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Jan 05 04:23:42 <dogrocket> hello... anyone know how to get the beagle to mount a usb-cdrom?
Jan 05 04:24:01 <dogrocket> err play a audio cd rather
Jan 05 04:40:04 <dogrocket> anyone have usb-cdrom on beagle?
Jan 05 04:49:04 <Rontopia> hi all
Jan 05 04:49:18 <cjcoug_> Hello. I'm trying to get my BBB running with the Angstrom Linux OS installed. I am missing several commands in the /bin directory including "sudo" Does anyone know how to fix this?
Jan 05 04:49:43 <Rontopia> quick question..
Jan 05 04:50:52 <Rontopia> cjcug.. I think you may need to re-install. did you do anything to your stock install?
Jan 05 04:58:08 <dogrocket> didnt think angstrom used the command sudo...
Jan 05 04:59:10 <mrpackethead> angstrum?
Jan 05 04:59:13 <mrpackethead> whats angstrum?
Jan 05 04:59:25 <dogrocket> sudo is a ubuntu linux command
Jan 05 04:59:34 <mrpackethead> is angstrum something you do with a guitar
Jan 05 04:59:40 <mrpackethead> lol.
Jan 05 05:00:23 <mrpackethead> sudo is in many *nix distribution
Jan 05 05:00:27 <cjcoug_> thanks for the info
Jan 05 05:00:48 <cjcoug_> Do you have ubunto installed on your BBB mrpackethead?
Jan 05 05:00:59 <mrpackethead> no. debian
Jan 05 05:01:22 <cjcoug_> were you able to load it from the eMMC?
Jan 05 05:01:26 <mrpackethead> yes.
Jan 05 05:01:35 <mrpackethead> can load from eMMC or from SDcard
Jan 05 05:01:54 <mrpackethead> I've never used anyting but debian
Jan 05 05:02:01 <mrpackethead> its what i knew
Jan 05 05:02:05 <cjcoug_> Cool. Maybe I will try that. I've been trying to follow this tutorial on youtube and the sudo command is used a lot
Jan 05 05:02:39 <mrpackethead> have you got ubutnu on yours?
Jan 05 05:02:56 <dogrocket> Im on arch linux right now... typed in sudo  error command not found
Jan 05 05:02:58 <cjcoug_> No. It's preloaded with the Angstrom linux version
Jan 05 05:03:07 <mrpackethead> yes, it is.
Jan 05 05:03:13 <cjcoug_> I've only really used RedHat
Jan 05 05:03:30 <mrpackethead> you can always swap to root
Jan 05 05:03:35 <mrpackethead> and not use sudo
Jan 05 05:03:40 <mrpackethead> just remember then that you are root
Jan 05 05:04:01 <dogrocket> yep cjcoug allready root... dont need sudo
Jan 05 05:04:03 <cjcoug_> Yeah, that's an option but I like to avoid using root
Jan 05 05:04:19 <mrpackethead> according to the rumors, the BBB will be ditchign angstrom soon
Jan 05 05:04:22 <mrpackethead> and going to debian anyway.
Jan 05 05:04:47 <dogrocket> arch linux works pretty good on BBB in my opinion
Jan 05 05:05:50 <dogrocket> dont have x11 but could install it i guess
Jan 05 05:06:29 <mrpackethead> I dont' use any graphics.
Jan 05 05:06:34 <mrpackethead> never plug the HDMI in
Jan 05 05:06:36 <cjcoug_> Looks like there's more reasons that one to switch from Angstrom.
Jan 05 05:07:33 <mrpackethead> yes. in deed.
Jan 05 05:07:50 <cjcoug_> Thanks mrpackethead and dogrocket
Jan 05 05:07:59 <mrpackethead> though i've also been Plying with lots of other dev boards recently
Jan 05 05:08:07 <mrpackethead> and theres *lots* of options for lots of things.
Jan 05 05:08:37 <cjcoug_> the hardest part of messing with new boards is setting up the environment :-/
Jan 05 05:08:54 <dogrocket> np... check out arch, they use a baked ti devtree kernel... seems pretty stable
Jan 05 05:16:22 <dogrocket> ls
Jan 05 05:16:25 <dogrocket> oops
Jan 05 05:20:06 <jarrettv> yo i've heard rumors of software revamp on bbb... any details?
Jan 05 05:25:35 <dogrocket> yeah saw that myself, seems the actual developer of board who works for circuitco says debian is in the works
Jan 05 05:25:48 <dogrocket> looking for link
Jan 05 05:26:05 <veremit> lots of arm systems are using debian already
Jan 05 05:26:16 <veremit> ubuntu is actively developed too
Jan 05 05:29:07 <dogrocket> Yes, we are moving to Debian sometime in the future. Work is underway to make this happen. Gerald On Mon, Dec 30, 2013
Jan 05 05:29:44 <dogrocket> Circuitco was paying for the Angstrom support but the maintainer left Circuitco and went to another company. TI supports mainline Linux, currently 3.12 and higher. We are moving in that direction as fast as we can from the 3.3 Kernel. Angstrom and Linux are distributions of the Linux OS. Gerald
Jan 05 05:31:17 <veremit> there's a guy from Digikey who's doin a lot of ARM-based development called Robert Nelson - http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/Home
Jan 05 05:31:22 <jarrettv> cool... are they doing this on github?
Jan 05 05:31:47 <dogrocket> not sure.. heres link to the whole thread... its pretty long winded.. lol
Jan 05 05:31:59 <veremit> all his work is based on debian/ubuntu distros
Jan 05 05:32:09 <jarrettv> wow, cool link
Jan 05 05:32:13 <dogrocket> http://www.marshut.com/iknxvq/angstrom-abandoned-for-bbb-rumor-a-rant.html#ikspny
Jan 05 05:32:30 <dogrocket> robert nelson chimes in on thread too...
Jan 05 05:32:32 <veremit> I always thought angstrom development was getting ... 'old'...
Jan 05 05:32:42 <veremit> he's everywhere thats important .. so IGuess he knows his shit
Jan 05 05:32:54 <veremit> I've mailed him once .. quite helpful guy
Jan 05 05:33:33 <dogrocket> yeah.. i think circuitco likes his work enuf to change distros... lol
Jan 05 05:33:57 <veremit> since the Pi adopted debian from day1
Jan 05 05:34:01 <dogrocket> he works for digikey i guess
Jan 05 05:34:06 <veremit> apparently
Jan 05 05:40:01 <dogrocket> some talk there about getting sgx video drivers working... wish they would
Jan 05 05:40:31 <dogrocket> i think ti dropped the ball on the sgx driver thing
Jan 05 05:43:06 <jarrettv> i started a .net library for bbb based on the work of raspberrysharp
Jan 05 05:44:05 <jarrettv> mono ran easily on the bbb but there were no decent libraries
Jan 05 05:44:42 <jarrettv> friend gave me a pi and i found multiple libraries... so i figured i'd fill the gap on bbb
Jan 05 05:44:52 <veremit> nice
Jan 05 05:45:02 <jarrettv> what do you guys think of the dart language?
Jan 05 05:45:21 <jarrettv> i think they should replace bonescript with dart and a dart library
Jan 05 05:47:58 <dogrocket> never heard of it... good work though
Jan 05 05:52:20 <pwillard> still not loving angstrom...
Jan 05 05:53:18 <veremit> its not particularly user friendly
Jan 05 05:53:33 <jarrettv> bbb needs a config-tool that lets you easily manage gpio modes / device trees
Jan 05 05:54:25 <veremit> every arm device needs a sensible config tool .. but it just hasn't been created yet
Jan 05 05:54:47 <veremit> I've seen a bonescript tool for the beagle though
Jan 05 05:54:55 <pwillard> http://noflojs.org/
Jan 05 05:55:06 <veremit> or the JSon one ..
Jan 05 05:55:09 <veremit> :)
Jan 05 05:55:10 <pwillard> that's the right direction with nodejs
Jan 05 05:57:46 <dogrocket> wow... they say dart smokes nodejs in performance tests, 2x as fast in some tests
Jan 05 05:58:49 <veremit> its just not supported anywhere yet :)
Jan 05 05:59:11 <hiredman> shipping with a shared library for poking gpio pins directly instead of via /sys would be nice
Jan 05 06:00:17 <veremit> Pi does it with python ..
Jan 05 06:00:32 <veremit> possibly by same method
Jan 05 06:01:06 <hiredman> PyBBIO is pretty neat, I think they are still getting up to speed on the kernel changes
Jan 05 06:01:48 <hiredman> I learned the trick if mmaping /dev/mem to fiddle gpio pins from PyBBIO
Jan 05 06:01:52 <jarrettv> dart editor with a nice dart library would be a nice out of the box experience
Jan 05 06:02:19 <veremit> make it so :)
Jan 05 06:02:24 <veremit> and publish it, ofc !
Jan 05 06:03:33 <jarrettv> veremit: maybe i will write it into my internet of things job description
Jan 05 06:05:19 <veremit> that should be visible on redmine/etc too :D
Jan 05 06:05:50 <jarrettv> redmine?
Jan 05 06:07:15 <veremit> project mgmt software web-based
Jan 05 06:10:06 <jarrettv> pwillard: do you use node.js?
Jan 05 06:10:34 <pwillard> just starting to...
Jan 05 06:11:29 <Rickta59> is that a usable app veremit ? I'm in the market for some open source projmgmt
Jan 05 06:12:25 <veremit> www.redmine.org - runs on apache for sure .. not tried it on anything lightweight .. needs php
Jan 05 06:13:25 <veremit> although .. if you want something ready-to-go .. I think the likes of sourceforge/etc are catching up with some of the same functionality
Jan 05 06:13:42 <Rickta59> it isn't for me .. was for the g/f
Jan 05 06:13:49 <Rickta59> i set her up with projectlibre
Jan 05 06:13:56 <Rickta59> but she struggles with it
Jan 05 06:14:19 <Rickta59> it has some nits
Jan 05 06:15:05 <veremit> mm I heard of that but never used it
Jan 05 06:15:16 <veremit> there's some really cool stuff online .. I was lookin at recently
Jan 05 06:15:18 <Rickta59> feels like m$project
Jan 05 06:15:27 <veremit> yeah .. could be too heavyweight
Jan 05 06:15:41 <Rickta59> it is java and feels like java
Jan 05 06:15:55 <jarrettv> writing a new bbb image... since i killed my emmc with opkg upgrade :(
Jan 05 06:16:12 <Rickta59> thanks i'll check it out
Jan 05 06:16:13 <veremit> lol - I just bricked my 3g router with the wrong version of squashfs
Jan 05 06:16:25 <veremit> so thats Monday's fix with the serial debug lead :D
Jan 05 06:17:28 <veremit> what does she need to do with it Rickta59 ?
Jan 05 06:17:50 <Rickta59> she is doing a big event
Jan 05 06:17:56 <Rickta59> lots of moving parts and people
Jan 05 06:18:09 <Rickta59> not computer related at all
Jan 05 06:18:28 <veremit> hmm so sorta m$project but probably not best suited
Jan 05 06:18:41 <jarrettv> wow, noflo looks interesting
Jan 05 06:18:49 <veremit> whats projectlibre like?
Jan 05 06:18:59 <Rickta59> if you know project management it would be great
Jan 05 06:19:15 <Rickta59> but i'm having to teach her project management and the software at the same time
Jan 05 06:19:31 <Rickta59> so all the concepts are lost on her ..
Jan 05 06:19:38 <Rickta59> whats a critical path?
Jan 05 06:19:41 <veremit> I know the very basic principles .. but not how to use any of the software.
Jan 05 06:20:03 <veremit> I only ask because my company is looking for a business/time/project management system .. and so far haven't found anything usable lol
Jan 05 06:20:16 <Rickta59> i have a copy of project 1997 : ) .. but no machine that will run it
Jan 05 06:20:27 <veremit> critical path is the minimum necessary tasks to accomplish your goal
Jan 05 06:20:41 <Rickta59> i was kidding .. i meant she had no idea what that was or why it was important
Jan 05 06:20:42 <veremit> and there's an associated timescale
Jan 05 06:20:44 <veremit> :p
Jan 05 06:22:07 <veremit> most of the software is gonna rely on you having a basic grip on project management sadly
Jan 05 06:22:31 <Rickta59> yeah i got her project management for dummies
Jan 05 06:24:00 <veremit> probably a worthwhile investment, especially if she does any more big events :)
Jan 05 06:24:10 <Rickta59> they are a non-profit
Jan 05 06:24:12 <Rickta59> so no money
Jan 05 06:24:27 <veremit> ok
Jan 05 06:30:19 <veremit> Rickta59, might be worth looking at something like comindwork or zoho projects maybe?
Jan 05 06:30:43 <Rickta59> we will see if she sticks with it ..
Jan 05 06:30:53 <Rickta59> today i said do you want me to help you with that ..
Jan 05 06:30:59 <Rickta59> and she said .. maybe tomorrow
Jan 05 06:30:59 <veremit> just throwing ideas out there
Jan 05 06:31:06 <veremit> heh
Jan 05 06:31:24 <Rickta59> i let her struggle on her own till she was ready to quit then I stepped up and said i could help
Jan 05 06:31:56 <Rickta59> she took her plan we created last week and realized how far she was behind and was able to convince the others to get their acts together
Jan 05 06:33:36 <Rickta59> thanks those look interesting
Jan 05 06:33:47 <Rickta59> i had looked at rally as i had used that about 4 years ago
Jan 05 06:34:05 <Rickta59> but that seemed like it would be too much for her
Jan 05 06:34:18 <Rickta59> and sometimes they don't have internet there
Jan 05 07:18:11 <Veedubin> sup guys. Just got my first BBB and I have ubuntu running on it. I love this little thing.
Jan 05 07:18:42 <Veedubin> I had a beagle bone on extended loan from a prof so I decided to get my own lol
Jan 05 07:23:53 <p0ff> Could anyone tell me what a good way to start contributing to BeagleBoard specifically on the node.js and Javascript platforms?
Jan 05 07:24:05 <p0ff> would be**
Jan 05 08:05:26 <pwillard> p0ff  find a way to make Angstrom obsolete
Jan 05 08:06:11 <myself> didn't I hear something about a move to debian?
Jan 05 08:06:35 <pwillard> that would be awesome
Jan 05 11:12:08 <das_> hello
Jan 05 11:12:50 <das_> i am new to ths world
Jan 05 11:13:11 <das_>  please help me to make it work
Jan 05 11:15:38 <das_> how can i ssh from windows8
Jan 05 11:16:12 <das_> putty is not working
Jan 05 14:18:19 <tuyentq> hi all
Jan 05 14:18:30 <tuyentq> please help me config wifi
Jan 05 14:50:36 <pepsicola> hi
Jan 05 14:50:59 <pepsicola> unable to connect bbb to ubuntu
Jan 05 14:51:27 <pepsicola> it works under windows but not under ubuntu
Jan 05 14:51:30 <pepsicola> help
Jan 05 14:57:55 <KotH> pepsicola: 1) keep calm
Jan 05 14:58:11 <KotH> pepsicola: 2) tell us what you see in your log files
Jan 05 14:58:56 <KotH> pepsicola: 3) cola turka is better ;)
Jan 05 15:00:52 <pepsicola> nothing
Jan 05 15:01:10 <pepsicola> i connected bbb wth usb
Jan 05 15:01:23 <pepsicola> 1. step --> ok
Jan 05 15:01:42 <pepsicola> 2. step --> i run .sh file & nothing happend
Jan 05 15:02:59 <pepsicola> i ran mkudevrule.sh but still not able to connect to bbb
Jan 05 15:07:55 <pepsicola> ???
Jan 05 15:10:31 <pepsicola> unable to connect bbb to ubuntu -----> step2 driver install
Jan 05 15:14:48 <KotH> maybe you should look into /var/log/syslog
Jan 05 15:15:00 <KotH> when you connect the bbb it tells you what's going on
Jan 05 15:15:09 <KotH> and if in doubt, use a serial cable
Jan 05 15:17:34 <pepsicola>  unable to enumerate USB device on port 6
Jan 05 15:17:54 <pepsicola> new high-speed USB device number 75 using ehci-pci
Jan 05 15:22:20 <pepsicola> Jan  5 15:50:31 nawipiardi NetworkManager[1067]: <info> Starting dnsmasq... Jan  5 15:50:31 nawipiardi NetworkManager[1067]: <info> (eth1): device state change: ip-config -> activated (reason 'none') [70 100 0] Jan  5 15:50:31 nawipiardi dnsmasq[4113]: started, version 2.59 cachesize 150 Jan  5 15:50:31 nawipiardi dnsmasq[4113]: compile time options: IPv6 GNU-getopt DBus i18n DHCP TFTP conntrack IDN Jan  5 15:50:31 nawipiardi dnsma
Jan 05 15:22:57 <ram_> no one help u every one is busy
Jan 05 15:23:15 <ram_> not nice community pepso
Jan 05 15:23:17 <jarrettv> morning
Jan 05 15:26:24 <jarrettv> try ethernet
Jan 05 15:30:42 <pepsicola> ok i try ethernet
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Jan 05 17:27:24 <aurelien> Happy GNU Year BeagleBone!
Jan 05 17:28:54 <KotH> happy RMS to you too
Jan 05 19:23:14 <elyezer> on beaglebone black can I use all GPIO by default ou I need to create a DeviceTreee Overlay to configure them?
Jan 05 20:43:21 <l31n> hallo guys, does someone have experience with beaglebone black DCAN ?
Jan 05 21:22:46 <jarrettv> hello
Jan 05 21:23:17 <_av500_> world
Jan 05 23:12:30 <Mike63UK> is this room for just the beagleboard or the beaglebone too?
Jan 05 23:14:38 <veremit> think its pretty generic
Jan 05 23:14:49 <veremit> I don't see separate rooms .. yet ..
Jan 05 23:15:30 <Mike63UK> there is a #beaglebone  but i think theyre all playing much as i do
Jan 05 23:16:26 <veremit> so there is
Jan 05 23:18:06 <Mike63UK> i wonder sometimes if the list of names is just aliases for one person but he or she is asleep
Jan 05 23:18:48 <veremit> no .. this is IRC .. where half the population are asleep :D
Jan 05 23:19:13 <myself> because it's sleep time in their timezone, because IRC is worldwide :)
Jan 05 23:19:25 <veremit> well duh .. I been on IRC for many years .. :p
Jan 05 23:19:30 <Mike63UK> aaahhhh i forget were are all on different timezones
Jan 05 23:19:35 <Mike63UK> an me too
Jan 05 23:19:55 <Mike63UK> maybe there should be an alarmclock function
Jan 05 23:20:00 <veremit> so, stastically .. my statement does stand :p
Jan 05 23:20:18 <veremit> that doesn't look right .. statistically*
Jan 05 23:20:35 <Mike63UK> but then we would have to find out whether women or men are more likely to sleep when on here
Jan 05 23:21:06 <veremit> anyway .. at the risk of veering off-topic .. did you have a query about the beagle(s) ?! :)
Jan 05 23:21:12 <Mike63UK> or whether it is an age thing like in my case
Jan 05 23:21:29 <veremit> or veering on-topic ..
Jan 05 23:22:16 <Mike63UK> yea sort of. Ive ported puredata onto two of them. it has a net connect bit allowing one pd client to talk to another, i wondered if anyone had tried it
Jan 05 23:22:21 <Mike63UK> yea sort of. Ive ported puredata onto two of them. it has a net connect bit allowing one pd client to talk to another, i wondered if anyone had tried it
Jan 05 23:23:07 <Mike63UK> im using netjack with my pc as the server at the moment
Jan 05 23:23:21 <veremit> over my head .. sorry :)
Jan 05 23:23:27 <Mike63UK> i have an rpi too and want to bring that in too
Jan 05 23:23:46 <Mike63UK> im only 5'4 and most things are over my head
Jan 05 23:24:42 <veremit> looks cool Mike
Jan 05 23:25:39 <Mike63UK> id like to get them working cooperatively
Jan 05 23:26:44 <veremit> if you've ported to the beagle .. can't be difficult to port to pi
Jan 05 23:27:50 <Mike63UK> no but getting them to communicate while they are running stuff ....
Jan 05 23:28:25 <Mike63UK> so lets say bbb1 wants to change key, i can signal the change and then they all play in the new key
Jan 05 23:29:20 <Mike63UK> its the idea of getting these things to work together that is my main interest
Jan 05 23:29:38 <Mike63UK> pure data is a good way of exploring that
Jan 05 23:30:47 <Mike63UK> using netjack this could be all over the world but if Im right they could work together
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