**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 25 02:59:58 2013 Nov 25 03:19:31 why is there no omapfb driver on ubuntu 13.04 for the bone? Nov 25 03:35:41 trip9: because most hardware platforms are moving away from framebuffer in favor of other direct rendering interfaces Nov 25 03:36:46 but the bone doesn't have anything now :( Nov 25 03:37:11 trip9: i am sorry i did not understand your statement Nov 25 03:38:59 no worries. Nov 25 03:39:28 i'm just depressed. I'm testing Qt5/QML on the bone with depressing results. Nov 25 03:39:43 trip9: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DRM/ Nov 25 04:10:35 Operating temperature of Beagle Bone Black Nov 25 04:47:35 <_av500_> mine is lukewarm Nov 25 06:13:04 a Nov 25 06:14:10 b Nov 25 06:17:22 hello? Nov 25 06:17:32 Yes, hello Nov 25 06:17:37 May I take your order? Nov 25 06:17:56 Actually I need some help for my bbb project Nov 25 06:18:50 I'm using TFT proto 320 x 240 LCD display that connect with bbb through 16 bits parallel data lines Nov 25 06:19:17 and just looking for some driver that supports this display. Nov 25 06:22:02 You'll have to wait for someone else, I'm afraid Nov 25 06:23:24 No, just come here to get some hlep.. Nov 25 06:23:35 Oh, ok. Nov 25 06:37:21 <_av500_> Kim___: there are various LCD capes for the BBB Nov 25 06:37:37 <_av500_> see how they are set up and tweak that for your display Nov 25 06:37:49 <_av500_> basically you only need to adapt the resolution and timing Nov 25 08:01:53 [kernel] anithamol opened pull request #76: Added camera cape support for Beaglebone Black (3.8...3.8) http://git.io/A3G6MQ Nov 25 09:11:57 hi Nov 25 09:13:22 which is the fastest one board and which offers the possibility to do many things, such as hardware and software ? Nov 25 09:13:36 ? Nov 25 09:13:52 the beagleboard black allows you to do many things Nov 25 09:13:53 natsukao_: googleboard Nov 25 09:14:01 for example to add another ethernet, or a module wi-fi, or a lcd Nov 25 09:14:07 sure Nov 25 09:14:14 ethernet and wifi over USB Nov 25 09:14:19 LCD on the expansion pins Nov 25 09:14:26 not over usb Nov 25 09:14:41 on the pins of the board Nov 25 09:16:04 which is the hardware difference between rasperry and bb ? Nov 25 09:16:37 and why the first one is having so much success between people ? Nov 25 09:17:12 better marketing Nov 25 09:17:19 It seems that can be used for Tor network, can do the same bb ? Nov 25 09:17:22 rpi: slow cpu, HD video Nov 25 09:17:28 bbb: fast CPU, no HD video Nov 25 09:17:43 any computer with networking can be used for TOR Nov 25 09:17:44 so is only marketing Nov 25 09:18:01 i could not imagine it Nov 25 09:18:21 one friend speaked to me about b Nov 25 09:19:51 anyway thank you for your help Nov 25 09:20:35 thank you @av500 and Vaizki_ Nov 25 09:21:15 where is possible to uy it ? Nov 25 09:21:22 to buy it ? Nov 25 09:21:32 i live in Europe, Rome Nov 25 09:21:32 depends Nov 25 09:22:06 http://www.conrad.it/ce/it/product/409907/ Nov 25 09:22:13 also digikey Nov 25 09:25:41 i saw it Nov 25 09:25:45 a good price Nov 25 09:27:55 why a little dog in picture ? Nov 25 09:28:30 dogs like bones Nov 25 09:28:57 https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=beagle&tbs=imgo:1 Nov 25 09:29:17 :-) Nov 25 09:30:11 anyway, i would like to know if is possible to add a slot for SD or micro SD Nov 25 09:30:44 already has a slot, please read the description on the page Nov 25 09:31:38 it was not clear in the picture, excuse me Nov 25 09:31:43 i saw then it Nov 25 09:31:50 hi guys! Angstrom is working so far but over the weekend I read a bit about buildroot and really like the concept. just wondering how far the BBB is supported. Don't need any capes, just USB host+gadget and HDMI Nov 25 09:33:23 about power supply ? Nov 25 09:33:46 12V or 5V or else ? Nov 25 09:34:23 Anguel: buildroot supports the BBB Nov 25 09:34:27 about HDMI, I cannot say Nov 25 09:34:31 ask in #buildroot Nov 25 09:36:05 av500: thanks, a recent presentation says that there are also predefined board-configs. I ran the latest rc2 but don't see them, any idea where these are? Nov 25 09:36:45 ask in #buildroot Nov 25 09:36:53 ok, thanks Nov 25 09:38:02 see you next time Nov 25 09:46:28 Anguel: it's not committed afaik, search the buildroot mailinglist Nov 25 09:47:11 philenotfound: yes, they just told me that it is expected soon, but not for 2013.11 Nov 25 10:35:18 hello everyone Nov 25 11:03:40 Hello. I am developing a camera driver for Beagle Board XM. Is there an authorized kernel against which I should develop? Nov 25 11:10:28 I would develop against the latest angstrom one Nov 25 11:17:03 Heyho.... just a quick question. How is the fastest way to get XBMC running on a BBB? I know that it wont work well, but I just need it to run at all :S Nov 25 11:19:27 if there is an angström package, install that Nov 25 11:19:32 if there isnt, compile it from source Nov 25 11:19:42 or choose a distro that has already an xmbc package Nov 25 11:22:11 I wasn't able to find any with xbmc already inside :S Nov 25 11:22:17 angstrÃ¶m might work... Nov 25 11:25:54 Kernle: why xbmc? Nov 25 11:25:59 you wont have fun with it Nov 25 11:26:13 av500: I know, but I have to do that as part of a project :( Nov 25 11:26:22 ah Nov 25 11:26:38 Literally so I can just write "yep, its sh**" Nov 25 11:26:39 buy an rpi and glue it underneath Nov 25 11:27:27 That won't work :D Nov 25 11:27:33 Altough its a funny tought ;-) Nov 25 11:30:13 * KotH would do that Nov 25 11:30:24 just to troll a prof for a shitty asignment Nov 25 11:30:33 make raspbmc cape for bone Nov 25 11:30:46 hehe Nov 25 11:30:53 now, that would be a cool troll! Nov 25 11:31:30 :D Nov 25 11:31:47 Still.... I have to get xbmc running on the bbb. Just to confirm its bad :S Nov 25 11:33:57 Kernle, does xbmc need video hw acceleration? Nov 25 11:34:19 need not Nov 25 11:34:27 but it helps if you want video >VGA Nov 25 11:34:36 in fact, the UI is accelerated too Nov 25 11:34:46 so I guees without 3D, it wont do much Nov 25 11:35:00 So...angstrÃ¶m + xbmc is the way to go then? Nov 25 11:35:26 there is no 3D for the BBB right now Nov 25 11:35:26 latest angstrom does not support 3d Nov 25 11:35:43 So? Nov 25 11:35:58 you have to take an old one with 3.2 kernel Nov 25 11:36:15 well, in order to prove that is sucks, you can go with SW renderinfg Nov 25 11:36:22 is this for university? Nov 25 11:36:23 it will suck more Nov 25 11:39:07 Anguel: Yeah. Comparing RaPi and BBB in multiple diciplines. Nov 25 11:39:39 to sum up: rapi has many things working that bbb still hasn't Nov 25 11:39:51 but bbb has much better hw Nov 25 11:40:13 and ti is not able to deliver working drivers Nov 25 11:40:16 Yeah. Not extend that to a two page paper ;-) Nov 25 11:40:23 *now Nov 25 11:41:32 Anguel: well, bcm does not deliver working drivers either Nov 25 11:41:43 Anguel: there is just a much larger reverse engineering slave force at work Nov 25 11:42:20 yes, raspi has many developers i think Nov 25 11:42:38 bbb has/had one :) Nov 25 11:43:24 and the great RobertCNelson who is doing the kernel Nov 25 11:44:29 he wrote his own kernel? Nov 25 11:44:39 he kanged it Nov 25 11:50:04 why do you need a kernel, just bitbang everything Nov 25 11:50:23 bit bang all things? Nov 25 11:50:44 just install bitbang driver into MLO, GO! Nov 25 11:51:05 why mcu? use fpga! Nov 25 11:51:31 do everything single cycle Nov 25 11:52:27 Anguel, do you have any idea how much FGPAs with 1GHz clock cycle go for? Nov 25 11:52:45 panto: he didnt say how long that cycle is Nov 25 11:53:07 yes, you don't need 1 ghz there Nov 25 11:53:31 there's a reason people use general purpose CPUs whenever they can Nov 25 11:53:50 hint, logic design is super hard to get right Nov 25 11:54:17 at least you know what's going on there Nov 25 11:54:32 err, no you don't Nov 25 11:54:35 with mcu's you hope that someone has designed them right Nov 25 11:54:59 I have done complex spartan 3 designs :) Nov 25 11:55:00 you're as dependent on the vhdl/verilog compiler and placing tools Nov 25 11:55:01 is there some known issue that usb0 offers a different IP address from 192.168.7.1 to the pc? I'm having this problem with a beaglebone black. Nov 25 11:55:35 panto: logic design isnt hard to get right Nov 25 11:55:44 depends on the complexity Nov 25 11:55:45 you can simulate everything :) Nov 25 11:55:54 panto: it's just that people who grew up with java cannot think in 1's and 0's... much less in parallel Nov 25 11:56:11 I can't defend any java people Nov 25 11:56:16 oh, I did grow up with java, and then went the lower level Nov 25 11:56:31 and now I hate java Nov 25 11:56:44 but the problems you can tackle with an FPGA are not half as complex as the ones in general purpose CPU code Nov 25 11:56:58 so horses for course Nov 25 11:57:00 *courses Nov 25 11:57:02 hm.. you were abused by java in your childhood? that explains the scars Nov 25 11:57:28 panto: that's only because we have better techniques for tackling complex problems in the software world Nov 25 11:57:35 no we don't :) Nov 25 11:57:38 panto: while the hardware world stagnated in the 80s Nov 25 11:57:44 it's turtles all the way down :) Nov 25 11:57:48 lol Nov 25 11:58:08 panto: trust the words of a hardware guy who is at least a decade younger than you are! ;) Nov 25 11:58:16 I love Java :O Duh... Nov 25 11:58:22 mark-1 brain + mark-1 eyeball FTW Nov 25 11:58:39 Kernle: dont worry, you will see the light somewhen... hopefully Nov 25 11:58:45 I think it may be java that makes even the fastest Android phone slow Nov 25 11:58:57 Anguel: nope Nov 25 11:58:58 Anguel, that's app developers Nov 25 11:59:13 Anguel: it's people who dont even know enough java to understand what makes their programs slow Nov 25 11:59:31 panto: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/261 :) Nov 25 11:59:34 Anguel, is the typical problem of having a very low barrier to entry Nov 25 11:59:44 KotH: I know a lot of languages. I even learned assembler back in school (nasty stuff -.-). Java is just so easy to work with. Aka you get results fast. And modern devices (read: android phones) are generally fast enough to allow slacked coding. Nov 25 11:59:48 you get lots of apps, but they're made mostly by drooling monkeys Nov 25 11:59:52 java's garbage collector may kick in anytime, or did they change that in android? Nov 25 12:00:07 they don't use the jvm Nov 25 12:00:11 it's something completely different Nov 25 12:00:18 Anguel: It might kick in any time, but the improved performance with 2.2 i think... parallel GC Nov 25 12:00:42 android java is just java in syntax Nov 25 12:00:49 everything else is android specific Nov 25 12:01:00 Still works :D Nov 25 12:01:08 Kernle: given the fact that my phone has approx 10 times the cpu power, 20 times the graphics power and 5 times the meory of my pc 14y ago, i must say it's a shame that the speed of my phone is about 1/10th of my old pc Nov 25 12:01:54 java still uses GC Nov 25 12:02:02 in android Nov 25 12:02:04 so what? Nov 25 12:02:08 GC isn't bad per se Nov 25 12:02:12 it's the way how you use it Nov 25 12:02:13 GC is very very bad Nov 25 12:02:31 especially in memory constrained devices without swap Nov 25 12:02:43 apple has moved away from it Nov 25 12:02:57 why are lisp/scheme programs faster than java? although they are syntactically more complex to optimize (and thus hardly optimized) and make heavy use of memory allocation and dealocation using a GC? Nov 25 12:03:23 As genius Google developers say: allocating memory is always more expensive than not allocating memory :) Nov 25 12:03:30 right Nov 25 12:04:04 nowadays programs are not constrained by the cpu performance, but from the memory subsystem performance Nov 25 12:04:11 ops are free, but not load/stores Nov 25 12:04:46 and how about the java virtual machine, it is also a slowdown Nov 25 12:05:04 efficient things are all done in C++ afaik Nov 25 12:05:15 not as much as the dumb memory model relying on the heap Nov 25 12:05:34 http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/281 Nov 25 12:05:59 Anguel: you can write good and bad programs in all languages Nov 25 12:06:06 if you want to barf just check out any article explain C++ exception handling in detail Nov 25 12:06:16 Anguel: the more complex your underlying system, the more you have to know how it works to make good programs Nov 25 12:06:54 Anguel: and java combines both a low entry barrier (also people who know nothing can code) and a very complex underlying system that is not well documented Nov 25 12:06:54 KotH, the fact of the matter is that people that know everything about the underlying system (when it's very very complex) are $$$ Nov 25 12:07:12 panto: people who know things are always $$$ Nov 25 12:07:24 KotH, yes, but it's one thing to be up-front about it Nov 25 12:07:36 * KotH is upfront about what he costs Nov 25 12:07:40 200 Nov 25 12:07:41 and another to find out you need someone $$$ when you thought a $ would do Nov 25 12:07:42 per hour Nov 25 12:08:08 f you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur Nov 25 12:08:29 KotH, you don't count, you're swiss Nov 25 12:08:39 people in .ch are used to paying $30 for a pasta dish Nov 25 12:08:56 heh Nov 25 12:09:05 * KotH will not comment on food prices in .ch Nov 25 12:09:22 probably the highest on the planet :) Nov 25 12:09:29 it's cheaper to drive down to italy for dinner Nov 25 12:09:50 nope Nov 25 12:09:57 food prices in london are higher than in zürich Nov 25 12:10:10 yes, but what's the alternative? british food Nov 25 12:10:12 interestingly, food prices seem to be inverse proportional to food quality Nov 25 12:26:49 I have the impression that latest Google search completely ignores keywords and instead tries to guess what I am looking for without being very successfull :( Nov 25 12:29:08 Yeah, i was in ch this weekend. Dinner was 200CHF for two persons... thats expensive as hell Nov 25 12:29:23 (like 220$) Nov 25 12:31:01 Kernle: where did you eat? Nov 25 12:31:14 Kernle: 5 star restaurant in the middle of geneva? Nov 25 12:33:05 though.. i once managed to get to 400chf for 2 people without alcohol Nov 25 12:33:21 the cheap one ... with the personal waiter on your lap :) Nov 25 12:33:41 ogra_: blue Ã¶yster bar? Nov 25 12:33:53 \m/ Nov 25 12:34:28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_Academy_(franchise)#Blue_Oyster_Bar Nov 25 12:36:01 geez, 7 already ? who does still watch these ? Nov 25 12:38:04 people who are stuck in the 80s? Nov 25 12:40:48 80's ftw! Nov 25 12:41:25 before all this digital shit started! Nov 25 12:41:42 hi friends i am using starterware 02.00.01.01 for BBB can i access the eMMC to store my data?? How?? Nov 25 12:41:43 in teal ? Nov 25 12:41:48 and orange Nov 25 12:41:49 ... and orange ... Nov 25 12:41:55 :) Nov 25 12:42:01 technicolor! Nov 25 12:42:10 !! Nov 25 12:42:26 BBBStarter: does starterware have functions to access mmc? Nov 25 12:42:39 if yes, then yes Nov 25 12:42:47 BBBStarter, better ask in ti's community Nov 25 12:43:00 ok Anguel Nov 25 12:43:10 but yes :P Nov 25 12:43:25 BBBStarter: does starterware have functions to access mmc? Nov 25 12:44:25 accessing the eMMC I don't know Nov 25 12:45:28 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/StarterWare_02.00.01.01_User_Guide#Memory_Devices Nov 25 12:45:43 ....The example application provided as part of the package demonstrates the use of MMC/SD card with FAT filesystem... Nov 25 12:46:16 hi Nov 25 12:46:19 s/hi friends i am using starterware 02.00.01.01 for BBB can i access the eMMC to store my data?? How??/I dont know how to use Google/ Nov 25 12:46:29 did anyone tried the openwrt link for the BBB? Nov 25 12:46:38 https://github.com/artekw/openwrt-bbb Nov 25 12:46:42 * av500 does not try links Nov 25 12:46:44 it says it missing the images Nov 25 12:47:19 av500: "say no to links!" ? Nov 25 12:47:38 and rechts! Nov 25 12:47:47 mittendurch! Nov 25 12:47:55 ah jo! Nov 25 12:48:03 ++ Nov 25 12:49:38 many German-speakers here :) Nov 25 12:49:49 Anguel: nöd würkli Nov 25 12:50:59 sometimes I wonder if there are any who don't speak German here : Nov 25 12:52:24 * av500 only speaks mock-german Nov 25 12:52:48 * KotH has never properly learnt german Nov 25 12:58:10 any help with openwrt on the BBB? Nov 25 12:58:44 well, you gave no information on what went wrong Nov 25 12:59:17 as i said, no images there when it start building the images Nov 25 13:01:16 cp: cannot stat `/home/user/openwrt-bbb/build_dir/target-arm_v7-a_uClibc-0.9.33.2_eabi/linux-am33x_boneblack/linux-3.8.13/arch/arm/boot/uImage': No such file or directory Nov 25 13:03:30 Dovalle: that's probably just a second failure Nov 25 13:03:38 Dovalle: the first failure is the one you should be looking for Nov 25 13:04:24 im looking Nov 25 13:06:11 so it did not build the kernel image Nov 25 13:06:16 see the logs from that step Nov 25 13:07:14 the only error i can find is : drivers/video/Kconfig:60:error: recursive dependency detected! Nov 25 13:08:10 pastebin the full log Nov 25 13:08:27 but I guess a kconfig error is enough to not build the kernel Nov 25 13:12:16 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/user/openwrt-bbb' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/user/openwrt-bbb' make[3]: Entering directory `/home/user/openwrt-bbb/target/linux' make[4]: Entering directory `/home/user/openwrt-bbb/target/linux/am33x' /home/user/openwrt-bbb/scripts/kconfig.pl + /home/user/openwrt-bbb/target/linux/generic/config-3.8 /home/user/openwrt-bbb/target/linux/am33x/boneblack/config-3.8 > /home/user/openwrt-bbb/buil Nov 25 13:12:43 how do i paste longer than that? Nov 25 13:15:22 pastebin.com Nov 25 13:16:35 Hmmm, should xbmc work with ubuntu, too? Nov 25 13:16:59 http://pastebin.com/gkv54QYC Nov 25 13:19:03 so? Nov 25 13:19:14 cp /home/user/openwrt-bbb/build_dir/target-arm_v7-a_uClibc-0.9.33.2_eabi/linux-am33x_boneblack/linux-3.8.13/arch/arm/boot/uImage /home/user/openwrt-bbb/build_dir/target-arm_v7-a_uClibc-0.9.33.2_eabi/linux-am33x_boneblack/uImage Nov 25 13:21:38 what? Nov 25 13:21:47 indeed Nov 25 13:22:26 Kernle, should, problem is again the 3.8 kernel which does not support 3D Nov 25 13:24:23 i have there Image and zImage not uImage Nov 25 13:26:01 i had connection problem Nov 25 13:26:15 did you answer while i wasnt here Nov 25 13:26:34 no Nov 25 13:26:40 uimage gets built, no? Nov 25 13:26:46 :-) Nov 25 13:26:58 how do i know that? Nov 25 13:27:01 where to look? Nov 25 13:27:08 cp /home/user/openwrt-bbb/build_dir/target-arm_v7-a_uClibc-0.9.33.2_eabi/linux-am33x_boneblack/linux-3.8.13/arch/arm/boot/uImage /home/user/openwrt-bbb/build_dir/target-arm_v7-a_uClibc-0.9.33.2_eabi/linux-am33x_boneblack/uImage Nov 25 13:27:12 that works, no? Nov 25 13:28:47 i dont have error but i dont see the uImage file. strange Nov 25 13:29:59 look at: /home/user/openwrt-bbb/build_dir/target-arm_v7-a_uClibc-0.9.33.2_eabi/linux-am33x_boneblack/linux-3.8.13/arch/arm/boot/uImage Nov 25 13:32:00 bootp compressed dts Image install.sh Makefile zImage Nov 25 13:32:03 thats all Nov 25 13:35:32 Dovalle_: which make command did you type? Nov 25 13:36:21 just make V=s Nov 25 13:36:30 is configured to build a uImage? Nov 25 13:37:12 i think so... Nov 25 13:37:19 how do i make sure? Nov 25 13:37:22 I don't know buildroot, sorry Nov 25 13:37:58 maybe do a "make menuconfig" first Nov 25 13:38:10 and see what options are selected Nov 25 13:39:17 under Target Images? Nov 25 13:39:25 [ ] ramdisk ---> â”‚ â”‚ â”‚ â”‚ *** Root filesystem archives *** â”‚ â”‚ â”‚ â”‚ [ ] cpio.gz â Nov 25 13:39:54 http://pastebin.com/sNL0GY0Z Nov 25 13:44:27 Dovalle_, probably in KERNEL -> Install kernel image to target Nov 25 13:45:28 --> Select this option to have the kernel image installed to /boot in the target root filesystem, as is typically done on x86/x86_64 systems. Nov 25 13:52:43 im looking for such option Nov 25 13:58:42 cant find such an option Nov 25 13:58:52 also did search on the menuconfig Nov 25 14:03:23 ok, I have a new buildroot here, maybe it's missing in the old. is there any special reason to use openwrt? Nov 25 14:04:39 yes, we are using other HW with openwrt and would like to switch easily with all packages Nov 25 14:29:39 hey guys Nov 25 14:30:24 Maybe someone can help me. It is possible to use an internal multiplexer in BBB? Nov 25 14:30:57 for exmaple: AIN 1 read first from pin X after one second from pin Y Nov 25 14:31:13 target is to get more then 7 analogue inputs Nov 25 14:32:17 have you read the TRM? Nov 25 14:43:57 I read it right now Nov 25 14:44:09 but dont get the solution Nov 25 14:49:41 then ask questions Nov 25 15:00:46 so how can i build the uImage Nov 25 15:02:25 you bring good swiss chocolate to the altar and hope that the trolls will bless you with an answer for a question that could be easily answered using google Nov 25 15:16:35 I usually use "make uImage" or something like that Nov 25 15:20:29 *** No rule to make target `uImage'. Stop. Nov 25 15:33:52 it's been a while, haven't had to build my own kernel for years. I suggest google :) Nov 25 15:41:47 well, im after the google option. no luck there Nov 25 15:50:01 Hello I patch xenomai to latest ANgstrom Kernel for BeagleBone Black.And copy xenomai-2.6.3 in /usr/src/xenomai folder.Then to please guide me what to put --host and --build .Because it gives error: newly created file is older than distributed files! Nov 25 15:54:07 Hello Nov 25 15:56:25 koth, you mean it easy to connect more then 7 ADC without extra multiplexer? Nov 25 15:58:20 when I build user space support for Xenomai for BeafgleBone Black I got this error "error: newly created file is older than distributed files!" Nov 25 16:06:46 pastebin.com Nov 25 16:17:38 Hello all, I corrupted my emmc somehow. Now, trying to flash it with latest Angstrom. Always it flashes successfully - after 45 - 55 mins 4 LEDs lit continuously. When I remove SD card and boot, it won't :( all 4 LEDs used to blink continuously, all blinks blinks every second. Can someone guide me to fix this problem, thanks, Nov 25 16:21:23 anantha89: have you looked into the console pins? Nov 25 16:21:58 thews: no, I haven't Nov 25 16:22:53 also Angstrom image size is 3.4 GB whereas emmc is 2GB, how will it get flashed into 2GB? Nov 25 16:25:13 magic Nov 25 16:25:16 and compression Nov 25 16:25:28 the flasher image isn't just a direct copy from what I've read Nov 25 16:25:36 and also the flasher image has the image and the flasher Nov 25 16:26:57 yeah Nov 25 16:26:58 http://nullr0ute.com/2013/10/serial-console-options-on-the-beagle-bone-black/ Nov 25 16:29:16 great! thank you Nov 25 16:32:33 anyone know how to get more then 7 ADC? Nov 25 16:36:11 alex______: http://eu.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Data-Converter-ICs/Analog-to-Digital-Converters-ADC/_/N-4c43g/ Nov 25 16:36:56 alex______: or maybe http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ADC101C021CIMK%2FNOPB/ADC101C021CIMK%2FNOPBCT-ND/1802495?WT.mc_id=PLA_1802495 Nov 25 16:40:00 thank you thews Nov 25 16:40:03 I just think about multiplexer Nov 25 16:40:17 or you could interface with an atmega 2560 and use it's analog pins Nov 25 16:40:29 i2c chips are cheap and easy to use Nov 25 16:40:46 you can find some parts in DIP if you want to use perf board or breadboard Nov 25 16:41:18 you think its possible to use only on board hardware Nov 25 16:41:44 ? Nov 25 16:42:00 if you use switching sure Nov 25 16:42:20 relays / transistors Nov 25 16:43:15 for ex: AIN1: read in 1st second from pin x and in 2nd pin y but use only the AIN1 Nov 25 16:43:18 cheaper to just buy more ADCs Nov 25 16:45:00 I tought that is maybe possible with onboard multiplexer/demultiplexer Nov 25 16:45:20 I need only 1 ADC more, in sum 8 Nov 25 16:45:37 I know that the chip has 8 channel Nov 25 16:45:51 but the 8. is not available? Nov 25 16:45:59 I don't know how that would work with analog voltage Nov 25 16:46:34 one channel is probably used for reference reading Nov 25 16:48:53 hm Nov 25 16:51:10 if you need lots of analog, it makes sense to get an adc chip Nov 25 16:51:34 depending on the resolution you need, you have lots of options Nov 25 16:54:18 Hello, Any low cost way of hooking up a sim card to bb? I don't need voice, just need to get caller IDs when someone calls the card. (sms and other features would be nice, but cost is really the number one priority) Nov 25 16:56:01 a SIM is not a phone Nov 25 16:56:19 you mean a GSM card maybe? Nov 25 16:56:34 old nokia phone: free Nov 25 16:56:38 cheap webcam: free Nov 25 16:56:41 thank you thews Nov 25 16:56:51 openCV to read the caller ID from the LCD: priceless Nov 25 16:57:45 Sorry av500, my typing bar just disappeared here :P Nov 25 16:58:30 not sure if connecting a phone, or maybe a gsm module? Nov 25 16:59:00 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9533 Nov 25 16:59:06 just looking for a stable way of trigger some basic automation based on caller ids Nov 25 17:00:56 old modem = free Nov 25 17:01:13 SIP = next to free Nov 25 17:01:25 freeswitch and asterisk = free Nov 25 17:01:37 twilio = cheap Nov 25 17:01:52 can't rely on internet Nov 25 17:02:08 old modem you mean.... old cellphones? Nov 25 17:02:20 why does it need to be cellular? Nov 25 17:02:29 because there is no landline Nov 25 17:02:39 hmm Nov 25 17:03:21 directional wifi = reliable Nov 25 17:03:28 Would like to do some kind of "gate control" device Nov 25 17:03:40 based on a phone call to open the gate Nov 25 17:04:02 * av500 sends vassily a ping Nov 25 17:04:16 quite bad being locked outside of your house when theres no internet lol Nov 25 17:04:40 S_Harris2: in those situations I've found that a key is the best thing Nov 25 17:04:48 WPA key? Nov 25 17:04:53 brass key Nov 25 17:05:01 insert into lock mechanism Nov 25 17:05:02 twist Nov 25 17:05:10 -ETOOCOMPLICATED Nov 25 17:05:13 lol, thats true Nov 25 17:05:18 make it as a backup to whatever electronic device is attached that is guaranteed less reliable Nov 25 17:05:58 wouldn't something bluetoothy be better, assuming the distance from the transmitter/receiver isn't too great Nov 25 17:06:04 I've tried out a few remote unlock mechanisms Nov 25 17:06:25 * thews has hundreds of storage units to deal with, and some people need access to them Nov 25 17:06:31 just thinking in some options for garage control, mainly for hotels, and condos... Nov 25 17:06:37 in the end it always comes back to using a key Nov 25 17:06:38 BT is like the star wars transporter, it fails when you need it most Nov 25 17:06:43 er, star trek :) Nov 25 17:07:26 I must admit, I've only every used it in _attempts_ to transfer files between phones Nov 25 17:07:38 I think it has reliably 100% always failed Nov 25 17:07:48 so maybe that was a bad suggestion Nov 25 17:08:14