**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 01 02:59:58 2013 Dec 01 03:05:42 i am forced to use Angstrom on my BeagleBone Black board due to some mono issue with ubuntu for my board not working. What is upsetting is http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ has been down and not browsable to see what they offer. without that working or any type of package browser how does anyone know what works or not without writing the thing from scratch? Dec 01 03:08:00 is anyone here? Dec 01 03:08:23 am i the only one on the planet in here looking? cool! :) Dec 01 03:13:37 having problems booting from the sd card, already installed both debian and ubuntu on 2 different sd cards (4GB and 8GB), still unable to boot from the SD. Angstrom boots fine. When i press the boot button while turning on, the board does not boot. Dec 01 03:14:44 rcalderon821: how did you create the sd card? Dec 01 03:15:36 used the setup_sdcard.sh scripts on elinux.org Dec 01 03:16:04 rcalderon821: you shouldn't need to press the 'boot button' when booting from the sdcard Dec 01 03:17:32 slug: when i just let it boot when connected, it goes directly into Angstrom (i don't have any display connected, i connect via ssh) Dec 01 03:20:22 rcalderon821: which image did you download? Dec 01 03:21:39 slug: i downloaded the prebuilt image @ https://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/wheezy/debian-7.2-console-armhf-2013-11-15.tar.xz Dec 01 03:23:09 rcalderon821: i never tried debian, only ubuntu. i have 13.04 and 13.10 running on sd card and eMMC on two different BBBs Dec 01 03:23:56 rcalderon821: did you pass the correct board to setup_sdcard.sh ? sudo ./setup_sdcard.sh --mmc /dev/sdX --uboot bone Dec 01 03:24:11 rcalderon821: replace X with appropriate device of course Dec 01 03:24:49 rcalderon821: which card do you have? Dec 01 03:28:40 slug: yes, the script completes and shows everything installed on the sd card. I actually had the debian image from beaglebone linuxcnc (@ http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.mx/p/machinekit_16.html) working on a 16 GB drive; i needed the sd card for another and stopped using my beaglebone for a while. Once i tried to setup on the other sd cards, i was unable to get it to boot Dec 01 03:29:20 slug: the sd cards i've been trying to use are a 4 GB Kingston and a 8 GB Samsung Dec 01 03:29:54 rcalderon821: I meant, what dev card do you have ? Dec 01 03:31:47 slug: the board is a beaglebone black rev A5 Dec 01 03:32:17 rcalderon821: can you connect to the serial port of the card ? Dec 01 03:34:12 i don't have a serial to usb cable Dec 01 03:38:27 rcalderon821: you can try to boot your sdcard from your host computer, using qemu Dec 01 03:39:54 slug: let me try that. Thanks btw Dec 01 04:01:25 slug: currently trying to boot under qemu using qemu-system-arm -cpu cortex-a8 -kernel /sdcard_boot_partition/u-boot.img, but crashes Dec 01 04:02:39 are you passing something like: -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1" -hda /dev/sdX , replacing sda2 and sdX where appropriate ? Dec 01 04:03:45 slug: no, let me try adjusting that. First time using qemu Dec 01 04:07:39 has anybody here been using php5 on debian on the BBB? Dec 01 04:08:16 I appear to have found a bug in fopen() and I'm not sure if it's just me. Dec 01 04:09:19 canid: test code or anything to reproduce? Dec 01 04:10:43 http://pastebin.com/nJj5rEP9 Dec 01 04:11:09 I made that paste of my case, but it seems to be consistent in any use of fopen() so far Dec 01 04:13:46 fopen returns true, fgets() gives a warning, fclose() gives a warning then it closes up my tags and finishes Dec 01 04:14:16 what warning ? Dec 01 04:14:27 my ifs evaluate true, so the else is never reached, but I get no lines from the file Dec 01 04:14:30 sec Dec 01 04:15:11 fgets() expects parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given Dec 01 04:15:31 then the same for fcose Dec 01 04:15:36 *fclose() Dec 01 04:15:56 var_dump shows $fh to be bool(true) Dec 01 04:16:45 :O Dec 01 04:17:19 Sounds very weird... Dec 01 04:17:23 next I'll try opening a file I know I can't read, to make sure that is returning bool(false) properly, though I seem to remember it doing that Dec 01 04:18:19 code is wrong. its assigning the result of the test not the handle. Dec 01 04:20:00 I'll look at that harder Dec 01 04:20:42 parentheses misplaced? Dec 01 04:20:46 you need to put the assignment in paren. Dec 01 04:21:12 $fh is assigned the boolean result of the comparison. not the handle. Dec 01 04:21:13 it does return false when I try to open a file I have no permission for Dec 01 04:21:17 pl Dec 01 04:21:19 *ok Dec 01 04:22:23 cool; I got to make an ass of myself in front of everyone :P Dec 01 04:22:38 :) na been there done that.. Dec 01 04:26:31 slug: even with the arguments you suggested, the emulator still crashes Dec 01 04:27:32 rcalderon821: yeah, i was trying to do the same here, it used to work, I'm getting a crash too. odd. Dec 01 04:29:50 slug: could it had been a change on the scripts? i had a previous version that was working without a problem, but i've noticed that it always download an installer. Could it be the cause? Dec 01 04:32:41 I deleted the MMO file trying to force the boot from the sdcard, now i am also unable to access Angstrom :_( Dec 01 04:39:47 rcalderon821: i was referring to the qemu crashing, let me try with another image. I was able to boot the Angstrom image using qemu: http://stackoverflow.com/a/19679064 Dec 01 04:40:05 rcalderon821: let me try with a sdcard now Dec 01 04:55:23 rcalderon821: weird, i can boot the beaglexm image but not the beaglebone :( Dec 01 04:55:34 rcalderon821: using qemu Dec 01 04:56:37 i get something like: qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x402f0400 Dec 01 04:57:16 i have a beagle bone black and something just happened with my power supply and now when i hit the power button an led flashes on quickly then nothing else happens, do you think its bricked Dec 01 04:58:05 do you know any way to restore the MMO file on the emmc on the bone? I deleted that one and now i can't boot on sd card or the emmc Dec 01 05:00:55 rcalderon821: you will have to be able to boot something in the first place Dec 01 05:01:24 rcalderon821: or reinstall Dec 01 05:03:42 rcalderon821: you should get a serial cable, it's useful for this kind of stuff Dec 01 05:05:22 yeah, i'll order one to be prepared. should i get ready and start buying another bone, or do you think this one can still be saved? Dec 01 05:06:10 rcalderon821: i don't think there's anything wrong with your BBB Dec 01 05:06:28 rcalderon821: you can reinstall from scratch if you don't care what's in the eMMC Dec 01 05:08:14 rcalderon821: you can try this: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black : 1. wget https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/saucy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img.xz ; 2. unxz BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img.xz ; 3 . sudo dd if=./BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img of=/dev/sdX Dec 01 05:08:28 I would be surprised if it doesn't work Dec 01 05:09:26 yeah, i was working before with everything on the sdcard, so there's nothing on the emmc. I'll try that now Dec 01 05:10:00 rcalderon821: i followed this procedure for one of my BBBs and it's working fine. Dec 01 05:35:52 just pondering.. It would be easy to update the fat directly to remove the delete flag. Not likely that any blocks were reused.. Dec 01 05:43:29 slug: installed the flasher on the sd card, connected the usb cord while holding the boot button, only the power light comes on, waited for 2 minutes but none of the user lights came on Dec 01 05:44:18 rcalderon821: do you have a good power supply instead of the usb connection ? Dec 01 05:50:45 im using a power supply of a cellphone (5 v @ 1 A max) Dec 01 06:03:16 rcalderon821: all 4 lights will come on right away after power with s2 held down. If its not then its likely the image on the uSD is not correct. How did you create your uSD? Dec 01 06:08:41 Dr{Who}: used sudo dd if=./BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img of=/dev/sdb , where sdb was the uSD card Dec 01 06:09:55 maybe the img was corrupt? confirm with md5sum Dec 01 06:11:43 if we had a ttl serial it would say just guessing based upon symptoms. The boot process is well documented on the BBB. if the button is pushed it will boot from the uSD first if it sees a valid disk format. This is hard coded in ROM. Dec 01 06:15:27 verified with the md5sum, returrned the correct key; however, i did not format the sd card before using dd. I'll retry again now Dec 01 06:15:43 got my script working properly. Thanks for your held Dr{Who} Dec 01 06:15:56 canid: cool.. Dec 01 06:17:48 rcalderon821: just to confirm you did download the compressed image and then decompressed it to a .img file name? Dec 01 06:19:51 and ya formatting is not necessary. The image contains the format. The partitioning is very specific to allow uboot to find it and only a few k of code. Dec 01 06:20:08 Dr{Who}: yes. I downloaded the image using wget https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/saucy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img.xz ; after verifying the md5sum, performed unxz BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img.xz ; finally, the sudo dd if=./BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-13.10-2013-11-15.img of=/dev/sdX Dec 01 06:20:38 hmm. ok odd. sync? Dec 01 06:23:09 im sorry, what do you mean by sync? Dec 01 06:23:39 sync command to flush all bytes to the physical device. Not using Linux? Dec 01 06:24:03 I do it by habbit not sure if it is necessary but I like to know my disk are in sync :) Dec 01 06:24:05 hello Dec 01 06:24:27 i am new to board Dec 01 06:25:13 rcalderon821: when you put the disk into a system and mount it whats on first partition? Dec 01 06:25:30 should be all the uboot stuff and the kernel Dec 01 06:26:15 yes, im on Ubuntu, but still learning how to use Linux. Dec 01 06:27:03 i guess the best comparison is to use ubuntu and eject the disk. The eject in the GUI will do any syncing. Did you eject or just yank out the disk? Dec 01 06:27:42 finished doing the dd to the sd card, when mounted, shows two partitions, on the first (boot partition) shows the uboot and kernel Dec 01 06:28:16 ok unmount type "sync" in a shell as root a few times or eject the disk from the GUI. then try again. Dec 01 06:28:51 and after the dd finished, i would just yank it out as i it didn't show on the gui Dec 01 06:29:09 ok, so i perform the dd again, then sync again? Dec 01 06:29:20 I would yes. Dec 01 06:30:05 let me take a shot at it. Thanks for the help, by the way Dec 01 06:30:16 np. glad to help. Dec 01 06:44:20 lol Dec 01 06:44:44 I left more information in my paste than I should and nobody's attacked my server yet Dec 01 06:48:32 Dr{Who}: finished the dd and the sync, retried on the bone, pressing and without pressing the boot button, still no user lights turn on Dec 01 06:49:07 hmm. Dec 01 06:49:48 is this unit stand alone unplugged from a host no usb devices etc etc. Dec 01 06:50:47 also tried both ways, first with the power supply and afterwards from the usb to see if it changed. No, right now nothing is connected to the bone Dec 01 06:51:59 could you try another image. Try an angstrom image the most recent. Dec 01 06:52:17 I presume you dont have a ttl serial adapter.. Dec 01 06:58:35 i downloaded the angstrom image and currently dd to the sdcard. No, i haven't bought the ttl serial adapter but i'm right about to order one now Dec 01 07:01:53 don't get the $3 one from DX :D Dec 01 07:02:19 canid: do tell what item # Dec 01 07:02:32 sec Dec 01 07:02:44 FTDI is just up the road from me so well I like to keep it local :) Dec 01 07:03:38 yeah, since i have to have them mailed (i live on Mexico) through Newark, i'll be getting the FTDI TTL-232R-3V3 Dec 01 07:04:04 http://dx.com/p/pl2303hx-usb-to-ttl-converter-module-149859 Dec 01 07:04:52 and whats the gripe? Dec 01 07:04:56 bought two, was not able to get eiter to work at either voltage level Dec 01 07:05:03 not with any device Dec 01 07:05:23 of course they have always been excellent with fixing any problems I've had wtih DOA Dec 01 07:05:53 and it's hard to beat a lot of their prices Dec 01 07:06:52 canid: i see, they sell it for 1/8 the price of the one i ordered D: Dec 01 07:06:57 yeah Dec 01 07:07:44 I think I got my last few from DX looks similar to this that work very well. Will have to check when I get to the office. Dec 01 07:08:08 I like to try to buy cheap because I'm usually pretty poor, but I try not to get bent when it doesn't go well, and I certainly respect a business that strives to please people on another continent over a couple of bucks. Dec 01 07:13:06 well, working with high volumes, it is understandable it can happen, and more oftenly with electronics Dec 01 07:17:08 I would rather stick with the ftdi chips I guess mostly for trust of the drivers not having stuff I dont want in it. Dec 01 07:17:59 makes science Dec 01 07:19:34 I use an ftdi chip on one of my own products and though I hate the cost of the chip it just works and I dont have customers with driver issues. Dec 01 07:43:14 Dr{Who]: finally finished the dd to the sd card, tried to boot on the bone (from power supply or usb), still no reaction Dec 01 07:43:50 ran sync before removing the sd card from my laptop Dec 01 07:47:57 quit spiders! spiders! Dec 01 08:01:30 Dr{Who} and slug, thanks for help, guess i'll be wrapping it for tonight. Ordered another BBB and a FTDI serial cable, hopefully when those arrive I can continue to troubleshoot Dec 01 13:25:51 hi everyone, i was the other day speaking about the BB and the BBB in my research center when a question popped out, ¿how many BeagleBones (Black) have been sold so far?. I could just guess but maybe some of you have a more accurate answer? Dec 01 13:26:36 vmayoral: why is that of importance? Dec 01 13:26:47 it is not, it is not Dec 01 13:27:01 just wanted to throw the question here Dec 01 13:27:10 a guy asked it and i guessed around 20k units Dec 01 13:27:26 so i just wonder if my guess was accurate Dec 01 13:27:32 it's not :) Dec 01 13:27:45 last i heard was multiple times that number Dec 01 13:27:57 and that was some time ago, not including OEM and stuff Dec 01 13:28:02 of course it's multiple times that number Dec 01 13:28:12 but maybe the factor is 1 :P Dec 01 13:28:21 eh.. Dec 01 13:28:31 i see :) Dec 01 13:28:32 >_> Dec 01 13:28:39 thanks for sharing your opinion Dec 01 13:28:48 so would 100k be a good estimation? Dec 01 13:29:17 iirc it's somewhere in the range of 100k-500k for standard bbb Dec 01 13:29:30 wow... Dec 01 13:29:41 i was definitely mistaken then Dec 01 13:30:22 so then maybe we can talk about 1 million BeagleBones (black included) around the world Dec 01 13:30:42 vmayoral: i dont think so Dec 01 13:30:52 the bbb is not as popular as the rpi Dec 01 13:30:59 and they dont have as aggresive marketing Dec 01 13:31:47 throw in the beagleboard as well Dec 01 13:31:52 and xM Dec 01 13:32:13 might make it to a million then? Dec 01 13:32:23 no idea Dec 01 13:32:35 i dont know any numbers for bb bbw and bbxm Dec 01 13:53:32 Hey guys Dec 01 13:54:20 Has anyone experience with one wire? Dec 01 13:59:46 Has anyone experience with one wire? Dec 01 14:04:40 BBB_alex: no, nobody ever did anything with one wire Dec 01 14:07:14 lol Dec 01 14:08:01 well, some suicides have some experience with one wire Dec 01 14:20:40 Hi team :) Dec 01 14:21:13 Hi lone gunsman ;) Dec 01 14:21:14 Av500, Can you help me again? Dec 01 14:21:19 KoTH!!! Dec 01 14:21:21 :) Dec 01 14:21:24 hi Dec 01 14:21:59 i think av500 went to the big room with the high blue ceiling Dec 01 14:22:02 Koth, can u help me? Dec 01 14:22:06 no i cannot Dec 01 14:22:14 because i dont know what your problem is ;) Dec 01 14:22:21 omg :) Dec 01 14:22:30 i change milk to meat :) Dec 01 14:22:39 i change chocolato to meat :) Dec 01 14:22:40 that sounds better := Dec 01 14:22:46 :) Dec 01 14:22:53 but i still need to know what your problem is Dec 01 14:23:06 KoTH, i am using VisualGDB in visual studio to programmer my beaglebone Dec 01 14:23:12 C++ Dec 01 14:23:35 did all the code Dec 01 14:23:55 compiled it, ran well, but does not run on bbb Dec 01 14:24:19 well, visual studio cannot compile for linux, nor can it compile for arm Dec 01 14:24:29 you need to use a cross compiling environment Dec 01 14:24:43 in terminal, we have 2 steps, first create the file, (g++ etc etc), after, you have the second step, ./file Dec 01 14:24:48 you also need to make sure you link against the right libraries in the right versions Dec 01 14:25:12 yep Dec 01 14:25:13 are you compiling directly on the bbb? Dec 01 14:25:21 yes Dec 01 14:25:28 ah.. that solves a couple of problems Dec 01 14:25:41 what error message do you get? Dec 01 14:25:42 under linux over network Dec 01 14:26:09 no error message Dec 01 14:26:38 not only runs, it compiles but does not run Dec 01 14:26:54 what does "does not run" mean? Dec 01 14:26:57 sorry Dec 01 14:26:57 it does not run, it compiles but does not run Dec 01 14:27:06 :) yes Dec 01 14:27:24 aahh Dec 01 14:27:51 it compiles Dec 01 14:28:23 ========== Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ========== Dec 01 14:29:08 but do not want to just build, I want it to run Dec 01 14:30:03 IgorP: no pmesages unles asked to Dec 01 14:31:11 IgorP: have you tried to run your program? Dec 01 14:32:24 build is the same as running? Dec 01 14:32:31 no Dec 01 14:32:33 buld is the same as run? Dec 01 14:32:39 :) this is the problem Dec 01 14:32:43 how run? Dec 01 14:32:48 ^^' Dec 01 14:33:01 maybe you should get a book on linux basics ;) Dec 01 14:33:22 here only has: Build, debuging Dec 01 14:33:22 no no Dec 01 14:33:28 :) in linux i know Dec 01 14:33:36 http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php Dec 01 14:33:40 I know run on linux Dec 01 14:33:53 so, where is the problem? Dec 01 14:34:01 y4 Dec 01 14:34:11 oops Dec 01 14:34:22 janne: yes, that might be a very difficult problem to solve ;) Dec 01 14:34:32 I want to run the code in visual studio for bbb Dec 01 14:34:48 IgorP: forget about visual studio if you want to develop stuff for linux Dec 01 14:34:55 IgorP: visual studio is for windows only Dec 01 14:35:36 I followed this tutorial Dec 01 14:35:42 http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/beaglebone/ Dec 01 14:36:16 I will switch to linux and install the eclipse, thanks Koth Dec 01 14:36:23 wtf? Dec 01 14:36:39 i knew that there are people who like to hurt themselves... but.. this... Dec 01 14:36:48 ^^; Dec 01 14:37:16 IgorP: also learn to run gdb directly Dec 01 14:37:39 IgorP: it might be not as user friendly as with a frontend, but you get around a lot of problems these frontends have with embedded systems Dec 01 14:39:32 Anyone has some idea how well android runs on the bbb? Dec 01 14:40:23 Kernle: imho, 4.x not that good. it feels slow as hell Dec 01 14:46:58 Hmm, okay :/ Dec 01 14:49:53 hahhaeh...koth :) Dec 01 14:49:53 run gdb i will search Dec 01 14:58:22 ragnar76: Are there other android distris then 4.x? Dec 01 14:58:57 i think a 2.x is out there Dec 01 14:59:14 Hm :S Dec 01 15:43:32 anyone has a link to the angstrom toolchain ? Dec 01 15:43:42 website is moving and i cannot find the toolchains :( Dec 01 16:07:06 Hello everybody! I am novice in beaglebone. I want to use it in my project with my own pcb. I had a question about wire DDR_A15. Pin M7 DDR3 (U12) is not connected (NC in datasheet). I think I can ignore wire DDR_A15. Dec 01 16:09:24 Am I wrong? Dec 01 16:10:01 * KotH has no idea Dec 01 16:10:11 but if the TRM says you dont need it, then you dont need it Dec 01 16:17:03 * Kernle throws his RaPi out of the window Dec 01 16:17:19 Now its the RaPis turn to instill my anger :S Dec 01 16:17:55 same problems as the BBB ? Dec 01 16:37:50 Hi Dec 01 16:39:40 which wifi dongle you advise me to buy for BBB? Dec 01 16:40:39 one that works with linuc Dec 01 16:40:41 one that works with linux Dec 01 16:42:58 i need use it like wifi Access Point Dec 01 16:43:12 then get one that can work as an access point Dec 01 16:45:11 do you know same? Dec 01 16:45:52 there are lists of which chipsets support that Dec 01 16:45:55 google for it Dec 01 16:46:14 ok thANKS Dec 01 17:31:34 vvu|Log: Nah... different problems, same scale Dec 01 17:37:48 At least I got my android testcase working on the BBB. Thats something refreshingly new Dec 01 17:47:57 Kernle: what is the intended goal of doing your evaluations? Dec 01 17:51:05 <_SY_> hello Dec 01 17:51:27 prpplague: Comparing a BBB and RaPi. But it seems we picked all the wrong test cases. But nothing works as intended. Dec 01 17:54:42 Kernle: yes, but i mean why compare the two? Dec 01 17:56:13 No idea prpplague. Its just one of the projects we could choose from. I was forced to choose this, as my original project was not feasible with uni hardware *grrmm Dec 01 17:56:43 Most projects were like "Do x with board y", while y was Arduino, RaPi or BBB. Dec 01 18:24:11 Kernle: yea, it's just odd because doing any type of comparison between RPi and BBB is like comparing a minicooper to a F-150 pickup, the comparison just isn't there Dec 01 18:24:47 the BBB is the pickup? Dec 01 18:25:09 Defiant: yea Dec 01 18:25:29 just gets better mileage. :) Dec 01 18:29:37 emeb: hehe Dec 01 19:38:36 are there any topics to look for master thesis that's related to bb? it would be nice to do some open source project as thesis Dec 01 19:41:07 hitlin37: pretty much an wide open field Dec 01 19:41:07 Compiler for the PRU. Dec 01 19:42:43 prpplague: but i need a mentor as well. Dec 01 19:43:15 plus topics related to multimedia and embedded stuff Dec 01 19:46:53 hitlin37: I thought thesis work was done with a mentor from your faculty. Dec 01 19:47:09 Pretty sure you should talk to your school if you need a mentor for that. Dec 01 19:47:52 ya, i do have a prof from my univ but it has kind of stuff to have a company involved as well. Dec 01 19:49:07 Well, good luck finding that here. Dec 01 19:49:18 IRC channels != companies typically. Dec 01 19:58:21 hitlin37: ARM offers thesis work to students I believe. Dec 01 19:58:27 they have student programs. Dec 01 19:58:53 and my university is in a partnership with ARM that somehow involves us getting beagle boards. Dec 01 19:59:00 so idk, might be worth looking into. Dec 01 20:02:43 thanks honestly . Is there any link to look or just the arm website directly. Dec 01 20:03:21 I might still have a flyer from arm about that, lemme check Dec 01 20:03:59 <_av500_> hitlin37: what uni are you at now? Dec 01 20:04:05 * _av500_ forgot Dec 01 20:04:07 kth Dec 01 20:04:14 dark city Dec 01 20:04:19 <_av500_> right Dec 01 20:06:00 hitlin37: haven't found anything Dec 01 20:06:14 np Dec 01 20:06:16 so you'll have to look yourself Dec 01 20:07:19 http://www.arm.com/about/careers/students/index.php Dec 01 20:07:22 there's this Dec 01 20:08:01 no idea if they will let you do a thesis Dec 01 20:11:34 thanks honestly . i'll look it. Dec 01 20:42:10 Okay. So I got my BBB Android benchresults. Not that bad. I mean, for not having hardware acceleration (3.8 kernel). Question now - is there a prebuild android image which does have hardware acceleration? Dec 01 20:51:42 hi Dec 01 20:51:48 anybody knows who's behind http://dev.ardupilot.com/wiki/building-for-beaglebone-black-on-linux/? Dec 01 20:52:49 where is the best place to post BeagleBone jobs? Dec 01 20:53:46 hii Dec 01 20:54:03 ollym: not that i'm an expert but the people around here knows quite a bit about the topic Dec 01 20:54:27 ollym: you probably might find the right person here if you're looking to hire somebody. Dec 01 20:54:35 i would post it here i think Dec 01 20:55:09 can any one say that where can I get the armstrong toolchain Dec 01 20:55:12 ? Dec 01 20:56:04 the link u have suggested isn't opening http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ Dec 01 20:56:50 vmayoral: as in post it in this IRC channel? I was going to post it in the mailing list but there doesn't appear to be a jobs board Dec 01 20:57:14 wondered whether there may be somewhere else, but no worries, i'll just post it in the mailing list Dec 01 20:57:48 help me to find toolchain please Dec 01 20:58:23 ollym: yeap, i guess the mailing lists is a good place as well, do that ;) Dec 01 20:59:24 bikash: try starting from here https://github.com/angstrom-distribution/setup-scripts Dec 01 21:00:14 anyhow, even if the angstrom's web is down, i believe there're quite a lot of posts around the web that explain how to set it up Dec 01 21:00:30 bikash: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ and then ya the git project. Dec 01 21:01:08 didn't know that was available, nice! Dec 01 21:03:06 yas some broken links but its a good starting point. Dec 01 21:07:52 Is the debian port a complete distrom or is it more of a demo ? Dec 01 21:07:57 *disto, or Dec 01 21:08:34 i've also heard reports that I'm better off using angstrom if I want a desktop Dec 01 21:08:50 any truth to this? Dec 01 21:09:15 debian is debian. Dec 01 21:09:36 so the arm port isn't crippled? Dec 01 21:10:21 like in most major distros, there are things that are not available for arm. but mostly those are things that either upstream does not provide (if binary) or things that just don't compile on arches other than x86 Dec 01 21:10:39 like, no virtualbox for arm. Dec 01 21:10:44 or no flash player. Dec 01 21:10:58 or pci bus :) Dec 01 21:11:22 thats fine. i suppose i just need to use it as a lamp server and occasionally web browse Dec 01 21:11:27 Dr{Who}: hm, thats not particularly true. just because the beagle family has none ;) Dec 01 21:13:09 LetoThe2nd: :) ya it can and has been faked to help trick utils that depened on it. I seem to recall having to build / patch something that would not work because of pci deps. Dec 01 21:13:52 Dr{Who}: i don't know what you are talking about, but there are arm platforms that have pci interconnects. Dec 01 21:15:31 and if something does not build because of having a "hardware" dependency, then having it work without that dependency is either bugfix or feature, depending on POV. but thats totally distro/arch agnostic. Dec 01 21:15:59 LetoThe2nd: That would be cool and ya I dont see why not its just a bus. I was referring to angstrom and bbb or was it Ubuntu i forget anyway some utils very useful for an OS were excluded because of them being broken if no Pci bus interface exists Dec 01 21:16:41 Dr{Who}: like i said - bug/feature. depends. Dec 01 21:17:25 anywas - off again. Dec 01 21:55:24 * Kernle throws his BBB.... no wait, he doesn't Dec 01 21:59:12 * _av500_ does not care Dec 01 21:59:26 :( Dec 01 21:59:29 * Kernle cares Dec 01 22:01:23 how long does the bbb take to start flashing ? I've had the userboot button pressed for almost 2 min and haven't seen the four leds give thir initial blink yet. Dec 01 22:02:04 does it matter that i put the image on a 16g card? Dec 01 22:02:22 penth: doesn't matter, but did you uncompress it before? Dec 01 22:02:58 yes. wrote the image to the bard w dd and confirmed it in the desktop Dec 01 22:03:09 s/bard/card/ Dec 01 22:03:27 penth: are the leds blinking at all? Dec 01 22:03:39 no, just steady power Dec 01 22:04:10 * penth hopes it's not bricked Dec 01 22:21:10 making another card. fingers crossed Dec 01 22:29:40 penth: https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs Dec 01 22:30:07 if your board goes into usb boot mode you can flash it with this Dec 01 22:30:17 ~15 mins flash Dec 01 22:33:31 Is it really safe to put a BBB in an Altoids tin? Wouldn't the solder on the bottom of the PCB come in contact with the metal and cause a short? Dec 01 22:34:22 I put a plastic card in the bottom of the tin but I'm still skeptical Dec 01 22:39:51 Any idea what to do if the BBB wont flash any light when trying to boot from SD? Dec 01 22:40:08 Kernle: have a serial cable aroun ? Dec 01 22:43:22 vvu|Log: Nope Dec 01 22:43:51 anyone here using a bbb? Dec 01 22:44:11 try and put the flasher on the SD card Dec 01 22:46:04 vvu|Log: It boots okay from eMMC. I might have just messed up the SD flash. I will try to flash the SD again. Dec 01 22:49:33 yeah...flash the SD Dec 01 22:52:16 Uhm.... ;-) Dec 01 22:56:03 I ofc meant just writing the image to the sd card Dec 01 23:01:39 m( ... and no wonder a BB image is not booting on a BBB Dec 01 23:18:32 wrote an 8gb card with the 6-20 image and flashing fine Dec 01 23:18:41 so my 16 needs a rewrite Dec 01 23:22:46 My laptop just overheated again. Just by downloading the rowboat repository. I REALLY need a Linux VM. Dec 01 23:44:08 Hello. Just downloaded an armhf precompiled ubuntu image to an sdcard for use in my BBB. Booted it up and all blue lights stay lit. No signs of life in my box :-(. I have used this sd card before successfully, anybody got any suggestions? Dec 01 23:48:36 Anybody know where I can find ways of debugging beagle bone black boot process without a serial cable? Possible? Dec 01 23:49:25 <_av500_> sure Dec 01 23:49:31 <_av500_> but serial is the simplest way Dec 01 23:50:44 I wish I had one! Unfortunately all I have with me at my office is various usb cables, 5v power cord, sd cards and readers, ethernet cables, and my laptop. Dec 01 23:52:13 do you think its worth investigating other methods or just purchase a serial cable and figure it out later? Dec 01 23:54:04 Compiling rowboat: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tousykrb3zs83xj/2013-12-02%2000.49.45.jpg Dec 01 23:59:39 noob question: does the user/boot button actually make the beagle bone black boot from an sd card? Every tutorial I have found says that you have to press the button to boot off the card, yet my BBB has always booted an sd card automatically. What gives? Dec 02 00:20:22 swilshy, just a guess from my limited experience with it, but I thought the boot button causes it to write the image from the SD card to the built in storage. Dec 02 00:26:44 tabbek: was not patient enough for an answer :) but it actually tells the onboard rom to change boot order to load from uSD before onboard emmc. os will run from uSD yet bootloading still happens on eMMC if the button is not pushed and the uSD card is inserted. Dec 02 00:29:27 * vvu|Log thinks that this weekend question on #beagle was how to boot the BBB Dec 02 00:31:42 :) Dec 02 00:40:03 I wonder. A few people have had seemingly bricked bbb and no serial adapter to fix. I wonder if they are having issues loading from recover uSD because of something going on with USART2. Dec 02 00:51:04 Dr{Who}: i don't think the flasher does something with UART1-5 except than UART0 which is the default console Dec 02 01:15:23 vvu|Log: this is what I have found and documented -> button down boot order SPI0 (expansion 'UART2'), MMC0 (SD card), USB0 , UART0 Dec 02 01:32:58 Hey all! Playing with my new beaglebone black, also learning Linux. Think I need to "facorty reset" the filesystem. How best to go about getting this back to square one? Dec 02 01:41:33 Dr{Who}: yep true but the timeout is really small Dec 02 01:52:07 ya that makes sense. Reading on how to control reset and boot order via GPIO pins. interesting stuff to automate this process externally. Dec 02 02:37:33 Dr{Who}: best is to look into the sitara evm platoforms, the dev boards Dec 02 02:43:52 I just realized... the Galaxy Tab Wifi has pretty much the same hardware as the BBB. Hasn't it? Dec 02 02:47:58 Kernle: which one are you speaking about ? Dec 02 02:49:41 vvu|Log: spendy stuff. i was referring to this doc http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/BeagleBone_in_a_Board_Farm Dec 02 02:50:11 Kernle: schematics link :) nummy treat for my brain **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 02 02:59:58 2013