**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 10 02:59:59 2014 Jan 10 03:28:08 ds2 you just figuring that out ? Jan 10 03:29:36 ubuntu is turning into the Windows of the linux world .. *shudder* Jan 10 03:29:52 I mean .. its ok to have ambition .. but .. get your direction right lol Jan 10 03:30:03 ubuntu has been crap nearly since it first came out Jan 10 03:30:12 *cough* windows .. ;P Jan 10 03:30:55 except windows isnt crap Jan 10 03:31:30 well .. some are .. some less so Jan 10 03:31:35 windows 3 was a rocky road Jan 10 03:31:43 windows 8 .. is love-or-hate Jan 10 03:31:58 XP I'm happy with .. 7 I'd use Jan 10 03:31:59 im not on widnows 8 so really can not comment Jan 10 03:32:07 7 is pretty dahmed good Jan 10 03:32:38 but its all the "I'll just do this for you, because I think this is what you want to do ..." when its not .. really drive me nuts. Jan 10 03:32:49 but Ubuntu, as a user, and if you just need it to work, e.g. standard user stuff then its probably ok, its when you really want to *do something* where ubuntu falls on its face Jan 10 03:32:55 *I'm* the user ... *I'm* the one in control .. Jan 10 03:33:07 or I wish I Was .. lol :) Jan 10 03:33:15 exactly ... Jan 10 03:33:31 it half defeats what linux is about Jan 10 03:33:38 but .. then its a choice which distro you use Jan 10 03:34:05 .. or don't :) Jan 10 03:37:52 ill probably die using mostly nothign but debian Jan 10 03:39:08 too many other things to do, other than learning / playing with a different distro / set of tools every so often. id rather just stick to something i now that wrks for me Jan 10 03:41:57 Apparently I'm just too stupid to be able to figure out git. Per rcn, I cloned his linux-dev.git, then 'git checkout -b 3.8.13-bone32'. As I understand git (which isn't much), that created a branch, not switched to an existing branch somewhere and pulled it. because after I run the build_kernel.sh, I'm stuck with 3.13.0-rc7, not the 3.8.13-bone32 build I want. What the heck am I missing here? Jan 10 03:42:27 *shudder* I've yet to master git Jan 10 03:42:35 I just run the scripts, go make a cofdee/tea Jan 10 03:42:41 coffee* Jan 10 03:43:52 Well, I'm all for that, except I want to build a specific version, not the latest. But I don't understand how to pull the 3.8.13-bone32 revision. The patches don't update the Makefile, but clearly since 'uname -a' shows 3.8.13-bone32, at some point, someone's Makefile had those set. Jan 10 03:44:06 rcn's script creates a branch 'tmp' Jan 10 03:44:25 from what I've seen .. based on whichever git branch you pull Jan 10 03:44:46 because when you clone .. you create a local 'branch' or copy of the repo Jan 10 03:45:10 <= nearly mastered Hg, use SVN day-to-day. Jan 10 03:45:41 I guess I'm not understanding how to specify the branch to pull. git clone git://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev.git is where I was told to start. But, again, that seems to be 3.13.0-rc7 sources. Jan 10 03:45:55 well idk it works for me . . . but i dont know what you're askign either Jan 10 03:46:01 im not master of git either Jan 10 03:46:04 nor do i want to be Jan 10 03:46:05 the second stage should tell you which version to branch .. let me look at his page again .. Jan 10 03:46:10 I'm a SVN guy, too. Jan 10 03:46:19 svn is pretty limited imho. Jan 10 03:46:27 SVN was / is easy lol Jan 10 03:46:31 precisely Jan 10 03:46:37 but not very flexible lol Jan 10 03:46:38 It does what I need. git is unnecessarily complicated. Jan 10 03:46:49 git is a beast .. I'll say that. But its what everone uses Jan 10 03:46:54 What's the URL for the page your mentioning? I haven't seen that one, I don't think. Jan 10 03:46:55 well .. most people use. Jan 10 03:47:03 eewiki.net/ ... and stuff Jan 10 03:47:03 Yeah, well, "everyone" uses Windows. So that doesn't mean a lot. Jan 10 03:47:09 lol exactly Jan 10 03:47:11 git is a way for Lilnus to make bucks on consultation ;) Jan 10 03:47:26 Didn't he ditch git in favor something else? Jan 10 03:47:32 k4jcw_: http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html Jan 10 03:47:35 not that im aware of Jan 10 03:47:40 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/ Jan 10 03:47:54 so .. we're talking BBB , yes? Jan 10 03:48:04 is that a good read Ricjk ? Jan 10 03:48:08 Rick* Jan 10 03:48:11 i use it all the time Jan 10 03:48:19 rosetta stone for svn to git Jan 10 03:48:20 *clicks* Jan 10 03:48:55 ah hell yeah .. thanks Jan 10 03:49:10 ok k4jcw_ .. where u at? Jan 10 03:49:24 In terms of...? Jan 10 03:49:37 Oh, sorry. Jan 10 03:49:39 k4jcw_: at http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-LinuxKernel .. you'll see how rcn suggests building the kernel Jan 10 03:49:55 what I was talkingn about .. is the second stage .. the "git checkout" bit Jan 10 03:50:09 the "-b tmp" makes a branch called 'tmp' locally Jan 10 03:50:30 it just means if you change anything .. you definitely can't push it back to rcn's git by accident :) Jan 10 03:50:31 I just ran git checkout origin/am33x-v3.8 -b tmp, and started the build_kernel.sh script. Jan 10 03:50:55 But I bet that's going to pull bone35 Jan 10 03:51:01 what he says in his comments (buried) is if you change sources .. you can run scripts in "tools" folder to rebuild rather than doing the whole damn lot Jan 10 03:51:11 yes .. 3.8 is currently bone35.1 Jan 10 03:51:29 (built that earlier this week) Jan 10 03:51:29 Which is not what I want. Jan 10 03:51:32 right ok Jan 10 03:52:15 you need to dive into the web of git .. see if there's a subsection for bone32 Jan 10 03:52:27 I'm guessing probably not .. which means you have to go to another source. Jan 10 03:52:47 I think the original BBB is stuck somehwere in the 30s. Jan 10 03:53:29 This 'origin/am33x-v3.8', where does that exist, come from, whatever? Is there a way to list the 'origin' tree (or whatever it's called)? Jan 10 03:53:57 web github .. https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev Jan 10 03:54:23 rcn-ee .. anyone in there?! :p Jan 10 03:54:52 whats wrong with bone35 ? Jan 10 03:55:02 what's wrong veremit Jan 10 03:55:24 trying to find whether there's a bone32 tree anywhere? Jan 10 03:55:36 checkout the tag.. Jan 10 03:55:47 k4jcw_, what dont you like abotu bone35 ? im curious it may effect me as well Jan 10 03:56:11 aha .. so to clone that tag .. whats the git cmd for k4jcw_ rcn-ee?! :) Jan 10 03:56:19 git checkout 3.8.13-bone32 -b tmp Jan 10 03:56:19 for us git n00bs ;) Jan 10 03:56:27 cheers! Jan 10 03:56:49 i think the last actual source i got from rcn here was bone28, that aught to make you cringe Robert lol Jan 10 03:56:51 m_billybob, nothing. I've just got bone32 running, I want to update a single module to support a particular USB device. Jan 10 03:57:08 ah Jan 10 03:57:14 fair enough I guess lol Jan 10 03:57:41 I havent updated since bne28 i need to. been up in the air of goign ot new rc or stay in 3.8 Jan 10 03:57:42 that branch is essentially in maintance mode.. it's usually one 'fix' patch between relesases.. Jan 10 03:58:38 It seems to me that the only differnce between 3.8.x and 3.12/3.13 is standard I/O stuff, and perhaps sgx too Jan 10 03:59:00 and a big lack of capes .. apparently .. Jan 10 03:59:01 It's sad when the easiest way to deal with git problems is to blow away the entire directory and just start over. Jan 10 03:59:04 better usb... it was better ethernet, but we just back ported that patch.. Jan 10 03:59:08 Good thing bandwidth is cheap. Jan 10 03:59:15 faster USB or jus tbetter as in hotplug ? Jan 10 03:59:21 k4jcw_ .. yeah rob's scripts are a bit ... heavy lol Jan 10 03:59:28 just more reliable.. Jan 10 03:59:29 faster .. NOT better hotplug Jan 10 03:59:37 hotplug is borked Jan 10 03:59:41 lol Jan 10 03:59:51 whats wrong with ethernet in 3.8.13.x ? its dahmed fast and *seemed* reliable to me Jan 10 03:59:58 less hackish... more 'mainline'.. some of the things we did early in 3.8 for usb just make you cringe.. Jan 10 04:00:06 ah Jan 10 04:00:32 were you all able to keep 4bit SD in the source without hassles ? Jan 10 04:01:03 I keep hearing you need to pay a liscencing fee for 4bit SD but . . . yeah wouldnt know from reading myself Jan 10 04:01:17 Rickta59 .. looks like Git adopted that tutorial/crashcourse .. https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitSvnCrashCourse Jan 10 04:01:23 network, there was a long standing bug in 3.8 where dhcp failed in debian's netinstall.. https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/commit/acd8269587ebefe665ff9a2bc3aa487a0c4aa7be Jan 10 04:01:29 OK, this looks promising :) the patches/defconfig matches /proc/config.gz :) Jan 10 04:01:50 k4jcw_ there ya go .. always helps to know who to prod .. ;) Jan 10 04:02:01 could be, I never found that one Jan 10 04:02:12 Robert, so this was just a setup type issue ? Jan 10 04:02:17 yeah link at top of yours is broken .. had to google. Jan 10 04:02:34 netinstall just means initial setup to me. am i wrong ? Jan 10 04:02:49 I need to create a crashcourse like that which starts at svn -> hg -> git .. lol Jan 10 04:03:02 I see where everything went wrong. When Rob said 'git checkout 3.8.13-bone32 -b' to me yesterday, I think he forgot to add 'tmp'. So I thought he just had a parameter backwards, and the -b should go BEFORE the 3.8.13-bone32. So no branch was actually being pulled. Jan 10 04:03:05 you netinstall to an arm?! Jan 10 04:03:06 never figured out your netinstall script, and to be honest not sure id need it Jan 10 04:03:17 i think google found it for me when i type 'how do i do an svn update in git' Jan 10 04:03:36 hehe Rickta59 .. good to know anyway Jan 10 04:03:45 google is the Oracle. Jan 10 04:03:47 Rick, googl-fu ;) Jan 10 04:03:55 Yeap, the netinstall is very reliable... run the script, tweaks an initrd.gz based off debian's debian-installer... then runs the full install.. ;) Jan 10 04:03:57 the google force is stong with YOU Jan 10 04:04:16 strong too but yeah Jan 10 04:04:18 So now I just wait a day or so while git pulls 689MB of source, and then builds the kernel on the BBB. Jan 10 04:04:20 rcn-ee: where is that?! Jan 10 04:04:29 exactly the same as debian's mini.iso's... Jan 10 04:04:35 k4jcw_... do it on a PC damnit :p Jan 10 04:04:43 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/netinstall Jan 10 04:04:45 rcn-ee: really?! for how mny platforms? Jan 10 04:05:07 veremit, i went a little crazy... it's totally generic, just add new platforms under hwmod Jan 10 04:05:17 Meh. I'm running OSX, I'd need to create a Debian VM under Parallels and spin it up, and install the tools... I have a perfectly good BBB that can do it. Jan 10 04:05:17 Thing is i think id rather get a solid image built locally, then work on doing my own "thing" for mass deployment Jan 10 04:05:21 rcn-ee .. you're mad .. genius .. but mad :P~ Jan 10 04:05:34 k4jcw_ .. didn't we talk about linaro?! Jan 10 04:05:46 ok ok .. I'll shup now lol Jan 10 04:05:59 We did. But we (I mean, you) never indicated an OSX package was to be found. Jan 10 04:06:15 oh sorry .. I'll pull up the *puke* twitter link again ... Jan 10 04:06:25 Seems some peopel have a problem with linaro, not sure why. but im still learning about GCC toolchains myself Jan 10 04:06:47 i used linaro becasue thats what robert uses to compile the kernel with following his instructions Jan 10 04:06:48 oh fyi .. had a lovely problem with 4.8 linaro toolchain .. made me a build that had a memory leak .. Jan 10 04:07:04 took a while to go and crash .. but crash it indeed did. Jan 10 04:07:09 I wish GCC would get string merging built in. That sure would help me on small footprint platforms. Like STM32L151's. Jan 10 04:07:19 i just use linaro, cause i got tired of building my own.. plus they do almost all the arm development now days... Jan 10 04:07:29 so i know just about enough to setup a gcc based toolchain with code::blocks for a cheap and quick IDE/toolchain Jan 10 04:07:48 * veremit will get crossdev goin on his gentoo :D Jan 10 04:07:52 IDE... You must be under 30. Jan 10 04:07:56 k4jcw_ .. here we are .. https://twitter.com/trismer/status/244865735862669313 Jan 10 04:08:09 isn't nano an ide? ;) Jan 10 04:08:14 it's got color now.. Jan 10 04:08:16 no . its an editor :P Jan 10 04:08:27 and only certain distros enable the syntax higlighting :p Jan 10 04:08:36 nano ? Jan 10 04:08:38 lol Jan 10 04:08:39 I think mos tppl graduated from vi XD Jan 10 04:08:42 or pico Jan 10 04:08:45 it's fun when the color works over gtkterm.. Jan 10 04:08:49 quick and dirty text editor imho Jan 10 04:08:59 <--- vim forever! Jan 10 04:09:01 m_billybob: the best kind ;) Jan 10 04:09:06 exactly Jan 10 04:09:15 didnt mean bad by quick and dirty Jan 10 04:09:21 i hate vi Jan 10 04:09:24 always have Jan 10 04:09:28 Downloading the twitter linked gz now. We'll see how that goes. Jan 10 04:09:32 vi is a bit .. odd. Jan 10 04:09:45 g'luck .. let me know if its any good whatsoever lol Jan 10 04:09:52 q!: or whatever thats about all i can remember in it lol Jan 10 04:10:03 was totally glad when visudo moved to nano Jan 10 04:10:03 Know what I like about vi? The basics are the same, everywhere. linux, solaris, tops-11... Jan 10 04:10:18 I've been running vi since... before there were PCs Jan 10 04:10:29 it is The original editor lol Jan 10 04:10:38 edlin ;) Jan 10 04:10:42 dos edit Jan 10 04:10:42 Then there are those emacs heathens. Jan 10 04:10:45 k4jcw_... givin ya age away there :p Jan 10 04:10:51 lolol emacs .. oh dear .. Jan 10 04:11:12 emacs is people who have escaped from the Arkham Insane Asylum. Jan 10 04:11:29 but but you can email with emacs *runs* Jan 10 04:11:49 emacs is an operating system that happens to (occasionally) allow editing. Jan 10 04:13:12 OK, time to take the dogs out. veremit, thanks for your help. Greatly appreciated, along with the Twit link. rcn-ee, thanks for your help. Hopefully, I'll have a compiled kernel in the morning. m_billybob, you have a good evening. Jan 10 04:13:33 good luck .. welcome as always Jan 10 04:14:29 you too Jan 10 04:14:55 i havent been serious on my bbb in a few months now Jan 10 04:14:58 i need to fix that Jan 10 04:15:08 got sucked into some new game . . Jan 10 04:15:49 which game?! Jan 10 04:15:59 can you play it on an arm system?!!? :P Jan 10 04:16:06 if so .. you're excused Jan 10 04:16:30 lol no, and its windows only Jan 10 04:16:40 dragons prophet Jan 10 04:16:57 its a free MMO Jan 10 04:17:02 rpg? (no not the grenade) Jan 10 04:17:10 mm thought I mighta heard of it Jan 10 04:17:11 well and you can pay Jan 10 04:17:19 for various things to buff your character Jan 10 04:17:26 * veremit rarely plays a teeny bit of Anarchy Online .. fr00b also. Jan 10 04:17:28 its kind of like wow but not Jan 10 04:17:41 heavey emphasis on dragons Jan 10 04:17:47 right Jan 10 04:20:08 just another time sink though ti sidetrack would be developers though Jan 10 04:20:43 I spent 6 months solid workign with the BBB understanding various aspects of embedded linux etc so i needed a break Jan 10 04:20:45 don't talk to me about sidetrack lol Jan 10 04:20:55 lol 6mo solid .. thats hardcore Jan 10 04:21:15 I spend 6mo half-half enjoying CA a few years back :D Jan 10 04:21:20 then I got a job :( Jan 10 04:21:26 back in England. Jan 10 04:21:36 lol Jan 10 04:25:23 on the plus side .. I get to work on embedded arm .. and I have a free Pi, wandboard dual, and shortly Beagle to play with :D Jan 10 04:27:01 ..even if I have cussed many times .. I'm learning a lot .. did I mention I unbricked my 3G router I broke last weekend :D lol Jan 10 04:29:46 well i had lots to learn and still mroe to learn Jan 10 04:30:10 new to linux dev and embedded linux but not new to writting software ( high level ) and not new to linux Jan 10 04:30:37 have some hands on with embedded devices previously too but not a lot Jan 10 04:30:47 stuff without an OS Jan 10 04:31:12 yeah .. done my fair share with PICs Atmels and more recently Cortex ARMs Jan 10 04:32:49 ive never done any PIC dev, but have wanted to for a long time Jan 10 04:32:59 not too keen on most stuff atmel Jan 10 04:33:13 Arduinos are good Jan 10 04:33:16 try to avoid arduino like the plauge Jan 10 04:33:24 PICs are quite simple .. but quirky Jan 10 04:34:18 i view arduino in embedded the same way i view ubuntu in linux Jan 10 04:34:43 whats so bad about arduino? apart from the processing interface .. blah ditch that. Jan 10 04:35:13 I just use Kate .. best editor I've used Ever .. and build/program ONLY in processing. Jan 10 04:47:14 i had a bad experience with a previous micro device, and arduino fits the bill in several ways as that device Jan 10 04:47:36 rabbit semi, whcih is a custom z80 based device with ethernet or wifi capabilities Jan 10 04:47:43 proprietary compiler etc Jan 10 04:47:49 eww Jan 10 04:48:02 Dynamic C which yeah totally was a major hassle to deal with Jan 10 04:48:10 wand >>> that Jan 10 04:48:12 this was also 6 years ago when we started usig that Jan 10 04:48:23 6+ Jan 10 04:48:27 micros have come a long way Jan 10 04:48:38 PICs are totally different to how they started out Jan 10 04:48:43 well the hardware was good the proprietary compiler and libraries sucked Jan 10 04:48:51 yeah.. thats always the let-down Jan 10 04:48:58 becasue you had to go through them to get anythign done Jan 10 04:49:15 open tools .. always :) Jan 10 04:49:15 plus many of atmles MCUs strike me as . .wanting Jan 10 04:49:27 8+ cycle memory reads etc isnt pretty terrible imho Jan 10 04:49:34 their range is quite modest.. always has been Jan 10 04:49:42 is pretty terrible* Jan 10 04:49:55 what platform you lookin at? Jan 10 04:50:06 well the msp430 has some of their MCU trumped in many ways Jan 10 04:50:20 msp430 is quite mature Jan 10 04:50:28 yeap Jan 10 04:50:37 whcih is a huge plus in my book Jan 10 04:50:40 bet its toolchain is proprietary :p Jan 10 04:50:45 nope Jan 10 04:50:49 mspgcc ;) Jan 10 04:50:58 waht MS?! lol jk Jan 10 04:51:05 msp . . . Jan 10 04:51:28 there's so many out there .. been using gcc with a Arm Cortex-M3 with ethernet Jan 10 04:51:30 there was even an arduino like IDE written for it, and one of the devs behind it . .well hes in this chanel now Jan 10 04:51:45 cortex M0/M4 in the series Jan 10 04:52:00 which cbrand ? Jan 10 04:52:04 brand* Jan 10 04:52:42 ugh .. the one we "chose" was a Luminary Micro .. taken over by TI Jan 10 04:52:55 tI is probably fine .. but the Luminary .. Never Ever. Jan 10 04:53:10 its been superceded I believe .. but everyone makes them Jan 10 04:53:19 we were looking at a ST one .. STM32 for example Jan 10 04:54:28 for a brief while I wanted a 'netduino' .. but the 'net on it is crap Jan 10 04:54:37 beagle >> that. Jan 10 04:55:08 same as net is crap on the Pi lol Jan 10 04:56:43 netduino yeah me too but its sorely lacking Jan 10 04:56:50 BBB is a dahmed solid platform Jan 10 04:57:04 first platform ive ben happy with ever really Jan 10 04:57:09 *nods* very few shortcomings actually Jan 10 04:57:14 it could be better . . but its perfect for the price Jan 10 04:57:17 Hi.. Can anyone tell on whether beaglebone (white) will support an 8GB microSD card.. Jan 10 04:57:35 m_billybob... bang for buck .. undoubtably Jan 10 04:58:09 Beagle13: I see no reason why not .. some manufacturers are better than others though it seems. Jan 10 04:59:20 i have a 16 GB sd card in my black but . . .thats nto a white Jan 10 05:00:32 the processor is mostly the same I thought Jan 10 05:01:33 ok.thnaku Jan 10 05:03:12 they're different Jan 10 05:03:22 BBW has an older MCU on it Jan 10 05:03:33 well duh .. thought it was same generation Jan 10 05:03:50 architecture/etc Jan 10 05:04:03 obviously speeds and stuff gonna be different Jan 10 05:04:06 buit thats what im thinking about, not sure if the BBW has an HDSC slot on it or not Jan 10 05:04:15 conotroller* Jan 10 05:04:30 well .. I've just searched and seen posts about 8gb cards lol Jan 10 05:05:20 good :) Jan 10 05:10:17 anyone know whether gerald drops by ever? Jan 10 05:11:23 never Jan 10 05:11:47 try the google group. Jan 10 05:11:47 ok Jan 10 05:12:03 I've pinged him an email already .. just curios Jan 10 05:12:07 with a U :/ Jan 10 05:44:44 hmmm Jan 10 05:45:44 has folks thawed out yet? Jan 10 05:45:59 hello. all. I am new here. Jan 10 05:46:18 I am thinking about spinning my own bone board. Jan 10 05:46:26 I am a hardware guy. Jan 10 05:46:50 can anyone tell me what I need in term of software to get the processor up and running. Jan 10 05:48:33 why? Jan 10 05:49:32 I want to make a smaller board. Jan 10 05:50:10 I can do schematics and layout for it. Jan 10 05:50:49 3.141592: You need WORKING softwared :D Jan 10 05:51:18 bootloader? Jan 10 05:51:34 where are you hailing from, 3.141592? Jan 10 05:52:15 Canada Jan 10 05:52:34 how small of a board are you looking at? Jan 10 05:52:48 evaluating a tiny board myself Jan 10 05:53:36 half the size of the bone Jan 10 05:53:48 Oh... that isn't small Jan 10 05:54:08 I found the Altium Schematics for BBB and layout online. Jan 10 05:54:22 I can generate gerber and get it fab. Jan 10 05:54:22 easier to start with the TRM Jan 10 05:54:39 after populating the components then my knowledge stop there. Jan 10 05:55:02 I have a BBB myself and loving it. want to make a smaller version of it. Jan 10 05:55:16 I don't see the point of just half size Jan 10 05:55:32 a nice 1"x1" postage stamp size is more interesting Jan 10 05:56:00 I am building a wearable bone. Jan 10 05:56:20 BBB watch. Jan 10 05:56:34 1/2 size is like 2"x2" Jan 10 05:56:34 built in wifi module Jan 10 05:56:39 yes. Jan 10 05:56:39 too big for a watch Jan 10 05:56:59 I am a big dude. Jan 10 05:57:05 add a battery and might as well call it a mace :D Jan 10 05:57:16 can anyone share with me how can I get a fresh board up and running? Jan 10 05:58:14 bootloader is my hit? Jan 10 06:02:04 took four days of searching but i finally found a BBB to buy, for $70 Jan 10 06:02:22 my adventures in PMIC replacement was a failure to fix my broken ones Jan 10 06:05:18 I need to get the bootloader to boot up the Linux in BBB? Jan 10 06:07:57 RTFM Jan 10 06:09:39 where is the menu? Jan 10 06:09:45 I need to RTFM Jan 10 06:18:51 I got a beginner question for all of you guru out there. Jan 10 06:21:32 is there any firmware expert here? Jan 10 06:27:43 HardwareGUy what's your questions Jan 10 06:27:49 *question? Jan 10 06:29:01 I am not sure how to ask this question. It is very hard for me due to lack to knowledge. Jan 10 06:29:17 then just try hard and we go from there Jan 10 06:30:52 ok. put it this way. Say, I populated a board similar to that of the BBB with the Sitera AM3359AZCZ100 on it. What do I need to do to bring it up? Jan 10 06:32:18 You? an act of a diety? Jan 10 06:32:59 HardwareGUy, so you ask about ways to boot the cpu ? Jan 10 06:33:28 Say I lay this board out, populated the PCB and then what? https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Black/blob/master/BBB_SCH.pdf?raw=true Jan 10 06:34:12 what happen after power on reset? Jan 10 06:34:44 Yes, I think my question might be" ways to boot the cpu" Jan 10 06:34:55 have you programmed any flash/uSD to make it boot .. so it has something to Run ? Jan 10 06:35:03 well basicly the cpu is looking at the sysboot pins and decides on that which way to look for a 1st stage loader Jan 10 06:35:19 I program FPGA. Jan 10 06:35:29 page 6 on that pdf Jan 10 06:35:55 fpga won't give the AM335x processor code to run Jan 10 06:36:00 you need some MEmory. Jan 10 06:36:29 fpga is just logic Jan 10 06:38:23 on POR the chip reads the status of some pins . to determine .. essentially .. What to Do. Jan 10 06:38:55 HardwareGUy, assuming you got this pcb , so fairly the BBB itself then you want the sysboot pins accordingly, setup your serial console and see if you can get any output from he cpu rom Jan 10 06:41:39 the cpu rom itself will push out chars on the console so if you get this then you can look into providing a 1stage via mmc or serial Jan 10 06:46:01 would someone point to some documentations? Jan 10 06:48:39 well at your stage i would recommend all the TI manuals at the same time Jan 10 06:49:48 http://www.ti.com/product/am3359 Jan 10 06:50:07 the Technical Reference Manual especially Jan 10 06:50:43 the TI wiki page is linked there too .. http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Sitara_AM335x_Portal Jan 10 06:51:24 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_Hardware_Design_Guide <- this one is actually for you and describes the process abit Jan 10 09:35:54 hi! Jan 10 12:23:34 hi. Jan 10 12:23:45 who's there? Jan 10 12:25:07 i can not boot BBB, maybe mistake the process of upgrade... Jan 10 12:25:15 what can i do? Jan 10 12:26:07 what does it do when you connect power to it? Jan 10 14:32:53 So apparently I'm back at the point I was when I originally tried to build 3.8.13-bone32 from the tar file. http://pastebin.com/xhmGYKcZ Jan 10 14:33:17 "error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by checkout: net/netfilter/xt_RATEEST.c, net/netfilter/xt_TCPMSS.c" Jan 10 14:35:38 I scared him off :( Jan 10 15:18:41 I have a question regarding the bbb Jan 10 15:18:59 ask away... Jan 10 15:19:07 only one? Jan 10 15:19:08 how lucky! Jan 10 15:19:58 how refreshing Jan 10 15:20:11 hmm I loaded my dtbo and attached my oscilloscope to pin 25 on p9 but my test does not show any output Jan 10 15:20:15 anyone on? Jan 10 15:20:39 ANY output? Not even ground or +3.3V? Is your scope on? :) Jan 10 15:20:40 lots of people listed Jan 10 15:21:05 nobody's here mandata Jan 10 15:21:16 / Enable OCP master port Jan 10 15:21:19 what does this mean Jan 10 15:21:24 mandata: just ask Jan 10 15:21:26 do I need it for gpio from a PRU Jan 10 15:27:58 ssh on my bbb stopped working. Jan 10 15:28:20 when I start it up just a blank screen Jan 10 15:28:57 telnet via the serial port does not work also Jan 10 15:29:04 but I can see the files. Jan 10 15:29:15 do you see the heartbeat LED Jan 10 15:29:25 yes. alive an well. Jan 10 15:29:28 so you can sftp? Jan 10 15:29:48 he probably means the usb fs Jan 10 15:30:15 hm I set r30 to 0xffffffff, that should have all muxed gpios turn 1, right Jan 10 15:30:17 hmm, good question. I don't think so, but let me try. wait, i don't know if i have sftp Jan 10 15:30:25 i have pscp Jan 10 15:30:43 that uses ssh, though, right? Jan 10 15:30:54 yeah Jan 10 15:30:58 so probably not Jan 10 15:31:05 my only guess is corrupt memory Jan 10 15:31:12 wait, putty has a psftp Jan 10 15:31:30