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Jan 11 03:49:49 <CareBear\> zump : you don't need much to do a prototype: http://stuge.se/dsc_4319.jpg
Jan 11 03:51:03 <prpplague> pro-toe-type
Jan 11 03:51:27 <zump> CareBear\: how do u do wire wrapping
Jan 11 03:51:36 <Russ> that's not wire wrap
Jan 11 03:51:38 <Russ> thats just perf
Jan 11 03:52:41 <CareBear\> it is wire wrapping wire at least :)
Jan 11 03:52:45 <CareBear\> but I never wrap
Jan 11 03:52:52 <CareBear\> just like I never use breadboards
Jan 11 03:53:20 <CareBear\> I make enough errors myself, I don't need f-ing glitchy tools to make more!
Jan 11 03:53:27 <CareBear\> s,to,that,
Jan 11 03:53:45 <prpplague> hehe
Jan 11 03:54:13 <prpplague> solder all the things
Jan 11 03:54:16 <CareBear\> yes
Jan 11 03:54:46 <prpplague> zump: there are half dozen proto boards available for black
Jan 11 03:54:49 <zump> how did u get htose wires in like that
Jan 11 03:54:57 <prpplague> zump: and three new ones coming in feb
Jan 11 03:55:03 <CareBear\> zump : I cut them, stripped them, and soldered them
Jan 11 03:55:25 <CareBear\> actually, solder one end, cut and strip, then solder the other
Jan 11 03:55:57 <zump> CareBear\: why dont you do this http://www.piclist.com/techref/pcbwires.htm
Jan 11 03:56:44 <prpplague> hahaha
Jan 11 03:56:50 <CareBear\> zump : have you tried it?
Jan 11 03:57:09 <zump> nope but i want to. stripping and cutting wire is a pita
Jan 11 03:57:53 <prpplague> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_numbers
Jan 11 03:58:28 <CareBear\> zump : stripping and cutting is effortless if you have halfway useful toosl
Jan 11 03:58:30 <CareBear\> tools
Jan 11 03:58:56 <zump> which one do u use? is it on ebay? i use scissors its the worst
Jan 11 03:59:01 <CareBear\> piergiacomi hand tools are amazing value for money, you can also spend more and get some real tools from erem (cooper hand tools)
Jan 11 03:59:08 <CareBear\> it's not on ebay
Jan 11 03:59:25 <prpplague> zump: small systems with relatively low connection count such as what CareBear\ did works extremely well
Jan 11 03:59:49 <prpplague> zump: primarily for designs that are prototyping but need to be ridged instead of something done on breadboard
Jan 11 04:00:02 <CareBear\> zump : I have worked with enameled cupper wire too, but I find that pretty annoying to strip
Jan 11 04:00:14 <prpplague> zump: the issue is that the complexity of connections is usually exponential to the complexity of the design
Jan 11 04:00:42 <prpplague> zump: and beyond a certain point it makes very little sense to do solder by hand as compared to the ability to do a prototype pcb
Jan 11 04:01:11 <CareBear\> zump : admittedly I've tried many more types of thicker wire than I have enameled cupper wire, so my experience is a bit biased. for some things I'll choose enameled cupper wire even though it might be more effort
Jan 11 04:01:40 <zump> I think ive got the wrong wire cause when i solder the end the plastic melts arghh and it gets messy
Jan 11 04:02:10 <CareBear\> typical of pvc or teflon insulation
Jan 11 04:02:16 <CareBear\> not useful
Jan 11 04:02:25 <CareBear\> fine for crimping, not for soldering
Jan 11 04:02:43 <CareBear\> look for ptfe insulation
Jan 11 04:03:07 <zump> ahh k
Jan 11 04:03:07 <CareBear\> the green wire on my board I don't know who makes, the blue is OK Industries KSW24B
Jan 11 04:03:44 <CareBear\> 100ft 22 EUR
Jan 11 04:03:58 <CareBear\> oh right, kynar insulation
Jan 11 04:04:04 <CareBear\> I forgot about that
Jan 11 04:04:08 <CareBear\> even better
Jan 11 04:04:41 <CareBear\> get single conductor
Jan 11 04:04:46 <prpplague> http://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/psp.png
Jan 11 04:04:53 <CareBear\> the green is awg30 the blue is awg24
Jan 11 04:05:05 <CareBear\> yeah
Jan 11 04:07:16 <CareBear\> KSW30B-0100 is 100ft 30awg for 20 eur
Jan 11 04:07:34 <CareBear\> buy one of each and they'll last you for years
Jan 11 04:09:36 <CareBear\> meh copper not cupper
Jan 11 04:27:34 <zump> CareBear\: but it will be the same color:( wat about power n gnd
Jan 11 04:45:03 <hiredman> when I run `opkg upgrade` my beaglebone seems to become unresponsive
Jan 11 04:46:11 <hiredman> not afterwards, the upgrade doesn't happen, it seems to lock up trying to run it
Jan 11 04:49:23 <johnwalkr> hiredman: known problem with angstrom
Jan 11 04:49:24 <johnwalkr> http://www.element14.com/community/thread/27219/l/opkg-upgrade-destroy-beaglebone
Jan 11 04:49:50 <johnwalkr> though locking up might also just be a power problem whe you start to push the cpu
Jan 11 04:50:57 <hiredman> well, it doesn't destroy it, it reboots fine
Jan 11 04:51:11 <johnwalkr> yes
Jan 11 04:51:16 <johnwalkr> doens’t destroy it
Jan 11 04:51:28 <johnwalkr> maybe that was a bad post to link to, it was just the first hit i found
Jan 11 04:51:42 <johnwalkr> if it’s still booting it might be power, are you powering by usb?
Jan 11 04:53:06 <hiredman> yes
Jan 11 04:53:53 <hiredman> is the barrel power plug regulated? I have a 9v supply, will it fry the board?
Jan 11 04:54:57 <hiredman> ah, this post says above 5.2 it won't power on
Jan 11 04:55:53 <myself> you must regulate externally
Jan 11 04:58:28 <ali_and> is there an alternate to using vlib from ti ? on DM3730
Jan 11 04:59:32 <ali_and> i mean, ARM running linux hands off some video processing / image processing tasks over to DSP. and I'd want something like openCv to be running on DSP side
Jan 11 05:35:47 <prpplague> CareBear\: http://hackaday.com/2009/09/04/hard-core-nintendo-dsi-hacking/
Jan 11 11:21:55 <vvu|Log> i am trying to use the AVerMedia DVD EZMaker 7 (C039) with the BBB but /dev/video0 is not created
Jan 11 11:22:16 <vvu|Log> this is my dmesg http://pastebin.com/wEHujJYa
Jan 11 11:23:49 <vvu|Log> and my lsusb -vv http://pastebin.com/7Y4nA3wZ
Jan 11 11:23:59 <vvu|Log> any hints ? as i know there is kernel support for it
Jan 11 11:27:30 <heeen> hiredman: you can use the pruss without device tree overlays
Jan 11 11:27:46 <heeen> you will have to invoke a magic script to tickle the pruss alive
Jan 11 11:28:23 <heeen> and you can use gpios only through their memory adresses which means everything goes through the memory bus, possibly saturating it and slowing the system down
Jan 11 11:28:53 <heeen> to work around that you must use a dto to mux pru r30 to pins
Jan 11 11:29:08 <heeen> and when you use a dto you donm't need the magic script anymore
Jan 11 11:31:05 <zmatt> you might be able to do the pinmux from the pruss perhaps, depending on what sideband signals it supplies (ie if it claims to be privileged or not)
Jan 11 11:34:28 <heeen> really?
Jan 11 11:36:06 <zmatt> PRUSS has L3 access to the L4_Wakeup on which the control module resides, so the only thing that could prevent it from working is the control module's hardwired permission check
Jan 11 11:48:03 <zmatt> hmm, interesting... why do I have two versions of SPRUH73H on my HD, both dated April 2013, with a different number of pages...
Jan 11 12:20:59 <johnwalkr> i’m using zmq to send controller commands over wifi
Jan 11 12:21:12 <johnwalkr> didn’t see you whole question but it was pretty easy to do
Jan 11 13:07:48 <heeen> does SUB underflow on the PRU
Jan 11 13:09:28 <zmatt> not sure what you mean by that?
Jan 11 13:11:23 <zmatt> I'm pretty sure pru does standard unsigned arithmetic with carry/borrow out (and optionally in)
Jan 11 13:12:11 <zmatt> (no signed overflow/underflow indication or saturation)
Jan 11 14:05:29 <johnwalkr> this is so weird. i have 4 i2c devices. i can write to all 4, but only read from 2
Jan 11 14:23:42 <zmatt> johnwalkr: sure you have the read sequence right for the other two?  I've noticed there's a fair bit of variation between i2c devices with regard to that
Jan 11 14:24:03 <johnwalkr> yeah
Jan 11 14:24:10 <johnwalkr> i’ve been using them the same way for a while
Jan 11 14:24:18 <johnwalkr> fried my BBB and couldn’t find a new one
Jan 11 14:24:30 <johnwalkr> using raspberry pi now
Jan 11 14:24:59 <johnwalkr> going to try changing the speed, looking up if there is a difference to what i had before
Jan 11 14:25:12 <zmatt> hmm
Jan 11 14:26:06 <zmatt> on the board I'm working with I still have the issue that any attempt to access the i2c eeprom causes it to hold the clock low indefinitely, locking up the bus... luckily it turned out I didn't need that eeprom so never looked into it
Jan 11 14:40:32 <johnwalkr> so far i found this: http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/raspberry-pi-i2c-clock-stretching
Jan 11 14:42:43 <zmatt> weird, I have trouble imagining what a driver would need to do to support clock stretching, other than maybe set a bit to enable it
Jan 11 14:44:01 <johnwalkr> yeah but it’s raspberry pi
Jan 11 14:44:27 <zmatt> I'm fortunately quite unfamiliar with it (beyond the fact that it exists)
Jan 11 14:44:59 <johnwalkr> for what it is, it’s great. but BBB is way better unless you need fast video
Jan 11 14:45:19 <johnwalkr> rpi is just kind of weird. doesn’t even have mounting holes, for example
Jan 11 14:48:01 <johnwalkr> that didn’t work
Jan 11 14:48:07 <johnwalkr> but i can use i2cdump and read all values
Jan 11 14:48:11 <johnwalkr> but i2cget doesn’t work
Jan 11 14:48:12 <johnwalkr> so weird
Jan 11 14:48:25 <johnwalkr> and my python code using smbus doens’t
Jan 11 14:50:35 <zmatt> just checked, bcm2835 i2c controller doesn't require anything special from the driver for clock stretching support... you just set the desired timeout value in a register and that's it (defaults to 64 clock cycles)
Jan 11 14:53:54 <johnwalkr> thanks
Jan 11 14:54:14 <johnwalkr> do you have a link to the datasheet?
Jan 11 14:54:24 <zmatt> "datasheet"
Jan 11 14:54:30 <zmatt> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf
Jan 11 14:54:35 <zmatt> fairly pitiful
Jan 11 14:54:42 <zmatt> 10 pages on the i2c controller (chapter 3)
Jan 11 14:55:03 <zmatt> after seeing this, I'm glad I'm working with TI SoCs :P
Jan 11 14:58:26 <zmatt> oh and there's an errata too, see http://elinux.org/RPi_Documentation#Hardware_.2F_Software_Datasheets
Jan 11 14:59:13 <zmatt> (documentation errata, not chip errata)
Jan 11 14:59:45 <johnwalkr> thank you
Jan 11 14:59:54 <zmatt> thank google :P
Jan 11 15:00:35 <zmatt> ah, i2c has a chip bug wrt clock stretching
Jan 11 15:00:36 <zmatt> fun
Jan 11 15:00:47 <zmatt> "The Broadcomm BCM2835, which is used on the Raspberry Pi, has a serious bug in its I2C implementation, which can (a) prevent I2C communication with some devices and (b) lead to data corruption (both in read and write direction)."
Jan 11 15:01:01 <zmatt> "As a result, do not use I2C-devices which use clock-stretching directly with the Raspberry Pi directly or any other Broadcomm BCM2835-based device."
Jan 11 15:01:04 <zmatt> \o/
Jan 11 15:01:05 <zmatt> :D
Jan 11 15:01:11 <zmatt> Fix: None
Jan 11 15:09:03 <zmatt> (other than making sure clock stretching isn't used)
Jan 11 15:16:36 <johnwalkr> well
Jan 11 15:16:48 <johnwalkr> it’s gotta be fixable because i2cdump can get all values
Jan 11 15:16:58 <johnwalkr> so far no luck
Jan 11 15:17:27 <johnwalkr> also, i wrote the firmware on the things that don’t work so i can change things at either end
Jan 11 15:18:58 <johnwalkr> anyway a new appreciation for beaglebone
Jan 11 15:19:17 <johnwalkr> you should see what i had to do to get it to fit where i had my BBB too
Jan 11 15:19:39 <johnwalkr> remove the usb ports, hdmi, ethernet, audio, and video jacks
Jan 11 15:20:15 <johnwalkr> solder a microsd in place instead of using the sd slot, and solder my usb wifi card
Jan 11 15:20:18 <johnwalkr> a wonder it even works
Jan 11 15:21:20 <zmatt> lol
Jan 11 15:22:01 <zmatt> it's not really fixable other than making i2c slow enough to make sure no device ever uses clock stretching
Jan 11 15:22:44 <zmatt> even if it works you risk random data corruption... see the detailed analysis -> http://www.advamation.com/knowhow/raspberrypi/rpi-i2c-bug.html
Jan 11 15:22:52 <johnwalkr> that’s ok probably
Jan 11 15:24:28 <johnwalkr> really appreciate the links and hlpe
Jan 11 15:32:39 <zmatt> np
Jan 11 15:45:55 <aurelien> where to buy sensorcape in Europe?
Jan 11 15:49:18 <tbr> it doesn't look like it's for sale anywhere?
Jan 11 15:50:00 <aurelien> I do not find solution to purshase it at this time ... so I asked here
Jan 11 15:50:41 <tbr> the cad files are for download, you could just send them over to any local PCB company
Jan 11 15:51:26 <aurelien> OMGNU I have never done somehting like that ... Have you got some "improved" link?
Jan 11 15:52:56 <tbr> I only used google to find the project page, so I don't know more than you
Jan 11 15:53:09 <aurelien> ok, thanks tbr
Jan 11 16:58:46 <angelkiller2> hi there, anybody can help me with a bbb rev A5C? My problem is that the bbb wont boot from emmc, only from sd card. Flashing the image "BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.09.04.img.xz" is working but try to boot without sd only usr led 0 + 2 is flashing now since 2 hours and no dhcp ack in my router is shown.
Jan 11 16:59:02 <angelkiller2> booting the image from sd works
Jan 11 16:59:20 <angelkiller2> can it be that the emmc is defect
Jan 11 17:08:12 <johnwalkr> you sure it flashed ok?
Jan 11 17:08:28 <johnwalkr> you could try using dd while booted on sd to flash a new image
Jan 11 17:08:28 <angelkiller2> i think
Jan 11 17:09:04 <angelkiller2> have try it but an error that no capacity is shown
Jan 11 17:09:34 <angelkiller2> Cannot write to `BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.09.12.img.xz' (No space left on device)
Jan 11 17:10:04 <Rocky123> Got my BBB back yesterday, I am a very novice software type, got the BBB to work to some extent and it is real neat but I seem to need some detail information on how the OS and cloud IDE works.....any detailed documentation around?
Jan 11 17:10:06 <johnwalkr> can you paste the dd command you used?
Jan 11 17:10:25 <johnwalkr> also i think the image would be different
Jan 11 17:10:33 <johnwalkr> not emmc-flasher image
Jan 11 17:10:51 <angelkiller2> i tried with xz
Jan 11 17:10:58 <angelkiller2> to extract the image
Jan 11 17:11:52 <angelkiller2> xz -cd debian-wheezy-7.2-armhf-3.8.13-bone30.img.xz > /dev/mmcblk1
Jan 11 17:11:57 <angelkiller2> that i tried
Jan 11 17:12:11 <Rocky123> Problems encountered...can't create a folder under cloud9 and some how clobbered some example files that came with the unit and don't know how to recover them if in fact I can.
Jan 11 17:12:29 <johnwalkr> oh
Jan 11 17:13:40 <angelkiller2> i now wipe my sdcard with the hp format tool
Jan 11 17:14:08 <johnwalkr> that should work i think
Jan 11 17:14:13 <johnwalkr> the xz command
Jan 11 17:14:14 <angelkiller2> and than wich image i should write to it with w32diskimager?
Jan 11 17:14:53 <johnwalkr> that xz command
Jan 11 17:15:00 <johnwalkr> you are running it on your BBB right?
Jan 11 17:15:05 <angelkiller2> no it is not working with xz, the error no capacity left on device is shown
Jan 11 17:15:06 <johnwalkr> when booted via sd?
Jan 11 17:15:25 <angelkiller2> i think there is something wrong with my mmcblk1
Jan 11 17:15:52 <angelkiller2> yes i booted a deb image
Jan 11 17:15:56 <johnwalkr> maybe, would explain it
Jan 11 17:16:16 <angelkiller2> or the image i flashed (BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.09.12.img.xz)
Jan 11 17:16:38 <angelkiller2> booted the bbb
Jan 11 17:16:51 <angelkiller2> but the command wont work by no space error
Jan 11 17:17:35 <Rocky123> angel...I ran into that problem of no capacity when I down loaded the image directly to the SD and then tried to extract it on teh SD. I downloaded the image to the C drive and then extracted it to the SD....not sure if this is it.
Jan 11 17:18:36 <johnwalkr> what is the output of: ls /dev/mmc*
Jan 11 17:18:56 <angelkiller2> mom it is booting up whit sd card
Jan 11 17:19:26 <johnwalkr> ok, haha
Jan 11 17:19:44 <johnwalkr> i dunno then :/
Jan 11 17:20:35 <johnwalkr> found a reference to a similar problem here but you probably already saw it: http://letsmakerobots.com/node/37106
Jan 11 17:21:03 <angelkiller2> debian@arm:~$ ls /dev/mmc*
Jan 11 17:23:49 <angelkiller2> "/dev/mmcblk0  /dev/mmcblk0p1  /dev/mmcblk0p2  /dev/mmcblk1"
Jan 11 17:26:51 <johnwalkr> hmm
Jan 11 17:26:54 <angelkiller2> i found the reference to, but he wrote after a few minutes, when i tried it it was shown directly
Jan 11 17:27:34 <johnwalkr> no boot0 and boot1 but mmcblk1 is ther
Jan 11 17:27:43 <angelkiller2> yes
Jan 11 17:27:55 <angelkiller2> only mmcblk1
Jan 11 17:28:06 <johnwalkr> i kind of think your image dind’t work. this is hunch but i suspect if it was fried mmcblk1 wouldn’t be there
Jan 11 17:28:48 <angelkiller2> my sd card has a fresh wipe
Jan 11 17:29:09 <angelkiller2> which image you mean i shoud try now
Jan 11 17:29:50 <johnwalkr> i would try the flasher image
Jan 11 17:30:03 <johnwalkr> and boot with it and wait like an hour before rebooting
Jan 11 17:30:16 <angelkiller2> BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.09.12.img.xz
Jan 11 17:30:18 <angelkiller2> this
Jan 11 17:30:55 <johnwalkr> ya
Jan 11 17:32:23 <Rocky123> Is there any good detailed documentation available on the Angstrom OS for extreme novices?
Jan 11 17:33:17 <angelkiller2> booting it with s2 button pushed right?
Jan 11 17:34:50 <johnwalkr> i think that doesn’t matter but can’t hurt
Jan 11 17:35:18 <bitnumus> hi, i'm using GPIOs for a keypad, however it only works under root. Is it possible to boot directly into root on debian ? seems awful but how else would it usually be done ?
Jan 11 17:35:21 <johnwalkr> s2 is confusing the behaviour has changed a few times in most distributions
Jan 11 17:36:55 <veremit> bitnumus: you might be able to change permissions on the GPIO system to allow other users access
Jan 11 17:37:12 <bitnumus> that clearly would be the best option here i think
Jan 11 17:37:23 <bitnumus> don't suppose you have any docs on that ?
Jan 11 17:38:30 <angelkiller2> the flasher image automiticly flash the image to emmc without pushing the button?
Jan 11 17:38:48 <johnwalkr> not 100% sure
Jan 11 17:39:22 <angelkiller2> will try it
Jan 11 17:39:40 <johnwalkr> apparently all 4 leds are solid when it’s done
Jan 11 17:39:53 <angelkiller2> yes
Jan 11 17:40:10 <tbr> on first boot after flashing, give it 10 minutes to settle in
Jan 11 17:40:24 <angelkiller2> i let it doing something an hour
Jan 11 17:40:39 <johnwalkr> yeah then after you reboot 10+ mins
Jan 11 17:40:43 <johnwalkr> i’ve made that mistake
Jan 11 17:40:53 <johnwalkr> reboot thinking something was wrong
Jan 11 17:40:59 <angelkiller2> hi tbr, i give him 2 hours :-(
Jan 11 17:41:05 <angelkiller2> but nothing
Jan 11 17:41:11 <johnwalkr> but really i stopped some important process
Jan 11 17:41:16 <tbr> angelkiller2: you rebooted after the LEDs went solid?
Jan 11 17:41:17 <bitnumus> veremit, are you aware of anything like Quick2Wire for the beaglebone ?
Jan 11 17:41:44 <veremit> not met it myself, bitnumus
Jan 11 17:41:47 <angelkiller2> after the leds solid i powered off
Jan 11 17:41:58 <veremit> bitnumus: there must be python interfeaces for sysfs
Jan 11 17:43:44 <veremit> bitnumus: does https://github.com/quick2wire/beaglebone help?
Jan 11 17:44:20 <bitnumus> coudl well do!
Jan 11 17:45:03 <veremit> bitnumus: http://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-io-python-library-on-beaglebone-black/using-the-bbio-library was my starting point
Jan 11 17:45:19 <bitnumus> i'm using that library
Jan 11 17:45:20 <bitnumus> hmm
Jan 11 17:45:32 <bitnumus> ok i'll try reading more :)
Jan 11 17:46:10 <veremit> bitnumus: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18926979/beaglebone-black-adafruit-io-python-library-gpio-user-permissions
Jan 11 17:46:12 <angelkiller2> i am able to connect to the bbb via ssh during flasher image is doing his work
Jan 11 17:47:02 <veremit> angelkiller2: 'top' will show when its finished :)
Jan 11 17:47:06 <angelkiller2> with top command it shows me something with mmcblk
Jan 11 17:47:16 <veremit> yup yup . you should see the scripts in the list too
Jan 11 17:47:32 <veremit> mmblkd is the mmc write/read daemon
Jan 11 17:47:44 <angelkiller2> {emmc.sh} /bin/bash /usr/bin/emmc.sh
Jan 11 17:47:49 <angelkiller2> is this the script
Jan 11 17:47:51 <veremit> thats it
Jan 11 17:48:51 <angelkiller2> df tells
Jan 11 17:49:02 <angelkiller2> "/dev/mmcblk1p2         1738184   1143012    505208  69% /media/2"
Jan 11 17:49:20 <veremit> angelkiller2: one mmcblk will be your SD card
Jan 11 17:49:28 <angelkiller2> think the emmc is correct
Jan 11 17:49:54 <veremit> you should see mmcblk0p1 and -p2 and mmcblk1p1 and -p2
Jan 11 17:50:51 <angelkiller2> "root@beaglebone:~# ls /dev/mmc*"
Jan 11 17:51:01 <angelkiller2> "/dev/mmcblk0       /dev/mmcblk0p2     /dev/mmcblk1boot0  /dev/mmcblk1p1
Jan 11 17:51:01 <angelkiller2> "
Jan 11 17:51:02 <veremit> depending on your SD size .. you should be able to identify 2G of eMMC and your SD card
Jan 11 17:51:11 <angelkiller2> "/dev/mmcblk0p1     /dev/mmcblk1       /dev/mmcblk1boot1  /dev/mmcblk1p2
Jan 11 17:51:11 <angelkiller2> "
Jan 11 17:51:27 <veremit> using "fdisk -l"
Jan 11 17:52:24 <angelkiller2> "        Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
Jan 11 17:52:24 <angelkiller2> "
Jan 11 17:52:44 <angelkiller2> "/dev/mmcblk1p1   *          63      144584       72261    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
Jan 11 17:52:44 <angelkiller2> "
Jan 11 17:53:07 <angelkiller2> "/dev/mmcblk0p2          144585     7132859     3494137+  83  Linux"
Jan 11 17:53:41 <angelkiller2> "/dev/mmcblk1p2          144585     3743144     1799280   83  Linux"
Jan 11 17:53:46 <veremit> angelkiller2: you might wanna try pastebin.com [or similar] - I think some lnes are missing.
Jan 11 17:53:48 <angelkiller2> thats right
Jan 11 17:56:20 <angelkiller2> http://pastebin.com/LXanVbSU
Jan 11 17:57:38 <angelkiller2> think it is looking good
Jan 11 18:00:30 <veremit> once the procedure is complete I think all LEDs turn on, yes? and then you can either re-power or shutdown first :D
Jan 11 18:00:37 <angelkiller2> after flashing when all leds up, than shutdown and booting without sd right? Is there a problem without having a monitor installed to the bbb?
Jan 11 18:01:09 <veremit> angelkiller2: no ..  it'll come up just the same .. I've flashed without any connection
Jan 11 18:01:58 <angelkiller2> ok, i look at my firewall for dhcp ack
Jan 11 18:02:28 <veremit> angelkiller2: or dhcp leases .. our router admi page is invaluable for that :)
Jan 11 18:02:52 <angelkiller2> yes
Jan 11 18:03:16 <angelkiller2> my firewall shows me everything i must know :-)
Jan 11 18:03:29 <veremit> as indeed it should :D
Jan 11 18:28:34 <angelkiller2> ok all lights are up
Jan 11 18:29:23 <veremit> g/luck .. but u won't need it ;_
Jan 11 18:29:24 <veremit> ;)
Jan 11 18:29:54 <angelkiller2> think it is the same
Jan 11 18:30:03 <angelkiller2> led3 is doing nothing
Jan 11 18:30:21 <veremit> one of them doesn't do a whole bunch .. you tryin gto toggle it?
Jan 11 18:30:24 <veremit> sure its not claimed by something?
Jan 11 18:32:05 <angelkiller2> no dhcp leae on firewall
Jan 11 18:32:09 <angelkiller2> :-(
Jan 11 18:34:04 <smssms> Considering getting a BBB, was wondering if anyone runs Puppy Linux on them?
Jan 11 18:34:23 <veremit> why puppy?
Jan 11 18:34:56 <smssms> It is so small and resource ligth I thought it might be a good choice (and Ilike it)
Jan 11 18:34:59 <veremit> angelkiller2 .. link's up? you don't see a pattern of flashy lights starting at one and 3/4 heart-beat after a few seconds?
Jan 11 18:35:23 <veremit> smssms: angstrom is a deliberately lightweight distro .. and debian/ubuntu already have arm versions
Jan 11 18:35:30 <angelkiller2> no
Jan 11 18:35:43 <veremit> just power led?
Jan 11 18:36:06 <veremit> angelkiller2: do you have any way to connect to the debug header?
Jan 11 18:36:07 <angelkiller2> only led0 (strong) and led2 (very light) is flashing
Jan 11 18:36:21 <veremit> ah so it lives
Jan 11 18:36:23 <smssms> Thanks veremit
Jan 11 18:36:44 <veremit> smssms: that said .. many distros have enthusiasts who port theirs to arm
Jan 11 18:36:56 <veremit> smssms: I have heard people install gentoo on
Jan 11 18:36:58 <angelkiller2> but led3 (emmc) dont show anything
Jan 11 18:37:23 <veremit> I'm not sure I've seen it do anythig much ..
Jan 11 18:37:30 <veremit> sec looking at mine
Jan 11 18:39:19 <smssms> One other (total noob?) question - why are most UK suppliers out of stock of BBB at present?
Jan 11 18:39:43 <veremit> smssms: hard to get stock from US since circuitco only make a "few" at a time?! :)
Jan 11 18:39:50 <veremit> RS components showing stock
Jan 11 18:40:14 <veremit> unlike RPi, they really haven't stepped up productino is my thinking
Jan 11 18:40:14 <smssms> There is a bloke on eBay UK that seem to have a lot of private stock too...
Jan 11 18:40:26 <veremit> well that's never gonna help
Jan 11 18:40:31 <veremit> or he lies :D
Jan 11 18:40:41 <veremit> or he's on in UK ..
Jan 11 18:40:45 <veremit> not**
Jan 11 18:40:47 <smssms> £40 delivered.... in the UK
Jan 11 18:41:01 <veremit> he's making a good cut then :)
Jan 11 18:41:09 <veremit> good business
Jan 11 18:42:21 <veremit> last I looked, stock levels in US were low
Jan 11 18:42:42 <veremit> I'm not sure .. but might be new board revision coming.
Jan 11 18:43:40 <angelkiller2> @verimit do you see led3 on bootup doing something?
Jan 11 18:44:59 <veremit> angelkiller2... unfortunately the onebeside me is somewhat dead . but I' trying to remember what pattern I see at work ..
Jan 11 18:46:02 <veremit> angelkiller2 .. I wouldn't fret too much if the board comes up on ethernet .. but since it doesn't .. there much be aproblem .. one of the end LEDs is heartbeat .. if that doesn't flash regularly (like 1/sec) we got a problem, houston :)
Jan 11 18:47:20 <angelkiller2> the led0 is flashing every second two times
Jan 11 18:47:42 <angelkiller2> the led3 is flashing all the time
Jan 11 18:47:46 <veremit> hmm ... looking at documentation per beagleboard.org .. I don't recall exactly what happens between LED2/3 .. as they both flicker quite fast when booting.
Jan 11 18:47:50 <angelkiller2> led2 i mean
Jan 11 18:47:58 <angelkiller2> 3 is doing nothing
Jan 11 18:48:11 <veremit> Ever?
Jan 11 18:48:17 <angelkiller2> yes
Jan 11 18:48:24 <angelkiller2> ever
Jan 11 18:48:34 <angelkiller2> not constant
Jan 11 18:48:42 <angelkiller2> but blinking very fast
Jan 11 18:49:14 <veremit> it is unlikely to be on except for short pulses .. if it doens't work at all and board boots . I'd suspect LED failure :)
Jan 11 18:50:21 <angelkiller2> on monday i buy a hdmi adapter
Jan 11 18:50:31 <veremit> the answer on puppy .. was there's a puppy-on-arm site .. lol
Jan 11 18:51:01 <veremit> angelkiller2: my boss board a uHDMI->HDMI cable for his :)
Jan 11 18:51:01 <angelkiller2> i let it now for an hour in this state and looking later
Jan 11 18:51:06 <veremit> bought
Jan 11 18:51:59 <angelkiller2> is this the same cable like samsung galaxy s3?
Jan 11 18:52:12 <angelkiller2> will try it monday
Jan 11 18:52:40 <veremit> possibly
Jan 11 18:52:52 <veremit> still no dhcp? mine comes up in .. say .. 2min ?
Jan 11 18:53:15 <veremit> tis funny .. hittin UpArrow o the ssh til it connects :D
Jan 11 18:53:25 <veremit> angelkiller2: you could try usb/net ?
Jan 11 18:53:44 <veremit> if using linux do you have gadget drivers in your kernel?
Jan 11 19:30:57 <smssms> The noob is back! Can anybody point me to a Europen seller of BBB that has stock (and preferably English option website language and accept PayPal)?
Jan 11 19:31:33 <veremit> yikes .. really narrowing it down with paypal .. no credit cards?
Jan 11 19:31:48 <veremit> no prepayment cards?
Jan 11 19:32:06 <smssms> Maybe, but I cant even find any stock...
Jan 11 19:32:26 <veremit> which country you in?
Jan 11 19:32:43 <smssms> I'm in the UK and thinking about it, CC would be ok as payment too
Jan 11 19:37:08 <smssms> brb
Jan 11 19:37:33 <veremit> think the bad news is back-order for early feb .. seein it all the uk distro's.
Jan 11 19:37:45 <veremit> someone nuked the 800 stock showin on RS yesterday.
Jan 11 19:37:50 <veremit> unles the RS site is brked
Jan 11 19:40:04 <smssms> I've been looking on and off for a few weeks and not been seeing any UK stock...
Jan 11 19:40:23 <smssms> Now searching European sites top and not finding any
Jan 11 19:40:37 <veremit> I think there's global stock issue
Jan 11 19:40:44 <veremit> don't see any in US
Jan 11 19:41:01 <veremit> they're frigign made there .. which is why I think we're waitin for a production batch.
Jan 11 19:41:06 <smssms> Maybe the £40 eBay bloke is looking like a bette rbet?
Jan 11 19:41:18 <veremit> if you're desperate :D
Jan 11 19:41:25 <veremit> otherwise gotta wait I recon
Jan 11 19:41:30 <veremit> I need to rMA this one :D
Jan 11 19:41:32 <smssms> Well, I do quite fancy my first BBB
Jan 11 19:49:47 <smssms> ha ha, another one has just come up on eBay for £42, I think supply & demand is kicking in! BUY BUY  BUY!
Jan 11 19:53:52 <veremit> Iwouldn't pay more than 30 ... I'l wait lol
Jan 11 19:53:57 <veremit> thats just me
Jan 11 19:54:09 <veremit> and I ain't paid for a single ARM computer yet .. *snicker* <3 my boss
Jan 11 19:55:37 <smssms> Will your boss send me one?
Jan 11 19:56:43 <veremit> newp .. mine is dead and needs RMA :p
Jan 11 19:56:46 <veremit> lol
Jan 11 19:56:55 <veremit> </3 payin shipin to TX< USA
Jan 11 22:28:32 <angelkiller2> @veremit, no dhcp since 3 hours
Jan 11 22:31:43 <angelkiller2> flashing now again with hold the button
Jan 11 22:31:47 <veremit> angelkiller2 .. yeah thats not right
Jan 11 22:32:04 <veremit> shouldn't make a difference .. but its the "proper" way
Jan 11 22:32:05 <angelkiller2> see in the morning whats going on or not
Jan 11 22:32:13 <veremit> heh where you based?
Jan 11 22:32:24 <angelkiller2> germany
Jan 11 22:32:45 <angelkiller2> i found it on ebay
Jan 11 22:32:53 <veremit> the bb?
Jan 11 22:32:57 <angelkiller2> yes
Jan 11 22:33:20 <veremit> cheap?! lol
Jan 11 22:35:43 <angelkiller2> 30 Euro
Jan 11 22:36:27 <angelkiller2> i call the dealer or give him a bad reputation
Jan 11 22:37:12 <angelkiller2> it is flashing now and i say good night
Jan 11 22:37:20 <angelkiller2> tell more tommorow
Jan 11 22:37:31 <angelkiller2> thanks for helping
Jan 11 22:40:52 <veremit> welcome .. sleep well
Jan 12 02:03:18 <jmumby> anyone here today?
Jan 12 02:09:01 <N2TOH> nope
Jan 12 02:53:37 <Mrp> Hello,
Jan 12 02:54:39 <Mrp> Does anyone have experience connecting to BBB with an ipad?
Jan 12 02:56:14 <myself> like, over ssh? or connecting how, do you mean?
Jan 12 02:58:30 <Mrp> Yes over sash I have the BBB connected to the internet via Ethernet and am trying to use my ipad, I have tried a couple of sash apps but cannot get them to connect
Jan 12 02:59:06 <veremit> if you have a SSH app .. surely you just find the BBB's IP and connect .. bosh .. ?
Jan 12 02:59:20 <Mrp> Ssh not sash
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