**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 28 02:59:58 2013 Nov 28 05:12:11 I build custom Angstrom Kernel for BB-Black.But when I give uname -a command on BBB terminal its gives "3.8.13-00724-g1ae2db0".Why ? Nov 28 05:14:27 what do you expect it to say? Nov 28 05:17:53 I want to know meaning of that string after Kernel version and How to remove it ? Nov 28 05:23:30 vikrant8051, it's the git commit id of the kernel tree you built Nov 28 05:23:41 it helps figure out later exactly which code you built Nov 28 05:34:22 What are my options for Bluetooth LE on BBB? Nov 28 05:35:15 How to reduce Boot up time for BBB ? Nov 28 05:36:14 dont' turn it off. Nov 28 05:37:05 <_av500_> bacon000: some usb BLE dongle? Nov 28 05:37:47 <_av500_> vikrant8051: how long does it take? Nov 28 05:38:40 _av500_: so Angstrom Linux supports it? Nov 28 05:38:59 For detecting by PC its take approx. one minute ? Nov 28 05:52:08 hiho Nov 28 06:31:59 can I flash Sd card Image for BeagleBone Black into its eMMC ? Nov 28 06:33:01 yes Nov 28 06:33:07 if you know how Nov 28 06:36:40 guys i am trying to patch the DT so that the mmc numbering swaps .. Nov 28 06:37:01 almost there .. emmc is mmc0 already but mmc1 fails to start due to voltage issues Nov 28 07:18:46 During latency text for Xenomai on BeagleBone Black I got worst latency =71.455uSec for periodic user mode task=1000 uSec.IAnd for 100uSec task it is above 25uSec .Is this all right ? Nov 28 07:53:19 av500: are you affiliated with the beagleboard team? Nov 28 07:53:47 or _av500_ Nov 28 07:58:53 or anybody else Nov 28 07:59:30 perhaps KotH Nov 28 07:59:33 somesomething: you are more likely to get an answer if you just ask what you want to know. Nov 28 07:59:50 conrad should be booted as distributor Nov 28 08:00:24 BBB is sold out everywhere I look. Anyone know a place which has them in stock? Nov 28 08:00:26 hrhrhr why? Nov 28 08:01:04 I ordered a BBB on 1 september there, it showed a dispatch date for november 25th Nov 28 08:01:12 it was a long wait, but I was okay with it Nov 28 08:01:29 so the 25th passed, and now they updated it to 29th december Nov 28 08:02:06 i don't know what all you have with your distris... http://www.watterott.com/de/Boards-Kits/ARM/BeagleBoard Nov 28 08:02:12 says 169 in stock. Nov 28 08:02:53 tigal says out of stock, and available from 25.12 on. Nov 28 08:03:25 HOW CAN I WRITE MAGIC CODE NOW Nov 28 08:03:32 av500: send me a BBB so I can do magic code Nov 28 08:03:39 so probably the next batch incl. shipping will not hit europe until end of dec. i personally would guess the conrad is not the one to blame here (even though i do not like them) Nov 28 08:04:11 They should't have put a dispatch date on it back when I ordered Nov 28 08:04:14 you do not like reading, don't you? i just told you a distributor who still has them in stock. Nov 28 08:05:51 digikey is also out of stock.... so basically the situation seems to be that the manufacturer can't keep up with the orders at the moment. Nov 28 08:06:38 sounds like a good problem to have :c) Nov 28 08:06:49 I ordered over a month ago Nov 28 08:20:14 well i just put 10 on backorder on mouser to make sure I can get some more early this next year. Nov 28 08:25:54 hi how boot bbb from sd? Nov 28 08:39:40 anyone wanna help me swapping the mmc ids ?!? Nov 28 08:40:09 <_av500_> i'll give you two 0's for a 1 Nov 28 08:40:49 hi how boot bbb from sd? Nov 28 08:41:53 <_av500_> lol Nov 28 08:42:14 <_av500_> you are in this channel for how long now? Nov 28 08:42:26 * ogra_ grins Nov 28 08:42:31 _av500_: yu can help? how to create a sd bootable? Nov 28 08:42:48 dont do it. Its a trick... Nov 28 08:43:09 any link on how to flash a new os on a bbb Nov 28 08:43:21 Dr{Who}: why? Nov 28 08:43:21 <_av500_> write flasher to sd card Nov 28 08:43:24 <_av500_> boot from sd Nov 28 08:43:26 <_av500_> let it flash Nov 28 08:43:29 <_av500_> remove sd card Nov 28 08:43:56 _av500_: yu can hekp? Nov 28 08:44:06 that simple ha? :) how do you boot from sd card Nov 28 08:44:07 <_av500_> i dont need t Nov 28 08:44:15 <_av500_> you are not the forst to want to boot from sd Nov 28 08:44:20 <_av500_> first Nov 28 08:44:44 <_av500_> if you have internet, try google Nov 28 08:44:53 there isn t Nov 28 08:45:07 <_av500_> no internet? too bad Nov 28 08:45:12 whaaaa what did you search for "bork sd" Nov 28 08:45:15 i can vouch that google works Nov 28 08:45:34 <_av500_> Quinto: for how long are you in this channel now? Nov 28 08:45:39 <_av500_> 2 weeks? 4? Nov 28 08:46:30 i have download Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.09.05.img.xz and i have flash SD but when i insert sd on BBB I cant connect my pc to BBB vua SSH Nov 28 08:46:36 <_av500_> Quinto: for how long are you in this channel now? Nov 28 08:46:41 uh .. feels like the channel is not in a good mood today Nov 28 08:46:51 _av500_: 2 Nov 28 08:47:09 <_av500_> so, in this time the question "how to boot from sd" has been answered quite often Nov 28 08:47:25 but idont read the answers Nov 28 08:47:26 <_av500_> rob_w: yes, groundhog day Nov 28 08:47:37 Quinto: check if you have BBB as a network interface connected to your pc, ifconfig and see if you have the interface up there Nov 28 08:47:47 do we have a bot in this channel? Nov 28 08:47:47 <_av500_> ignorace is bliss Nov 28 08:47:51 then i should replan my mmc id mapping to a different day Nov 28 08:48:02 <_av500_> rob_w: no need Nov 28 08:48:06 ;-.) Nov 28 08:48:09 vvu|Log: i have only miniusbcable Nov 28 08:48:11 <_av500_> you'll manage today, I am sure Nov 28 08:48:25 it almost works Nov 28 08:48:35 but the regulators seem to fuck up Nov 28 08:48:57 or the omap_hsmmc.c doesnt like me mapping it round Nov 28 08:49:16 rob_w: dont grok the task you are working on. The ID's of the mmc? sounds low level and fun. do tell. Nov 28 08:49:46 Quinto: do ifconfig on your linux machine Nov 28 08:49:50 vvu|Log: but after i flash SD card and insert SD on BBB how start BBB from SD? i must simply power on BBB? Nov 28 08:49:51 http://pastebin.com/iu1G9Rik i got this far .. emmc becomes mmc0 but then mmc1 fails on regulators Nov 28 08:50:00 <_av500_> Quinto: hold the boot button Nov 28 08:50:08 <_av500_> as explained almost everywhere Nov 28 08:50:15 <_av500_> even in the SRM Nov 28 08:50:22 <_av500_> which of course you dont read Nov 28 08:50:25 <_av500_> alas Nov 28 08:50:36 is User boot? Nov 28 08:50:40 user button Nov 28 08:50:56 <_av500_> how many buttons are there? Nov 28 08:51:07 power and reset Nov 28 08:51:30 <_av500_> its probably not reset Nov 28 08:52:18 _av500_: so user button Nov 28 08:52:23 no power or reset button Nov 28 08:52:25 _av500_: the android boot works with the n5 Nov 28 08:52:34 <_av500_> vvu|Log: unpatched? Nov 28 08:52:58 it recognized the device, the otg part Nov 28 08:53:07 RNDIS i think is activated did not test until there Nov 28 08:53:13 just derped around a bit last night with it Nov 28 08:53:26 maybe they patched the otg, or again android did magic Nov 28 08:54:35 _av500_: ok hold the boot button Nov 28 08:54:53 <_av500_> boot for boot Nov 28 08:54:55 <_av500_> kind of makes sense Nov 28 08:55:05 but i must wait now? or is runned from SD now? Nov 28 08:55:50 with sd card plugged in press the button and apply power to the board Nov 28 08:55:51 why now i cant connect at BBB via SSH! Nov 28 08:56:01 i did Nov 28 08:56:09 but now i cant connect at BBB via SSH! Nov 28 08:56:33 do lsusb -v in your linux machine and pastebin the output Nov 28 08:56:39 then do ifconfig and paste the output Nov 28 08:56:52 i hold boot from 10 sec and release after Nov 28 08:57:18 is the heartbeat led flashing ? Nov 28 08:58:06 d2 flashing Nov 28 08:58:31 ok, do lsusb -v on your linux machine Nov 28 08:58:36 from which you want to ssh into BBB Nov 28 09:00:33 i view ssh from windows Nov 28 09:00:57 with a ssh client Nov 28 09:01:03 192.168.7.2 Nov 28 09:01:06 look into device manager or how is it called on windows if you have a new network interface Nov 28 09:01:15 1st see if windows sees the BBB Nov 28 09:01:19 if not is useless to try and connect Nov 28 09:01:48 yes it view BBB infact i view removable disk called BEAGLEBONE Nov 28 09:02:00 do you have a new network interface ? Nov 28 09:02:03 on COM5(Gadget serial port) Nov 28 09:03:13 nop, not good you should have RNDIS something network interface think so Nov 28 09:03:19 <_av500_> what is on the SD card? Nov 28 09:03:24 <_av500_> the flasher image? Nov 28 09:03:32 <_av500_> does that expose networking over usb at all? Nov 28 09:03:38 vvu|Log: yes Nov 28 09:03:57 _av500_: flasher i don't think it does networking over usb Nov 28 09:04:02 _av500_: no this:Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.09.05.img.xz Nov 28 09:04:12 <_av500_> ok Nov 28 09:04:28 <_av500_> Quinto: get a serial cable Nov 28 09:04:33 <_av500_> its like $5 Nov 28 09:04:41 <_av500_> and so much less pain Nov 28 09:04:48 vvu|Log: Linux USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget Nov 28 09:04:54 i have this Nov 28 09:05:07 do you have IP for that one ? Nov 28 09:05:12 I am planning to create a rover based on beaglebone black, I will be using a wifi connection to stay in contact with it, I am using server-client for communications. Any suggestions? Nov 28 09:05:37 i think 192.168.7.2 Nov 28 09:05:53 check what you have Nov 28 09:06:30 vvu|Log: how i check ip? Nov 28 09:06:32 with ping Nov 28 09:06:34 ? Nov 28 09:06:50 if i do ping 192.168.7.2 it respond me Nov 28 09:07:12 C:\Users\MONICA>ping 192.168.7.2 Nov 28 09:07:12 Nov 28 09:07:12 Esecuzione di Ping 192.168.7.2 con 32 byte di dati: Nov 28 09:07:12 Risposta da 192.168.7.2: byte=32 durata<1ms TTL=64 Nov 28 09:07:12 Risposta da 192.168.7.2: byte=32 durata<1ms TTL=64 Nov 28 09:07:13 Risposta da 192.168.7.2: byte=32 durata<1ms TTL=64 Nov 28 09:07:13 Risposta da 192.168.7.2: byte=32 durata<1ms TTL=64 Nov 28 09:07:27 ok so now just ssh with PuTTY Nov 28 09:07:59 wth client? Nov 28 09:08:07 yes, with some ssh client Nov 28 09:08:48 10:08:39.717 Starting a new SSH2 session. Nov 28 09:08:48 10:08:39.718 Connecting to SSH2 server 192.168.7.2:22. Nov 28 09:08:48 10:08:40.720 Connection failed. Connect() failed: Windows error 10061: Impossibile stabilire la connessione. Rifiuto persistente del computer di destinazione. Nov 28 09:09:15 do not paste here, and please translate. curently my itanlian skills are not here Nov 28 09:09:48 is english Nov 28 09:09:53 <_av500_> sure Nov 28 09:10:01 <_av500_> but we need the original klingon Nov 28 09:10:41 ? Nov 28 09:11:25 Quinto: get a serial cable, connect it to the BBB and check if the ssh server is working on the BBB Nov 28 09:11:44 also on what port do you try to ssh ? Nov 28 09:11:53 i dont have serial cable i have only usb cable Nov 28 09:11:58 port 22 Nov 28 09:11:58 maybe ur config is screwed Nov 28 09:12:26 Quinto: you sound like an intelligent person Nov 28 09:12:33 Quinto: do you prefer oranges or apples Nov 28 09:12:36 Quinto: http://learn.adafruit.com/ssh-to-beaglebone-black-over-usb/overview try and follow this one Nov 28 09:12:52 <_av500_> Quinto: get a serial cable, for $5 Nov 28 09:13:19 _av500_: i know but i must resolve this problem now Nov 28 09:13:38 but i have a RS232 cape on my BBB Nov 28 09:13:47 i can use this RS232 for console debug? Nov 28 09:15:47 hello viv Nov 28 09:15:54 @kmit:hello Nov 28 09:16:45 <_av500_> Quinto: you would need MLO and uboot recompiled for the other UART Nov 28 09:16:53 <_av500_> or you solder two wires Nov 28 09:17:01 <_av500_> to get the debug UART onto the cape Nov 28 09:17:36 rob_w: not played with a cape yet. Did my own Pi addon board but this looks much more advanced. Where are these files? kernel.org? Nov 28 09:17:39 *better buy the serial cable* Nov 28 09:17:56 * Kernle throws a BBB at _av500_ Nov 28 09:18:48 _av500_: i can edit uEnv.txt like:optargs=run_hardware_tests quiet capemgr.extra-override=BB-UART2 console=ttyO2,115200n8 ? Nov 28 09:19:15 Dr{Wh0}, those files are inside kernel/arch/arm/boot/dts and kernel/firmware/capes/beaglebone .. they are the DeviceTable DT ( dark side) Nov 28 09:19:50 ya totally cool. Looks neet. Will have to make my own cape and dig into that a bit. Looks like fun. Nov 28 09:20:19 so with that cape that has its own emmc I presume the deal is that it would remap the onboard one to the cape and boot from the cape? Nov 28 09:20:55 someone send me a BBB Nov 28 09:21:02 I need to write magic code Nov 28 09:22:14 <_av500_> Quinto: that too Nov 28 09:22:32 _av500_: you surely have a spare BBB just laying around catching dem dusties Nov 28 09:23:03 <_av500_> its only $45 Nov 28 09:23:13 I ordered one 1 sept Nov 28 09:23:25 dispatch has been pushed from 25 nov to 29 dec Nov 28 09:23:33 <_av500_> ouch Nov 28 09:23:34 <_av500_> where? Nov 28 09:23:37 conrad Nov 28 09:23:42 i see plenty on ebay with free ship. Nov 28 09:23:52 <_av500_> buy somewhere else and cancel conrad Nov 28 09:24:03 <_av500_> somesomething: where are you? Nov 28 09:24:05 I tried contacting them two days ago Nov 28 09:24:08 the netherwonderlands Nov 28 09:26:06 <_av500_> €50 on ebay Nov 28 09:26:06 _av500_: dont work Nov 28 09:26:18 _av500_: from where? US? Nov 28 09:26:23 <_av500_> .de Nov 28 09:27:14 watterott... 169 in stock. Nov 28 09:27:18 nobody listens to me. Nov 28 09:27:24 I was watching a show that said the netherlands were like the happiest place on the planet. I can say it made me feel a bit sad as the US probably got bottom 10. Nov 28 09:28:05 <_av500_> LetoThe2nd: right Nov 28 09:28:09 <_av500_> watterott too Nov 28 09:28:21 <_av500_> €45 Nov 28 09:28:24 _av500_: tht AM335x can do serial boot right ? Nov 28 09:28:31 <_av500_> yes Nov 28 09:28:38 _av500_: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/TTL-232R-3V3/768-1015-ND/1836393 20$ Nov 28 09:28:41 any idea if MLO and U-Boot support it ? Nov 28 09:29:05 i need to brace myself because winterbreak is coming and i have no project for it Nov 28 09:29:07 <_av500_> Quinto: $5 on ebay Nov 28 09:29:54 <_av500_> ok, you need TTL Nov 28 09:29:58 <_av500_> $5 on dx.com :) Nov 28 09:30:08 <_av500_> but you have the serial cape Nov 28 09:30:17 <_av500_> all you need it to connect GND, VCCm TX and RX Nov 28 09:30:22 yes i have a serial cape Nov 28 09:30:24 <_av500_> with 4 jumper wires Nov 28 09:30:28 <_av500_> remove cape Nov 28 09:30:31 <_av500_> connect 4 wires Nov 28 09:30:32 10pcs for $15 on ebay (works most of the time (tm)) Nov 28 09:30:33 <_av500_> done Nov 28 09:30:33 ok Nov 28 09:30:49 <_av500_> from the 6 pin debug header Nov 28 09:30:55 how? Nov 28 09:31:03 i have serial cable Nov 28 09:31:19 <_av500_> http://www.ebay.de/itm/USB-2-0-an-TTL-UART-6pin-Konverter-seriell-CP2102-ID9372-/271315589881 Nov 28 09:31:33 <_av500_> Quinto: what how? Nov 28 09:31:36 Quinto: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial Nov 28 09:31:47 you have there details of the pins Nov 28 09:32:30 <_av500_> Quinto: see, that is your problem, you get told an answer and instead of spending even a minute of research, you are immediately back with "how?" Nov 28 09:32:53 <_av500_> we cannot handle 100k people in this channel like that Nov 28 09:32:59 <_av500_> not even 1k Nov 28 09:33:01 <_av500_> or 100 Nov 28 09:33:03 _av500_: yes.. :) but i cant use Beaglebone capers232 Nov 28 09:33:04 ? Nov 28 09:33:14 <_av500_> you have the serial cape Nov 28 09:33:18 <_av500_> it uses UART1 or so Nov 28 09:33:21 <_av500_> debug is on UART0 Nov 28 09:33:23 uart2 Nov 28 09:33:27 <_av500_> all these pins are on the BBB Nov 28 09:33:32 <_av500_> so, fucking connect them Nov 28 09:33:38 yes but if i edit uEnv.txt Nov 28 09:33:49 console=tty02,115200n8 Nov 28 09:33:53 why dont worl? Nov 28 09:33:53 <_av500_> you are blind Nov 28 09:34:05 <_av500_> you dont know if eunv is read or not Nov 28 09:34:07 * vvu|Log needs to hide now Nov 28 09:34:11 <_av500_> so, connect the debug uart Nov 28 09:34:18 anyone tried the jtagulator. I bricked a phone and want to try and reflash it. Its some TI chip running linux but the jtag header is not as many pins as I expect. Nov 28 09:34:26 <_av500_> i'm pissed that this UART is not hooked up out of the box Nov 28 09:34:31 <_av500_> but, so it is Nov 28 09:34:48 <_av500_> Dr{Who}: phone with jtag?` Nov 28 09:34:55 sip phone. Nov 28 09:35:00 <_av500_> 14pin jtag can be mapped to 20pin Nov 28 09:35:10 jesus ................ I added this bbb starter pack and all the other stuff to my cart and I needed to make some phone calls, now I refresh and it's out of stock. WTF ? Nov 28 09:35:25 <_av500_> and you know how to flash this phone? Nov 28 09:35:42 <_av500_> you know the scan chain etc? Nov 28 09:36:16 no unfortuantly I dont. I have seen a few other similar devices that have the same basic reference design but no 100% on where memory is mapped. Nov 28 09:36:26 and I have other phones just like it. Nov 28 09:36:53 we bricked it trying to get into it and add our own stuff. Nov 28 09:38:06 _av500_: I've sent conrad en email a couple days ago Nov 28 09:38:09 still no reply Nov 28 09:38:18 <_av500_> well Nov 28 09:38:27 <_av500_> to cancel? Nov 28 09:38:29 why are they even a distributor if they lie about dispatch dates Nov 28 09:38:32 yes Nov 28 09:38:45 <_av500_> they are a retailer Nov 28 09:38:49 at least they could have notified me with an email wouldn't you think Nov 28 09:39:03 instead of LOL WAIT ANOTHER MONTH YOU BITCH Nov 28 09:40:06 <_av500_> hey, its conrad Nov 28 09:41:50 what does a retailer have to do to become an official distributor Nov 28 09:42:00 aren't there some kind of rules Nov 28 09:42:02 RULES Nov 28 09:43:01 somesomething: we have all understood by now that you are unsatisfied with the way conrad handles your order. but please, stop it now, ok? you're just complaining and spamming, without the slightest benefit. Nov 28 09:43:29 <_av500_> hewy, its conrad after all Nov 28 09:43:33 somesomething: we already told you - don't give them your money, cancel, buy somewhere else. topic done. Nov 28 09:43:34 are we being the backseat moderator Nov 28 09:44:45 this has nothing to do with "backseat" or "moderator" - you've made your point - we listened - we answered - there's nothing more to it. Nov 28 09:45:03 yet you continue Nov 28 09:45:19 I last thing I asked what is required to become a distributor Nov 28 09:45:25 Since I have ambitions to become one Nov 28 09:45:31 _av500_: debug is on uart0 and BBB has 6 UART ports in total, right ? Nov 28 09:45:46 somesomething: contact the manufacturer. Nov 28 09:46:08 i am looking now on MLO, u-boot for serial boot...maybe during winter break i will do a mini tool to have booting flashing atuomatic via serial or smth Nov 28 09:46:09 hint: #beagle is *not* the official sales address. Nov 28 09:46:28 yet there might be people who know this stuff right? Nov 28 09:49:26 _av500_: but now i cant resolve withouth serial debug? Nov 28 09:49:47 <_av500_> well, given your skill set, no Nov 28 09:49:57 gpio can be used for serial signalling right Nov 28 09:50:58 not by definition. Nov 28 09:51:17 there might be drivers which can use gpios, but i doubt thats its generic Nov 28 09:51:56 to use a small arduino thermal printer Nov 28 09:54:09 usually its easier to just pick an uart which offers the signaling support Nov 28 09:54:44 * _av500_ sends LetoThe2nd an XOFF Nov 28 09:55:02 http://www.adafruit.com/products/600 Nov 28 09:55:18 * LetoThe2nd goes to read _av500_'s data sheet to see which signaling he supports. Nov 28 09:56:45 somesomething: I saw that a few weeks back. Kinda cool little printer. Lots of fun projects with that. Isnt thermal paper cancerous though? Nov 28 09:57:06 I eat a roll a day Nov 28 09:57:12 hehe. Nov 28 09:58:11 Ahh cool it says it bpa free. Nov 28 09:58:13 <_av500_> thermal paper selfdestructs nicely Nov 28 09:58:23 <_av500_> just leave it in sunight Nov 28 09:59:38 I'll leave you in the sunlight Nov 28 09:59:41 I was thinking it would make a nice cupon printer. and the added benifit is after a sit in your car on a sunny day you have to go back and get another :) Nov 28 10:03:21 somesomething: its ttl serial so no clock line you can bit bang it but it would be very unreliable unless interrupt driven. Best to use a uart. If it were i2c or something it would have been easy to just bang it out. Nov 28 10:05:37 Dr{Wh0}, no the cape doesnt have a mmc, the BBB itself has a emmc onboard and sdcard slot , but the funny is hte slot is mmc0 and the onboard is mmc1 or the onboard is mmc0 if the slot is empty Nov 28 10:05:39 "one does not easily bitbang uarts" Nov 28 10:06:50 depends on the size of the hammer Nov 28 10:07:03 rob_w: there is a patch somewhere, that makes the kernel always see them as specific devices, it was declined though iirc Nov 28 10:08:10 LetoThe2nd: its not hard just need an isr and a timer interrupt. the rest is simple bit shifting. Not something easy on linux i agree. easy on a pic chip or atmega chip. Nov 28 10:09:16 Dr{Who}: hrhr... you might want to talk to Boromir for getting the joke ;) Nov 28 10:09:53 _av500_: are 3 pin Nov 28 10:09:57 gnd tx and rx Nov 28 10:09:58 oh sorry :) humor went right over my head. :) Nov 28 10:10:08 Dr{Who}: http://www.quickmeme.com/Boromir/ Nov 28 10:10:31 steev, can oyu find that for me ? Nov 28 10:10:40 heh. Nov 28 10:12:03 rob_w: that seems normal. ish. linux tends to number things in the order they are discovered. If the slot is empty it would let the onboard get 0. same with pci scanning of ethernet ports. Nov 28 10:12:14 i know Nov 28 10:12:28 the root of the evil is that BBB routing is wrong imho Nov 28 10:12:29 still trying to grok your patch.. sorry. Nov 28 10:12:51 why would one make the external 0 and the internal 1 Nov 28 10:13:08 unless they started having the external and added internal aftewards Nov 28 10:14:07 so i want to revert that as my external card can be stolen or taken for further use and so i boot from internal .. but i dont want to script foo my rootdev and mount points and fix it in hte kernel Nov 28 10:14:12 I would presume the address for the external is lower if they scan in tht order so it would get 0 if it had a disk inserted. then when it finds the onboard it sets it to 1. Nov 28 10:14:28 rob_w: http://marc.info/?t=130193881300002&r=1&w=1 a google search of "mmc device naming" brings up a lot of hits Nov 28 10:14:31 that is the case Nov 28 10:15:16 i have connect pin debug 4 (RX) on pin 2 of my serial-usb cable Nov 28 10:15:28 but i view shit on hyperterminal Nov 28 10:16:01 I dont know a lot about device tree stuff. Kinda new to me. But maybe a way exists to change the order it is scanned. Nov 28 10:16:15 rob_w: that isn't the exact thread i was thinking of - it inially came from maemo Nov 28 10:17:24 thx anyway Nov 28 10:18:00 Dr{Wh0}, the device basicly is a flexible platform data , but the the scanning happens in the host driver Nov 28 10:18:18 so it felt easy for me through DT but it isent Nov 28 10:18:55 but steev mails show another nice approch naming the mmc to their according controller id Nov 28 10:19:11 what is image for start BBB from SD? Nov 28 10:20:02 rob_w: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mmc/15595 just saw this not finished reading yet Nov 28 10:26:35 rob_w: man this thead just keeps going. Nov 28 10:26:49 up to like patch idea #3 Nov 28 10:28:24 rob_w: the lats patch looks promising for your needs. Nov 28 10:30:02 Dr{Wh0}, the patch which adds the kernel config MMC_SLOTINDEX ? Nov 28 10:30:20 http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2012-July/111022.html Nov 28 10:30:34 the last email in that thread before it went cold. Nov 28 10:32:00 "mmcblk%d%s", card->host->index, subname ? subname : ""); Nov 28 10:32:12 is like this alot .. one line to rule em all Nov 28 10:33:48 there is a demo image < 3.64Gb? Nov 28 10:35:00 rob_w: wish I had another bbb to play with I would try it out in the AM but alas I have one and its got production code in test right now. I would like to know your results could you formward me your progress? Nov 28 10:35:39 there is a angstrom demo image < 3.64Gb? Nov 28 10:35:56 Dr{Wh0}, i will tell in in a bit today Nov 28 10:36:16 if the host id naming is good i think i decide for that ,, makes most sense to me Nov 28 10:36:24 ok cool ill be zzz may miss it. Would you mind emailing me? Nov 28 10:37:12 priv message me our mail Nov 28 10:37:18 <_av500_> we only do QQ here Nov 28 10:38:25 _av500_: where is an angstrom demo image for BBB minor of 3 GB? Nov 28 10:39:19 ok need zzz.. night all. Nov 28 10:39:54 <_av500_> why? Nov 28 10:40:02 <_av500_> there are not 3GB cards anyway Nov 28 10:40:05 <_av500_> no* Nov 28 10:40:08 av500: is QQ a stracraft or a warcraft thing, historically ? Nov 28 10:41:02 <_av500_> its chinese Nov 28 10:41:59 _av500_: because i have a SD card of 4gb but i view 3,4 gb.. While Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.09.05.img.xz is 3,6Gb and i think that the problem is here! Nov 28 10:42:28 hum I nerdily mentally noted that it was an old game in which you ragequitted by pressing alt+Q+Q Nov 28 10:43:17 i dont find a minor size image on google Nov 28 10:44:25 _av500_: now i dont have serial cable and i must resolve without.. if you can help me plz... :) Nov 28 10:45:45 and i must boot BBB from SD but seems impossible! Nov 28 11:08:14 Dr{Wh0}, patch works as intended Nov 28 11:08:41 now , no matter if the external card is in our out .. innteral is mmc1 and external is mmc0 Nov 28 11:08:50 which is what i was intended to do Nov 28 11:10:38 http://pastebin.com/rHVDP9bE Dr{Wh0} Nov 28 12:38:41 Hi... Do you know how to communicate Arduino and Beaglebone black using two wires: Tx Rx Nov 28 12:40:45 <_av500_> Quinto: there is really nothing to sd boot, write the image, hold the button Nov 28 12:40:53 aarvy: you sould probably add a thrid wire... GND Nov 28 12:41:51 I tried to connect GND - GND. But still no serial data on serial screen of Arduino Nov 28 12:42:18 not getting how to configure it in beaglebone :/ Nov 28 12:42:30 and Thankk you for your response :) Nov 28 12:42:38 aarvy: do the usual things - check baud rate, parity, data bits, stop bits. check polarity. and check the lines with a scope :) Nov 28 12:43:31 aarvy: and for the most simple test: short rx/tx, disable local echo on the beagle and check if the echo still appear. Nov 28 12:43:34 +s Nov 28 12:44:17 aarvy, which uart are you connecting to? Nov 28 12:44:54 yes - also check pinmuxing :) Nov 28 12:45:19 http://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-io-python-library-on-beaglebone-black/uart Nov 28 12:45:36 i am trying to do as explained in abov link Nov 28 12:45:42 only the serial debug interface is normally enabled Nov 28 12:45:43 UART1 and UART2 Nov 28 12:46:54 let me check Nov 28 12:46:58 ah okay, the python lib should take care of everything Nov 28 12:47:19 * LetoThe2nd has no idea of python. Nov 28 12:47:25 oops...pinmuxing looks fine Nov 28 12:47:57 oh...is it a problem with python library?. Nov 28 12:48:34 don't know, but a few lines up there are some ideas for you to check. Nov 28 12:49:08 the python lib should make it very easy to activate the uarts since it takes care of the device tree overlays Nov 28 12:49:34 aarvy, try as LetoThe2nd suggested: short rx/tx Nov 28 12:50:39 ya shouls try ... thanks :) Nov 28 13:11:39 hi guys! any link/s on basic bbb operations :) Nov 28 13:11:44 _av500_: only for first time? Nov 28 13:13:18 vtrbender: libraries make it also very easy to hide mistakes Nov 28 13:13:33 vtrbender: especially if you use the library in a way the original author doesn't Nov 28 13:28:56 I've following problem with NAND and ECC layout for am3517: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2013-November/168046.html Nov 28 13:29:52 In a production system I won't be able to use any other ECC flavor as OMAP_ECC_HAMMING_CODE_HW_ROMCODE Nov 28 13:35:55 * KotH does not know Nov 28 13:36:02 * KotH isnt into uboot Nov 28 13:36:19 <_av500_> yegorich: the BBB has no NAND Nov 28 13:36:42 ... if u-boot was made of chocolate ... Nov 28 13:36:54 ogra_: ...then i'd know everything about it ;) Nov 28 13:37:00 :) Nov 28 13:40:17 @_av500_: :-( Nov 28 13:41:47 <_av500_> yegorich: in ye olde times, when men were real men and women were real women, we did use nand on omap3 and we did use the same ECC layout as the rom code Nov 28 13:42:01 <_av500_> so its doable Nov 28 13:45:24 @_av500_: what I don't understand, why eccbytes and also positions will be configured at two places and when I look at those include/configs/*.h I can see that layout and macros have sometimes different values Nov 28 13:47:32 @_av500_: I've managed to persvade x-loader and u-boot to take this layout, but it was in the times, where am3517 had no SPL support. In the mainline u-boot the things look quite different. Nov 28 13:48:07 <_av500_> yegorich: sorrry, cant comment on the code Nov 28 13:48:23 <_av500_> just asked old people here about what we did back then :) Nov 28 13:48:32 <_av500_> that ws like 2.6..2x times Nov 28 13:48:43 @_av500_: yes, the system still runs 2.6.37 Nov 28 13:48:55 <_av500_> ah, newfangled stuf :) Nov 28 13:49:15 @_av500_: but I'm dreaming about upgrading to something new, perhaps with DT support :-) Nov 28 13:56:44 KotH, sure but still I am glad it exists Nov 28 13:57:09 vtrbender: doing gpio from user space is really really simple Nov 28 13:57:23 vtrbender: you can even do it in two, three lines of shell Nov 28 13:58:57 KotH, yes I have tried that but e.g. with UART I couldn't get it to work yet Nov 28 14:00:19 yes, you need to setup baudrate and stuff first Nov 28 14:00:26 hmm.. isnt there a prog for that? Nov 28 14:00:42 well.. it's ~20loc of c Nov 28 14:01:47 first you have to apply a device tree overlay to change the pin mode... I find that rather difficult and I am still struggling with that Nov 28 14:02:05 well DT is an orthogonal problem Nov 28 15:04:39 hi there channel :-) Nov 28 15:05:56 hi dury :) Nov 28 15:06:02 thurgood: are you available? Nov 28 15:06:16 hi there vtrbender Nov 28 15:07:14 vtrbender: maybe you can give me a hand with BBB Nov 28 15:07:42 * KotH cuts of vtrbender's hand and give it to dury Nov 28 15:07:52 vtrbender: maybe you can give me a hand with BBB Nov 28 15:07:59 sorry Nov 28 15:08:16 dury: read http://beagleboard.org/chat please Nov 28 15:09:30 hehe Nov 28 15:09:35 KotH: why not here Nov 28 15:09:50 dury: here? Nov 28 15:10:12 dury: you should read this enhance your skills in getting usefull answers Nov 28 15:10:16 er.. Nov 28 15:10:25 dury: you should read this to enhance your skills in getting usefull answers Nov 28 15:10:32 english seems difficult today Nov 28 15:10:38 * KotH blames av500 Nov 28 15:10:59 KotH: instead of http://beagleboard.org/chat please Nov 28 15:12:22 dury: read it! Nov 28 15:12:29 dury: it is good for you! Nov 28 15:12:43 dury: trust me! Nov 28 15:14:07 I did type to get into the BBB ssh 192.168.7.2@localhost it asks me password for that. THe documentation says leave it empty Nov 28 15:14:32 but not success Nov 28 15:15:28 KotH: read what? Nov 28 15:16:38 read http://beagleboard.org/chat Nov 28 15:19:54 dury, over USB? Have you tried this? http://learn.adafruit.com/ssh-to-beaglebone-black-over-usb Nov 28 15:22:53 vtrbender: that tutorial it's for windows users :-( Nov 28 15:23:50 sorry Nov 28 15:24:25 nope Nov 28 15:25:13 it's for every platform Nov 28 15:28:47 vtrbender: right.... but not success though.... just typed ssh 192.168.7.2 -l root hit enter and I got "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" Nov 28 15:29:45 vtrbender: what I'm doing wrong or what's happen :-( Nov 28 15:35:55 is the BBB still running on Angström as it was shipped? no booting from SD or changes to system? Nov 28 15:38:17 vtrbender: no it's just plugged through usb Nov 28 15:39:44 vtrbender: can't run Angstrom not power adapter and microHDMI adapter as well Nov 28 15:41:25 vtrbender: when I unboxed the device I got the board and USB cable Nov 28 15:41:47 Ångström is booting automatically even if you only plug USB in Nov 28 15:44:07 vtrbender: not for me.... Just an icon appeared in my Desktop "dog" Nov 28 15:46:09 have you read the adafruit link? It explains a lot of basic things Nov 28 16:10:18 vtrbender: red all Nov 28 16:11:27 vtrbender: downloaded mkudevrule.sh file as well but can't run it Nov 28 16:11:55 did as a superuser and still denied Nov 28 16:12:42 chmod + x maybe? Nov 28 16:13:21 I cannot help you with your problem since I don't run Ångström. Nov 28 16:14:00 I don't run Angstrom either Nov 28 16:14:44 but I am pretty sure it is a rather basic problem/mistake because the BBB and those tutorials are well tested Nov 28 16:15:02 vtrbender: what do you run then Nov 28 16:18:01 well, if you run the BBB out-of-the-box you do run Ångström... you need more background knowledge of the system and you will be able to solve your problem Nov 28 16:18:42 did run mkudevrule.sh Nov 28 16:19:39 as root... typing "sh mkudevrule.sh" without brakets Nov 28 16:21:50 sorry without quotation marks Nov 28 16:22:26 easiest way to access via ssh is to connect the BBB to your home network by cable. Then you don't have to deal with those USB drivers. Nov 28 16:27:27 vtrbender: I'm connected to router by wifi, right.... Nov 28 16:29:06 vtrbender: so connect the BBB by ethernet to the router.... but I will need the power adapter then? Nov 28 16:29:40 yes, just connect it. No, you don't need the power adapter. Nov 28 16:30:16 vtrbender: right I see :-) Nov 28 16:31:17 vtrbender: hang on Nov 28 16:42:38 Beagle legends, I have aquick question for you. Is there a way to always boot from SD card, without having to press that fiddly button every time? I googled but couldn't see anything Nov 28 17:24:59 Hi! Nov 28 17:25:15 I need some help with i2c_smbus reading Nov 28 17:26:19 Could somebody please help? "undefined reference to `i2c_smbus_read_byte_data'" when trying to read the bus from userspace C program Nov 28 17:28:46 vtrbender: are u there? Nov 28 17:30:18 yes Nov 28 17:30:33 typed ssh 192.168.7.2 -l root result => ssh: connect to host 192.168.7.2 port 22: No route to host Nov 28 17:31:12 you can just go to network settings Nov 28 17:31:39 snehal: me? Nov 28 17:31:44 and click on sharing tab of your netwrok share it with beaglebone and then click on beaglebone LAN and Nov 28 17:31:45 yes Nov 28 17:32:14 go to ipv4->properties Nov 28 17:32:25 and click assign ip adddress automatically Nov 28 17:32:29 then try ssh Nov 28 17:32:45 in my linux box? Nov 28 17:33:36 sorry snehal gessss Nov 28 17:33:54 oh you have linux I thought you have windows Nov 28 17:34:04 network settings, where snehal? Nov 28 17:34:31 Dury, I thought you are using windows+putty to access beaglebone Nov 28 17:34:36 but you have linux Nov 28 17:34:51 in that case I am not the rght person to answer your question Nov 28 17:35:20 all right mate don't worry... thanks indeed Nov 28 17:36:45 gesss can't access Nov 28 17:36:53 :-(+ Nov 28 17:53:13 so Nov 28 17:53:18 i am here Nov 28 17:53:38 and i managed to get to the console of the beagle bone black, so i am able to communicate with it ;-) Nov 28 17:53:53 however, it seems that the bootloader is talking to me Nov 28 17:53:58 Uboot Nov 28 17:54:36 should i tell him to boot? Nov 28 18:03:34 can't decide if i should start a solar tracking system as my first project... Can't be that hard eh ? Nov 28 18:05:49 just make it follow the sun ... Nov 28 18:20:14 any idea how to tell uboot to boot from microSD? Nov 28 18:23:36 hi guys! I have a problem with connecting through SSH over USB after i installed Ubuntu 13.10 image Nov 28 18:24:03 i can SSH through the ethernet, but its not working through the USB Nov 28 18:24:19 is there some sort of config file i should alter? Nov 28 18:28:56 phase_: make sure that the g_ethernet module is properly loaded Nov 28 18:29:13 no idea if ubuntu need additional configuration there. Nov 28 18:37:12 <`Ishq> phase_: You need to ensure you statically set both IPs to the same Nov 28 18:37:15 <`Ishq> I forget the term Nov 28 18:37:21 <`Ishq> But the first 3 sets need to match Nov 28 18:37:35 <`Ishq> ie, on the beaglebone, type ifconfig usb0 10.0.2.5 up Nov 28 18:37:40 <`Ishq> and on your own computer type Nov 28 18:37:45 <`Ishq> ifconfig usb0 10.0.2.6 up Nov 28 18:37:58 <`Ishq> And then you should be able to ssh Nov 28 18:48:00 ohh, okay. let me give that a try Nov 28 18:49:54 i get an error trying to ifconfig usb0 Nov 28 18:49:55 ifconfig usb0 10.0.2.5 up SIOCSIFADDR: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Nov 28 18:51:10 is g_ether or something like that loaded? Nov 28 18:51:16 <`Ishq> oh ya Nov 28 18:51:21 <`Ishq> Also modprobe g_ether Nov 28 18:51:31 k, let me try Nov 28 18:51:44 <`Ishq> You'll need to do that on the beagle bone, but should happen automatically on your host comp Nov 28 18:52:30 ohh, i modprobe g_ether, and it installed a USB Ethernet on my Host PC, let me check my virtual box Nov 28 18:53:15 was successful with the ifconfig usb0 10.0.2.5 up Nov 28 18:55:45 oaky, i can see the usb0 connection on the beaglebone, but cannot connect with either my win7 host, or my ubuntu virtual box, when i tried to ifconfig the vm, gave me a device not connected, and the modprobe also errored on the vm Nov 28 19:05:38 <`Ishq> If you on windows, and you plug in the beaglebone with g_ether and ifconfig'd up, it should automatically install the usb ethernet drivers Nov 28 19:05:43 <`Ishq> At least it does for me Nov 28 19:05:49 <`Ishq> On windows xp and above Nov 28 19:10:08 yup. it installed the usb ethernet drivers Nov 28 19:13:32 let me try to ssh into 10.0.2.5 Nov 28 19:13:45 <`Ishq> No Nov 28 19:14:04 Hi guys, I replaced dropbear with openssh and it works, when I use "systemctl status sshd.service", but how do I autostart it? Nov 28 19:14:18 <`Ishq> You have to go to network connections, right click the usb connection, properties, double click tcp/ip v4, and statically assign it an ip Nov 28 19:14:20 <`Ishq> otherwise it won't work Nov 28 19:14:26 the is no sshd.service, but /lib/systemd/system/sshd@.service Nov 28 19:14:31 ohhh Nov 28 19:14:33 okay Nov 28 19:14:39 <`Ishq> (on windows) Nov 28 19:15:03 I don't know if itÄs the right file, and if so, how to handle it. enable doesn't seem to work Nov 28 19:17:47 "systemctl start sshd.service" does work, but "systemctl enable sshd.service" not. Nov 28 19:41:48 hi i have enabled UART2 with command: echo BB-UART2 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots Nov 28 19:42:14 but how set UART2 on start of BBB? Nov 28 19:42:25 i dont want type every time echo BB-UART2 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots Nov 28 19:45:04 i edit uEnv.txt in /media/BEAGLEBONE like: optargs=run_hardware_tests quiet capemgr.extra-override=BB-UART2 BUT IT DONT START Nov 28 19:45:08 dont work! Nov 28 19:45:58 how about: capemgr.enable_partno=BB-UART2 Nov 28 19:46:14 i try Nov 28 19:46:34 but uEnv.txt is in media/BEAGLEBONE or in /boot? Nov 28 19:54:22 i have a problem with a my service.. at start of my embedded board i run a service, it start correctly but my app dont start because it dont open tty02(serialport) if i do systemctl 'stop myservice' and after i do 'systemctl start myservice'.. my app start correctly.. my service is: http://pastebin.com/BSLBe0RR Nov 28 19:59:17 some help for me? Nov 28 20:00:32 Quinto: Have you used systemctl enable myservice? Nov 28 20:00:40 sshguy: sshguy: yes Nov 28 20:01:22 Quinto: Does "systemctl status myservice" complain after a reboot? Nov 28 20:01:54 can receive and send data (SERIAL spi) by an application in android in BBB? Nov 28 20:02:20 sshguy: is active! Nov 28 20:02:25 after reboot Nov 28 20:02:39 but i cannot open ttyUSB0 Nov 28 20:03:02 now if i do stop and start service it work correctly Nov 28 20:03:39 hi Nov 28 20:03:41 can receive and send data (SERIAL spi) by an application in android in BBB? Nov 28 20:03:44 Quinto: Maybe it's not ready when systemd autostarts myservice, but I have basically zero experience with this Nov 28 20:04:11 and how start systemd after ? Nov 28 20:04:22 which is service for enable ttyusb0? Nov 28 20:06:00 hi, help me please Nov 28 20:06:25 Escobar: yes Nov 28 20:06:52 do you want send data from spi from an app written in android on BB? Nov 28 20:06:52 Quinto: I have no idea, but maybe somebody else can help you with that (I'm here, because I have problems as well :) Nov 28 20:07:34 Yes Quinto Nov 28 20:07:40 yes you can Nov 28 20:07:48 but i dont know Android Nov 28 20:08:27 ok Tx Nov 28 20:08:45 Quinto: Try adding a sleep of 2 seconds in your app.sh, maybe this works, although it wouldn't be as clean Nov 28 20:09:37 sshguy: I tried already Nov 28 20:10:31 Quinto: Mkay, then you need an expert :) Nov 28 20:10:37 :) Nov 28 20:10:38 thanks Nov 28 20:17:12 Anyone familiar with enabling the eQEP on the BBB? Patched the kernel as described here (https://github.com/Teknoman117/beaglebot/tree/master/encoders), but I get an Invalid Argument message when loading the one of the provided dtbo Nov 28 20:35:54 some help for me plz? Nov 28 21:00:33 hi Nov 28 21:03:05 Where I can buy a Beagleboard Black ? :( All website are soldout :( Nov 28 21:03:50 they are not. just order Nov 28 21:06:18 DigitKey soldout, Farnell SoldOut, conrad soldout Nov 28 21:06:52 I don't know many EU stores any idea ? Nov 28 21:07:52 digikey always show "sold out" but if you order it will get confirmed within a few days anyway Nov 28 21:09:12 Tick, are you in Sweden? Nov 28 21:15:03 nop France Nov 28 21:18:50 Amazon US have it, but I must paid expensive transport fees .. Nov 28 21:18:53 ah ok Nov 28 21:19:13 and Amazon UK? Nov 28 21:22:25 64€ a little expensive :/ Nov 28 21:22:59 I think 55$ with transport fees is cheaper Nov 28 21:23:30 But they are no store in Germany or Belgium who have the beaglebone ? Nov 28 21:28:07 looks good http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info.php/products_id/3910 Nov 28 22:24:25 anybody knows any libraries for C which are designed to communicate with USB 3G modems *AT command modems* ? Nov 28 22:26:20 vvu|Log: dont recall any libs. Most of the time when I do at commands I just build my own state machine around the port. You just looking for AT commands for that modem? Nov 28 22:28:06 i have the AT commands and everything just thought i can get easily around communicating with it :) Nov 28 22:29:13 ya the SYN ACK part does reqire the state machine though you can cheat and just blast it out and hope it is processed correctly. Looking for sold or just a hack :) Nov 28 22:30:39 vvu|Log: a suggestion. I have seen plenty of terminal state machine prototypes. I think I have one i put into my ser2sock on github. Its very similar and more likely to find libs for it and thus patterns. Nov 28 22:31:14 Dr{Who}: a link to github, if you can :) Nov 28 22:38:40 vvu|Log: https://github.com/nutechsoftware/ser2sock Just checked it does not have it. Too much code I forget what is where and when. I have to have something. I will look. Nov 28 23:21:12 vvu|Log: not so much luck. I have stuff but after doing research the biggest problem will be issues with unsolicited responses from some modems. Not sure if you will face that or not. https://ofono.org/documentation This project looks interesting and has some code inside that deals with abstracting the developer from "quirks" with different modems but may be overkill for your needs. If you know what you need to setup the modem and what the responses are Nov 28 23:21:13 and dont have to deal with out of band responses then a simple one like this that looks for exact matches will wor http://www.mikroe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22195 Nov 28 23:23:29 Dr{Who}: yeah i know when the modem spits out stuff to you, need to hack that one Nov 28 23:24:15 i am running the computer science club at my university and want to do with the students a project with BBBs and 3g modems Nov 28 23:24:38 and want to do all interfacing by ourselves, was just interested to see some examples to have an idea where problems will be Nov 28 23:25:22 i'm gonna use some huawei modems really basic AT commands on them Nov 28 23:30:23 vvu|Log: what language you going to do this in? nodejs? or ... Nov 28 23:31:05 C to interface with the modem and with some nodejs magic Nov 28 23:31:44 my part is just to code the communication with the modem, my target is to do it fully C the modem part Nov 28 23:31:59 ya node addons make doing async file io with fd's easy. Nov 28 23:32:09 yeah but don't really wanna do like this Nov 28 23:34:11 Dr{Who}: also have any xp with serial boot the AM335x chip ? Nov 28 23:35:57 i'm interested because the AM335x does serial boot on UART0 and MLO/U-Boot do it on UART1-5 Nov 28 23:42:29 I had read this last night http://wiki.beyondlogic.org/index.php/BeagleBoneBlack_Boot_Process and noted it boots first from spi then ... and UART etc. I made a note in my gray matter to dig into it later. I presume it must have some memory access protocol to make this work. Nov 28 23:42:51 with spi I would presume it emulates a flash chip. Nov 28 23:43:11 eerrrr or expects to talk to a flash chip or something emulating one. Nov 28 23:43:46 i know that the AM335x ROM wants xmodem so i presume mlo/u-boot does the same Nov 28 23:44:18 question is how fast do i need to switch wires to uart1 for example when i switch to mlo and what is the timeout there Nov 28 23:44:51 i have my BBBlfs to flash the BBB over usb completly and wanna do a tool that does the same thingie over serial just as a winter project :) Nov 28 23:48:12 Dr{Who}: nice thingie ser2sock, +1 for the work Nov 28 23:53:12 vvu|Log: thanks.. sorry for the lag.. putting food in the oven :) I suspect its instant. If it sends a Xmodem command and it does not get a reply within a fraction of a second it probably moves on but again I have not looked into this yet. Nov 28 23:54:45 yeah, need to read more on that. just asked on #u-boot to see if ppl have any idea. also maybe i have any luck but do you have experience with osx kexts? Nov 29 00:02:47 Been trying to get osx running on a system here with no luck so far unfortuanlty the board I want to use is not working with any process I have tried. I have not given up yet but have not had time to dig into the driver issues and boot problems. Nov 29 00:03:16 i am trying to get libusb to *speak* with the BBB Nov 29 00:03:24 the HoRNDIS kext takes it over Nov 29 00:03:29 and then libusb fails to get the device Nov 29 00:03:49 read smth about codeless kexts but it did not work for me, maybe i'm doing it wrong Nov 29 00:13:16 oh my big channel, cool Nov 29 00:14:44 going to get a beaglebone black... looks like a good device to develop some crazy midi software Nov 29 00:14:54 $45 good deal Nov 29 00:24:20 anyone have recommendations on expansion of the number of gpio ports on the black? Nov 29 00:25:43 nylar: how many you need? bbb has a bunch as is. Nov 29 00:26:11 * vvu|Log got lost in all those gpios Nov 29 00:27:59 well for now the provided ports are probably enough but in the future i may need more Nov 29 00:28:57 my plan is to use one of these to midi i/o through usb and play around with some rotary encoders and led's Nov 29 00:30:05 <`Ishq> bbb has like 64 Nov 29 00:30:15 yea 64 is a lot for starting out Nov 29 00:30:29 but should i get ambitious it might be fun to have more lol Nov 29 00:30:48 all depends on how much free time i have ya know how that goes Nov 29 00:31:37 would be trivial to get a proto cape and build an address circuit with some gpio pins to control more if its just an LED lots of simple methods exist to do this. Then just a few gpio pins can control hundreds of lines. Nov 29 00:32:55 ah nice just checked out the proto capes, just found out about this device Nov 29 00:33:03 looks nice and neat, might have to get one of those to o Nov 29 00:33:44 its on my list to get. Also has the STACKING headers get those so you can add a cape ontop of your cape :) least what I want for my lab. Nov 29 00:33:48 ooh smt breakouts, sweet Nov 29 00:34:02 cool Nov 29 00:34:05 thanks for that tip Nov 29 00:34:49 i was about to get a raspberry pi but then read about the beaglebone black, totally looks like the way to go Nov 29 00:35:25 ok well i had better run, the wife is up my ass for being on irc haha. thanks again for the tip. cya :P Nov 29 00:37:51 * vvu|Log nylar said the rp* word here ! Nov 29 00:45:28 his request made me think of the led cube project. http://picprojects.org.uk/projects/lc/#Circuit_Description controlling 125 led Nov 29 00:45:36 with just 8 pins. Nov 29 00:48:51 yay my pcbs shipped.. Need more boards before I sell out. tents to get people grumpy when they dont get what they want :) hint.hint. Nov 29 00:50:06 on what project are you working on ? Nov 29 00:55:07 Hmm i thought I had a pic of the panel on my site but only on fb.. sorry if you cant see it. The Serial panel that just shipped is on the right. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200101545536492&set=o.123153064361475&type=1&theater Nov 29 00:56:10 although I had them do gold plating on these. The OSP stuff has been a bit of a pain in reflow. Nov 29 00:56:51 figured I would try something different this time see if its better. Nov 29 00:57:27 alarm stuff, when i see DSC i remember about the alarm keyboards my dad has at his firm Nov 29 00:58:31 kinda alarm stuff but more about HA Nov 29 01:02:04 I am thinking about doing some drawing this weekend and make an adapter cape for the Ad2Pi and the BBB. Although this whole device tree stuff has me thinking I have some reading to do before I can make a full cape that has a chip to store the device data. Nov 29 01:03:19 there was a projet somewhere with how to do a cape Nov 29 01:03:56 s/projet/project Nov 29 01:05:34 anyone know why when i connect my beagleboard my pc doesnt detect it as a storage device Nov 29 01:07:40 subz: what os? Nov 29 01:08:32 windows 7 Nov 29 01:09:21 the leds on the bbb is blinking tho Nov 29 01:09:21 check in your device manager if you have soemthing related to the beagle Nov 29 01:09:46 i checked there was nothing Nov 29 01:10:03 do you have a serial cable ? Nov 29 01:10:08 to check the console output of the BBB ? Nov 29 01:12:29 i have this Standard FTDI Cable Nov 29 01:13:10 but im totalyl new to this Nov 29 01:16:56 subz: can you connect to it via ethernet? Nov 29 01:20:08 at the moment no because i do not have any more ethernet cables Nov 29 01:21:05 if you have an ftdi ttl serial cable you can connect to the serial console and see whats up. Also you could eliminate the windows variable by booting knoppix. Nov 29 01:41:52 ok so i opened up putty Nov 29 01:42:00 and i get U-Boot # Nov 29 01:42:04 what should i check next Nov 29 01:44:51 your image is not corectly flashed on the Beagle Nov 29 01:45:04 try getting the flasher image and put it on an uSD card to flash the eMMC with Angstrom Nov 29 01:51:29 how is your turkey-cape going Nov 29 02:09:54 are your keyboards all stuffed with turkey **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 29 02:59:58 2013