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Dec 19 03:47:31 <rongweigh> hey all.  i am trying to determine the distro/kernel combo for beagleboard xm that will reliably play back standard def video files. i haven't had much luck so far navigating the jumble of requirements to get dsp or neon acceleration working.
Dec 19 03:48:13 <rongweigh> is the angstrom demo image going to be my best bet?
Dec 19 03:50:43 <prpplague> rongweigh: well of course there is no such thing as "standard def video"
Dec 19 03:51:05 <prpplague> rongweigh: second, the dm3730 was never designed as a video playback device
Dec 19 03:51:39 <prpplague> rongweigh: so you may want to re-evaluate what your are trying to accomplish and make sure you have the "right tool for the right job"
Dec 19 03:54:57 <rongweigh> prpplague: i was was using "standard fef" to generically refer to non-HD as i can use low res and any codec container if i need to.
Dec 19 03:56:06 <rongweigh> prpplague:  i was under the impression that it had video/dsp in mind since it has a camera peripheral available for it
Dec 19 03:57:35 <rongweigh> i do agree that it might be the right tool for the job, however i have seen/read evidence that it can indeed playback video at a passable frame rate.  so, i am hoping to find what configuration allows that occur most reliably...
Dec 19 04:00:25 <prpplague> rongweigh: yes, you can generally playback 720p video with reasonable performance as long as all of the pieces are there
Dec 19 04:00:34 <prpplague> rongweigh: but dm3730 is somewhat long in the tooth
Dec 19 04:48:30 <rongweigh> prpplague:  ...and the pieces are what i am trying to piece together.  afaik, i need a kernel that supports the old omapfb xorg drivers + a functional dsp bridge install, possibly a pre-emptive kernel patch, and to use gstreamer...i think.  but the 2d acceleration driver and dsp interface are only compatible with certain kernels
Dec 19 05:09:34 <rongweigh> would anyone be able to advise on what distro/driver/kernel configuration can reliably play 720p (or lower) video, preferably with sound, at a passable framerate on the beagleboard xm?
Dec 19 05:11:01 <rongweigh> i suppose i should add to that:  as well as which media framework....gstreamer or ffmpeg/mplayer
Dec 19 05:49:54 <mrpackethead> rongweigh: Debian.
Dec 19 05:50:01 <mrpackethead> the answer is always debian
Dec 19 05:50:06 <mrpackethead> and never angstrom
Dec 19 05:50:13 <mrpackethead> ha ah.
Dec 19 05:50:17 <mrpackethead> sorry no ida
Dec 19 05:50:22 <mrpackethead> i was just being a troll
Dec 19 05:53:00 <vagrantc> trolls don't apologize that fast.
Dec 19 05:53:30 <vagrantc> well, real trolls don't apologize.
Dec 19 06:00:35 <rongweigh> well, the circuitco angstrom demo image does indeed play avi with audio pretty well. so i guess the joke is on me.
Dec 19 06:01:12 <rongweigh> in order to maximize the usefulness, you have to stick with a 2.6 kernel.
Dec 19 06:03:15 <rongweigh> i had unfortunately thought that usefulness of the hardware would have increased over time as developers became more enabled to exploit the hardware, but i didn't take into account th dependence on closed source software.  and now, i realize that i have another hamstrung piece of hardware because of my oversight.
Dec 19 06:05:20 <rongweigh> anyway.  videos (and audio!) play on the angstrom demo image from circuitco, and as long as i can get outbound commands from serial to work, i guess i am set until pvr and ti share the joy
Dec 19 06:05:43 <av500> pvr does not help to decode video
Dec 19 06:05:47 <av500> what HW are you on?
Dec 19 06:05:57 <av500> ah XM
Dec 19 06:06:17 <av500> there is nothing needed to get "neon acceleration" working
Dec 19 06:06:23 <av500> NEON is part of the CPU
Dec 19 06:06:26 <av500> DSP is tricky
Dec 19 06:07:24 <rongweigh> right; pvr is 3d only.  neon is a cpu extension, but needs a functional xorg driver to access, and dsp is a physical chip with an api
Dec 19 06:07:42 <av500> neon does not need xorg drivers
Dec 19 06:08:14 <rongweigh> sorry, that is true.
Dec 19 06:08:43 <rongweigh> to have xorg use 2d acceleration via the neon extensions, xorg drivers are neeeded
Dec 19 06:09:06 <av500> well yes, maybe
Dec 19 06:09:16 <av500> but you dont need all that to decode SD video
Dec 19 06:09:28 <av500> you can do all the resizing in hardware
Dec 19 06:09:37 <av500> decode on ARM or DSP
Dec 19 06:09:41 <av500> let the HW display it
Dec 19 06:09:46 <av500> no need for xorg or PVR
Dec 19 06:09:59 <rongweigh> using omapfb?
Dec 19 06:10:07 <av500> v4l2
Dec 19 06:10:17 <av500> that worked nicely a few years back
Dec 19 06:10:26 <av500> 2.6.32ish
Dec 19 06:10:56 <rongweigh> yeah.  i actually just imaged to that and it does indeed work
Dec 19 06:11:54 <av500> good
Dec 19 06:11:58 <rongweigh> i received the device sans sdcard, so i went with rcn's ubuntu install and ended up in a slog of kernel/driver/userspace madness
Dec 19 06:12:33 <av500> the omap3 is really bandwith limited
Dec 19 06:12:48 <av500> so doing anything more than pure decode and display by HW does not really help
Dec 19 06:12:59 <av500> like shuffling the pixels into X
Dec 19 06:13:05 <av500> or with the sgx
Dec 19 06:13:05 <rongweigh> that's all i need for this project, really
Dec 19 06:13:08 <av500> so
Dec 19 06:13:12 <av500> go with it
Dec 19 06:13:15 <rongweigh> hell, i can even drop frames
Dec 19 06:13:37 <av500> every time you do that a hollywood director dies
Dec 19 06:13:44 <rongweigh> GOOD
Dec 19 06:13:55 <rongweigh> --framedrop 100
Dec 19 06:15:11 <rongweigh> kidding.  anyway.  this image does help...once i can figure out how to get new software into angstrom.  hopefully this capability will be available in newer kernels in the future
Dec 19 06:15:32 <rongweigh> (this capability meaning functioning a/v)
Dec 19 06:17:43 <av500> no idea
Dec 19 06:17:49 <av500> I left omap3 about 3ys ago :)
Dec 19 06:17:52 <rongweigh> thanks for your collective help.  i think i might need to get a utilite to save what hair i have left.
Dec 19 06:18:36 <rongweigh> it is an old platform at this point, but kind of just making itself into the world of technological artisans, i guess
Dec 19 06:21:16 <rongweigh> "how do we get rid of all these old arm soc boards?  i know...let's bring one to a maker faire"
Dec 19 08:58:16 <Rotti> hi
Dec 19 09:12:27 <av500> lo
Dec 19 09:47:24 <cityLights> ~seen koen
Dec 19 09:47:46 <cityLights> how do I set a gpio pullup ?
Dec 19 09:48:08 <cityLights> in /sys/class/gpio/gpio20/ I see no way to do it
Dec 19 09:48:41 <cityLights> I saw a reference to /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux but this pat is missing from my BBB
Dec 19 09:48:49 <cityLights> I am running 3.8.11
Dec 19 09:56:02 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: thats because the omap specific pinmux system was replaced by the generic one some time between 3.2 and 3.8
Dec 19 09:56:48 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: basically a dt overlay should be able to do the trick.
Dec 19 09:57:51 <cityLights> LetoThe2nd: ya I read something regarding this
Dec 19 09:58:05 <cityLights> how event I have no utility named dtc
Dec 19 09:58:44 <cityLights> I understand I need to write a file with all my requirments , n my case only a single gpio pullup , then compile it
Dec 19 09:58:54 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: kind of, yes.
Dec 19 09:59:15 <cityLights> where can I get the dtc executable from?
Dec 19 09:59:24 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: https://github.com/nomel/beaglebone should have some inspiration, probably even already a fitting dtbo.
Dec 19 09:59:40 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: usually the dtc should already be on your BBB
Dec 19 10:00:09 <cityLights> well, its not in the path of the Asngstrom OS
Dec 19 10:00:37 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: here, see https://github.com/nomel/beaglebone/tree/master/gpio-header
Dec 19 10:00:50 <cityLights> thanks
Dec 19 10:01:33 <cityLights> my second question is regarding the Angstrom OS: how to get wpa_suppliment to run on boot?
Dec 19 10:01:47 <LetoThe2nd> just looked at my BBB... the angstrom image is not exactly up-to-date, but it certainly has dtc.
Dec 19 10:01:59 <cityLights> the wireless usb is recognized, but no connection is established
Dec 19 10:02:17 <LetoThe2nd> (at /usr/bin/dtc, for the protocol)
Dec 19 10:03:53 <cityLights> thanks, you are very helpfull. let me see
Dec 19 10:09:42 <JoE6> Rumors have it a new revision of the BBB is in the works, anybody in the know?
Dec 19 10:10:29 <cityLights> root@beaglebone:~# ls /usr/bin/dtc
Dec 19 10:10:29 <cityLights> ls: cannot access /usr/bin/dtc: No such file or directory
Dec 19 10:10:40 <cityLights> root@beaglebone:~# uname -a
Dec 19 10:10:41 <cityLights> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13 #1 SMP Tue Dec 17 14:03:27 CET 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
Dec 19 10:11:16 <LetoThe2nd> are you sure that this is angstrom? ;)
Dec 19 10:11:34 <cityLights> LetoThe2nd: yes, how can I prove it?
Dec 19 10:11:40 <cityLights> root@beaglebone:~# opkg search gpio-header
Dec 19 10:11:40 <cityLights> root@beaglebone:~#
Dec 19 10:11:42 <LetoThe2nd> lsb_release -a
Dec 19 10:11:52 <cityLights> root@beaglebone:~# lsb_release -a
Dec 19 10:11:52 <cityLights> Distributor ID: Angstrom
Dec 19 10:11:52 <cityLights> Description:    Angstrom GNU/Linux v2013.12 (Core edition)
Dec 19 10:11:52 <cityLights> Release:        v2013.12
Dec 19 10:11:52 <cityLights> Codename:       Core edition
Dec 19 10:12:04 <LetoThe2nd> i see.
Dec 19 10:13:57 <LetoThe2nd> the "tue, dec 17 2013" just is irritating. where did you get the image from?
Dec 19 10:14:56 <cityLights> beaglebone website, then ran opkg update
Dec 19 10:15:27 <cityLights> sure wish I could have run gentoo on it, as I need the wireless to work
Dec 19 10:15:42 <cityLights> and angstrom has little info on how to get this to work
Dec 19 10:16:53 <LetoThe2nd> can you please give us link to what you downloaded?
Dec 19 10:17:12 <cityLights> sure
Dec 19 10:20:01 <cityLights> I try to go to http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Dec 19 10:20:09 <cityLights> I get: Error in application beagle
Dec 19 10:20:09 <cityLights> Maximum Thread count reached.
Dec 19 10:20:16 <cityLights> site is down now
Dec 19 10:21:01 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: well that image linked there has date "2013.06.20" - which does not really match the 2013-12-17 in your uname. or did i get something wrong?
Dec 19 10:21:26 <LetoThe2nd> and the flasher has 2013-09-04.
Dec 19 10:22:38 <cityLights> looking
Dec 19 10:23:18 <LetoThe2nd> so my initial guess would be that reflashing a proper image might help.
Dec 19 10:23:45 <cityLights> I see.
Dec 19 10:24:03 <cityLights> the image is on a microsd, far from here
Dec 19 10:24:22 <cityLights> ok, can you provide a link to the right image?
Dec 19 10:25:15 <LetoThe2nd> i don't know what the most up to date image ATM is, on  beagleboard.org it says: https://s3.amazonaws.com/angstrom/demo/beaglebone/BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.09.04.img.xz
Dec 19 10:27:08 <cityLights> BBB-eMMC-flasher-v2013.12-2013.12.07.img.xz
Dec 19 10:27:34 <cityLights> need I provide a link as well?
Dec 19 10:28:25 <LetoThe2nd> well i see that image *nowhere* mentioned.
Dec 19 10:28:49 <Andy1978> I have a BeagleBoard-xM and installed Debian via netinstall as described here: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian after that I tried to use my leopard camera LI-5M03CS with mt9p031.
Dec 19 10:28:57 <cityLights> ok, I am getting the image yu suggested
Dec 19 10:29:51 <Andy1978> I had a look at /proc/modules and saw, that the mt9p031 isn't built in the used kernel. After that I descided to build the Kernel on my own with mt9p031 as described here http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBoard
Dec 19 10:30:36 <Andy1978> The build was successful and I installed the resulting *.deb on my BeagleBoard but after reboot, uname still shows the "old" 3.7.10" kernel
Dec 19 10:30:40 <cityLights> LetoThe2nd: ok, I will get back after upgrading the software
Dec 19 10:31:01 <cityLights> who can help me with connecting to usb wireless
Dec 19 10:31:02 <cityLights> ?
Dec 19 10:31:14 <Andy1978> how do I enable the new installed kernel? I had a look in uEnv.txt but didn't figure out how to tell uboot to load the new kernel
Dec 19 10:32:35 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: can't help you with wifi particulary, but i think the older kernels still have some issues with usb. that might be a reason why someone provided you with a newer image - which is not bad per se, but the image seems to be lacking dtc. thats why i wonder from where it came.
Dec 19 10:33:47 <cityLights> ok, say , does koen come here?
Dec 19 10:33:53 <LetoThe2nd> Andy1978: just drop the new kernel in with the same filename.
Dec 19 10:34:03 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: he has been absent for a while here.
Dec 19 10:34:08 <Anil> Where to buy a BeagleBone Black in India?
Dec 19 10:34:22 <cityLights> ok, are you coming to FOSDEM?
Dec 19 10:34:26 <av500> yes
Dec 19 10:35:10 <LetoThe2nd> Anil: http://beagleboard.org/ - has a "select a distributor" dropdown. there are distributors from india in to choose. go figure.
Dec 19 10:35:35 <max4000> any python libarary to run 2x15 lcd with bbb ?
Dec 19 10:36:21 <JoE6> Rumors have it a new revision of the BBB is in the works, anybody in the know?
Dec 19 10:36:29 <cityLights> I was also seeking virtualenv for python
Dec 19 10:36:56 <cityLights> o, did anyone connect a current sensor to the ADC?
Dec 19 10:37:07 <cityLights> I need to scal it to 1.8V - I see
Dec 19 10:41:41 <Andy1978> LetoThe2nd: hm, do you think this is a "clean" way? Is this the only possibility ?
Dec 19 10:42:57 <JoE6> Do SRM have change bars after a revision change?
Dec 19 10:44:02 <Andy1978> LetoThe2nd: Ah, there is an /boot/uboot/tool/update_boot_files.sh ... this might do it...
Dec 19 11:39:01 <abhinav> hi
Dec 19 11:39:46 <abhinav> I would like to know the way to build beagleboardpkg on windows platform
Dec 19 11:39:54 <abhinav> for edk2 porting
Dec 19 11:40:37 <LetoThe2nd> abhinav: use a linux VM.
Dec 19 12:01:20 <cityLights> LetoThe2nd: after flashing the image you supplied, how can I fix the usb wireless connection issue?
Dec 19 12:05:24 <cityLights> How can I meet the beale bone crew in FOSDEM?
Dec 19 12:09:49 <LetoThe2nd> cityLights: AFAIK fixing USB need a newer kernel, but i'm not informed what exactly needs to be done.
Dec 19 12:11:04 <Tenkawa> what kind of usb problem?
Dec 19 12:12:17 <LetoThe2nd> IIRC hotplugging is/was defective on older kernels. if you don't need hotplugging, you might be fine with an older one, though.
Dec 19 12:13:57 <Tenkawa> hotplugging is very current sensitive it seems... some devices hotplug fine..some reboot the unit immediately
Dec 19 12:31:30 <cityLights> ok but I just boot , while the usb wifi is inserted
Dec 19 12:31:47 <cityLights> but wpa_supplient doesn't load correctly
Dec 19 12:32:07 <cityLights> when I issue it from the command line - it does work
Dec 19 12:32:24 <cityLights> seems like a simple config issue
Dec 19 12:35:45 <aurelien> Oh My GNU! The shop online finally decided to send me the BBB but I will not be here to get it ... It will stay alone in the letter box during 15 days rather than being under the tree for Chritmass :'(
Dec 19 13:21:28 <Andy1978> I have a LI-5M03CS camera module from leopard. cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) |grep -i mt9p shows "CONFIG_VIDEO_MT9P031=y" so the driver module is built in the kernel. I added camera=lbcm5m03 to /boot/uboot/uEnv.txt but I see no initialisation steps in dmesg after reboot. Any hints?
Dec 19 15:16:06 <Stshepp> I am looking for a local store for purchasing beagle boards. I have know idea what stores might carry them. I live in the Chicagoland area. Any ideas where to go?
Dec 19 15:16:20 <jkridner> Radio Shack and Microcenter
Dec 19 15:17:06 <Stshepp> Do all radio shacks carry them?
Dec 19 15:21:02 <av500> call them
Dec 19 16:36:39 <anujdeshpande> anyone seen koen ? i needed some help with libmtp on Angstrom
Dec 19 16:40:09 <ogra_> koen hasnt been in this channel for months
Dec 19 19:58:44 <keneth> Hi Everyone, I'm having a problem connecting to the BeagleBone via the Onboard Ethernet Port. Is this the same device as Eth0, the built-in Mini-USB ethernet? If not, how can I check the address of the Onboard Ethernet Port, (not the mini usb)
Dec 19 20:00:09 <thurgood> ifconfig -a ?
Dec 19 20:02:15 <keneth> I got it, thanks, different device and IP completely from the USB ethernet
Dec 19 22:37:12 <Rips> Hi, need HELP. At my Beaglebone Black is no Gate One SSH!! Cant connect via ssh (Putty)
Dec 19 22:37:34 <tbr> Rips: how are you powering it?
Dec 19 22:37:52 <Rips> over usb to the pc
Dec 19 22:38:10 <Rips> i updated the linux angstrom distribution already
Dec 19 22:38:22 <tbr> so you reflashed it?
Dec 19 22:38:41 <Rips> In the browser stands: Your Board is connected
Dec 19 22:39:28 <Rips> hmm I got a micro sd and installed the latest distribution
Dec 19 22:40:53 <Rips> at the start page under software is only "Update Image" and "Cloud9 IDE"
Dec 19 22:41:01 <tbr> maybe that has a problem with ssh not starting
Dec 19 22:41:24 <Rips> hm
Dec 19 22:41:51 <Rips> do I have to delete the old version manually when i get the latest image of angstrom?
Dec 19 22:42:09 <Rips> or can i just boot with micro sd
Dec 19 22:42:26 <tbr> that should work
Dec 19 22:42:49 <Rips> my other BBB is working fine ...
Dec 19 22:42:54 <keneth> Good afternoon, does anyone know why eth0 is giving me a wired network - disconnected error, when I try to connect to the onboard ethernet port on the beaglebone?
Dec 19 22:46:23 <Rips> Someone had the same Issue? NO Gate one SSH at Beaglebone Black Startpage. Only Cloud9!
Dec 19 23:17:29 <keneth> So I cannot ping the eth0 adapter on the beaglebone. I followed the static IP setup (http://derekmolloy.ie/set-ip-address-to-be-static-on-the-beaglebone-black/) and set the IP to 192.168.1.80. I can see the inet add 192.168.1.80 if I run ifconfig but I cannot ping it from my host PC
Dec 19 23:17:43 <keneth> connected via ethernet cable
Dec 19 23:33:04 <max400> where do i find uEnv?
Dec 19 23:33:12 <max400> i want to user  UARt1-5
Dec 19 23:33:22 <max400> but dont see them in /dev/tty*
Dec 19 23:38:19 <max400> any idea?
Dec 20 01:49:44 <pbar> Entirely new to IRC and beaglebone black, trying to get bluetooth working with a2dp similar to these guides: http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn-your-Raspberry-Pi-into-a-Portable-Bluetooth-A/?ALLSTEPS and http://kmonkey711.blogspot.com/2012/12/a2dp-audio-on-raspberry-pi.html but running into lots of trouble going between angstrom on the beaglebone black and wheezy on the rasppi
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