but, systemd-analyze still says Bootup is not yet finished. Please try again later. , Oct 23 08:34:05 not a question about distro Oct 23 08:34:18 just about hardware Oct 23 08:34:25 <_av500_> linux is linux Oct 23 08:34:42 arm Oct 23 08:34:53 doesn't matter? Oct 23 08:34:58 <_av500_> what? Oct 23 08:35:04 that is arm linux Oct 23 08:35:06 <_av500_> linux on arm is linux Oct 23 08:36:02 it is not different because c++ is higher level language not asm that is different on x86? Oct 23 08:36:26 just linux and thats all? Oct 23 08:36:27 <_av500_> yes and no Oct 23 08:36:33 <_av500_> it all depends Oct 23 08:36:49 but the book will work? Oct 23 08:36:55 <_av500_> I doubt you will start your linux epxerience with asm programming Oct 23 08:37:00 <_av500_> books dont work Oct 23 08:37:06 yes I have the book on asm too Oct 23 08:37:15 I mean it will teach Oct 23 08:37:21 <_av500_> yes Oct 23 08:37:25 ok Oct 23 08:37:59 I mean thanks Oct 23 08:38:01 av500: are you not at ELCE ? Oct 23 08:38:47 anyway it will work on desktop Oct 23 08:39:19 <_av500_> das: nope, sadly not Oct 23 08:39:22 <_av500_> im in china Oct 23 08:40:45 _av500_: ah alright ... you move around a lot ! Oct 23 08:41:27 hi all! just a short question about BBB. is it possible to completly disable sd card booting? Oct 23 08:41:36 <_av500_> sure Oct 23 08:41:41 <_av500_> pry the sd slot off Oct 23 08:41:54 <_av500_> r glue it shut Oct 23 08:41:56 <_av500_> or Oct 23 08:42:46 _av500_: U so funni Oct 23 08:43:02 hehe, and without hw mods? :) Oct 23 08:43:38 <_av500_> with SW mods? Oct 23 08:43:44 <_av500_> SW that runs *after* you boot? Oct 23 08:43:47 <_av500_> well no Oct 23 08:44:14 <_av500_> if you have a valid sd card and boot with the button pressed it will boot from SD Oct 23 08:44:40 <_av500_> no BIOs that stores a boot mode for you Oct 23 08:44:57 you could replace the eMMC with NAND and build a kernel without MMC support :) Oct 23 08:45:16 it's not the kernel that boots from sd card Oct 23 08:45:29 that's what av500 tries to tell Oct 23 08:45:54 oh, right, you would have to hack uboot Oct 23 08:46:16 <_av500_> yes, replace it with /dev/random Oct 23 08:46:25 <_av500_> that wont boot for sure Oct 23 08:46:40 *sigh* Oct 23 08:46:41 heh Oct 23 08:46:57 ogra_: and where is u-boot being stored at? Oct 23 08:47:21 <_av500_> Warehouse 13 Oct 23 08:47:26 KotH, in the NAND that you soldered in in my above suggestion indeed ;) Oct 23 08:47:52 ^^' Oct 23 08:48:09 (though i like _av500_'s suggestion better) Oct 23 08:48:10 * KotH takes a few printed copies of the TRM and throws it at random people Oct 23 08:48:20 i just want to put the os on the emmc, and prevent someone to brose emmc's file without having an account Oct 23 08:48:25 <_av500_> KotH: I prefer copies cast in stone Oct 23 08:48:42 <_av500_> aphex: remove the sd slot Oct 23 08:48:45 <_av500_> or the boot button Oct 23 08:49:18 that wont prevent people that are logged in from browsing the eMMC though Oct 23 08:49:33 <_av500_> but logged in users are good Oct 23 08:49:35 * ogra_ wonders what that req has to do with SD cards Oct 23 08:49:39 if someone is dedicated enough will resolder the button/slot as well :) Oct 23 08:49:41 <_av500_> evil are unlogged Oct 23 08:49:46 aphex: alternatively you can pot the whole thing in epoxy or cement Oct 23 08:50:01 <_av500_> and depleted uranium Oct 23 08:50:15 KotH: epoxy rules :) Oct 23 08:50:19 or a case with proprietary screws Oct 23 08:50:33 (the apple way) Oct 23 08:50:37 <_av500_> yes Oct 23 08:50:46 <_av500_> use left-hand screws Oct 23 08:50:54 :D Oct 23 08:51:01 no, the apple way is to make a really nice looking design, and not care about anyone who wants to use it Oct 23 08:51:22 LOL Oct 23 08:51:42 KotH: you, sir, win 3 internets. Oct 23 08:52:54 so if i power it up this is the first line Oct 23 08:52:55 U-Boot SPL 2013.04-dirty (Jun 19 2013 - 09:57:14) Oct 23 08:53:06 <_av500_> yes Oct 23 08:53:12 another canadian hit and run Oct 23 08:53:29 i guess uboot is responsible to check sdcard and emmc for os Oct 23 08:54:24 it must be stored in the emmc since it looks the same if i unplug sdcard Oct 23 08:55:09 <_av500_> no Oct 23 08:55:21 <_av500_> the BIOS checks SD and emmc Oct 23 08:55:27 <_av500_> and other boot modes Oct 23 08:55:49 <_av500_> it could be that emmc uboot still loads kernel from sd if present Oct 23 08:55:55 <_av500_> that can be fixed of course Oct 23 08:56:05 <_av500_> but the BIOS will still boot from sd if card+button Oct 23 08:56:08 hi koth Oct 23 08:56:08 and no way to edit the bios right? Oct 23 08:56:32 <_av500_> with a fine needle and a steady hand, yes Oct 23 08:59:35 okay i see, thank you mates! Oct 23 09:58:05 damn gnome3... -.- Oct 23 10:43:06 <_av500_> wait for gnome4 Oct 23 10:46:27 I have my beaglebone up and running Oct 23 10:46:43 but I can't ssh into it over v6 Oct 23 10:47:11 and my v4 is behind a NAT so I can't ssh into that from any other host Oct 23 10:47:23 (other than those behind the same NAT) Oct 23 10:48:13 ~. Oct 23 10:49:01 <_av500_> #firstworldproblems Oct 23 10:50:39 at that rate it is speculated that gnome 4 will simply be wrapper for hello world Oct 23 10:54:08 _av500_: was that directed at me? Oct 23 10:54:26 this is the default (latest) Angstrom OS Oct 23 11:10:32 graingert portforwarding Oct 23 11:10:52 woglinde: my ISP has now disabled my IPv4 Oct 23 11:30:36 * mranostay trolls in Oct 23 11:30:41 * mranostay trolls KotH Oct 23 11:30:49 graingert lol Oct 23 11:30:55 hi mranostay Oct 23 11:32:00 hi woglinde Oct 23 11:33:40 * KotH trolls mranostay out again Oct 23 11:35:59 KotH: bite me Oct 23 11:36:11 through Russ Oct 23 12:18:04 Hi Oct 23 12:18:13 I have a question in BBB Oct 23 12:18:21 can anyone help me out with it? Oct 23 12:19:06 I am using Beaglebone black (BBB) and for some specific reasons I need to connect it to an external high speed ADC (more than 30 MHZ and maximum about 100 MHz) . I am thinking to connect the parallel output data of the ADC board to the GPIO pins of BBB and read-store the data. I see in the catalogue that it is possible to directly access to the GPIO pins by the processor (AM335x). I wonder if it is possible to read the ADC data Oct 23 12:19:44 and dont loss the data Oct 23 12:20:05 is it possible to access GPIO and read the data by the speed of minimum 30 MHZ? Oct 23 12:22:08 the PRU *might* be able to do it. Oct 23 12:22:34 then forward-feed to the main core. Oct 23 12:25:19 sorry.. what PRU means here? Oct 23 12:25:35 * LetoThe2nd has to go afk, sorry. Oct 23 12:25:49 but beaglebone black pru can be easily googled after all. Oct 23 12:26:44 <_av500_> Guest33629: you can hook up the AD to the GPIOs, but you cannot read 100MHz from user space Oct 23 12:26:57 <_av500_> in fact, I dount the GPIOs can read even 10MHz Oct 23 12:27:05 <_av500_> have a look at GPMC Oct 23 12:27:17 Ok I will so.. Oct 23 12:27:36 <_av500_> the GPMC bus is brought out on the BBB so you can read from your AD like from memory with DMA Oct 23 12:27:51 <_av500_> the camera cape uses GPMC too, you might look at the schematics Oct 23 12:28:30 okey .. but without using GPMC is not an option? I mean directly and by software? Oct 23 12:28:43 <_av500_> not an option Oct 23 12:28:53 <_av500_> you cannot poll GPIOs at 100mhz speed Oct 23 12:29:10 okey.. so the maximum speed is limited to the maximum speed of GPMC Oct 23 12:29:30 to me 30 MHZ is also fine Oct 23 12:31:22 <_av500_> you cannot poll GPIOs at 30mhz speedeither Oct 23 12:31:31 <_av500_> you might be able with the PRUs Oct 23 12:31:43 <_av500_> but setting up a GPMC DMA might be way easier Oct 23 12:33:09 okey .. thanks alot Oct 23 12:34:35 I would definitely do it with a PRU Oct 23 12:34:57 of course that's a whole new world to learn but such is life Oct 23 12:36:12 yes, it looks difficult Oct 23 12:36:27 but you belive with PRU I can achieve the 30 MHZ speed? Oct 23 12:36:36 and I can store the data without losing? Oct 23 12:37:38 well PRU runs at 200MHZ with a constant 5ns per instruction Oct 23 12:38:02 which makes it nice for real-time apps as you can count right away from your assembler how long things take Oct 23 12:38:54 but I guess some instructions will take more time than that.. but basically you can share memory between the PRU and the linux user space Oct 23 12:39:22 that way the PRU can collect ADC data into memory and and the linux userspace process can collect it from there Oct 23 12:40:09 the PRU has all kinds of fancy peripherals etc but I'm not sure how the pins are brought out on the BBB Oct 23 12:40:34 what are you building, an oscilloscope? :) Oct 23 12:40:44 no not a scope Oct 23 12:40:53 I am placing one data storage system Oct 23 12:40:58 in a student rocket Oct 23 12:41:03 to collect radio anetanna signal Oct 23 12:41:08 as a stand alone Oct 23 12:41:10 board Oct 23 12:41:18 during a 4 minutes of flight Oct 23 12:41:21 radio antenna signal? you mean like SDR? Oct 23 12:41:28 yes Oct 23 12:41:44 so the size of electronics are limited Oct 23 12:41:51 and thats why I go for BBB Oct 23 12:42:01 because its very small enough Oct 23 12:42:23 So I need to check out PRU pins if they are connected to GPIOs Oct 23 12:42:28 right? Oct 23 12:42:55 I think best is to google for some examples first of all Oct 23 12:43:00 how wide is the ADC bus? Oct 23 12:43:25 8 bits of the paralle output Oct 23 12:43:26 woglinde: port forwarding is not really possible because NAT is evil Oct 23 12:43:44 woglinde: and I want to run some software under the don't be evil license Oct 23 12:44:32 Guest33629: at 100MHz sampling you are looking at something like 24GB of data in 4 minutes Oct 23 12:45:11 yes yes you are right but I have to reduce the size of data by getting average (FFT) Oct 23 12:45:19 before saving Oct 23 12:45:41 which takes some instructions as well Oct 23 12:46:43 and you can't find a SPI-capable ADC to do the sampling? Oct 23 12:47:09 SPI will limit the speed Oct 23 12:47:20 it is slow, is not it? Oct 23 12:49:22 hmmh yea I guess it can't cut it Oct 23 12:49:29 http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/08/04/bbb--high-speed-data-acquisition-and-web-based-ui Oct 23 12:49:36 that's what you want to do then ;) Oct 23 12:50:24 thanks! I have seen tis before Oct 23 12:50:38 it's speed is also limited by 1 MHz Oct 23 12:50:40 but if you are doing software defined radio, why not get a RTL tv tuner and run gnuradio or something Oct 23 12:50:43 at least in this experiment Oct 23 12:51:03 I was not sure if it will be the same to have a higher speed as mine ... Oct 23 12:53:15 what about using am335x own ADC with IIO= Oct 23 12:54:13 haha 8Ks/s Oct 23 12:54:15 ok sorry Oct 23 12:54:22 the own ADC of the am335x has alos KHz range Oct 23 12:54:30 oh yeah you have mentioned that .. Oct 23 12:54:32 :D Oct 23 12:55:09 Vaizki, sorry I need to go now. Oct 23 12:55:14 thanks for all the info Oct 23 12:55:18 try ##rtlsdr Oct 23 12:55:23 I hope PRU can solve my problem Oct 23 12:55:32 if you want to investigate BBB + USB tv stick path Oct 23 12:55:58 thanks for all Oct 23 12:56:09 hope to talk to you later Oct 23 12:56:11 bye Oct 23 14:45:16 For some reason my BBB won't power up, tried different barrel plugs and usb cables and i am certain it is the board. It was working fine last time I used it, not sure what happened, should I assume it's completely dead or is there anything else I can try? Oct 23 14:47:55 do the LEDs come on at all? Oct 23 14:48:29 Nope, no LEDs Oct 23 14:49:16 try preparing a micro-sd card with a known good image Oct 23 14:50:29 dm8tbr: Will give that a try, last OS I installed on the SD card was an OpenBSD snapshot, I hope that didn't somehow damage the hardware Oct 23 14:55:27 <_av500_> BSDs tend to do that to HW Oct 23 14:55:35 <_av500_> or was it BDSM? Oct 23 16:47:09 Anyone can help me with GPIO interrupt Oct 23 16:49:13 in linux kernel 3.8 I can not find Oct 23 16:50:11 how can progam the interrupt handle when a event occurs Oct 23 16:54:42 use git log, to find out Oct 23 16:56:11 clearer Oct 23 17:00:21 // commented out example of a touchscreen (taken from BB-BONE-LCD7-01-00A4) */ // maxtouch@4a { // compatible = "mXT224"; // reg = <0x4a>; // interrupt-parent = <&gpio4>; // interrupts = <19 0x0>; // atmel,irq-gpio = <&gpio4 19 0>; Oct 23 17:02:12 If I declare like above, how can I program for the interrupt handler function to catch the event Oct 23 19:13:25 Afternoon. Oct 23 19:14:03 Trying to get ubuntu to run on eMMC of the bbb, but it's not writing. I can get angstrom back on there, but not ubuntu. Oct 23 19:14:26 And now my eth2 on my mint 15 linux host isn't coming online when I plug in the bbb. Oct 23 23:16:25 Are there plans for a OMAP4 version of the device to come out soon ? Oct 23 23:18:21 not heard anything Oct 23 23:18:37 google didn't result in anything either Oct 23 23:18:54 not sure it's particularly needed, it's not a $600 phone it's a $45 embedded linux board Oct 23 23:19:02 I'd like to do DSP stuff with it so it's performance driven Oct 23 23:19:18 Well, depends on the application Oct 23 23:19:30 sure, there are things that require more CPU than the BBB. Oct 23 23:19:35 It's got a relatively fat graphic chip Oct 23 23:19:44 thus faster options are around Oct 23 23:19:54 so it's just on the cusp of doing some really interesting things Oct 23 23:20:17 it being single core is ok but it makes it hard to program if you're not some crazy kernel dude like me Oct 23 23:20:26 especial if it's real-time or performance related Oct 23 23:20:41 more cores for me the better Oct 24 01:19:25 hello Oct 24 01:19:36 i have a quick question Oct 24 01:19:45 can anyone help me Oct 24 01:20:09 works best to just ask Oct 24 01:32:26 ah Oct 24 01:32:33 * Biodragon slaps Rickta59 Oct 24 01:32:36 now we'll never know Oct 24 01:34:43 does anyone know a cost-effective non-usb wifi cape for BBB? Oct 24 01:37:27 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271272189722?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 Oct 24 01:38:40 wow, that's nuts. Oct 24 01:41:30 hmm usb though? Oct 24 01:45:04 No Oct 24 01:45:27 Connect it to ethernet, and it presents as a wifi bridge to connect you to APs Oct 24 01:57:06 SpeedEvil: thx :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 24 02:59:58 2013