**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 20 02:59:59 2014 Mar 20 04:29:11 anybody out there? Mar 20 05:46:00 <_av500_> yes Mar 20 07:42:04 hello Mar 20 07:42:38 hiiiii Mar 20 07:42:43 hii Mar 20 07:42:53 i just got beaglebone yesterday Mar 20 07:43:01 and i am having lots of troubles to get started Mar 20 07:43:40 anyone there ? Mar 20 07:43:49 yes Mar 20 07:43:58 so i have ubuntu Mar 20 07:44:02 on my laptop Mar 20 07:44:08 tried to do it didn't work Mar 20 07:44:15 what didnt work? Mar 20 07:44:20 so i switched to windows ( i have dual boot ) Mar 20 07:44:23 i mean Mar 20 07:44:30 bbb wouldn't start Mar 20 07:44:36 i tried 1000 different things Mar 20 07:44:40 and it wouldn't start Mar 20 07:45:01 LEDs not blinking? Mar 20 07:45:07 then i went to windows and installed the drivers and still didn't start so i thought maybe i have to install angstrom Mar 20 07:45:10 on a mirco sd Mar 20 07:45:17 did that and still didn't start ? Mar 20 07:45:29 it's blinking normal like it should be Mar 20 07:45:42 so, what does not start? Mar 20 07:45:44 but when i go to http:192.168.7.2 Mar 20 07:45:48 can't connect Mar 20 07:45:50 and ssh Mar 20 07:45:59 doesn't work also from ubuntu Mar 20 07:46:03 ic Mar 20 07:46:05 i mean i can Mar 20 07:46:17 i can't connect to beaglebone black :( Mar 20 07:46:22 ah Mar 20 07:46:52 Guest15594, i guess that you put micro sd card already Mar 20 07:46:59 yes Mar 20 07:47:09 i think the problem might be with the ip address Mar 20 07:47:13 192.168.7.2 Mar 20 07:47:14 you should remove it first Mar 20 07:47:23 maybe it's not that anymore ? Mar 20 07:47:28 for some reason Mar 20 07:47:29 when the beagle starts, do you see anything in "dmesg" on ubuntu? Mar 20 07:47:41 no Mar 20 07:47:46 i am on windows at the moment Mar 20 07:48:08 easier to debug in ubuntu Mar 20 07:48:12 Guest15594, i got bbb just few days ago, and i put an sdcard in it Mar 20 07:48:21 then i can boot Mar 20 07:48:26 *cannot Mar 20 07:48:32 ohhhh Mar 20 07:48:37 :( Mar 20 07:48:43 the problem now is that at first Mar 20 07:48:50 it was blinking without the mircosd Mar 20 07:48:51 i think it's boot order problem Mar 20 07:48:58 but when i installed angstrom on them mircosd Mar 20 07:49:08 then it wouldn't blink without the microsd ? Mar 20 07:49:15 you dont need the microsd Mar 20 07:49:22 it comes with angstrom out of the box Mar 20 07:49:26 ok Mar 20 07:49:27 bbb has 2gb flash memory Mar 20 07:49:31 remove everything and unplug and plug usb again Mar 20 07:49:36 so i wok Mar 20 07:49:40 ok * Mar 20 07:49:44 and then observe dmesg in ubuntu Mar 20 07:49:50 you should see something happening Mar 20 07:50:26 i will do that Mar 20 07:50:34 but i have a question Mar 20 07:50:38 can you figure out Mar 20 07:50:41 what is the ip Mar 20 07:50:44 of the beaglebone Mar 20 07:50:45 ? Mar 20 07:51:02 like how are u sure that it's 192.168.7.2 Mar 20 07:51:09 via usb port, ip addr of bbb always .7.2 Mar 20 07:51:22 how can u see that Mar 20 07:51:23 ? Mar 20 07:51:26 you cant Mar 20 07:51:29 unless you log in Mar 20 07:51:35 through usb, ethernet or serial Mar 20 07:51:36 mmm Mar 20 07:51:44 how can I get a customized beaglebone blk? like without ethernet jack, but with wifi Mar 20 07:51:51 maybe the BBB should morce blink the IP :) Mar 20 07:52:00 scorpius__: talk to circuitco Mar 20 07:52:03 or make your own Mar 20 07:52:08 desing files are open Mar 20 07:52:25 you can take them, edit them and give to an EDM to produce it Mar 20 07:52:56 hey av500 Mar 20 07:53:01 can i contact u Mar 20 07:53:05 ? Mar 20 07:53:08 skype ? Mar 20 07:53:10 ? Mar 20 07:53:12 show u the Mar 20 07:53:15 "EDM"? (sorry, noob here) Mar 20 07:53:16 screen Mar 20 07:53:16 you are in contact with me right now Mar 20 07:53:21 no? Mar 20 07:53:28 mmm Mar 20 07:53:48 ok so i will restart to ubuntu right now Mar 20 07:53:52 so what shouldi do Mar 20 07:53:55 my mama told me not to skype Mar 20 07:53:56 when i am on ubuntu Mar 20 07:54:00 lol Mar 20 07:54:02 run dmesh Mar 20 07:54:02 :) Mar 20 07:54:04 dmesg Mar 20 07:54:07 then Mar 20 07:54:09 then start the BBB Mar 20 07:54:12 run dmesg again Mar 20 07:54:13 how Mar 20 07:54:14 ? Mar 20 07:54:18 type "dmesg" Mar 20 07:54:19 ENTER Mar 20 07:54:20 has anyone used a BBB to built something like a smartphone? Mar 20 07:54:23 then Mar 20 07:54:28 https://www.google.com/search?q=dmesg Mar 20 07:54:30 scorpius__: no Mar 20 07:54:32 wrong CPU Mar 20 07:54:37 wrong use case Mar 20 07:54:46 so Mar 20 07:54:47 i will run Mar 20 07:54:53 dmesg in the terminal Mar 20 07:54:56 then what ? Mar 20 07:55:04 btw, you can do IRC in ubuntu too Mar 20 07:55:06 then read :) Mar 20 07:55:09 what would be required to use a bbb to build a smartphone? Mar 20 07:55:11 hahaha Mar 20 07:55:12 ok Mar 20 07:55:15 i will do that Mar 20 07:55:16 thanks alot Mar 20 07:55:18 scorpius__: the phone part Mar 20 07:55:27 and the battery part Mar 20 07:55:40 is the phone part difficult? Mar 20 07:55:59 yes Mar 20 07:56:04 why? Mar 20 07:56:11 you need to certify it Mar 20 07:56:20 why? Mar 20 07:56:21 you need to adhere to many international standards Mar 20 07:56:28 because it's a requirement Mar 20 07:56:50 in most countries it will be either an offence or a crime to operate an uncertified radio device Mar 20 07:57:02 buy the (LTE) modules that are certified Mar 20 07:57:07 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_can_telephone Mar 20 07:57:14 scorpius__: LTE does not do voice Mar 20 07:57:20 in many countries Mar 20 07:57:44 but yes Mar 20 07:57:50 you can buy a 3g/lte module Mar 20 07:58:01 hopefully one that supports voice, not all do Mar 20 07:58:04 then you write a RIL for it Mar 20 07:58:06 or adapt one Mar 20 07:58:11 then you pick your smartphone OS Mar 20 07:58:16 RIL? Mar 20 07:58:18 adapt it Mar 20 07:58:19 etc.. Mar 20 07:58:24 Radio Interface Layer Mar 20 07:58:37 or use ofono which is the same thing under different name Mar 20 07:58:40 LTE only, even without voice would be ok for me Mar 20 07:58:45 you do the same work that Samsung and HTC and Apple do Mar 20 07:59:04 well, then buy a 3G USB Stick Mar 20 07:59:05 then all you need is a modem, and it won't be a smart_phone* Mar 20 07:59:07 plug it in Mar 20 07:59:17 or get a MiFi Mar 20 07:59:42 I see, just an usb stick Mar 20 07:59:45 good Mar 20 07:59:59 so, you are down to connecing a 3G stick to a PC Mar 20 08:00:15 thats good Mar 20 08:00:48 as display, I would actually want a replacement screen of a galaxy note2 Mar 20 08:01:34 you have humble demands :) Mar 20 08:01:35 * KotH wonders what scorpius__ is trying to build Mar 20 08:01:43 a smart phone Mar 20 08:01:57 without the phone part, it seems Mar 20 08:02:04 if possible, tow of these displays Mar 20 08:02:09 ah Mar 20 08:02:14 tow > two Mar 20 08:02:14 one would be boring :) Mar 20 08:02:20 exactly Mar 20 08:02:34 a 3D virtual reality smart phone Mar 20 08:02:35 (see yota phone, also has 2 displays) Mar 20 08:02:37 for $45 Mar 20 08:02:45 nice school project. Mar 20 08:02:57 hello Mar 20 08:03:00 but, what to do in the afternoon Mar 20 08:03:05 how could I connect 2 displays to bbb? Mar 20 08:03:07 hi av500 Mar 20 08:03:14 i switched to ubuntu Mar 20 08:03:14 now Mar 20 08:03:19 and run dmesg Mar 20 08:03:32 what to look for now ? Mar 20 08:03:33 scorpius__: you make a little FPGA in between Mar 20 08:03:41 kabary: pastebin.com Mar 20 08:03:47 ok Mar 20 08:03:51 put the output of dmesg there Mar 20 08:04:06 scorpius__: what is your skill level? Mar 20 08:04:32 skill level: 0 (zero) Mar 20 08:04:39 ah Mar 20 08:05:11 sounds like a well-though plan then. Mar 20 08:06:24 ok, skills maybe not 0, but no equipment Mar 20 08:06:51 doesn't make it better... Mar 20 08:07:36 if I would be living in the sf bay area I could go somewhere, but now living in the middle of nowhere Mar 20 08:07:58 I would start with connecting one display Mar 20 08:08:18 yes, how? Mar 20 08:08:19 and there are many ways to talk to a display Mar 20 08:08:31 scorpius__: may I kindly ask you to google that Mar 20 08:08:38 since you are not the first one Mar 20 08:08:43 display solutions for BBB exist Mar 20 08:10:58 http://pastebin.com/1kvRBPBW Mar 20 08:11:53 this was the result of the command dmesg Mar 20 08:11:59 Mar 20 08:12:19 after you plugged the BBB? Mar 20 08:12:20 why is the hdmi (proprietary, royalty) and not displayport on the bbb? Mar 20 08:12:25 yes Mar 20 08:12:26 sir Mar 20 08:12:51 scorpius__: because it's dvi Mar 20 08:12:53 I see nothing Mar 20 08:13:04 does this usb cable work with anything? Mar 20 08:13:12 the bbb Mar 20 08:13:15 is blinking Mar 20 08:13:15 !! Mar 20 08:13:15 i see. why is there dvi and not displayport on the bbb? Mar 20 08:13:51 scorpius__: there's all them lcd pins on the headers, so nothing is keeping you from adding displayport if you desire. Mar 20 08:14:08 kabary_: the BBB blinks when it has power Mar 20 08:14:13 that does not mean your cable is good Mar 20 08:14:17 mmm Mar 20 08:14:21 it means 2 of the 4 wires are OK Mar 20 08:14:23 scorpius__: and: i have lots of hdmi/dvi monitors here, and literally no display port one. so why displayport instead of hdmi? Mar 20 08:14:28 +1 Mar 20 08:14:33 scorpius__: why is there no nuclear reactor on the bbb? it could power itself, and the rest of the city too! Mar 20 08:14:33 newfangled stuff Mar 20 08:14:42 people complain it has not VGA Mar 20 08:14:52 * tbr has lots of DP→DVI adapters for exactly that reason Mar 20 08:15:00 people complain it has not composite! Mar 20 08:15:10 people complain Mar 20 08:15:10 cos DP is the best Mar 20 08:15:11 period Mar 20 08:15:19 scorpius__: buy an ibook Mar 20 08:15:37 scorpius__: my calculators fail to do cos(DP), sorry. Mar 20 08:17:02 beside: VHDL is the bestest! Mar 20 08:17:40 again, what is an EDM? Mar 20 08:18:11 scorpius__: what is a "google"? Mar 20 08:18:52 did google it, but not helpful Mar 20 08:19:08 scorpius__: an manufacturing house Mar 20 08:19:13 somebody to build your PCB Mar 20 08:19:15 then you also need to work on your google skillz Mar 20 08:19:25 example: http://www.yellowpages.com.au/nsw/huntingwood/electronic-design-manufacturing-edm-13142684-listing.html Mar 20 08:20:01 as said, you can ask CCO to make you a modified BBB Mar 20 08:20:09 or your can take the design elsewhere Mar 20 08:20:17 since its "open hardware" Mar 20 08:20:26 but dont expect it to be cheap for a single unit Mar 20 08:20:36 of phytec, or embest, or literally any company that has a kind of capable EDM team Mar 20 08:21:00 variscite, ronetix, svtronics,... Mar 20 08:21:12 and half of the pearl river delta Mar 20 08:21:37 i am losing Mar 20 08:21:39 hope now Mar 20 08:21:50 dont lose hope, make sure the cable is OK Mar 20 08:21:59 i am pretty sure there is no problem Mar 20 08:22:04 with the cable Mar 20 08:22:09 does it work with another device? Mar 20 08:22:11 becasue it's giving thre right Mar 20 08:22:18 blinking sequence !! Mar 20 08:22:24 you dont listen Mar 20 08:22:28 sorry Mar 20 08:22:32 but i don't have another device Mar 20 08:22:33 the cable provides power Mar 20 08:22:34 we know that Mar 20 08:22:40 but it can still be broken Mar 20 08:22:46 it has more than 2 wires inside Mar 20 08:22:58 and both ubuntu and windows show nothing Mar 20 08:23:07 so either cable or connector are bad Mar 20 08:23:14 connector ? Mar 20 08:23:16 so dont lose hope, debug it Mar 20 08:23:25 hi Mar 20 08:23:26 yes, usb cables are plugged into connectors Mar 20 08:23:31 mm Mar 20 08:23:33 ok Mar 20 08:24:39 kabary_: cant you plug the BBB into your router? Mar 20 08:24:43 ethernet cable? Mar 20 08:24:51 av500: Ich bewundere deine Geduld Mar 20 08:24:52 yes Mar 20 08:24:52 ? Mar 20 08:25:25 i can plug it into my router then ? Mar 20 08:25:28 Andy1978: da bist du nicht der einzige Mar 20 08:25:44 +1 Mar 20 08:26:21 hey Mar 20 08:26:22 aver Mar 20 08:26:25 avr500 Mar 20 08:27:08 any one knows how to start the bbb over ethernet ? Mar 20 08:27:42 you dont start it over othernet Mar 20 08:27:46 you plug in ethernet Mar 20 08:27:55 of course you still need a power supply Mar 20 08:28:08 https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+ethernet Mar 20 08:28:12 see, you are not the first Mar 20 08:30:42 ok, back to "please google it mode" Mar 20 08:33:29 * KotH hands av500 a piece of chocolate Mar 20 08:36:46 Schnapspralinen Mar 20 08:37:00 s/pralinen//g Mar 20 08:44:21 i did lot of research Mar 20 08:44:29 on the ethernet thing Mar 20 08:44:35 but still can't figure it out Mar 20 08:44:46 you plug in: Mar 20 08:44:50 1) usb to power it Mar 20 08:44:53 yes Mar 20 08:44:55 2) ethernet into your router Mar 20 08:45:08 yes Mar 20 08:45:11 3) your PC into the same router Mar 20 08:45:20 BBB gets IP from your router Mar 20 08:45:24 (hopefully) Mar 20 08:45:53 depending on your router, you can even see the IP in the web interface Mar 20 08:46:13 do the ETH leds blink? Mar 20 08:46:36 yes Mar 20 08:46:41 good Mar 20 08:46:42 the eth leds blink Mar 20 08:55:09 kabary_: open your router webinterface and see if you can see the IP from your BBB Mar 20 09:51:06 hi Mar 20 09:51:08 opncv on beaglebone black???? Mar 20 09:51:21 ¿¿¿¿ Mar 20 09:51:30 vikas: complete sentences in you? Mar 20 09:52:33 how to install opencv on beagleebone black Mar 20 09:52:34 ?? Mar 20 09:52:58 the same way everyone else does it Mar 20 09:52:59 https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+black+opencv Mar 20 09:53:06 probably by using the package manager of the distribution you're using Mar 20 09:53:32 are there any opencv gsocs? Mar 20 09:54:22 KotH: it's one of the default things that students seem to think would be cool, every, consecutive, year. Mar 20 09:54:40 both inside and outside of the gsoc context Mar 20 09:55:03 yeah everybody seems to love opencv Mar 20 09:55:16 a shame that all cool stuff has been done already Mar 20 09:55:44 like, an open sgx driver Mar 20 09:55:52 and full mesa on arm. Mar 20 09:57:03 vikas, check out Derek Molloys videos on youtube Mar 20 09:57:05 that would be cool to have, but it's a PITA to do Mar 20 09:57:22 i think have in a full opengl context (however slow and implemented in software) would really be interesting and handy for some things Mar 20 09:57:47 SW opengl on arm? Mar 20 09:57:57 does not exist? Mar 20 09:58:10 av500: reminds of the XF86 3.3.6 days, doesnt it? :) Mar 20 09:58:27 av500: none that i knew of, but love to be wrong. Mar 20 10:00:18 when you compile android without sgx, you have it in SW Mar 20 10:00:21 no? Mar 20 10:01:14 no idea about android. Mar 20 10:04:13 android is not linux!!! Mar 20 10:04:28 av500, sure, mesa just works, i could always run glxgears on arm (despite being slow) Mar 20 10:04:54 ok Mar 20 10:05:00 LetoThe2nd: there, use mesa Mar 20 10:05:02 and bring time Mar 20 10:05:12 maybe linaro can speed up mesa? Mar 20 10:05:32 yeah with PBT Mar 20 10:05:35 lol Mar 20 10:08:56 zu vikas fällt mir nur http://ruthe.de/index.php?pic=2635 ein Mar 20 10:54:50 hi Mar 20 10:55:59 hi Mar 20 10:56:16 how can i make audio char Mar 20 10:56:18 chat Mar 20 10:59:40 hello Mar 20 10:59:55 hello Mar 20 11:13:19 You guys didn't answer that ethernet question up there? Mar 20 11:13:51 You do know that the latest debian image has eth0 commented out, hmm? Mar 20 11:33:52 BobCat: he was on angstrom Mar 20 11:34:20 ah Mar 20 11:34:31 Still, now you know :) Mar 20 11:41:13 BobCat: yes, I didn't. thanks =) Mar 20 11:45:12 BobCat: we didnt asnwer what? Mar 20 13:25:17 I'm using my BBB with the debian image from the official site. The BBB is being used as a monitor, listening to kernel messages from another linux box via serial port (cat /dev/ttyO0) and printing them to a monitor via hdmi. Every so often, the hdmi goes to sleep and i have to press a button on the keyboard to wake it up again. Is there a way to disable this sleep/screen saver feature? Mar 20 13:26:51 sirjorj: have you tried using 'setterm -blank 0'? Mar 20 13:26:58 and 'setterm -powerdown 0'? Mar 20 13:27:42 sirjorj: perhaps http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/752/how-do-i-prevent-the-screen-from-going-blank Mar 20 13:27:59 sirjorj: consoleblank=0 in the kernel commandline Mar 20 13:28:13 I have not. I just ran those commands and will see if they work. Thanks! Mar 20 13:29:00 FWIW, this is in 'tty1' (Ctrl + Alt + F1) Mar 20 13:29:13 Not the normal GUI session Mar 20 14:24:18 ?? Mar 20 14:24:52 can any one guide me in decoding videos through Beagle Bone black? Mar 20 14:28:31 Vivek_: it does NOT have a DSP so it's just regular software decoding Mar 20 14:33:58 Vivek_: it decodes them slowly Mar 20 14:35:42 @tbr, @av500... oh... ? thank you friends Mar 20 14:52:21 hello beagle community Mar 20 15:11:43 Hello everyone. I am now have trouble with using the vnc to connect with Beaglebone. Can anyone help me? Mar 20 15:11:51 I will appreciate with it. Mar 20 15:15:54 manon: describe what you've done so far and waht your problem is Mar 20 15:15:57 what Mar 20 15:23:32 what distro manjo ? Mar 20 15:23:38 manon Mar 20 15:25:16 he left laread< Mar 20 15:25:19 BobCat, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21804913/kivy-the-module-raised-an-important-error-couldnt-find-matching-glx-visual/22172771?noredirect=1#22172771 Mar 20 15:25:20 he left already Mar 20 15:30:03 manjo - that was the answer I was going to give! Mar 20 15:30:04 ha Mar 20 15:32:56 by the way, here is the /etc/network/interfaces from the latest bbb debian image http://pastebin.com/A80Xepza Mar 20 15:33:11 I do not understand why eth0 is commented out Mar 20 15:33:37 no idea Mar 20 15:33:39 jkridner: ^^^^ Mar 20 15:33:51 a noob will never figure that out Mar 20 15:34:19 debian is still work in progress Mar 20 15:34:33 BobCat: perhaps wicd is used. Mar 20 15:36:14 I don't use the gui or hdmi, so eth0 was dead until I fixed that Mar 20 15:38:05 yeah, eth0 should autoconnect Mar 20 15:39:09 BobCat, yeah I asked that Q on stackoverflow and answered it myself :) Mar 20 15:40:22 stackoverflow should give bonus points for self answers Mar 20 15:40:57 I have had an account there since the first day and never used it Mar 20 16:27:54 Hello, I was wondering if someone could tell me if the SD/MMC Connector on the BeagleBoard is a 'standard SD card reader.' For example, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G15X4465 this SDHC card specifies "Compatible — with SDHC & SDXC host devices; not compatible with standard SD-enabled devices/readers." Would this card work with the BeagleBoard? Mar 20 16:28:41 There are several other cards that give similar statements and I need to know if the SD card I buy is going to work with my board. Mar 20 16:29:26 huh Mar 20 16:29:43 PaulR_: i am not sure i understand your question, but if you are asking if the beaglebone black uses a standard microSD card, then yes it does Mar 20 16:30:17 it's just standard SDIO and physically it's an microSD slot. Mar 20 16:30:32 I'm asking about the standard BeagleBoard, not the BeagleBone Black. Mar 20 16:32:49 PaulR_: standard beagleboard is a standard SD card Mar 20 16:33:35 so if the vendor gives a statement like the one I gave above then I can't use that card? Mar 20 16:34:19 to me that statement doesn't make sense Mar 20 16:34:48 unless it's just about >32GB cards Mar 20 16:35:09 which is nothing about the card, but how it's formatted Mar 20 16:35:20 PaulR_: in general any standard SD card will work Mar 20 16:37:21