**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 12 02:59:59 2013 Dec 12 06:26:04 can you please tel me how to access ssh for bbb board to instaal python library?? Dec 12 06:44:44 how does one query a gpio to see if something is connected to it? ie. I have sensor's plugged in via rj11 jacks. I want to know if a sensor it abscent or connected. Dec 12 06:45:02 *is Dec 12 06:52:20 sheldonw: ??? Dec 12 06:53:35 I would like to detect whether or not something is plugged in or not basically in general terms. Dec 12 06:53:37 how to instaal python library in beaglebone black.. i have connected the bbb to my windows system.. Dec 12 06:56:15 sheldonw: that depends very much on what is connected Dec 12 06:57:05 i2cdetect -y -r 3 is probably my best option I guess. Dec 12 06:57:47 not on GPIOs Dec 12 06:58:02 hrmm... okay. Dec 12 06:59:21 what sensor? Dec 12 06:59:32 well various ones actually. Dec 12 07:01:39 DS18B20(Temp. sensor) is what I can currently working with. Dec 12 07:02:22 In general, if you have sensors hooked up, I think the best you can do is see if you're actually getting readings from them Dec 12 07:03:32 jpfau: yeah, that makes sense. was just wondering if there was a more direct way of detecting if it's connected or not. Dec 12 07:04:00 Given what GPIO *is*, I don't believe so Dec 12 07:04:22 coolio's, saves me hours of trying to figure that out! heh, thanks. Dec 12 07:06:09 DS18B20 is a one wire sensor Dec 12 07:06:17 one wire sensors can be "discovered" Dec 12 07:06:31 using the protocol Dec 12 07:10:29 how to instaal python library in beaglebone black.. by connecting the bbb with linux pc only we can able to install? Dec 12 07:13:51 av500: thanks, I'll just have to stick with the original plan and work with each device/sensor independantly. Dec 12 07:14:57 was just hoping for a more system level way of detection... thanks for you time all. Dec 12 07:17:01 as said Dec 12 07:17:06 one wire allows you to detect Dec 12 07:17:15 what more do you want? Dec 12 07:20:31 jeez sorry for asking Dec 12 07:28:58 no need to be Dec 12 07:29:14 just trying to understand what you want Dec 12 07:37:46 me to! heh. sorry for the confusion and thanks for the info. Dec 12 08:38:22 Hello! I am playing with I2C on BeagleBone (white) with Debian (image from armhf.com). I have I2C device connected to it but i2cdetect -r 0/1 gives me no response. What am I doign wrong? Pull-ups are ok, the device is tested with different board. Dec 12 09:30:22 Is that possible to connect a USB hub to beaglebone white Dec 12 09:32:58 yes Dec 12 09:34:04 I connected the hub to BB..but my USB device is not getting detected Dec 12 09:34:58 any driver required? Dec 12 10:54:52 hi All, Dec 12 10:56:52 I'm unable to use beaglebone_white's GPIO P8-6 (gpio 1_3 / gpmc_ad3) Dec 12 10:57:23 When I set echo 35 > /sys/class/gpio/export it answers back : Dec 12 10:57:40 echo: write error: Device or resource busy Dec 12 10:58:01 from : cat /sys/kernel/debug/gpio : Dec 12 10:58:16 gpio-35 (w1 ) in hi Dec 12 10:58:35 is there any application using natively that pin ?? Dec 12 11:39:13 I'm having issues with hot plugging a USB device, is anyone here that can help me? Dec 12 11:52:22 Rick_, just describe the issue Dec 12 11:52:31 if someone has an idea they will speak up Dec 12 11:56:17 I've just finished writing a post on the forum so I'll link to that once it's been approved Dec 12 11:56:51 I think the story is a bit too long to be able to discuss it in this chat while others possibly discuss something else at the same time Dec 12 12:09:25 what forum? Dec 12 12:10:01 http://beagleboard.org/Community/Forums Dec 12 12:10:52 great. often people are talking about e2e when not being specific Dec 12 12:11:23 Sorry what? Dec 12 12:11:42 http://e2e.ti.com/ Dec 12 12:12:02 but if you say beagle, they throw you out Dec 12 12:12:56 Lol that seems kind of pathetic Dec 12 12:14:05 well I kinda understand it, beagle is an "end user device" of a sorts, not an evaluation kit Dec 12 12:14:32 it's not a TI product, so it seems simple to me Dec 12 12:14:41 people get confused because it has a TI SoC on it Dec 12 12:14:42 e2e is for professionals Dec 12 12:14:46 lol Dec 12 12:15:09 Anyways I'm gonna dump the post in here, it's a long story so please bare with me: Dec 12 12:15:15 pastebin Dec 12 12:15:20 if its really long Dec 12 12:15:24 one per chapter Dec 12 12:15:25 Ok sure Dec 12 12:15:42 Why one per chapter Dec 12 12:15:42 ? Dec 12 12:15:46 it was a joke Dec 12 12:15:49 :D Dec 12 12:15:50 long story Dec 12 12:16:02 Rick_: there are known issues with usb plugging Dec 12 12:16:14 I have no idea what the current status is Dec 12 12:16:38 not sure dropping a long story here will help much Dec 12 12:17:05 rather wait for jkridner Dec 12 12:17:12 and ask him directly Dec 12 12:17:47 jkridner.join() Dec 12 12:17:56 http://pastebin.com/m1z57Rz9 Dec 12 12:18:51 Well there's the link anyway, you're not inclined to help me just help me if you've got time for it and thanks in advance Dec 12 12:19:43 you're the first person I've seen claiming that hot plugging usb devices has worked at any point in time :) Dec 12 12:20:48 Yeah that is kind of weird isn't it Dec 12 12:21:19 And that's mostly why I'm so confused right now Dec 12 12:23:20 it was on your rpi Dec 12 12:24:02 No haha Dec 12 12:24:43 out of curiosity, what are you hotplugging? Dec 12 12:25:03 dongles Dec 12 12:25:11 ah. dem donglez. Dec 12 12:26:05 plug to all the socketz Dec 12 12:27:19 Vaizki, people claim that hotplugging works on other boards at least..and they are correct Dec 12 12:28:14 Storage Dec 12 12:28:23 It's a storage device Dec 12 12:28:31 Other boards as in bbw & xm? Dec 12 12:29:01 Rick_, so it once worked for you on "some image", yes? Dec 12 12:29:49 Yes, and I don't know what image because it's the one that got shipped with my BeagleBone Black Dec 12 12:30:28 you could try blindly flashing some older images assuming they are archived well Dec 12 12:30:42 see if you can find one that works similarly Dec 12 12:31:20 Something older than june 20th? I thought they shipped BeagleBone Blacks with up to date images? Dec 12 12:31:44 I did not get hotplugging to work with my bbb on stock ångström Dec 12 12:31:58 the problem with the musb on am335x and Bone is that the kernel has been in flux for 2 years non-stop in that area. Dec 12 12:32:27 you may find images where certain things start and stop working as patches were merged to fix one thing or another Dec 12 12:33:08 Rick_, any BBB I ever received always had out of date images ... that's how manufacturing goes Dec 12 12:33:32 it's always going to be far older than what the latest is for d/l Dec 12 12:34:03 so if you got it in june...start trying archived images older than that until you find the one with similar characteristics for your dongles Dec 12 12:34:21 Ok so Dec 12 12:34:24 the usb issues vary depending on what devices are in play Dec 12 12:34:25 I've got a plan Dec 12 12:34:34 Thanks guys I'll explain in 30 mins got a meeting right now Dec 12 12:34:37 But it's a solid plan Dec 12 13:08:29 Back Dec 12 13:08:56 So here's what I'm going to do: Dec 12 13:09:33 Appearently (I just found out about this) we bought 2 BeagleBone Blacks at the same time Dec 12 13:10:12 And the other BeagleBone Black hasn't been used yet Dec 12 13:10:43 I'm going to test if USB hot plugging works on that BBB and if it does I'm going to find out what image it is running on Dec 12 13:11:57 I will report the results, and hopefully we'll actually know a version where USB hot plugging does works then Dec 12 13:22:33 Rick_, if your un-updated BBB has a working image then check the version this way: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Updating_The_Software#Checking_The_Angstrom_Image_Version Dec 12 13:22:48 then you can roll that updated one back to that version Dec 12 13:24:46 Ok thx :) Dec 12 14:37:12 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 2 new commits to 3.12: http://git.io/qV2N6w Dec 12 14:37:12 kernel/3.12 8f50cd9 Cody Lacey: Audio-Add Support for Analog Audio on 3.12... Dec 12 14:37:12 kernel/3.12 2668e15 Robert Nelson: Merge pull request #81 from clacey09/3.12... Dec 12 14:41:20 hi #beagle ... thanks for 3B! Dec 12 14:42:04 well there is not anymore 3B arround the world to buy ... ... but thanks! Dec 12 14:42:58 bbbuy 3BBB? Dec 12 14:43:23 BeagleBone Black ... BBB ...3B Dec 12 14:43:40 there are BBBs being made every day Dec 12 14:43:41 Out of stock all arround the world! Dec 12 14:43:42 in 3 shifts Dec 12 14:44:22 xmas is comming Dec 12 14:44:27 a lot of socks to be stuffed Dec 12 14:54:56 \o\ \o/ /o/ \o/ Yes just find one \o/ OMGNU \o\ \o/ /o/ Dec 12 14:55:16 one week to stand now to receive it ... -_- Dec 12 14:57:43 the BBBs were stuffed by the chimney with care in hopes that Boris Houndleroy soon would be there Dec 12 15:25:37 aurelien: I was going to buy 1 or 2 to fill up my Mouser order.. but out of stock.. and 13950 on order :) Dec 12 15:25:54 apparently the BBB is selling pretty well for Mouser to order 14k of them Dec 12 15:27:24 Vaizki: yesterday the french reseller shop was out of stock today's it works ... follow the link on the beagleboard.org Dec 12 15:28:15 in fact yesterd all european reseller was out of stock Dec 12 15:28:27 well I don't really need more this year.. but Mouser ships for free >65 euros orders so I wanted to add a BBB to reach that :) Dec 12 15:29:45 BBB as padding Dec 12 15:30:40 Anyone using web interface with gpio? Dec 12 15:30:56 with gmail Dec 12 15:30:56 BBB as introduction to mechatronics ... should be great Dec 12 15:31:03 av500: well I know I will need one in march :) Dec 12 15:40:26 http://irmtl.com/BBB/BBBgpio.txt Can someone help me out with this code. IT is not working properly. Relay 1 works fine but relay 2 doesnt do anything, and changes relay 1 label back to off. Dec 12 15:42:41 BBBB Dec 12 15:43:45 CCCCCCCC Dec 12 15:43:55 I need to get 4 relays working from the web interface Dec 12 15:44:46 IS there another way to do this? The WEBIO with py doesnt work with 3.8 Dec 12 15:44:55 check pinmux Dec 12 15:44:58 it's always pinmuxing Dec 12 15:45:53 the problem is the php programming..... Dec 12 15:46:07 the problem is php Dec 12 15:46:53 gpio 68 is working fine the first relay and php Dec 12 15:47:21 and you've verified gpio 44 is working fine too, of course Dec 12 15:47:51 no. Dec 12 15:47:59 but you told me the problem is php Dec 12 15:48:01 it is not working Dec 12 15:48:18 clearly you already isolated the problem to your web programming Dec 12 15:48:24 and not what I suggested you check Dec 12 15:48:41 that is the other problem.havent looked into it yet, but if I swap gpio 68 and 44 in the php, 68 doesnt work in the 2nd slot Dec 12 15:49:34 ok, I'll get another gpio working..... brb Dec 12 15:49:51 I'm suggesting you break the problem down to simple chunks Dec 12 15:50:06 can you echo both gpios on/off from the cmdline? Dec 12 15:50:13 yes Dec 12 15:50:18 the fundamentals working and those relays both work Dec 12 15:50:35 yeah, so you probably need to look up how to debug php code effectively Dec 12 15:52:25 you seem to not have a beagle specific issue so you might get better help from the php community Dec 12 15:53:24 ##php, for example Dec 12 15:53:51 Have you tried talking to those guys? Dec 12 15:54:04 I don't do php Dec 12 15:54:07 no need Dec 12 15:54:21 hehe..... It's not pretty Dec 12 15:54:33 have you tried talking to people on #beagle, also not pretty Dec 12 15:54:46 it may be that your question is better asked of google/stack overflow Dec 12 15:55:07 tbh, it sounds like a fundamental coding issue likely resolved by a basic php tutorial Dec 12 15:55:07 you guys are quite helpful Dec 12 15:55:33 we do our very best Dec 12 15:55:58 we get paid by the helpdesk ticket closed Dec 12 15:56:07 appreciate the feedback Dec 12 15:57:20 Yeah, I'm not a programming guy. I'm a teacher, and trying to get this to where we have a fun project in the new year for the kids Dec 12 15:58:09 won't somedy please think of the children ? Dec 12 15:58:30 I'll do some more research in php, I thought there would be more info, docs, projects on energizing relays via web with BBB Dec 12 15:58:53 The only one I found didnt work with the new 3.8 kernel Dec 12 16:00:42 R2E4_, there's stuff about doing it in Bonescript as that is the pet project of jkridner here Dec 12 16:00:53 er, javascript Dec 12 16:12:03 Macla Dec 12 16:12:08 you were right, gpio44 is used Dec 12 16:17:13 finally my bbb shipped Dec 12 16:37:46 join #php Dec 12 16:38:14 no way, pal! join #perl! Dec 12 16:39:27 no one for #python ?? Dec 12 16:40:00 xD Dec 12 17:25:35 hello , ive got my beaglebone black , its seems its cannot be displayed on my LCD-Tv (hdmi) , yes ive checked the issuese , yes ive tried the force rosulotion , yet it cant be displyed on my Tv , any hint ? Dec 12 17:30:13 hello ? Dec 12 17:40:36 Got it working in #php. Thanks guys Dec 12 17:53:34 R2E4_, np Dec 12 17:53:43 * mdp closes the ticket Dec 12 17:56:47 * R2E4_ reopens tickets, places itin standby.... Dec 12 18:07:26 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/Ubvw9g Dec 12 18:07:26 kernel/3.12 76d36c2 Robert Nelson: 3.12: update to v3.12.5... Dec 12 19:29:45 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/nK7zHQ Dec 12 19:29:45 kernel/3.12 f803c5b Robert Nelson: 3.12: add cpufreq for bones... Dec 12 19:30:21 hi everybody! has anyone experienced random mouse cursor jumps and inaccurate click recognisitions when using lcd7 cape? Dec 12 19:40:17 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/mNS5XA Dec 12 19:40:18 kernel/3.12 3cf601f Robert Nelson: 3.12: add cpufreq notes... Dec 12 19:47:24 Can I connect an arduino the the USB host connector on the BBB? Where would I look for the serial output of the arduino in /dev/ Dec 12 19:48:26 I'm guessing my other option is I could connect the TX and RX from the arduino to one of the BBB's serial ports. Dec 12 19:49:23 <_av500_> yes Dec 12 19:49:29 <_av500_> do that Dec 12 19:51:13 the later? Dec 12 19:54:58 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/GszIHw Dec 12 19:54:58 kernel/3.12 2b15e82 Robert Nelson: 3.12: black: use 1.325v over 1.350v... Dec 12 19:56:00 <_av500_> cstcyr: is Arduino 5V or 3.3? Dec 12 19:56:07 <_av500_> if 5V, you need level shifters Dec 12 19:56:43 the former is far simpler to start with Dec 12 19:57:29 oh right Dec 12 19:57:43 if you choose the former case to start, you'll see a ttyACM? instance in /dev/ Dec 12 19:58:09 yeah ttyACM0 Dec 12 19:58:15 it works exactly like an x86 linux host so the tutorials on using arduino on a linux pc host all apply here Dec 12 19:58:46 you can run the full arduino ide on a BBB if you'd like Dec 12 19:58:47 probably want to switch to DC power Dec 12 19:58:53 yes Dec 12 19:59:28 it was working for a bit and now the power is not getting to the arduino Dec 12 19:59:35 I'll switch to DC now Dec 12 20:46:35 Is there boards available to buy in bulk? Dec 12 20:49:32 talk to circuitco about white label beaglebones Dec 12 20:55:57 hey everyone Dec 12 20:56:36 can i use the UARt pinout with ttl or 3,3 levels? Dec 12 20:56:56 3.3V should be fine. Dec 12 20:57:17 i have a rs232 to ttl converter Dec 12 20:57:20 can i use it Dec 12 20:57:25 output of bbb will be fine Dec 12 20:57:32 but 5v rxd bb? Dec 12 20:58:16 might burn the uart, you're on your own (whenyou send 5v to the bbb) Dec 12 20:59:09 will a voltage devider work here? Dec 12 21:00:57 or 2 diodes in series? Dec 12 21:07:20 divider might work Dec 12 21:08:13 could get a $3 max3232 3.3v tolerant converter from aliexpress Dec 12 21:10:01 yeah but i want to use it right now Dec 12 21:11:23 where is it possible to buy that cape? http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Inertial_Navigation_System_Cape Dec 12 21:11:39 or maybe the BBB include it? Dec 12 21:12:18 no guarantees, but I have one BBB sitting here with a max232 powered off the +5v rail on a breadboard running for a year now Dec 12 21:12:27 aurelien: that functionality is NOT included on the Bealgebone Black. The manufacturer's website is listed at the end of that page Dec 12 21:12:30 no divider Dec 12 21:13:07 heh, no gaurantees. If I see that come in for RMA I'll know who you are :) Dec 12 21:13:08 maxmatteo, but YMMV..in theory it's dangerous Dec 12 21:13:43 carpman, they does not seems to sell that stuff anymore :-/ Dec 12 21:13:44 carpman, I just swapped a 3232 in..completely forgot about it ;) Dec 12 21:14:13 aurelien: all I can suggest is to email them and ask about it. Dec 12 21:15:35 ok thanks carpman Dec 12 21:16:02 any ideas what i can do? Dec 12 21:16:15 have some basic parts laying around here Dec 12 21:16:52 maxmatteo: got any FETs? https://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/datasheets/BreakoutBoards/Logic_Level_Converter.pdf Dec 12 21:17:13 <_av500_> or series resistors Dec 12 21:17:50 hello , ive got my beaglebone black , its seems its cannot be displayed on my LCD-Tv (hdmi) , yes ive checked the issuese , yes ive tried the force rosulotion , yet it cant be displyed on my Tv , any hint ? Dec 12 21:18:54 must_know: have you tried it on another tv? Dec 12 21:19:13 yes , did not work too , so far 4 tvs Dec 12 21:19:56 i didnt insert an uSD , it has a built in linux os right ? Dec 12 21:20:06 the black does, yes Dec 12 21:20:21 hi! does any1 know if the jitter problem concerning various lcd capes has been solved by now? :) Dec 12 21:20:44 cant see it on TV , only when i use self boot such windows access via usb.. Dec 12 21:21:05 maxmatteo, your divider idea has one endorsement..that's the simplest from parts laying about Dec 12 21:21:51 i have this chip here on another circuit maybe i can hook it directly to this ic? Dec 12 21:21:53 http://pdf1.alldatasheet.net/datasheet-pdf/view/45912/SIPEX/SP232EEN.html Dec 12 21:21:54 i even tryed to edit the uENV file.. nothing happened Dec 12 21:24:40 carman any idea's ? Dec 12 21:25:42 carpman * Dec 12 21:27:40 do you think that can make the trick (works as the INS cape) and works with a BBB? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10736 Dec 12 21:28:41 carpman any idea Dec 12 21:29:28 oh yes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRhQeZoEr0U Dec 12 21:29:36 great! great! great! Dec 12 21:29:57 must_know_: sorry, no Dec 12 21:31:03 ive used an new micro hdmi cable , its new , but just ordered a new one let see it its works Dec 12 21:38:34 I am looking for a small Linux board to drive a sensor board. Need USB to connect sensor and WIFI to communicate with base. Hope to login to board from base and monitor programs there (i.e. nodirect display attached). Any ideas onb which Beagle board or any other best for this app? Dec 12 21:40:34 khjones: beaglebone black with a usb wifi should do the trick Dec 12 21:41:38 any1 here using an lcd7 cape? Dec 12 21:59:37 hey everyone Dec 12 21:59:47 if i want to power the bbb with 5v but not using the power jasck Dec 12 21:59:51 what pins should i use? Dec 12 22:02:16 can i use pin 5 /6 for raw 5v input? Dec 12 22:05:45 maxmatteo: according to the schematics: http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/a3/Docs/Hardware/BONE_SCH.pdf, it should work Dec 12 22:07:50 yeah i checked that too Dec 12 22:07:55 tryied it a sec ago Dec 12 22:07:57 working fine Dec 12 22:08:04 and to power the device with an external button Dec 12 22:08:27 pull pin 9 high? Dec 12 22:08:30 with pulldown Dec 12 22:08:37 or what? Dec 12 22:09:12 ah okay "PWR_BUT is a 5V level as pulled up internally by the TPS65217C. It is activated by pulling the signal to GND." Dec 12 22:18:35 maxmatteo: from what i can tell, the power button is all broken for turning the beaglebone back on with 5v external applied Dec 12 22:18:48 so, if you poweroff, then hit the power button to turn it back on, nothing happens. Dec 12 22:19:10 maybe there's a way to reset the pmic before powering off with i2c commands or something...i haven't looked yet. Dec 13 01:53:10 Hmmm Dec 13 01:53:50 hello, I am a new user to the beagle bone and I have recently tried to enable internet access on my beaglebone through the usb port Dec 13 01:55:35 I used the following website for reference:http://lanceme.blogspot.com/2013/06/windows-7-internet-sharing-for.html Dec 13 01:56:11 The pi USB power port has no connections to it other than power Dec 13 01:56:13 In there he says to click "Optain an IP address automatically" Dec 13 01:56:16 The above can't work. Dec 13 01:56:33 Err Dec 13 01:56:35 Ingore me. Dec 13 01:56:39 okay Dec 13 01:56:46 I thought I was in a different channel that you can probably guess Dec 13 01:57:10 So I was, at one point, able to ping websites using the guy website above's method Dec 13 01:59:35 I moved the beaglebone over to another computer to show a friend that it pinged, and when we tried to set it up, the beaglebone would not allow us to access 192.168.7.2 at all Dec 13 02:00:37 With the same OS? Dec 13 02:00:48 I need to restore the Linux USB ethernet/RNDIS Gadget local area connection settings to its original state Dec 13 02:00:52 Yes Dec 13 02:01:22 This person had run the beaglebone on his computer before (so all drivers were installed and working) Dec 13 02:04:47 Out of Box Empty files Dec 13 02:05:08 Xerlogix what do you mean Dec 13 02:05:33 Opened the card, Start.htm is empty Dec 13 02:05:57 README is also empty Dec 13 02:06:15 I can open those Dec 13 02:06:40 Autorun, ID and License also empty; zero bytes Dec 13 02:07:36 I see those, I am not sure what you are asking me to do Dec 13 02:08:00 Is there somewhere I can download these files? Dec 13 02:08:19 oh not sure Dec 13 02:08:28 sorry I am kinda lost as well Dec 13 02:09:15 I have some doc, will connect to the internet later and just proceed. Dec 13 02:09:35 Don't think I'll miss anything terribly important. Dec 13 02:10:26 Thanks for trying Dec 13 02:11:01 so, loading a .dtbo for a cape involves more than dropping .dtbo file in /lib/firmware/ it would seem... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 13 03:00:00 2013