**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 02 02:59:59 2014 Jan 02 03:32:09 Hello friends Jan 02 03:32:12 mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system Jan 02 03:32:19 but kernel has cifs Jan 02 03:32:23 any idea? Jan 02 03:34:36 anyone please ? Jan 02 05:01:16 Is there a way to analyze uEnv.txt file in beaglebone's /boot Jan 02 05:01:45 Beagle_test: it should be mounted by default and readable Jan 02 05:09:39 I want to edit the file so that I can enable my UART. Is that the way for enabling UART Jan 02 05:20:32 Beagle_test: yes Jan 02 05:20:58 I think i have a faq someplace. let me see. Jan 02 05:32:00 Beagle_test: http://blog.pignology.net/2013/05/getting-uart2-devttyo1-working-on.html Jan 02 05:39:27 Dr{Who}: thanku let me try Jan 02 08:24:58 Hi, I have read alot on the forums and internet about booting issues. And i'm stuck atm. I installed Ubuntu on an uSD card which boots fine when i hold down the BOOT button located near the uSD card slot. I would like it to boot from the uSD card everytime, even when i don't press the BOOT button manually. Jan 02 08:25:39 The BBB boots from the uSD card if i first boot into Ubuntu on the uSD card and then issue a reboot. But if i issue a shutdown -h now it just doesn't boot. Jan 02 08:25:55 And three of the LEDs are lit constantly Jan 02 08:30:06 I have disabled the eMMC in uEnv.txt which I have verified by showing the slots and the eMMC dto is not loaded. Jan 02 08:30:34 But when i read on the internet and in the forums the boot process should first try to boot from the uSD card if there is one present, but mine doesn't Jan 02 12:54:57 [kernel] meenumurali opened pull request #83: Fix aspect ratio issue of 720p in MT9M114 camera cape (3.8...3.8) http://git.io/WjcV2g Jan 02 13:21:39 Does anyone have any ideas what i can try to get my BBB boot automagicly from uSD and not try to boot from eMMC Jan 02 13:22:10 It boots of the uSD card if boot button is pressed during power. Jan 02 13:22:32 I'd like to boot from uSD without pressing the boot button everytime Jan 02 13:27:34 There is some guidance @ http://www.armhf.com/ Jan 02 13:27:45 magi: step #1 learn how the boot process works Jan 02 13:37:08 magi, read the SRM, it's all in there Jan 02 13:44:08 KotH, interestingly enough, the answer is even in the topic. Jan 02 13:44:10 :( Jan 02 13:45:42 mdp: i dont read the topic Jan 02 13:46:03 you're part of the problem ;) Jan 02 13:48:53 pwillard i can't find the information on that site, would mind giving me a link? Jan 02 13:49:11 all you have to do is read page 33 of the SRM Jan 02 13:49:36 it's the canonical documentation Jan 02 13:51:27 mdp i will read it Jan 02 13:51:41 KotH http://wiki.beyondlogic.org/index.php/BeagleBoneBlack_Boot_Process Jan 02 13:51:45 good, it answers your question in detail Jan 02 13:52:01 Should one always press boot button to boot from uSD? Jan 02 13:52:06 and, as I mentioned, the link in the topic also answers your question in a visual manner Jan 02 13:52:14 magi, the answer is on page 33 Jan 02 13:52:22 All right all right Jan 02 13:53:12 I put a motherboard in a machine the other day, it was far far easier to turn to page 11 in the manual that came with it to verify the pwr/reset switch layout Jan 02 13:53:17 the concept is similar here Jan 02 13:54:54 ahh ok Jan 02 13:55:48 So all i need to do is to have the uSD card inserted, power the board, press and hold the boot button, remove power while still holding boot button down, and then add power again Jan 02 13:56:22 no, you need to erase the eMMC Jan 02 13:56:34 the pins are only sampled at power on Jan 02 13:59:32 Ok Jan 02 14:00:40 Thats why a "reboot" booted to the uSD, and when the power was cut and reapplied it booted into eMMC Jan 02 14:00:49 Allright, so all i need to do i format eMMC Jan 02 14:01:28 I had eMMC disabled, but i guess that it is only disabled one the kernel has been booted. Jan 02 14:01:33 once* Jan 02 14:02:09 So i must enable eMMC again and then format it. Jan 02 14:02:14 correct? Jan 02 14:02:37 magi: please FUCKING READ THE DOCUMENTATION instead of wasting peoples time Jan 02 14:04:33 KotH i don't see how i waste anyones time, this is an IRC channel, where people chat. I have read alot of different sites/forum and even documentation. I just didn't get everything in it, that's why i asked. Jan 02 14:05:13 well, then ask what you dont understand instead of expecting exact steps Jan 02 14:05:48 Ohh ok, i thought this channel was open for discussions, not just exact questions. Jan 02 14:05:57 KotH So i must enable eMMC again and then format it? Jan 02 14:06:11 Is that enough exact for you to answer? Jan 02 14:06:48 ^^' Jan 02 14:06:57 did you even try to understand the boot process? Jan 02 14:07:07 I did Jan 02 14:07:14 and yes, this channel is for open discussion Jan 02 14:07:25 "As mentioned earlier, there are four boot modes:" Jan 02 14:07:29 That part i get Jan 02 14:07:32 but as with OSS everywhere, reading and thinking yourself is expected Jan 02 14:08:24 So, if i have disabled the eMMC (the blob is not loaded from uENV.txt) is it possible to format it, or do I need to enable it again to be able to erase it? Jan 02 14:09:08 you make the boot loader skip the emmc, what the OS does is independent of this Jan 02 14:09:47 There are some eMMC "flasher" images that will replace what comes as default on eMMC. But I'm with KotH... you need to try to understand what is written about what happens at boot time. Jan 02 14:09:57 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0 Jan 02 14:10:14 will clear the eMMC and you'll boot by default from uSD Jan 02 14:11:27 Well.. my system only shows mmcblk0 (and p1/p2) which is the uSD card. Jan 02 14:11:58 And as i understood the SRM the boot modes don't stick after power has been removed Jan 02 14:12:41 it has a sequence... Jan 02 14:12:58 if something "exists" earlier in the sequence, it "wins" Jan 02 14:13:12 Yes, and you can alter that sequence, but doed that alternation stick even when power has been removed and reapplied Jan 02 14:13:59 the only answer there is "it depends" Jan 02 14:14:10 on what is my exact question then? Jan 02 14:16:09 This is my slots when the system has booted from the uSD http://pastie.org/8593620 Jan 02 14:16:22 as you can see the eMMC has been disabled. Jan 02 14:16:40 magi, boot from eMMC and do that Jan 02 14:17:01 And do what? Jan 02 14:17:08 erase it Jan 02 14:17:30 as documented on page 33, this is how you boot from uSD by default without depressing the boot button Jan 02 14:17:30 I guess i have to wait and see until i get home if the boot changes stick after power has been removed Jan 02 14:17:33 that's your goal Jan 02 14:17:37 let's get there Jan 02 14:17:46 heh Jan 02 14:18:56 I assume you are trying to not run Angstrom... Jan 02 14:20:46 I'm trying to boot (ubuntu) from my uSD card without pressing the boot button every time i remove and reappli power to the board. Jan 02 14:21:09 And i don't need the eMMC as it uses GPIO pins that i need to use. Jan 02 14:21:25 So i disabled the eMMC to be able to use those pins as GPIO Jan 02 14:22:01 which works fine once ubuntu is booted. Jan 02 14:22:52 you need to erase the boot blocks of the eMMC, it's your only hope Jan 02 14:22:59 agree Jan 02 14:23:03 or seek Ben Kenobi Jan 02 14:23:10 you really don't want to run ubuntu from eMMC Jan 02 14:29:49 Allright, there's no more partitions on the eMMC. Hope that works now when i get home :D Jan 02 14:50:29 mdp: Wouldn't he needed to have done dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk1 to clear the eMMC? Jan 02 14:51:14 what for? Jan 02 14:51:17 just delete MLO Jan 02 14:51:23 no need to stress the emmc Jan 02 14:51:30 agree on that point. Jan 02 14:52:30 depends on what he was booted from Jan 02 14:52:48 and av500's is less effort, yes Jan 02 14:52:54 It worked by formating eMMC Jan 02 14:52:55 much Jan 02 14:53:05 Now my BBB boots of the uSD card every time Jan 02 14:53:17 sure Jan 02 14:53:18 magi, exactly as documented in the SRM! Jan 02 14:53:37 mdp where does that show i SRM? Jan 02 14:53:44 page 33 Jan 02 14:53:57 where on page 33 do you read that? Jan 02 14:55:30 "Without holding the switch, the board will boot try to boot from the eMMC. If it is empty, then it will try booting from the microSD slot, followed by the serial port, and then the USB port." Jan 02 14:55:33 "Without holding the switch, the board will boot try to boot from the eMMC. If it is empty, then it will try booting from the microSD slot, followed by the serial port, and then the USB port." Jan 02 14:55:36 yea Jan 02 14:55:37 got it Jan 02 14:56:01 I was looking for a way to always boot to the uSD wiothout formating eMMC Jan 02 14:56:04 that's why I kept asking you to read the SRM, specificly page 33 which is 5.3.5 boot modes and describes all the possibilities in detail Jan 02 14:56:43 as av500 added, you could just move/remove MLO as well Jan 02 14:56:46 Why does one have to format eMMC? Could'nt the bootmodes just first try the uSD if there's an uSD card detected? Jan 02 14:57:10 magi, the boot order has been hardcoded by the BBB designers Jan 02 14:57:16 they don't like jumpers Jan 02 14:57:20 magi: My BBB boot from my uSD without formating the eMMC Jan 02 14:57:23 just momentary switches Jan 02 14:57:41 magi, and listen to what av500 said again..you don't need to completely format it Jan 02 14:57:50 Yea I got that Jan 02 14:58:22 because they have experience with newbies breaking things from previous designs Jan 02 14:58:33 Ok, so that's the reason. Jan 02 14:59:34 I would have thought that if there's and uSD card detected, first try and see if there is a bootable flag on a partition there, if there is, boot from it, if not try eMMC Jan 02 14:59:41 That's more logical to me anyway Jan 02 14:59:59 that way you could alwys remove uSD card and it will boot fine on eMMC Jan 02 15:00:20 it's logical for you. but it does not mean it works for everyone else the same way Jan 02 15:00:30 magi, that's not how it works Jan 02 15:00:41 KotH yea, thats why i added "to me" Jan 02 15:00:46 mdp it's not? Jan 02 15:02:03 magi: it may come as a surprise to you, but people are extremely stupid Jan 02 15:02:30 magi: even the most intuitive and logical thing will confuse the heck out of joe average Jan 02 15:02:38 KotH in what regard do you mention that? Jan 02 15:03:01 hmm? Jan 02 15:03:10 that's a general comment Jan 02 15:03:17 nvm got it Jan 02 15:03:48 But i think you reference that to my opinion on a more logical boot alternative? Jan 02 15:04:05 eMMC provides an instant noob interface and starting with eMMC means faster boot. Jan 02 15:04:32 Yea, and that works just fine without an uSD card which isn't shipped with the bbb Jan 02 15:04:56 If you check the external SD... it takes more time. Jan 02 15:05:37 I don't say that there should be no eMMC, but why not try the external REMOVABLE disk first, and then go for eMMC. Jan 02 15:06:03 Time can't be the reason, since the BBB boots extremely fast Jan 02 15:06:22 appeal to gerald to fix it Jan 02 15:06:28 I'm just asking what the reasons is Jan 02 15:06:43 ask gerald, he designed it..he'll be happy to tell you Jan 02 15:06:44 I'm not critizising Jan 02 15:07:13 Is he on irc? Jan 02 15:07:46 no Jan 02 15:07:50 ok Jan 02 15:07:50 he needs to do real work Jan 02 15:07:55 post to the list Jan 02 15:08:19 av500 one can do real work an be on irc aswell :D Jan 02 15:08:29 no Jan 02 15:08:32 no Jan 02 15:08:44 no Jan 02 15:09:06 So nnone of you do any real work? Jan 02 15:09:14 no Jan 02 15:09:33 no Jan 02 15:09:40 That's sad Jan 02 15:09:51 *You're* sad. Jan 02 15:09:53 ;-P Jan 02 15:10:14 That's ok with me Jan 02 15:39:52 any know if bonescript has working interupts? Jan 02 15:40:15 I know PyBBIO does. Jan 02 15:41:14 agmlego: does it have working pinmode select and analog out? Jan 02 15:41:31 Maybe? Check the docs. Jan 02 15:41:37 pinmuxing does not work yet Jan 02 15:41:38 cool thanks Jan 02 15:41:43 Those are not features of the module I have used. Jan 02 15:41:47 so you have to work with the pinmux as-is Jan 02 15:41:51 i see. Jan 02 15:41:58 in/out should work Jan 02 15:42:32 : \ seems like beagle bones current status is... in progress Jan 02 15:42:54 its because pinmuxing changed with device tree Jan 02 15:43:08 wondering if I should build the controller in arduino and use the bbb as the interface Jan 02 15:43:10 one cannot simple fudge it in sysfs any more Jan 02 15:43:22 some call that progress Jan 02 15:43:56 ya, undoubtedly. but it's slow to come back around to full feature set after the breaking changes Jan 02 15:44:45 goge: There is a simple thing you can do to make things move faster--help out. Jan 02 15:44:54 also, blame Linus Jan 02 15:46:39 i've tried my hand at it, the fudged analog out functionallity i got working for bonescript didn't matter as a week later he had a better implementation in github Jan 02 15:47:47 not skilled enough is what I'm getting at : ) Jan 02 15:50:21 Then have patience. Jan 02 15:52:53 I wonder if the beaglebone black's headers are fast enough to interface to a PCI bus Jan 02 15:54:52 Sure. PCI is clocked, so it will run at whatever speed you can drive it. Jan 02 15:55:02 But it will be super slow. Jan 02 15:56:16 who cares about super slow if you can bit bang it? Jan 02 15:57:23 can you clock PCI-e like that as well? It would be far less complex to sit on a single lane Jan 02 15:58:14 Alynna: No, PCIe is not clocked. Jan 02 15:58:50 Fortunately for you, there are a bunch of devboards that run Linux and can do PCIe. Jan 02 15:59:02 Look up basically anything that has Zynq in it. Jan 02 15:59:11 probably expensive as heck.. Jan 02 15:59:18 Not overly. Jan 02 15:59:27 Decent ones can be had for less than US$300. Jan 02 16:32:01 what is the easiest way to install Chromium v31 on beaglebone black? opkg installs v29.. Jan 02 16:35:06 [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/U3to2Q Jan 02 16:35:06 kernel/3.8 9c7cb5b Robert Nelson: 3.8: add argus ups cape and 720p fix for MT9M114-camera... Jan 02 16:45:04 what is it about the beagle that requires the filesystem to be vfat? Jan 02 16:45:46 the ROM code Jan 02 16:45:55 it can only boot from a FAT filesystem Jan 02 16:45:59 or from a raw SD Jan 02 16:47:08 I want record a wav file in octave on a beagleboard xM, how I do that? Jan 02 16:50:19 1) install octave Jan 02 16:55:03 So I've got a Beaglebone Black, running Angstrom after an update with the package manager Jan 02 16:55:51 I've connected it to my Arch Linux laptop (w/WiCD), and it's picking it up as /dev/ttyACM0 Jan 02 16:56:21 where do I go from here to connect to it over USB? Jan 02 16:56:50 I have install ovtave Jan 02 16:57:37 2) x=record(time,samplingrate); Jan 02 17:00:11 that command give me an error Jan 02 17:00:49 opening '/dev/dsp': No such file or directory Jan 02 17:01:57 oh Jan 02 17:02:51 it likes OSS Jan 02 17:02:55 but BBB has alsa Jan 02 17:07:57 but I need various codes that I make for octave Jan 02 17:08:16 so, I need record a sound with octave Jan 02 17:08:38 with ALSA I do it, but I need octave Jan 02 17:13:13 hmm, see if you have aoss Jan 02 17:13:26 thats a wrapper that gives OSS api to apps Jan 02 17:13:32 aoss Jan 02 17:19:16 hi, is there any bluez wizzard to help me to setup a file server via bluetooth on the BBB angstrom distro? Jan 02 17:27:30 hi all, i'm currently using a debian7 image on my BBB, on boot it has a little tux on the top left corner, any ideas how i can change this ? Jan 02 17:29:51 bitnumus: http://sumanprasanna.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/how-to-change-your-boot-logo-in-linux-kernel/ Jan 02 17:32:33 prpplague, not sure thats specific to debian Jan 02 17:32:35 how does bbb make my pc add an ip interface to the usb port with a specific ip, just by booting up the bbb? Jan 02 17:32:44 but essentially i have to recompile the kernel just to change this ? Jan 02 17:33:13 yes.. why you don't like the linux logo? Jan 02 17:34:26 not sure why that question, i want to change it, it doesn't matter why surely ? :) Jan 02 17:34:46 s34n_, combination of a usb-gadget driver, init script, and small dhcp server.. Jan 02 17:35:08 Can't we get 3.11 running on the Bone so people stop complaining about tux? Jan 02 17:35:35 3.11 was a bust to big of a delta, just unrevert that patch on 3.12/3.13.. Jan 02 17:36:07 bitnumus, just rebuild it's part of the kernel.. maybe i should just brand my kernel. .;) Jan 02 17:36:32 Linus will cry. Jan 02 17:36:42 someone know how to extract mfcc in the beagleboard Jan 02 17:37:06 pwillard, no worries, sounds like work and i'm lazy. ;) Jan 02 17:37:22 rcn-ee: so my host already has a usb-gadget driver with an init-script that makes it behave that way? Jan 02 17:38:25 s34n_, yeap... you can see the juicy details here: https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard/blob/master/meta-beagleboard-extras/recipes-support/usb-gadget/gadget-init/g-ether-load.sh#L64 Jan 02 17:40:10 bitnumus: linux is linux, doesn't matter if it is on black or something else Jan 02 17:40:53 prpplague, yes i understand that, just your guide wouldn't work for me thats all, i guess i'll google then Jan 02 17:41:06 google Jan 02 17:41:06 interesting Jan 02 17:41:18 bitnumus, why doesn't it work? Jan 02 17:41:25 sarcasm Jan 02 17:41:25 interesting Jan 02 17:41:34 thats new to IRC? Jan 02 17:44:52 bitnumus: google gave me this: http://www.armadeus.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_Boot_Logo Jan 02 17:45:00 bitnumus: still a recompile... Jan 02 17:48:22 s34n_, thanks Jan 02 18:06:03 hehe Jan 02 18:07:33 Helllo, I am trying to get some help on beagleboard bb-mb-000 rev c4 Jan 02 18:08:54 Is anybody there to help please? Jan 02 18:12:26 what's wrong with it? Jan 02 18:22:17 Hi, What do I need to do for my windows computer to recognize beagleboard bb-mb-000 rev c4? In the attempt, I installed linux (ubuntu), but still nothing worked. I simply connected it to my laptop using a mini usb to usb cable. And int turn connected the board to an hdmi enabled tv screen. Could this be because I do not have that sd card that usually comes with the beagle board or any sd card should work? Jan 02 18:23:43 well with ubuntu the "usb-otg" connecter is setup for usb-host, so you'd have to either use the orignial angstrom image or recompile the kernel.. Jan 02 18:32:55 I easily got Ubuntu to support USB network connection... only ran a script. Jan 02 18:35:47 bluetooth drives me nuts. I thought it's easy to export a directory on the BBB via OBEX, so I can exchange files via BT. Jan 02 18:36:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXyewd98e9Q any idea what distance sensor is used there? Jan 02 18:36:27 but spending the afternoon I still have no clue how to setup the board Jan 02 18:36:30 Maybe unrelated to your question... but... https://github.com/jadonk/beaglebone-getting-started/tree/master/scripts Jan 02 18:37:19 once that was done... I even see the fat partition from USB Jan 02 18:44:05 thews: the one they all use Jan 02 18:44:36 04 something Jan 02 18:45:03 SR04 Jan 02 18:45:20 http://dx.com/p/hc-sr04-ultrasonic-sensor-distance-measuring-module-133696 Jan 02 18:52:07 av500: ahh, from what I saw that one wasn't the most easy to configure to the BBB Jan 02 18:53:50 it needs accurate timing Jan 02 18:54:15 I guess there are some with a PIC onboard that do that for you Jan 02 19:06:47 some different models that cost quite a bit more are pretty easy to work with Jan 02 19:06:48 I have an SR04 laying around, I might hook it up to my level converter and check out tying into the PRU sometime Jan 02 19:06:48 probably not today though, lots of work to do Jan 02 19:20:38 is there any way to make the beaglebone black to beep? Jan 02 19:20:52 yes, connect a speaker Jan 02 19:20:57 or a buzzer Jan 02 19:21:01 or a beeper Jan 02 19:21:50 alternatively, you can modify the DC/DC converters until the coils and the capacitors start beeping Jan 02 19:21:50 ok, nothing is already embeded? Jan 02 19:22:08 Nope. Jan 02 19:22:21 ok, thank you :) Jan 02 19:22:22 Has anyone here used the apc220 wireless modules with the beaglebone black? Jan 02 19:22:22 sorry, but there is no magic software that can add hardware capabilities Jan 02 19:22:35 yes KotH that's why I'm asking Jan 02 19:22:59 eintopf: you make me hungry ^^' Jan 02 19:23:15 eat something Jan 02 19:23:25 ... but not me, please Jan 02 19:23:37 i was just about to '^^ Jan 02 19:25:35 alan_o: hey :-) Jan 02 20:23:24 hi eintopf Jan 02 20:30:45 KotH: you can add an imagination to the kernel. Jan 02 20:30:53 and then just imagine that it will work. Jan 02 20:31:41 mrpackethead: you should stop reading manga, it's getting to your head Jan 02 20:31:43 ;) Jan 02 21:45:39 Anyone here know anything about using non-Tomee controllers with BeagleSNES Jan 02 21:45:43 ? Jan 02 22:02:28 Hey, I'm trying to flash my Beaglebone black eMMC with a angstrom image Jan 02 22:04:45 I do it exactly like they say on the support forum but it will not work, I have to let go of the buttons after 3 minutes and then 3 LEDS of death. I'm running Macbook Pro R, with a 16gig mSD card. Jan 02 22:13:30 Texs_Ranger: is this supposed to work on an apple? Jan 02 22:28:00 Stupid question Jan 02 22:28:23 I'm flashing the eMMC on my beaglebone black Jan 02 22:28:50 The USR/BOOT button is the one away from the ethernet jack, right? Jan 02 22:32:58 Is there any way to tell if it's actually copying, or do I just have to wait it out? Jan 02 22:36:29 if it's blinking a bunch it's probably copying Jan 02 22:36:40 you could also hook up an FTDI cable Jan 03 00:01:37 i have some questions about the python library from adafruit Jan 03 00:01:42 does it apply the overlays automatically ? Jan 03 00:24:10 I am trying to write a kernel driver that drives some custom hardware on a parallel bus on BBB P9 . I am having great difficulty getting P9.17 (GPIO#5) and P9.18 (GPIO#4) to do anything from kernel space. If i export them from userspace and write to the sysfs files the it works as expected. It also works well if i export them using devicetree. any pointers? Jan 03 02:01:06 hello **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 03 02:59:58 2014