**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 13 02:59:58 2014 Mar 13 03:02:51 i have a question? anyone wana help. never done this before Mar 13 03:06:19 sure, what's your question Mar 13 03:06:48 So i want to make a video camera that i can pan/tilt (has to be as small as possible with good video) the camera needs to be on a cable that can extend 300-600'. just kind of want to know where to start.. Thanks Mar 13 03:08:52 I had a video camera on a real alredy but the camera broke and the video wasnt that great anyways. Its used for looking into water wells if that helps. Mar 13 03:09:27 they are very pricey Mar 13 03:10:36 I've heard of people buying old cell phones with broken screens and just pulling the camera out of them. Mar 13 03:11:06 and they are fully compatible with the beagle? Mar 13 03:11:38 most of those should be easy to get working Mar 13 03:11:46 Otherwise I don't know much about the cameras themselvs. There is a Camera Cap made to implement quicklogic that can pretty much run a full camera, but only up to 5mb Mar 13 03:12:34 i am just worried about the cable length on the camera, i still have the old reel. it should be fine up to 600'? Mar 13 03:13:36 I don't know. Anyone else have more knowledge? Mar 13 03:13:55 It's pretty quiet this time of day Mar 13 03:14:08 no worries.. whens a good time? Mar 13 03:15:14 i have an old carl zuiss camera on my old phone i think that would work pretty good.. ill try that and see what happens Mar 13 03:15:16 early afternoon, 1-2pm EST Mar 13 03:16:00 ok cool thanks a bunch.. talk to you later .. thanks again Mar 13 03:16:06 I used skype and a wifi access point to interface a phone camera with an rc helicopter. thats about the extent of my knowledge Mar 13 03:52:14 <_Aqua> When I had ubuntu on my BBB I had to change the setting UTC=(to no) in the /etc/default/rcS file to get my time correct. Does anyone know the equivelant in angstrom? Mar 13 04:22:24 <_Aqua> ahh, figured it out: timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 Mar 13 04:23:08 <_Aqua> got sgx working today, pretty stoaked about that. ;) Mar 13 05:03:03 can you tell me compile a Ubuntu Image to run on this beagleboard. Mar 13 05:04:42 pleas etell me i am very new to it Mar 13 05:04:46 i have never used it before Mar 13 05:06:33 i have never used it before Mar 13 05:08:49 dayita: which tutorial are you following? Mar 13 05:16:22 can one edit the uEnv.txt file from the installed linux distro? Mar 13 06:17:09 From where i can get Source code for BBB.? Mar 13 06:18:43 k-man: yes you can edit from the running Ångström but I don't know that distro at all Mar 13 06:19:24 it's probably under /media or something, anyway it's on the first partition of the flash memory, which is formatted as a FAT volume Mar 13 06:20:17 But I don't want to use Angstram.....I want to use source from WWW.KERNEL.ORG Mar 13 06:22:02 Is it Possible? Mar 13 06:22:47 But I don't want to use Angstram.....I want to use source from WWW.KERNEL.ORG...IS it Possible? Mar 13 06:25:06 holy shit did someone pour extra stupid on your bowl of stupid flakes this morning? Mar 13 06:28:02 this is one of those "If you had enough clue to actually do that, you wouldn't be asking, so why are you asking?" situations. Mar 13 08:20:02 hi everyone Mar 13 08:36:32 Hi all! :) Can anybody tell me where I can find the physical address of the BeagleBone DM Timers? Mar 13 08:36:41 in the TRM Mar 13 08:37:52 I had a look in the AM335x ARM Cortex-A8 Microprocessors (MPUs) Technical Reference Manual (Rev. J) , but I couldn't find any address :( Mar 13 08:38:06 I have the feeling, that I am searching in the wrong document... :/ Mar 13 08:40:04 they could be in the datasheet, but the TRM would have been my first guess as well Mar 13 08:42:24 Give me a minute - I will have look Mar 13 08:45:46 the datasheet does not contain any physical addresses as well Mar 13 08:48:09 My colleges have a OMAP file for their BeagleBoard-xM Mar 13 08:48:40 But there are 11 GPTimers defined Mar 13 08:48:59 So i guess that the OMAP of the BeagleBone (white) is another one... Mar 13 08:49:10 Because the BeagleBone has just 4 timers Mar 13 08:55:35 what is wrong with section 2.1 called memory map? Mar 13 08:56:24 in the TRM Mar 13 09:09:03 THANKS MAN :D Mar 13 09:09:17 You made my day :) Mar 13 10:42:44 http://beta.slashdot.org/story/199329 Mar 13 10:44:12 yawn Mar 13 10:44:19 :) Mar 13 10:45:23 I'm not the first one to post it ? :D Mar 13 10:46:18 if you make a time machien and hurry maybe Mar 13 10:47:06 if I managed to build one I'd probably have other priorities Mar 13 10:48:35 now because of you I have to tell my boss I won't work today because I'll reevaluate my life in regard to having a time machine Mar 13 10:50:21 i have debian on my bbb and I'm trying to get the spi port going. i created a dtbo file as per the instructions on the wiki, but it fails to load for some reason: http://pastie.org/8913829 Mar 13 10:50:24 any ideas? Mar 13 10:51:27 fails to load how? Mar 13 10:51:38 ah, paistie Mar 13 10:51:51 av500, yeah Mar 13 10:52:01 panto: ^^^^ can have a look? Mar 13 10:54:10 oh and by the way, i can live load it by doing "echo BB-SPI0-01 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots" Mar 13 10:54:18 seems quite a few people have this problem Mar 13 10:54:32 av500, ? Mar 13 10:55:04 panto: http://pastie.org/8913829 Mar 13 10:55:14 av500, no such overlay? Mar 13 10:55:21 ls /lib/firmware/*.dtbo ? Mar 13 10:55:36 its there Mar 13 10:56:26 ah Mar 13 10:57:10 no built in kernel right? Mar 13 10:57:31 where is your rootfs? sd card or emmc? Mar 13 10:57:36 well - not as far as i know Mar 13 10:57:42 sd card Mar 13 10:58:03 the sd card is enabled via an overlay too Mar 13 10:58:18 i see Mar 13 10:58:23 when the system boots at this point of the boot sequence it's not there yet Mar 13 10:58:30 ah, ok Mar 13 10:58:31 later kernels had a priority field Mar 13 10:58:42 yes i read something about that, but didn't understand it until you explained it Mar 13 10:59:00 ah i see - like how much later? (had? or have?) Mar 13 11:00:11 hang on Mar 13 11:00:14 i think this link talks about it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/Iem_mHknIUM Mar 13 11:00:19 panto: from where is the overlay to enable SD loaded? Mar 13 11:00:24 from sd? Mar 13 11:00:36 no, it's built in the kernel Mar 13 11:00:51 that would obviously not work, no? Mar 13 11:01:17 ah Mar 13 11:01:50 oh - hehe you are on that thread panto Mar 13 11:01:55 explaining the exact same thing Mar 13 11:02:34 nothing is new under the sun Mar 13 11:02:45 can i just work around it by making a post boot time script to manually load it? Mar 13 11:03:06 its not the "nice" way but should work no? Mar 13 11:03:07 you can try sticking a priority field in the cape definition Mar 13 11:03:15 something like priority = <10>; Mar 13 11:03:34 ok Mar 13 11:03:53 which is the link to git repo of the kernel you're using? Mar 13 11:03:58 just to let you know Mar 13 11:04:15 um - just the debian one Mar 13 11:04:31 do i need the <> around the 10? Mar 13 11:04:41 yes Mar 13 11:04:59 ok Mar 13 11:05:13 ok rebooting now Mar 13 11:07:52 no, still have the same error Mar 13 11:08:10 bootlog? Mar 13 11:08:24 there are ways around it Mar 13 11:08:39 a) built in the kernel the overlay Mar 13 11:08:43 http://pastie.org/8913868 the kernel command line... Mar 13 11:08:53 but turning on builtin firmware option Mar 13 11:08:55 bootlog being dmesg? or something else? Mar 13 11:09:04 hehe Mar 13 11:09:13 no, no, Mar 13 11:09:24 I meant putting the priority=<10>; line in the overlay Mar 13 11:09:34 ooooh... Mar 13 11:09:36 oops Mar 13 11:09:47 ok, back to the drawring board - sorry Mar 13 11:10:25 np Mar 13 11:11:20 ok, i'm going to need a little more guidance as to where I should put it Mar 13 11:12:13 pastebin the dts file Mar 13 11:12:54 ok Mar 13 11:12:58 k-man, apply this patch (it might help): http://pastebin.com/vajfgj0s Mar 13 11:13:02 panto: now I am confused, I thought that emmc is enabled late, but why sd? Mar 13 11:13:50 panto, apply it to what? is that kernel source Mar 13 11:13:52 ? Mar 13 11:13:59 yes Mar 13 11:14:59 why don't i just load it manually from rc.local? Mar 13 11:15:03 av500, I can't recall right now, but it's the mount problam Mar 13 11:15:07 k-man, yes, you can do that too :) Mar 13 11:15:12 *problem Mar 13 11:15:13 panto, i might do that Mar 13 11:22:12 hmm... even though i put that echo line in rc.local, it did not seem to enable the spi Mar 13 11:22:19 maybe rc.local didn't run? Mar 13 11:23:03 with systemd? Mar 13 11:23:19 hmm... no, its debian Mar 13 11:23:25 sysvinit i think Mar 13 11:30:04 ah, its a globbing issue to do with sh vs bash, rc.local has #!/bin/sh -e at the top of it Mar 13 11:30:46 would /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots always be at .9? Mar 13 11:35:56 ah, this is the solution thanks to #bash: set -- /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots; echo BB-SPI0-01 > "$1" Mar 13 12:07:59 k-man : you don't need to deal with set and a variable. your shell will expand also to the right of > as you know from using $1. so just put the path with * in there. Mar 13 12:10:02 CareBear\, not it seems in bourne shell Mar 13 12:10:44 k-man : debian you say? so it's dash? yeah, debian is retarded. Mar 13 12:10:54 oh maybe yeah Mar 13 12:11:03 its #!/bin/sh Mar 13 12:11:18 yep, dash, you are correct Mar 13 12:11:21 i forgot about that Mar 13 12:18:41 i'm looking for the source code Mar 13 12:18:45 where is it Mar 13 12:19:04 how do i optimise this arm thing for encryption Mar 13 13:23:51 join ##lcpd Mar 13 13:25:01 no Mar 13 13:31:04 happy steak and BJ day everyone :) Mar 13 15:34:17 Hi, can someone tell me if kernel 3.5 works on the smsc95xx chipset? The usb is enabled, but mouse/keyboard and network dont work....with the same options, kernel 3.10 does work fine Mar 13 15:36:32 what kernel? from where? Mar 13 15:40:56 vanilla linux kernel 3.5.7 Mar 13 15:42:56 using diff -y i compared both configured kernels...3.10 works fine with both network and usb, with 3.5 network is off, usb is on but mouse and kbd dont work Mar 13 15:47:56 Hi Guy`s anyone with this error on boot "U-Boot SPL 2012.10-rc2-00012-g8c3e267 (Oct 01 2012 - 21:07:30) Unknown board, cannot configure pinmux.### ERROR ### Please RESET the board ###"with s2 hold Mar 13 15:49:10 well where did you get that from and on what board are you trying to run it? Mar 13 15:50:09 hvn2: sorry, no idea about the state of vanilla Mar 13 15:50:34 either use the stock kernels or apply the rule that "newer is probably better" Mar 13 15:50:38 From Robert Nelson images, on BBB Mar 13 15:50:49 Stroker: i seriously doubt that. Mar 13 15:51:02 2012? Mar 13 15:51:12 get something recent please Mar 13 15:51:16 Stroker: the BBB was released april 2013, so its highly improbable that a 2012 u-boot can be correct Mar 13 15:51:19 Hey.. easy maybe I doing wrong OKy ? Mar 13 15:51:33 get a more recent image Mar 13 15:51:58 basically, get a recent image. one thats actually labeld as meant for the BBB Mar 13 15:53:15 OK, first things first, on the beagle has the original image, on the SD, the new image, Mar 13 15:53:47 av500: my problem is that i need to run the ROS environment which runs fine on ubuntu12.04 (kernel 3.2). Using kernel 3.10 it runs partly. So I want to test on this 3.5 kernel.... Mar 13 15:54:03 I have two boards, and I work a lot woth software, but nothing direct on u-boot, since I know Mar 13 15:54:51 hvn2: as said, vanilla 3.5 does not work Mar 13 15:55:01 please use one of the beagle kernels Mar 13 15:55:03 Stroker: not first things first - but leaving out all that unnecessary information: you are obviously trying to run some old software that was never meant for a BBB on a BBB. thats what you have to sort out. nothig else. Mar 13 15:55:12 they have tons of patches Mar 13 15:57:09 Leto this is the U-boot from serial degbuger, I dont know why have this date, Mar 13 15:57:14 is not from the image Mar 13 15:57:48 Stroker: that changes what exactly? Mar 13 15:58:29 Stroker: if something called "serial debugger" (i have no idea what you mean by that, but hey..) is trying to run a 2012 u-boot on a BBB, then it must be wrong. Mar 13 15:58:52 he means the serial console Mar 13 15:59:08 i did *specifically* not say that you must get another image. i specifially said *fix* the software you are trying to run. Mar 13 15:59:20 Sorry Leto, but What I am trying to say is that, the normal procedure to flash the NEW image on my BBB is giving me this prompt... I dont know why Mar 13 15:59:38 what normal procedure to flash? Mar 13 15:59:41 link please. Mar 13 16:00:06 Hold the S2 button Mar 13 16:00:07 Step #8: Boot your board off of the SD card Insert SD card into your (powered-down) board, hold down the USER/BOOT button (if using Black) and apply power, either by the USB cable or 5V adapter. If using an original BeagleBone, you are done. Mar 13 16:00:14 http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update Mar 13 16:00:45 so, what's on the SD card you're inserting? Mar 13 16:00:55 it matters... a bit. Mar 13 16:01:26 U-Boot SPL 2013.04-dirty (Jun 19 2013 - 09:57:14) Mar 13 16:01:38 i cannot read up on that guide now because bb.org seems to be down. Mar 13 16:01:55 Stroker: so you have the wrong content on the card Mar 13 16:02:01 av500: can you give me a url of the beagle kernels ? Mar 13 16:02:03 2012 is clearly wrong Mar 13 16:02:17 yes, it boils down to that. you somewhere went wrong and placed old stuff on your card. Mar 13 16:03:31 Ok.. thank you guys, I will flash the BBB again with all firware like brand new.. Mar 13 16:04:12 make sure you get the right firmware... Mar 13 16:04:27 otherwise you'll have the same problem Mar 13 16:04:33 https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel Mar 13 16:06:02 Downloading... Mar 13 16:11:17 av500: this is for the beaglebone....is there for the beagleboard-xm as well ? Mar 13 16:12:15 see the branches Mar 13 16:12:44 or maybe XM is not there Mar 13 16:12:53 might be that XM is still on 2.x Mar 13 16:15:34 av500: i dont see xm Mar 13 16:15:44 can you confirm ? Mar 13 16:28:19 uhm Mar 13 16:28:40 LetoThe2nd: Thanks for help, now I see whre I did worng.. Mar 13 16:28:51 i see a new debian image. is that stable? Mar 13 16:29:11 thow: depends on how massive your sd card is. Mar 13 16:29:16 8gb Mar 13 16:29:40 size != stable Mar 13 16:29:43 is it more stable than angstrom? Mar 13 16:30:00 mine are mostly rather instable, as they are all made from cheap chines plastic. Mar 13 16:30:01 I am trying to work on lvds adptor and use an image from bb "white" and I was thinking the problem was U-boot Mar 13 16:30:31 i was planning to flash emmc instead of using sd Mar 13 16:30:47 thow: nevermind, you did not get the joke. Mar 13 16:30:58 thow: please elaborate what you mean by "stable" Mar 13 16:32:09 i mean what everybody means when they use the term "stable" Mar 13 16:32:49 I think that means "we're not making constant changes to this build but it might still fall over" Mar 13 16:33:02 the building for lodging horses, of course. Mar 13 16:33:17 thow: well. a person in agriculture means a building where he can put his animals in when he says stable. my father will probably mean how much weight he can put on it. Mar 13 16:33:21 :D Mar 13 16:33:37 * myself eyerolls and switches windows Mar 13 16:33:44 (p.s. I love you guys.) Mar 13 16:33:50 so when you use the term "everybody" for elaborating, you will probably have to elaborate on "everybody" first Mar 13 16:33:57 during last week I've been trying to install gstream1.2 ... to no avail Mar 13 16:34:02 gstreamer, sorry Mar 13 16:34:21 ok, so "stable" means for you that you can install gestreamer, or what? Mar 13 16:34:21 the debian images are in development Mar 13 16:34:25 and I've just see there's a debian image for beaglebone Mar 13 16:34:28 vagrantc: THANKS! Mar 13 16:34:34 * vagrantc nods Mar 13 16:34:35 :) Mar 13 16:34:48 then, i'll better stay in angstrom Mar 13 16:34:49 but we'd love to hear feedback on them Mar 13 16:36:26 i'm just being so picky because all those people asking for "stable" can not even *remotely* describe what they mean or want Mar 13 16:37:13 * vagrantc nods Mar 13 16:37:56 not my case :) i've been coding for more than 30 years. i think i have some skills about code madurity and stability. Mar 13 16:38:26 thow: so you are the one that finally can enlighten use and specify "stable" in one or two sentences? Mar 13 16:38:48 * thow seeks in his pockets... Mar 13 16:38:50 no, it's not here... Mar 13 16:38:55 that would be soo fantastic! go ahead! (and no, this is neither ironic nor sarcastic) Mar 13 16:38:59 where the hell is it? Mar 13 16:38:59 stable could mean any number of things, including "doesn't crash all the time" or "doesn't change all the time" Mar 13 16:39:18 the two are both stable, and not mutually exclusive Mar 13 16:39:26 come on, stability has nothing to do with change Mar 13 16:39:38 *sigh* Mar 13 16:39:55 uh. Mar 13 16:39:59 so again no valuable definition of stable. Mar 13 16:40:21 i had high hopes after you said you have the skills after 30years Mar 13 16:40:58 windows 8 is reported as stable and they release updates more often than latest beaglebone testing code! :D Mar 13 16:41:07 the debian images don't crash *all* the time, but there are some known and likely unknown issues with them. they are changing on a regular basis ... they're in development. Mar 13 16:41:10 the way i see it, stability and "change" are not related Mar 13 16:41:14 ... you're evading the question. Mar 13 16:41:33 please describe in a concise sentence what you want from us when you ask for "stable" Mar 13 16:41:47 usable in a fair condition. Mar 13 16:41:49 more or less. Mar 13 16:41:49 xD Mar 13 16:42:09 still evading. what is "fair condition", and what is "more or less" Mar 13 16:42:21 man, if you don't know the meaning of english, get a dictionary! :D Mar 13 16:42:38 why should i? Mar 13 16:42:42 do you need me to describe usable as well? Mar 13 16:43:04 what's next? to describe what's a cpu? Mar 13 16:43:05 i'm not asking for anything. you asked for something, but you cannot even tell us what it is you would like. Mar 13 16:44:04 thow: well to me it is usable if it has a functional network connection and a serial login console. are you willing to agree upon that definition of "usable"= Mar 13 16:44:33 * vagrantc wonders if this is a "people are wrong on the internet" debate Mar 13 16:44:44 mr vagrantc understood it perfectly and he/she replied concisely with no need to explain common terms. Mar 13 16:44:47 :) Mar 13 16:44:59 vagrantc: not at all, i'm really interested in understanding what all those people mean by "stable" Mar 13 16:45:10 * thow hands a collins dictionary to LetoThe2nd Mar 13 16:45:18 feel free to search Mar 13 16:45:20 because if we use the above given definition of "usable" Mar 13 16:45:27 do you need me to describe "search"? Mar 13 16:45:28 thow: i both understood and think you haven't actually usefully described anything, it was mostly a shot in the dark, as far as i'm concerned :P Mar 13 16:45:29 xD Mar 13 16:46:07 and extend that with "fari condition" as "it will do that for extended periods of time without needing a reboot", then the debian release is rock stable Mar 13 16:46:29 i asked if the blackbone debian image is stable enough to be used or if angstrom prevails as the most stable image. i don't think is so difficult to understand Mar 13 16:46:41 if on the other hand, you define usable as "will hapily install gstreamer", then i don't know the answer Mar 13 16:46:47 *sigh* Mar 13 16:46:52 "to be used" Mar 13 16:47:02 for god's sake, then describe your use case. Mar 13 16:47:12 you're just evading and evading and evading Mar 13 16:47:23 well, i got the answer to my question Mar 13 16:47:23 * vagrantc moves on Mar 13 16:47:33 thank you for your entertainment show! Mar 13 16:47:36 c u! :* Mar 13 16:48:54 wonders how an answer could have been given to a no-question, but hey... another satisfied customer. NEXT! Mar 13 16:49:18 * LetoThe2nd is always happy to help :) Mar 13 16:50:56 hi Mar 13 16:51:21 any body...plaese help Mar 13 16:51:25 i am abegner Mar 13 16:51:42 state you case of emergency, and wait for rescue :) Mar 13 16:52:33 if i buy a beagle board how i can play audio? Mar 13 16:53:31 by using a player software, if you choose a beagle board type that has an audio output? Mar 13 16:54:02 but beagle bone black has no audio output Mar 13 16:54:14 it can do audio over HDMI Mar 13 16:54:16 well then it won't play audio without additional hardware. Mar 13 16:54:26 ok Mar 13 16:54:28 tbr: you're right, agreed. Mar 13 16:55:15 i read somewhere that...some usb dongle is available? Mar 13 16:55:24 for audio? Mar 13 16:55:51 there is a variety of available hardware. Mar 13 16:56:16 Shijo: please keep the discussion IN THE CHANNEL Mar 13 16:56:18 thanks. Mar 13 16:56:59 which harrdware? Mar 13 16:57:51 there are capes that provide audio output, there are hdmi screens that will output audio, there are usb dongle. you can pick whatever you like. Mar 13 16:58:26 if i pick usb dongle...we need to install driver for that...? Mar 13 16:58:29 for the usb dongles, whatever works on your standard linux desktop should also work on the BBB Mar 13 16:58:57 is it costlly? Mar 13 16:59:04 how should i know? Mar 13 16:59:28 i have no idea where you can buy, what the choices are, and how you define "costly" Mar 13 16:59:50 ok Mar 13 17:01:13 * LetoThe2nd has had enough super-precise questions for today. *leaves* Mar 13 17:03:32 Ive got a question guys. I installed archlinux and made sure to have the cdc_ether module loaded and set it to use a static ip that I would always know. I went ahead and connected it to my computer gave it the ip i assigned and am able to ping it but I can not ssh into it. What would cause ssh not to work in this instance when I can ssh fine through the ethernet connection Mar 13 17:04:50 mistawright: ssh fails how? Mar 13 17:06:33 says the connection is refused Mar 13 17:07:34 hmm Mar 13 17:07:44 can you log in over eth and check the logs? Mar 13 17:07:55 I know there have been some ssh issues in the past Mar 13 17:08:14 https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+ssh+connection+refused Mar 13 17:08:41 yeah i figured thats what I was going to have to do. give me a second. I'll need to move it to another area in the office. Mar 13 17:12:20 /nick Mar 13 17:14:08 /nack Mar 13 17:15:02 /nuck Mar 13 17:27:11 /nock Mar 13 17:51:46 are 2-month-long backorders common for the BBB? Mar 13 17:52:51 yes Mar 13 17:52:55 right now they are Mar 13 17:53:03 its popular Mar 13 17:53:08 sold out all the time Mar 13 18:10:32 I sometimes wonder about the specs and the name of the next BB.... Mar 13 18:10:43 BB Red? Yellow? Green? Purple? Mar 13 18:11:59 beaglebrown Mar 13 18:12:16 beaglebear Mar 13 18:12:18 that wouldn't work... it would become BBB Mar 13 18:13:21 beast Mar 13 18:19:06 here's hoping I'll be able to order one before I'm six feet under Mar 13 18:19:45 well, you order today and get in the queue... Mar 13 18:20:16 I'm looking at adafruit and I don't see a pre-order button, guess I could try another site Mar 13 18:20:49 some have preorder, some dont Mar 13 18:21:23 PurpleDog: for preordering, try rs or mouser Mar 13 18:21:37 thanks dwery Mar 13 18:21:45 for some quick action, adafruit it's ok. they'll send you an email and you get one shot only Mar 13 18:22:19 might be safer if I try to preorder, with my luck I'll be at work when they restock and they'll be sold out when I get home Mar 13 18:22:59 whats the deal with the beagle shortage Mar 13 18:23:11 dont they realize that people are buying rpis if there arent any beagles Mar 13 18:23:17 they do Mar 13 18:23:24 they are making them as fast as they can Mar 13 18:23:27 maxed out production Mar 13 18:23:33 issue is that a lot of companies are buying them in bulk Mar 13 18:23:39 to use in products Mar 13 18:23:42 REALLY?! Mar 13 18:23:46 YES!!1! Mar 13 18:23:49 that's not very kosher Mar 13 18:24:04 a lot of distris are violating agreements Mar 13 18:24:07 oh well, they get what they deserve, and their customers too Mar 13 18:24:07 and selling in bulk Mar 13 18:24:19 Also, there is no shortage. There are just none sitting in stock--as distributors buy them, their customer base (who all have backorders) buy them up. Mar 13 18:24:28 If you want one, just get on a backorder list somewhere. Mar 13 18:24:52 avnet has theirs priced at $65 Mar 13 18:26:38 conrad cancelled my order today because they can't bill me later than 30 days since they got my credit card info on my first order Mar 13 18:26:59 i hope i dont end up back on the bottom of their list after renewing the order :S Mar 13 18:31:42 every time i went to conrad they found a way to upset me Mar 13 18:32:19 there's a reason they're known as "Unrat" or "Hamwanich" Mar 13 18:34:29 im not from germany i dont really know which store to trust here :D Mar 13 18:35:03 there beagle site listed conrad exp and watterott as dealers Mar 13 18:35:13 and only conrad had an ETA on the beagle so i went with them Mar 13 18:35:18 there's always the black market on ebay Mar 13 18:35:26 yeah i saw one for 200 euros Mar 13 18:35:32 and theres another for 999 Mar 13 18:35:32 :D Mar 13 18:36:09 uhm.. I should seel mine :D Mar 13 18:36:11 sell Mar 13 18:36:14 * tbr ordered his from watterott, while they were still in stock Mar 13 18:37:34 dwery do you ship in germany? :D Mar 13 18:37:41 absolutely! Mar 13 18:37:49 ok how about Mar 13 18:37:58 a kidney? would that cover it? Mar 13 18:38:18 I yet have to check the stock market for today Mar 13 18:44:22 howdy - writing a DMA kernel driver (Beagle Bone Black) and need to send data in buffer out to a host PC over Ethernet, anyone know if I can just shoot out the data from kernel allocated memory to a host PC using TCP socket (connected by Ethernet) Mar 13 18:45:23 theqlabs: interesting. I'd sujjest to give alook to the eth driver source code... I'm not sure this has been tried before on the bbb Mar 13 18:46:52 dwery: thanks man, i know that the network subsystem on the black also has a buffer … perhaps easier to do from here Mar 13 18:47:52 white kind of data are you handling? Mar 13 18:48:04 * dwery hates the keyboard Mar 13 18:51:15 Data is coming from an ADC via DMA to buffer in kernel memory ATM Mar 13 18:51:28 theqlabs: custom cape? Mar 13 18:51:35 yeah. Mar 13 18:51:48 schematics available? Mar 13 18:52:25 well not sure its important for this question Mar 13 18:52:34 I'm a curious one :D Mar 13 18:53:25 building a general purpose scan controller, currently being used for doing EBIC on an SEM Mar 13 18:53:30 we will eventually open source it Mar 13 18:53:43 when it's not embarrassing and complete Mar 13 18:53:54 eheh.. that's very nice of you Mar 13 18:54:19 I whish I had a SEM nearby Mar 13 18:54:29 Check Universities Mar 13 18:54:37 usually charge an hourly fee Mar 13 18:55:02 I'm in Italy, I'm not sure how many of them would allow that :D Mar 13 18:55:47 not without a bribe Mar 13 18:56:11 that could work...... Mar 13 18:56:25 if they had one :D Mar 13 19:01:37 theqlabs: I gave a quick look to the net driver, it should be possible Mar 13 19:02:00 how would I use the net driver in this way? Mar 13 19:02:17 shooting data out to net driver then out via TCP socket? Mar 13 19:02:33 it would require a lot of modifications I think, unless there's some interface for such thing.. it might very well be one that I'm not aware of Mar 13 19:02:47 yeah, doesn't seem worth it ATM Mar 13 19:03:34 are you getthing nay limit right now? Mar 13 19:04:06 throughput? Mar 13 19:04:09 yes Mar 13 19:04:13 or cpu load Mar 13 19:04:28 no, i mostly am thinking about it before i wrote that part. Mar 13 19:04:33 not sure what the best way to write it is Mar 13 19:04:46 a faster option would be to write raw frames Mar 13 19:05:17