**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 27 03:00:00 2014 Jan 27 03:45:08 Hi folks. I bought a UWN200 wifi adapter, need to install on my beaglebone black. I'm running the 13.10 ubuntu distro from elinux.org. I'm having a hard time trying to find out how to compile the drivers against that kernel. Any hints? Jan 27 05:05:32 _av500_ < - hey Jan 27 05:09:11 anyone bee able to get Arduino dev env to run on XM? Jan 27 05:09:56 got it to strart up but failedls Jan 27 05:17:56 some java issue according to the error msg Jan 27 05:41:40 <_av500_> patience... Jan 27 05:50:18 is a virtue Jan 27 08:52:55 hello Jan 27 08:53:25 hi Jan 27 08:53:55 I have a question. I am trying to make a low budget Ubuntu PC to my parents Jan 27 08:54:09 and 2 most important thing is Skype and wireless Jan 27 08:54:16 Crimson: don't use a BBB Jan 27 08:54:29 why? Jan 27 08:54:31 don't use an arm box at all. Jan 27 08:54:42 they will hate it, and you will hate them for hating it. Jan 27 08:55:06 my parents will use it for web browsing and skype Jan 27 08:55:16 if its runs skype it will be allright Jan 27 08:55:29 will ubuntu on bbb sport skype? Jan 27 08:55:48 you're limited to 1280x1024 on the BBB, and the web "experience" is far from what people expect on a desktop. Jan 27 08:56:01 no skype Jan 27 08:56:13 and no skype. Jan 27 08:56:16 and no flash Jan 27 08:56:17 unless you convince M$ to release an ARM port Jan 27 08:56:26 well, you can run android on it Jan 27 08:56:35 and no accelerated (== fluent) video player Jan 27 08:56:40 e.g. BAD DESKTOP Jan 27 08:56:43 crimson: Would your parents like a set of Skype libraries for Arm that they get to write a UI for? Jan 27 08:57:00 No Jan 27 08:57:14 do android on bbb will sport skype? Jan 27 08:58:24 maybe Jan 27 08:58:34 if you invest a lot of work Jan 27 08:58:35 android means: terrible mouse/keyboard interaction, no office. Jan 27 08:58:38 make a usb camery work Jan 27 08:58:50 it might work in the end Jan 27 08:58:50 e.g. BAD DESKTOP Jan 27 08:58:59 a $99 Android tablet is a far simpler solution Jan 27 08:59:12 exactly. Jan 27 08:59:22 buy a cheapo table, it has a browser and skype. Jan 27 08:59:28 Thanks for your help. Jan 27 09:14:06 hello,how to auto load module after boot up in BeagleBone Black ? Jan 27 09:15:34 sam__: /etc/modules sounds like a good place, IMHO Jan 27 09:26:10 Yes I add my module name in /etc/modules file and save .ko file in /lib/module/kernel_no/kernel/driver and then give 'dipmod' command but it not works . Jan 27 09:27:13 well then diagnos standard modprobing etc. first Jan 27 09:28:09 that means using manually insmod command ?Yes manually all is fine. Jan 27 09:28:56 not insmod, i mean modprobe, only by module name, not by path. to see if the directory structure and depmod things are ok., Jan 27 09:30:56 I give 'modprobe hello.ko' command and it gives 'FATAL: Module hello.ko not found.' Jan 27 09:31:41 it should be "modprobe hello" Jan 27 09:32:03 and if that doesn't work, you're not correctly installing the module to /lib/module Jan 27 09:33:56 Yes 'modprobe hello' works what next please ? Jan 27 09:34:14 ah, someone in search of exact-steps™ Jan 27 09:34:48 sam__: think what you had to tell to modprobe, and tell the same things to /etc/modules Jan 27 09:35:26 besides that, you'll have to google yourself (i won't do it for you and i don't have other ideas right now.) Jan 27 09:38:59 Thank you !! Jan 27 12:20:55 did anyone ever find a cape which adds a eth port ? Jan 27 12:22:16 there is none Jan 27 12:22:23 unless you like SPI speed Jan 27 12:22:49 just use an usb->ethernet one Jan 27 12:28:29 much faster too Jan 27 12:29:55 2fast 2furious Jan 27 12:31:41 attach a GBit usb ethernet dongle for TrollSpeed™ Jan 27 12:33:14 and if you use KarmaKorrekt Kables (which I will happily sell you for an insane price) you might even get SüperTröllSpeed Jan 27 12:34:10 the ones with the arrows that guide the electrons? with iq-free copper? Jan 27 12:35:08 tbr: in our latest release we don't only have arrow, we even print stop signs onto them for the super stupid ones amongst the electrons. Jan 27 12:35:45 hence we can guaranteeeven more electrons than ever before taking the right direction! Jan 27 12:36:11 so, less shot noise? Jan 27 12:36:35 less of every noise. Jan 27 12:37:00 white noise, pink noise, blue noise, even of black noise and rainbow noise. Jan 27 12:38:04 Mëtälnöisë? Jan 27 12:39:23 the new KarmaKorrekt Kables are so noise-rejecting that you even can't listen to Britney Spears anymore Jan 27 12:39:34 she will be automatically muted. Jan 27 12:41:14 for the next generation we even plan to extend noise detection onto actually measurable things instead of purely psychologic ones. Jan 27 12:41:49 but testing is very hard and expensive there, you know. Jan 27 12:45:06 yeah, explains the 1k€ markup per cable ;) Jan 27 12:47:50 please buy the calbes for 1k€ so we have more money for development and can sell you the next gen soon for 2k€!!! Jan 27 13:53:41 http://rt.com/usa/nsa-radio-wave-cyberattack-607/ Jan 27 13:54:49 its says rt.com Jan 27 13:55:02 also, its old news Jan 27 14:15:33 Is it impossible to get the hands on a beagle bone black? Anyone? Jan 27 14:16:22 futuredesign: why should it be impossible? Jan 27 14:17:22 * av500 has both hands on one Jan 27 14:17:27 and nose Jan 27 14:17:31 pinky? Jan 27 14:17:32 there's one available on ebay along with rare NES gamechip. Jan 27 14:17:39 Back order everywhere I look. Jan 27 14:17:55 yes Jan 27 14:17:56 futuredesign: well then order and wait. Jan 27 14:17:59 you are not the only one Jan 27 14:18:03 just order and wait Jan 27 14:18:08 Don't have 28 weeks or more... Jan 27 14:18:11 first orders first served. Jan 27 14:18:35 if you had ordered 28weeks ago, you now could lay your hands onto one. Jan 27 14:19:20 Did not need one 28 weeks ago. And I don't have a crystal ball :-D Jan 27 14:19:42 then maybe you should order a crystal ball first. Jan 27 14:20:02 futuredesign: just order one now, and then if them come into stock anywhere else before cancel and order from there Jan 27 14:20:15 the longer you leave it, the longer you will wait Jan 27 14:20:15 What happened to forecast and availability? Jan 27 14:20:26 they all got sucked up over christmas Jan 27 14:20:46 now all the newly produced boards, are being shipped to all the back orders Jan 27 14:20:58 so you just need to get in queue Jan 27 14:21:01 futuredesign: they are just as always, just everybody else ordered earlier thean you. Jan 27 14:21:43 there are supposedly overpriced ones available in micromart/radioshack etc... if you're in America Jan 27 14:22:02 but you would have to go searching Jan 27 14:22:04 i think i can spare one... lets say 4711$ plus shipping, ok? Jan 27 14:22:08 it's open source.. build your own :) Jan 27 14:22:09 I will cue up. I just don't understand the cue thing.. I don't get in line for apples or BC547's. Jan 27 14:22:20 and in that case, why not just get a beaglebone white Jan 27 14:22:55 futuredesign: well then don't cue up and don't complain. Jan 27 14:23:15 if apples were selling faster than they could grow you would be queueing for apples too Jan 27 14:23:16 futuredesign, you don't stand in line for multi-source commodities..got it. right. Jan 27 14:23:16 jackmitchell: white might be the answer, but also non stock at digikey (have not checked with others) Jan 27 14:24:39 there are other board available immediately. if you insist on a BBB - get in line ;) Jan 27 14:24:50 futuredesign: http://cpc.farnell.com/circuitco/bb-bone-000/kit-dev-beaglebone-cortex-a8/dp/SC12568 Jan 27 14:25:22 https://specialcomp.com/beaglebone/index.htm Jan 27 14:25:45 as mention on friday Jan 27 14:26:51 jackmitchell: Thank! I'll have a look and stop my whining :-D Jan 27 14:27:10 don't stop. this channel was made for whining Jan 27 14:27:19 lol Jan 27 14:27:47 somebody write code for me Jan 27 14:27:50 give me exact steps Jan 27 14:27:53 whaaaaaaaaa Jan 27 14:27:57 we can't whine if #beagle doesn't whine, it's the circle of venting Jan 27 14:28:24 the circle of steps Jan 27 14:28:44 the circle of knife Jan 27 14:28:48 step 1) go to step 1 Jan 27 14:28:48 Jan 27 14:29:58 ... step 3 profit Jan 27 14:31:13 unreachable statement in line 3 Jan 27 15:19:22 jackmitchell: Found one black in Denmark at overprice, but that's fine :-D Jan 27 15:19:48 futuredesign: you need to know the right people Jan 27 15:19:54 futuredesign: then a piece of chocolate is enough Jan 27 15:20:29 KotH: Cost is not an issue, time is. Jan 27 15:22:08 KotH: Of cause it's nice to save a doller, however, I don't mind paying for good stuff. Jan 27 15:22:20 hear hear Jan 27 15:32:07 * KotH makes a note to sell futuredesign some "good stuff" Jan 27 15:34:13 KotH: 90%? Jan 27 15:35:23 av500: i have also 30-50%'s in the "good stuff" section Jan 27 15:35:35 av500: and some of the 0% are also not b ad Jan 27 15:35:37 bad* Jan 27 15:36:13 Hi I am the guy who asked about tty line disc last week, anyone remember me? Jan 27 15:37:22 no Jan 27 15:37:24 we forget fast Jan 27 15:37:25 I just have a short question, how can I read the data from serial in userspace? I saw the code in slip, it does implement tty_read, does it mean i cant call read() to obtain data from slip, right? Jan 27 15:37:28 no discipline here.... Jan 27 15:38:42 ohoh , anyone helps? Jan 27 15:40:24 you read from /dev/ttyXYZ Jan 27 15:40:25 there're tutorials out there for reading from /dev/ttyOx Jan 27 15:41:44 .o0(serial port programming is diffucult, lets use node.js) Jan 27 15:42:15 this is what I used.. to get started Jan 27 15:42:22 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html Jan 27 15:42:26 nicknick: did you write the discipline part? Jan 27 15:43:26 yes Jan 27 15:43:32 it's got a bit of reading, but fairly mostly it's stuff you should know Jan 27 15:43:53 I try to put a decoding module there, so my user space can get a frame out of the kernel space Jan 27 15:44:08 Hi, quick question, BBB vs BB which one has less power consumption at low power mode. Jan 27 15:44:16 depends Jan 27 15:44:23 none are made for low power Jan 27 15:44:37 nicknick: did you write a line discipline? Jan 27 15:44:45 yes Jan 27 15:44:49 I did Jan 27 15:44:55 and registered it? Jan 27 15:44:59 yes Jan 27 15:45:10 I just wonder how to read it from userspace Jan 27 15:45:12 so now open() your tty and ioctl it Jan 27 15:45:17 with read() Jan 27 15:45:28 Let's say i just need to transmit tcp/ip data every minute or so Jan 27 15:45:41 ioctl (fd, TIOCSETD, &ldisc); Jan 27 15:45:44 but if I didnt implement tty read in the line disc ops structure, how can I read it Jan 27 15:46:00 line discipline is in kernel space Jan 27 15:46:04 you read from it in user space Jan 27 15:46:06 with read() Jan 27 15:46:24 D15 over ethernet? Jan 27 15:46:34 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/1891/ Jan 27 15:46:36 it's assigned a file in /dev/tty0x Jan 27 15:46:45 but do i need a fucntion to copy the kerenal buffer to user buffer? Jan 27 15:46:48 @av500 yeah Jan 27 15:47:03 so where does low power come in? Jan 27 15:47:10 you run from battery? Jan 27 15:47:13 just read and write straight to the file Jan 27 15:47:14 yes Jan 27 15:47:29 after a bit of setup Jan 27 15:47:47 what if I want to implement asynchronized mode? Jan 27 15:47:51 ? Jan 27 15:48:12 I want to have a call back function that will be called when I get a complete frame? Jan 27 15:49:11 you block in read() Jan 27 15:49:15 @av500 this maybe a stupid question, lighttpd still runs even when kernel is idling right? Jan 27 15:49:18 or use poll/select Jan 27 15:49:22 kernel shall call a userspace callback? sure?!? Jan 27 15:49:23 no callback Jan 27 15:49:28 av500: ++ Jan 27 15:49:38 blocking read, poll/select Jan 27 15:49:43 hrhrhr Jan 27 15:51:01 if I want to block the read when no complete frame is completed from user space, what shall I do in the kernel space Jan 27 15:51:08 I dont know Jan 27 15:51:14 not return data I guess Jan 27 15:52:39 http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/chp-6-sect-2 Jan 27 15:52:48 6.2.4. A Blocking I/O Example Jan 27 15:53:19 plus what comes after that Jan 27 15:53:33 hmm, simple sleeping Jan 27 15:53:38 sound like my chapter :) Jan 27 15:53:41 pretty much your COTS implementation Jan 27 17:17:03 this looks good for iot http://devices.wolfram.com Jan 27 17:17:03 surprisingly, they didn't have any beagle Jan 27 17:42:45 i think i'm having issues with the BBB serial driver (debian install), but I'm not sure how to debug it Jan 27 17:42:58 anyone here have experience with the BBB serial situation? Jan 27 18:00:14 travisgriggs: I'm not qualified to help, but I can suggest that you explain what you're trying, how it's failing, whether there's a particular tutorial you're following, etc. Jan 27 18:03:24 i'm trying to talk serial with another device. college helped me with the serial pin out configuration (cape manager files). i have a thrash test that opens port (ttyO4) sends a 4 byte command ('abc\n') and reads the response (using pyserial/python3). it does that repeatedly Jan 27 18:04:39 after a bit (it varies randomly it seems), it will stall. one of two things seems to happen in the device that gets the serial command. either a) it sees 'bc\n\n' (dropped first char, doubled last) or b) it sees 'abcc' (drops last, doubles first) Jan 27 18:05:25 i'm trying to get my head around where the fault is happening. when i run the same thrash script on my MBP using a usb ftdi serial cable, it works forever, no issues Jan 27 18:05:49 we also did a little C code version of the same test on the BBB, but it fails same way Jan 27 18:06:29 we *think* the open/close around the command has something to do with it. because when we just open the port and continuously send/receive on the same open instance, it's fine Jan 27 18:06:49 Open/close might be reinitializing the FIFO pointers, perhaps? Jan 27 18:07:18 hi Jan 27 18:07:35 Are you instructed to flush the buffer after opening the port, before trusting the contents, perhaps? Jan 27 18:08:01 how can i become an authorized distributor for this line? Jan 27 18:11:39 myself: dunno. i've tried the various flushOutput/flushInput calls at the python level and it doesn't seem to change it. not sure what the libc calls would be to do that Jan 27 18:13:16 Huh. Well I'm out of my depth, but the detail you've provided should mean others have something to start from... Hang out a few hours if you can. :) Jan 27 20:30:57 travisgriggs: do you have a dso or logic analyzer by any chance? :) Jan 27 20:44:54 Hi, I read the FAQ on boards shipped per month, and I understand there is a backlog, but Digikey says my BeagleBoardBlack won't ship for about 13 weeks. Does that sound correct, or are they just being overly pessimistic? Thanks. Jan 27 20:46:14 $55 at specialcomp.com, ships immediately. Jan 27 20:46:41 it's always an estimate, no scientific is ever used. ;) Jan 27 20:52:51 Looking for guidance,... has anyone used radiumboards camera cape with BBB and ubuntu running motion? Jan 27 20:56:16 Newbie question: Does adafruit's wifi adapter work with BeagleBone kernels 3.8+? According to Adafruit, the answer is no, but I haven't tried it yet. Jan 27 20:56:25 reference: http://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone/wifi Jan 27 21:01:54 iandow: it's an usb wifi dongle, i dont see any reason why it shouldnt work Jan 27 21:02:02 iandow: at most, you need to recompile the kernel Jan 27 21:02:25 Koth: thanks. Jan 27 21:02:28 @Koth: thanks. Jan 27 21:02:37 no @ required Jan 27 21:02:41 * KotH isnt that important Jan 27 21:02:46 sometimes, structures change a bit... Jan 27 21:37:10 do you know if it's easy to install xenomai on bbb running angstrom? Jan 27 21:40:55 hi #beagle! how can i disable the standard welcome servers on the beaglebone black? ie. the webserver, the cloud9 ide etc.? Jan 27 21:42:23 ssl_, http://project-bonsai.org/disabling-services-on-the-beaglebone-black/ Jan 27 21:43:04 perfect, thanks rcn-ee Jan 27 21:44:30 i can't get it working Jan 27 21:46:07 the build kernel script finishes ok, but then... how i should install the new kernel on the bbb? Jan 27 22:13:54 I am (Newbie)looking for buying a Wifi Dongle for my beagle bone black, Most of the online tutorial uses older Beagle bone, could some one suggest me a dongle compatible/ Reliable with Beagle bone black? Jan 27 22:44:23 <_spm_Draget> Oh wow. It has been a while since I checked the debian images for the beaglebone black. The new installer and scripts are *very* easy and work just perfect. Well done, nelson, well don! Jan 27 23:21:39 Vaizki_: I do have a dso Jan 27 23:24:46 it's not the highest end one though. i can easy count characters xmitted. so i can make sure it's indeed sending 4 characters width. it's a lot harder to get the zoom to be able to verify the individual bit patterns. i've got a buddy that might be able to come in next week who has a super dooper high powered scope that interprets multiple protocols and such Jan 27 23:40:40 travisgriggs: ok.. sounds a bit weird... so what is this "other device" receiving the data? Jan 27 23:41:21 it's an in-house board, running an atmel xmega256a3 Jan 27 23:43:53 ok so they should both be TTL 3v serial devices Jan 27 23:44:42 and does the speed of the serial port matter at all? Jan 27 23:48:45 like i see, there's some weirdness around the frequent open/close of the serial port. i changed my code to open it once and just use it evermore. that's been working fine for a while now Jan 27 23:51:13 yea well the omap serial driver (which I think is used) may not have been quite as much tested for that kind of use... Jan 27 23:58:12 the omap serial driver can go MUCH faster than the console uses Jan 27 23:59:40 we just upgraded our kernel to 3.2 to get support for the omap serial drivers.. they can handle 3Mbaud with flow control Jan 28 00:00:55 the old standard drivers had sync issues if you tried taking them much beyond the console speed Jan 28 00:09:05 thurgood: I meant opening & closing the serial port every 4 characters Jan 28 00:09:30 but maybe travisgriggs also needs the new drivers then Jan 28 00:10:06 i think i'm using the omap ones Jan 28 00:10:13 we're running at 230400 Jan 28 00:10:24 (that's about as much as the xmega is comfortable with) Jan 28 00:10:28 I suppose it depends on how frequently those 4 characters are being sent Jan 28 00:10:42 is PRU memory access timing written up anywhere? Jan 28 00:11:37 uname -a is Linux arm 3.8.13-bone32 #1 SMP Fri Dec 13 16:57:41 UTC 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux Jan 28 00:12:45 if you're using a post 2.6.35 kernel and it has /dev/ttyOx as your ports it's using the omap serial drivers Jan 28 00:13:42 we were using a very old kernel... and upgraded to an out of daate kernel Jan 28 00:14:49 but. we got the faster serial drivers to support bluetooth audio and maintained sgx support Jan 28 00:15:51 why is the port being opened and closed? Jan 28 00:17:24 bluetooth audio!? on the beagle? Jan 28 00:23:34 it's not strictly a beagle but it's based on a bit of the classic and xM boards Jan 28 00:27:08 oh ok my bad :) Jan 28 00:28:23 but we are using the same smsc hub and dm3730 as the xM... so it should be possible Jan 28 00:29:50 actually I think it bypasses the hub and is connected to the secodn hsusb pins directly Jan 28 00:43:59 The copy mmc to emmc script by robertcnelson seems to copy /proc, /tmp/rootfs, /sys etc. along with many errors. (current git master) Jan 28 01:12:43 spm_Draget, not if you use '/bin/bash' .. https://github.com/RobertCNelson/tools/blob/master/scripts/beaglebone-black-copy-microSD-to-eMMC.sh#L221 Jan 28 01:27:07 naive question. what's the right way to refer to ConnectionError ? try: pass except ConnectionError: pass highlights ConnectionError as unresolved... Jan 28 01:27:36 does that come from a module that I don't have imported, i looked at the docs, but didn't see anything about containing modules for these.... Jan 28 01:45:43 rcn-ee I got it working (with help from some friends)! Jan 28 01:46:29 turns out the sd card was well imaged but I couldn't tell because bot my mmc and my sd card were running debian. I even got owncloud working on it(ish) Jan 28 02:17:10 I just got my BBB today and plugged in the USB to my Ubuntu box. I can SSH, but it won't accept a blank password for user root. Jan 28 02:21:00 I think the password for root is root Jan 28 02:21:06 nope .. its either 'root' or there is no root Jan 28 02:21:18 root should never have no password .. EVER Jan 28 02:23:23 I agree, but the docs I'm reading say the default no password Jan 28 02:23:36 which are these? Jan 28 02:23:44 * veremit gets out the lighter ... hehehehe Jan 28 02:24:05 http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started Jan 28 02:24:11 "When using 'ssh' with the provided image, the username is 'root' and the password is blank." Jan 28 02:24:24 in the "Troubleshooting" section Jan 28 02:25:10 ah on ssh .. I have seen something odd Jan 28 02:25:24 it won't prompt you if there's no pwd .. Jan 28 02:26:00 but it does Jan 28 02:26:24 then there mus tbe one .. or its denied .. is this the angstrom image it came with? Jan 28 02:26:49 yeah, I haven't done anything to it but look at the website and the USB storage on it Jan 28 02:27:38 The nic & route appears to be setup properly: 192.168.7.0 * 255.255.255.252 U 1 0 0 eth2 Jan 28 02:28:17 whats the problem flickerfly ? Jan 28 02:28:29 authentication it seems Jan 28 02:28:32 I just got the board tonight and when I try to SSH it asks for a password Jan 28 02:28:36 ssh not working or somethign else ? Jan 28 02:28:54 it works, but I don't know what password it wants Jan 28 02:29:03 not sure what angstrom uses for the default passwd any more Jan 28 02:29:06 Is there some factory reset that I could try? Jan 28 02:29:34 case sensitive?? Jan 28 02:29:37 weird Jan 28 02:29:38 also dropbear tends to lose its mind and goes 0 bye file size and ther is a fix just dont remember whqt it is exactly Jan 28 02:29:43 should be root/root Jan 28 02:29:49 Linux is always case sensative Jan 28 02:30:39 flickerfly, do you have a 3v3 to USB converter ? Jan 28 02:30:40 I'm a linux sysadmin by trade Jan 28 02:31:08 m_billybob, I could probably re-rig my 5v one. I think it has a solder bridge option for that. Jan 28 02:31:13 you could attempt to log in via the debug console Jan 28 02:31:26 m_billybob... that'd be my next avenue lol Jan 28 02:31:33 ah ok just make aboslutly sure it is 3v3 Jan 28 02:31:47 yeah, I'll check it with the meter Jan 28 02:31:59 is there some specific directions somewhere? Jan 28 02:32:02 'scope if you can Jan 28 02:32:09 the bbb only uses txd rxd and gnd for what its worth Jan 28 02:32:22 well i made a p;icture for wiring Jan 28 02:32:25 standard pinout? Jan 28 02:32:30 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Accessories#Serial_Debug_Cables Jan 28 02:32:33 second let me get the link Jan 28 02:33:27 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3oca40vrH-g/Ubd5TjD-0_I/AAAAAAAAALU/-GibZBaTvKk/s1024/beaglebone-black-serial.jpg Jan 28 02:33:27 thansk Jan 28 02:33:49 flickerfly: you you have a microsd card? you could reflash also Jan 28 02:34:06 many people prefer ubuntu over angstrom anyway Jan 28 02:34:07 no, I don't have one on around Jan 28 02:34:12 * flickerfly nods Jan 28 02:34:17 that'll probably be where I end up. Jan 28 02:34:23 ick .. buntu Jan 28 02:34:27 I just wanted to tour the default environment first Jan 28 02:34:33 maybe arch too Jan 28 02:34:40 debian . . . Jan 28 02:34:51 this is what i did last june Jan 28 02:34:53 http://forum.beaglefu.com/topic/92-msp430-launchpad-v15-serial-debug/?p=275 Jan 28 02:34:56 pne ofthe things Jan 28 02:35:14 poor mans serial debug lol Jan 28 02:35:45 Oh, that's interesting. I happen to have an mps430 around. Jan 28 02:38:29 grrr Jan 28 02:38:34 heh yeah however . . . you'd need access to the rootfs to change /etc/inittab or equivelent Jan 28 02:39:17 I was just about to say .. just plug ya uSD into ... uhm .. but its eMMC :( lol Jan 28 02:41:47 flickerfly, anyhow, being a sys admin you'd most definately wantot change distro's. Probably to Debian, or arch id think. one of the BSD's run on it too from what ive heard Jan 28 02:43:23 m_billybob, yeah, sure I will. Jan 28 02:43:36 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black Jan 28 02:43:50 ^^ debian / ubuntu instructions Jan 28 02:44:05 well that is cross compilign the kernel yourself Jan 28 02:44:15 thanks, first step is to get the proper sd Jan 28 02:44:31 ARCH instructions . . .yeah not sure. Jan 28 02:44:51 I have some friends that may disown me for not trying arch on it. I'm sure they'll help :-) Jan 28 02:45:27 im set in my ways with debian . . . dotn really feel liek trying anything new Jan 28 02:45:40 there's arch instrcutions and gentoo .. and others Jan 28 02:45:40 othewise lol i might try arch myself Jan 28 02:45:49 jus google :) Jan 28 02:45:57 not interreted in arch Jan 28 02:46:24 no xmbc yet ;) lol Jan 28 02:46:30 that I seen ... ! Jan 28 02:46:36 gentoo maybe, but i have a life and dont need another time sink Jan 28 02:46:41 lol Jan 28 02:46:49 I'm quite liking debian lately Jan 28 02:48:27 ive been using debian off an on since hmmm . . . mid 90's. Have jumped aroudn experimenting with BSD( all ) Solaris, slackware redhate ( mandrake too ), and I always seem to come back to debian Jan 28 02:49:29 knowing myself, the technical challenge of gentoo would definately suck me in . . but honestly i dont have that much time on my hands any more Jan 28 02:49:34 linux has matured so much over the last 20 years Jan 28 02:50:39 I could never get redhat to install on my pentium .. now I'm putting distros on embedded ARM boards :D Jan 28 02:50:52 im very impressed with the progress debian has made in the last few years Jan 28 02:51:11 they've totally stuck to their core values .. and widened their base Jan 28 02:51:29 ubuntu has just exploded into .. well .. I dunno how to describe it Jan 28 02:51:56 ubuntu has always ben junk in my opinion Jan 28 02:56:32 i used to use slackware but now i like debian best Jan 28 02:57:15 i like freebsd more but eventually you get sick of things that are a pain to compile on it Jan 28 02:57:59 when it comes to doing anything serious ive never had debian dissapoint **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 28 02:59:59 2014