**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 02 02:59:59 2014
Apr 02 03:32:53 * nyt- yawns
Apr 02 03:32:56 <nyt-> hi
Apr 02 03:38:58 <jenxin> Just installed LXDE on the BBB w/ Ubuntu 13.04
Apr 02 03:39:30 <jenxin> I notice that the colors are inverted.. is there a way to fix this?
Apr 02 03:39:55 <jenxin> Or maybe, would xfce be a better choice on 13.04?
Apr 02 03:43:01 <nyt-> inverted colors doesn't sound much like an issue with the window manager
Apr 02 03:43:18 <nyt-> what are you using for display
Apr 02 03:45:18 <jenxin> I've tried it with two different monitors It's going through the HDMI mini port.
Apr 02 03:45:45 <nyt-> your mini to hdmi adapter working properly verified elsehwere?
Apr 02 03:46:02 <nyt-> if you ctrl-alt-f1 what color is the text console
Apr 02 03:46:08 <jenxin> Black/white.
Apr 02 03:46:15 <nyt-> as normal?
Apr 02 03:46:23 <nyt-> black bg?
Apr 02 03:46:28 <jenxin> Yep
Apr 02 03:46:33 <nyt-> weird
Apr 02 03:46:38 <jenxin> After I installed LXDE; the screen is offsetted just a little bit.
Apr 02 03:46:48 <jenxin> Shifted down maybe 1 line.
Apr 02 03:46:55 <nyt-> it has stuff you can change that
Apr 02 03:46:57 <nyt-> thats weird those
Apr 02 03:47:05 <jenxin> Erm, not even 1 line, probably as much as this: ____
Apr 02 03:47:30 <nyt-> how did you install lxde?
Apr 02 03:47:46 <nyt-> you sure you didn't install the version for those with visual impairments?
Apr 02 03:47:49 <nyt-> or some shit
Apr 02 03:47:59 <jenxin> sudo apt-get -y install lxde lxde-core lxde-icon-theme
Apr 02 03:48:02 <jenxin> No lol
Apr 02 03:48:25 <nyt-> have you gone through the preferences? they have a bunch of adjustments in there
Apr 02 03:48:25 <jenxin> It also flickers sometime.
Apr 02 03:48:36 <nyt-> that sounds like a cable or adapter issue
Apr 02 03:49:20 <jenxin> I've got another adapter.. lemme check really quick.
Apr 02 03:51:45 <jenxin> Nope, same issue.
Apr 02 03:51:51 <jenxin> It's not the adapter/cables.
Apr 02 03:52:09 <nyt-> you have anything plugged into p8?
Apr 02 03:52:55 <jenxin> Nope.
Apr 02 03:53:06 <nyt-> got me, install gnome if you have the space
Apr 02 03:53:36 <jenxin> Just wondering if you guys experienced this issue before.
Apr 02 03:54:02 <jenxin> Its possible I got sent a bad BBB also after my first one fried.
Apr 02 03:59:54 <m_billybob> jenxin, ive seen meention of it on the beagleboard forums
Apr 02 04:00:06 <m_billybob> so you're not the only one whose had that problem
Apr 02 04:00:19 <jenxin> Ah okay.
Apr 02 04:00:33 <m_billybob> might be a fix on the groups if you look around
Apr 02 04:00:35 <jenxin> I'll give xfce a try.
Apr 02 04:01:29 <jenxin> Hmm sure, I'll take a look.
Apr 02 04:17:23 <zanzacar> Hi i am trying to follow this very simple tutorial but for some reason my LED is lit up already and I haven't ran any code to say pin high or low.
Apr 02 04:17:27 <zanzacar> Now sure what gives.
Apr 02 04:17:30 <zanzacar> http://learn.adafruit.com/blinking-an-led-with-beaglebone-black/wiring
Apr 02 04:19:50 <nyt-> because default gpio pin mode is input
Apr 02 04:19:54 <nyt-> which has some voltage on the pin
Apr 02 04:24:38 <zanzacar> gotcha well I am going to try it again and see how it goes
Apr 02 04:37:29 <zanzacar> I am still not getting anything I want to happen to happen.
Apr 02 04:38:10 <zanzacar> I scrapped the LED and just hooked up a voltmeter.
Apr 02 04:38:25 <zanzacar> I should be able to read the voltage. right now it is 3.13
Apr 02 04:38:42 <zanzacar> if I send it high or low, or setup for out nothing happens.
Apr 02 04:42:22 <zanzacar> maybe it has to the do with the fact that python-smbus failed?
Apr 02 04:42:25 <zanzacar> http://pastebin.com/YveBkNgq
Apr 02 04:42:31 <zanzacar> is anyone else having that same issue?
Apr 02 04:52:39 <zanzacar> apparently I didn't have a internet connection... I guess that could do it
Apr 02 04:53:01 <nyt-> are you running as root?
Apr 02 04:53:05 <nyt-> last i checked gpio required root
Apr 02 04:55:01 <zanzacar> yup that has to be what it was, just tried doing it non-root and sure enough it didn't work
Apr 02 06:05:42 <nyt-> ugh
Apr 02 06:05:49 <nyt-> any fixes for graphics crashes
Apr 02 06:05:51 <nyt-> when running gnome
Apr 02 06:05:57 <nyt-> or moving icons in lxde
Apr 02 06:06:34 <tbr> nyt-: you're running with or without SGX?
Apr 02 06:07:06 <nyt-> default debian sdcard image
Apr 02 06:07:38 <tbr> nyt-: catch logs, file debian or upstream bugs (unless it's kernel, then bring it up on the beagle ML)
Apr 02 06:07:48 <nyt-> what is sgx?
Apr 02 06:08:48 <tbr> the proprietary gpu driver
Apr 02 06:09:23 <zmatt> (also the name of the gpu itself)
Apr 02 06:13:08 <nyt-> well
Apr 02 06:13:09 <nyt-> i think so?
Apr 02 06:13:17 <nyt-> its the latest deb image
Apr 02 06:13:27 <nyt-> no idea
Apr 02 06:13:37 <zmatt> seems unlikely debian would include a non-free driver by default
Apr 02 06:13:42 <nyt-> yeah prob not then
Apr 02 06:13:52 <nyt-> well, it's packaged by beaglebone
Apr 02 06:13:54 <nyt-> its their debian image
Apr 02 06:13:59 <zmatt> ok
Apr 02 06:14:00 <nyt-> wheres info on the sgx drivers
Apr 02 06:15:25 <zmatt> try lsmod ?
Apr 02 06:16:02 <nyt-> no i mean where can i find info about setting it up
Apr 02 06:18:28 <zmatt> no idea, barely had any time to fiddle with my bbb since I got it
Apr 02 06:35:08 <nyt-> yeah so sgx not happening either way
Apr 02 06:35:19 <nyt-> in lxde as soon as i drag an icon the bbb hard freezes
Apr 02 06:35:23 <nyt-> and in gnome, as soon as mouse moves, its game over
Apr 02 06:35:56 <zmatt> maybe the mouse has been deprecated.  try keyboard?  ;-)
Apr 02 06:36:01 <nyt-> the mouse works fine
Apr 02 06:36:03 <nyt-> its graphics related
Apr 02 06:36:14 <nyt-> like updating the cursor or something causes a crash
Apr 02 06:36:24 <nyt-> no idea as it hard locks and doesn't even output to serial
Apr 02 06:37:42 <zmatt> which reminds me, I should really somehow get the jtag connector on mine soldered on...
Apr 02 07:27:29 <KotH> zmatt: unless you are doing low level kernel debugging, you will not need JTAG
Apr 02 07:27:36 <KotH> zmatt: actually you dont want to touch JTAG
Apr 02 07:29:45 <zmatt> KotH: I currently do baremetal programming on a related SoC
Apr 02 07:29:56 <KotH> oh...
Apr 02 07:30:01 <zmatt> :)
Apr 02 07:30:10 <KotH> the BBB BDSM fraction? ;)
Apr 02 07:30:14 <zmatt> hehehehe
Apr 02 07:33:02 <zmatt> at least I recently got a serial cable, so with a bit of luck I can get my Forth system working without needing JTAG
Apr 02 07:40:07 <zmatt> ok, really need to do some shopping and head to work... afk
Apr 02 07:45:20 <niadh> Hey, I have a 64GB SD card I wish to use as storage on my BBB, I've flashed Arch Linux onto the eMMC card but I'm not having much luck making the full 64GB available, does it have to be FAT16 specifically?
Apr 02 07:46:15 <nyt-> fat16 doesnt support partitions that large
Apr 02 07:46:33 <niadh> Yes, 4GB limit on FAT16, isn't it?
Apr 02 07:47:55 <niadh> What I've done is created a FAT32 partition (I'd prefer EXT) and put the uEnv.txt file on that, but I get an error in dmesg "mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card"
Apr 02 07:48:21 <nyt-> are you wanting to boot from sd or emmc?
Apr 02 07:49:19 <niadh> I have it booting from the eMMC, I wish to use the sd card exclusively for local storage, I read (http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:MicroSD_As_Extra_Storage) that even an SD card for storage has to have a uEnv.txt file.
Apr 02 07:51:36 <nyt-> you might just be better off installing to your sdcard
Apr 02 07:52:33 <niadh> That doesn't enable me to use the beagleboard for the purposes I intended
Apr 02 07:54:38 <nyt-> hows that?
Apr 02 07:55:05 <niadh> I'm trying to store swappable media libraries on the beaglebone black on SD cards
Apr 02 07:55:31 <nyt-> ah
Apr 02 07:55:45 <nyt-> see the link in the topic? might explain the boot process better
Apr 02 07:55:56 <nyt-> make sure primary partition one has the uEnv.txt and the proper info in it
Apr 02 07:58:07 <niadh> The primary partition on the eMMC or on the SD card?
Apr 02 07:58:41 <nyt-> sd card
Apr 02 07:58:54 <nyt-> it will read from that first if sd is inserted at boot
Apr 02 08:00:11 <Slyde> Hi all. I am looking for some help about a particular issue I am facing.
Apr 02 08:00:19 <niadh> Yes, that's what I'd been lead to believe, so have the standard partition layout on the eMMC card a vfat boot partition and an ext root partition, my SD card has one fat32 partition with the uEnv.txt file prepared as my previous link
Apr 02 08:01:54 <Slyde> my issue seems not to be kernel or toolchain version dependent, so I will not detail this.
Apr 02 08:02:43 <Slyde> The issue is that my system is booting normally, I can log through the serial console, but everything freezes after a few minutes
Apr 02 08:02:59 <Slyde> time is variable between 1 and 10 min
Apr 02 08:03:11 <Slyde> and I have no panic or whatever...
Apr 02 08:03:36 <Slyde> I just want to know if someone else is having the same kind of issue...
Apr 02 08:04:03 <Slyde> and can give me suggestions where to search...
Apr 02 08:06:01 <nyt-> Slyde: how are you powering it? what devices plugged in?
Apr 02 08:06:07 <nyt-> niadh: paste partition list
Apr 02 08:07:47 <Slyde> nyt-: I have the same issue with beaglebone black, Ti starter kit and à custom AM3352 board...
Apr 02 08:08:03 <nyt-> <nyt-> Slyde: how are you powering it? what devices plugged in?
Apr 02 08:08:30 <Slyde> nyt-: my board is powered by a tps 65910a same as starter kit
Apr 02 08:09:55 <nyt-> what are you powering the bbb with?  you have any usb plugged in?
Apr 02 08:10:35 <Slyde> nyt-: nothing plugged, no Cape, no usb
Apr 02 08:11:24 <niadh> nyt-: Huh... how about that /etc/fstab is empty...
Apr 02 08:11:32 <Slyde> nyt-:just logged on with the console and set a heartbeat led to monitor the system
Apr 02 08:12:16 <nyt-> niadh: fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
Apr 02 08:12:43 <nyt-> Slyde: most likely power supply issue
Apr 02 08:13:46 <niadh> nyt-: http://pastebin.com/iZu2JHMU
Apr 02 08:14:17 <nyt-> change primary type to e
Apr 02 08:14:21 <nyt-> W95 fat16
Apr 02 08:14:23 <Slyde> nyt-:btw on my custom board the 3.2 kernel from Ti sdk 6 works fine... I have this issue with 3.8 and 3.12 using device tree
Apr 02 08:14:41 <nyt-> Slyde: maybe update to latest debian build from rcn?
Apr 02 08:15:13 <Slyde> nyt-:but my device tree is based on the starter kit and I removed all unnecessary things very minimal
Apr 02 08:15:27 <nyt-> niadh: is that even your sdcard or is that the mmc? paste output for /dev/mmcblk1
Apr 02 08:15:44 <niadh> That's mmcblk0
Apr 02 08:15:56 <niadh> I can't open mmcblk1
Apr 02 08:16:03 <nyt-> is your sd card in there?
Apr 02 08:17:01 <niadh> Not so far as I can tell, there's an error in dmesg that I previously mentioned, said something about error -110
Apr 02 08:17:40 <nyt-> so you boot w/out sd
Apr 02 08:17:41 <nyt-> then insert sd
Apr 02 08:17:43 <nyt-> and get error?
Apr 02 08:18:29 <niadh> No, I ensure the SD card is inserted upon boot (I am lead to believe that it won't be detected post boot) however when I check dmesg I'm told that there was an issue initilising the sd card
Apr 02 08:18:36 <Slyde> nyt-:I will have try and check the supplies. thanks
Apr 02 08:20:15 <c10ud> Slyde, which software are you running on it?
Apr 02 08:20:48 <c10ud> I mean, X, gnome..?
Apr 02 08:58:02 <nyt-> woo
Apr 02 08:58:06 <nyt-> my bbb lib is like halfway done
Apr 02 08:58:18 <nyt-> just need to write the uart/i2c/spio convenience stuff
Apr 02 08:58:41 <av500> ordered parts?
Apr 02 08:59:09 <nyt-> hm? writing a ruby lib for beaglebone
Apr 02 08:59:16 <nyt-> since the current stuff makes me sadface
Apr 02 09:00:20 <nyt-> threaded interrupt driven edge triggers with callbacks
Apr 02 09:00:30 <nyt-> threaded analog input monitoring as well
Apr 02 09:00:31 <nyt-> etc
Apr 02 09:00:32 <nyt-> all the goodies
Apr 02 09:02:53 <nyt-> i'll need to document it and then hopefully get it released soon
Apr 02 09:03:24 <av500> ah
Apr 02 09:04:06 <nyt-> callback = lambda { |pin, mv_last, mv, count| puts "[#{count}] #{pin} #{mv_last} -> #{mv}" }
Apr 02 09:04:06 <nyt-> AIN.run_on_change(callback, :P9_33, 10, 0.1)
Apr 02 09:04:06 <nyt-> loop do sleep 3000 ; end
Apr 02 09:04:11 <nyt-> root@rbone:~/rubybone# chmod 700 test.rb;./test.rb
Apr 02 09:04:12 <nyt-> [0] P9_33 1799 -> 1401
Apr 02 09:04:12 <nyt-> [1] P9_33 1401 -> 1298
Apr 02 09:04:12 <nyt-> [2] P9_33 1298 -> 1335
Apr 02 09:04:12 <nyt-> [3] P9_33 1335 -> 1586
Apr 02 09:04:36 <nyt-> pot hooked up to analog in, turning it around for input, only triggers after 10mv of change, 0.1s monitor interval
Apr 02 09:05:13 <nyt-> similar code with thresholds in there, and similar stuff for gpio edge triggers, etc, along w/ all the basic stuff
Apr 02 09:05:41 <nyt-> gpio, pwm, and ain stuff i think is complete... gonna write uart convenience stuff then sleep
Apr 02 09:05:49 <nyt-> 5am =[
Apr 02 09:19:40 <nyt-> so pins 17-20 can't be used for gpio?
Apr 02 09:19:50 <nyt-> on header 9
Apr 02 09:21:30 <mazzoo> nyt-: y not? in mode7? does one need i2c1 and i2c2?
Apr 02 09:21:39 <nyt-> using 3.8
Apr 02 09:21:42 <nyt-> device trees
Apr 02 09:21:55 <nyt-> can export them in gpio but they dont do anything
Apr 02 09:23:37 <mazzoo> sounds like a bug or useless limitation to me. probably due to i2c1 and i2c2...
Apr 02 09:23:43 <nyt-> yes
Apr 02 09:25:03 <nyt-> pin 86 (44e10958): (MUX UNCLAIMED) (GPIO UNCLAIMED)
Apr 02 09:25:03 <nyt-> pin 87 (44e1095c): (MUX UNCLAIMED) (GPIO UNCLAIMED)
Apr 02 09:25:25 <nyt-> pin 94 (44e10978): 4819c000.i2c (GPIO UNCLAIMED) function pinmux_i2c2_pins group pinmux_i2c2_pins
Apr 02 09:25:25 <nyt-> pin 95 (44e1097c): 4819c000.i2c (GPIO UNCLAIMED) function pinmux_i2c2_pins group pinmux_i2c2_pins
Apr 02 09:25:28 <nyt-> so those two i know
Apr 02 09:25:35 <nyt-> canbut the first two
Apr 02 09:25:54 <nyt-> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Apr  2 05:22 gpio4 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio4
Apr 02 09:25:54 <nyt-> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Apr  2 05:19 gpio5 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio5
Apr 02 09:26:13 <nyt-> no joy
Apr 02 09:26:18 * nyt- shrugs
Apr 02 09:26:22 <mazzoo> nyt-: if u unload i2c_dev driver still?
Apr 02 09:27:18 <nyt-> i never loaded it
Apr 02 09:27:22 <mazzoo> (or is there a /dev/i2c* at all?)
Apr 02 09:27:31 <nyt-> theres i2c0 and i2c1
Apr 02 09:27:50 <nyt-> i2c0 is the internal
Apr 02 09:27:52 <mazzoo> statically compiled in i2c?
Apr 02 09:27:53 <nyt-> i2c1 is 19 and 20
Apr 02 09:27:57 <nyt-> which is known i cant use
Apr 02 09:28:07 <nyt-> but 17 and 18 i didnt load the BB-I2C1 tree
Apr 02 09:28:35 <nyt-> i dont even have emmc or hdmi loaded, no trees loaded but default
Apr 02 09:29:05 <mazzoo> am not familiar with DT on bbb (am the bare-metal guy :)
Apr 02 12:42:44 <rob_w> how much ram would a am335x with the bbb layout take ?
Apr 02 12:50:33 <av500> ?
Apr 02 12:57:58 <gigo1980> hi all, i know that this question should be asked here verry often. is there an shop who can deliver beaglebone black in the next weeks ?
Apr 02 12:59:04 <LetoThe2nd> gigo1980: well you get the same, very often given answer: pick one and wait.
Apr 02 13:04:35 <dogrocket> I got one from amazon in 2 days last week, but they go quick.. might check them
Apr 02 13:33:02 <gigo1980> did you buy it directly from amazon or from an third party shop
Apr 02 14:15:56 <riotz> hi, has anyone got a rescue image that i can boot from sd card or usb for a bb black?
Apr 02 14:16:21 <av500> beaglebone.org
Apr 02 14:17:01 <mistawright> I need some help guys. I have an issue where I can not seem to be able to power my beaglebone black through the dc jack or through the gnd and vdd pins. it however works through the usb. Could my beaglebone black be damaged?
Apr 02 14:17:22 <av500> it could
Apr 02 14:17:58 <tbr> especially if you hooked up the wrong power supply
Apr 02 14:18:29 <mistawright> could it be fixed easily or at least tested? I will need to see about getting it replaced I am guessing
Apr 02 14:19:21 <Dan2> mistawright: havnt we already been through this with you?
Apr 02 14:19:50 <Dan2> you have probably reversed polarity?
Apr 02 14:20:00 <Dan2> and cooked something on the BBB
Apr 02 14:20:12 <tbr> toss the board, order a new one then.
Apr 02 14:20:40 <mistawright> sucks now i gotta join the wait for a beaglebone black to be available game
Apr 02 14:20:53 <Dan2> if it used to work..... and since you hooked it up wrong now it dosnt work...... its proably borked
Apr 02 14:20:59 <Dan2> time to buy a new board
Apr 02 14:21:07 <Dan2> yea but
Apr 02 14:21:17 <mistawright> i'll see if i can find one locally or wait for a in stock notification
Apr 02 14:21:26 <Dan2> asking the same shit in here isnt going to change the facts that you fucked up your original board.........
Apr 02 14:21:43 <Dan2> no matter how many times you ask the same thing
Apr 02 14:22:19 <Dan2> why did you even power it through the vdd pins? when i think you said you had a barrel connector anyway?
Apr 02 14:22:21 <tbr> if you understand electronics, you can try to read the schematics
Apr 02 14:23:01 <Dan2> tbr: if he understood electronics.... i dont think he would be asking the same question in here several times expecting a different outcome ;)
Apr 02 14:23:10 <tbr> right
Apr 02 14:23:13 <mistawright> lol
Apr 02 14:23:18 <tbr> new board it is
Apr 02 14:24:07 <mistawright> it was powered through the vdd pins. the next day it would not work. so i tried with the barrel jack and this is after it worked all day in the same setup being turned on and off through the vdd pin
Apr 02 14:24:49 <Dan2> i mean.... i hate to say "thats a pretty dumb thing to do"... specially when im happy to admit im far from any sort of expert..
Apr 02 14:25:37 <Dan2> but i just dont get why you have the ability to power it normally (through the jack) but you thought it would just be cool to hook it up via the pins?
Apr 02 14:25:55 <mistawright> i needed it powered bu
Apr 02 14:26:04 <Dan2> it just sounds like your asking for problems
Apr 02 14:26:12 <mistawright> by a h bridge module that output 5v to the beaglebone
Apr 02 14:26:38 <mistawright> so I would have been using the beaglebone to control motors through a l298n
Apr 02 14:26:52 <alan_o> Dan2: I've powered through the pins. I needed battery power and a regulator which I built onto a cape. It's a valid use case. See the Battery Cape for example.
Apr 02 14:27:03 <mistawright> all hooked up to a 3 cell lipo outputting
Apr 02 14:27:12 <Dan2> ahh yea ok
Apr 02 14:27:19 <Dan2> your forgiven :P
Apr 02 14:27:35 <alan_o> There are a few different pins for power, and you need to use the right ones. I looked at at the battery cape schematic for an example.
Apr 02 14:27:42 <Dan2> but... i still dont see how asking more than once expects you to get a different outcome
Apr 02 14:28:07 <alan_o> Dan2: wishful thinking and hoping the last guy didn't know what he was talking about :)
Apr 02 14:28:09 <Dan2> alan_o: yup ive seen them..... im also using them to power stuff
Apr 02 14:28:34 <Dan2> but been pretty damn careful about how/which ones i use :D
Apr 02 14:28:54 <alan_o> Polarity matters, it turns out
Apr 02 14:28:57 <alan_o> so does voltage
Apr 02 14:29:01 <Dan2> hahaha
Apr 02 14:29:02 <Dan2> indeed
Apr 02 14:29:12 <alan_o> That should be a sign above my door
Apr 02 14:29:23 <Dan2> and some annoying thing called amperage as well so im told......
Apr 02 14:29:55 <alan_o> There's no such thing as amperage
Apr 02 14:30:00 <alan_o> ^^ a peeve of mine :)
Apr 02 14:30:17 <alan_o> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amperage
Apr 02 14:30:21 <Dan2> lol
Apr 02 14:30:57 <mistawright> I wish it was easy enough to charge and power the beaglebone black through 1cell lipo. I have read about others doing it but it seemed too much at the time
Apr 02 14:31:01 <Dan2> didnt i already mention.... im no sort of expert? :P
Apr 02 14:31:15 <alan_o> hehe
Apr 02 14:31:37 <alan_o> mistawright: you wish it was easy to run a 5v board off of 3.7 volts?
Apr 02 14:31:48 <Dan2> haha
Apr 02 14:31:55 <alan_o> I guess I do too
Apr 02 14:32:15 <Dan2> ive run a raspberry pi off a 12v battery for a few weeks
Apr 02 14:32:19 <Dan2> that was easy
Apr 02 14:32:48 <alan_o> easy to go down. Harder to go up
Apr 02 14:32:54 <Dan2> indeed
Apr 02 14:33:25 <Dan2> for a couple of bucks..... rc car etc stuff have great options
Apr 02 14:34:48 <Dan2> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17161__X3_UBEC_6v_23v_input_5v_3A_Output.html?strSearch=5v%203a
Apr 02 14:35:41 <Dan2> could use 2 lipos and one of them
Apr 02 14:36:32 <alan_o> lipos need management though
Apr 02 14:36:44 <alan_o> even on discharge, as I understand it
Apr 02 14:36:51 <alan_o> if you use more than one at a time
Apr 02 14:38:08 <Dan2> i thought they had it built in (for protected ones)
Apr 02 14:38:36 <Dan2> tho...... didnt i already mention.... im no sort of expert lol
Apr 02 14:38:39 <mistawright> this is what i had powering the beaglebone black http://www.ebay.com/itm/111244913779?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Apr 02 14:39:10 <mistawright> I also have this which i was initially using as well http://www.ebay.com/itm/131073784088?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Apr 02 14:40:05 <alan_o> hmm
Apr 02 14:40:09 <alan_o> "adjustable"
Apr 02 14:40:25 <av500> can always use a bit more "juice"
Apr 02 14:40:35 <alan_o> av500: crank up the amperage a bit
Apr 02 14:40:55 <av500> give it EURO style wattage
Apr 02 14:42:26 <alan_o> That's like 1.39x American wattage, right?
Apr 02 14:42:52 <Dan2> pffttt.. you and your american watts.....
Apr 02 14:43:10 <Dan2> they are just a fantasy, like the moon landings or equal rights....
Apr 02 14:43:29 * Dan2 puts on flame suit 
Apr 02 14:44:17 <alan_o> Don't worry, one day you guys will get to the moon too. It's natural to have envy ;-D
Apr 02 14:51:20 <Dan2> alan_o: looool :)
Apr 02 15:15:00 <revr3nd> So this seems kind of odd
Apr 02 15:15:41 <revr3nd> I updated my BBB to the newest version of the BeagleBone debian build, but the run-boot-scripts file on the uboot folder is gone
Apr 02 15:15:54 <revr3nd> anyone know a way to kill usb0 on these newer debian builds?
Apr 02 15:30:01 <salaet> anybody knows any site that explain how to flash debian console armhf to emmc?
Apr 02 16:02:43 <philenotfound> salaet: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black
Apr 02 16:10:27 * N3wbs is away: Time for a pint
Apr 02 16:25:42 <salaet> philenotfound:thanks , but I need to custom my image
Apr 02 16:26:31 <riotz> how much watt can my power supply have to not fry a beaglebone black?
Apr 02 16:26:51 <salaet> W=V*I
Apr 02 16:27:11 <riotz> so that is max 10watt?
Apr 02 16:27:13 <mazzoo> P=U*I as we say here
Apr 02 16:27:37 <salaet> riotz
Apr 02 16:27:40 <salaet> no
Apr 02 16:28:01 <salaet> riotz:you can have 1000W
Apr 02 16:28:08 <trigpoint> But the board will take the current it needs
Apr 02 16:28:16 <salaet> exact
Apr 02 16:28:29 <salaet> mazzoo:Where are you from?
Apr 02 16:28:37 <mazzoo> salaet: europe
Apr 02 16:28:45 <salaet> but not latin
Apr 02 16:28:47 <salaet> ?
Apr 02 16:28:59 <mazzoo> as in latin europe?
Apr 02 16:29:05 <salaet> well romanic
Apr 02 16:29:11 <salaet> france,spain,italy etc..
Apr 02 16:31:17 <mazzoo> no, not latin/romanic
Apr 02 16:31:41 <mazzoo> sure they use W and V?
Apr 02 16:31:58 <mazzoo> would you say Wlamp=100W ?
Apr 02 16:32:07 <salaet> yes
Apr 02 16:32:27 <salaet> but in universety I study with P=U*I
Apr 02 16:32:34 <mazzoo> confusing (for physics scholars)
Apr 02 16:33:04 <salaet> in highschool W=V*I
Apr 02 16:33:35 <salaet> and kWh as energy
Apr 02 17:37:10 <dogrocket12> hello
Apr 02 17:38:09 <dogrocket12> I have to get a codec, anyone have impressions on which is best to use as far as cpu load i2s/i2c or usb?
Apr 02 17:38:35 <_av500_> i2s
Apr 02 17:38:57 <dogrocket12> does linux have good support for i2s you think?
Apr 02 17:39:51 <_av500_> yes
Apr 02 17:39:57 <cwicks> jkridner - sorry i'm late for GSOC discussion - do you need anything from me yet?
Apr 02 17:40:03 <cwicks> do all your mentors have BBB
Apr 02 17:40:07 * jkridner has to run.
Apr 02 17:40:15 <jkridner> we could always use more experienced mentors
Apr 02 17:40:29 <jkridner> btw, we meet in #beagle-gsoc and #beagle-mentors for these meetings.
Apr 02 21:12:26 <FUN> hi
Apr 02 21:21:47 <FUN> anyone using debian for beaglebone?
Apr 02 21:22:35 <FUN> when i do 'apt-get update' fetch fails
Apr 02 21:22:48 <MicroHex> Give me a moment, I'm about to try the same thing on this new install
Apr 02 21:24:34 <FUN> I got the image from the official download page. there are only two os: angstrom and debian
Apr 02 21:25:44 <MicroHex> if this FTDI dongle would cooperate
Apr 02 21:25:52 <MicroHex> it's less responsive than me sshing across the continent
Apr 02 21:30:20 <MicroHex> yeah, I'm getting failed to fetch as well
Apr 02 21:30:25 <MicroHex> not to mention a terrible serial connection...
Apr 02 21:33:02 <FUN> :(
Apr 02 21:33:49 <MicroHex> And before you ask, yeah, it's hooked up to my switch via a Cat6 cable
Apr 02 21:33:49 <FUN> I can download some software if i now exact name, but I don't
Apr 02 21:34:08 <FUN> I'm using usb-wifi
Apr 02 21:34:49 <FUN> wow! 'apt-cache search' worked
Apr 02 21:35:02 <FUN> but can't update?
Apr 02 21:35:32 <MicroHex> I'd try to help, but I'm trying to figure out why my serial is getting so garbled at 115200 on the FTDI Friend from Adafruit...
Apr 02 21:36:37 <FUN> use 'minicom'
Apr 02 21:36:56 <FUN> don't use 'screen'
Apr 02 21:37:53 <FUN> maybe the ftdi chip is defected one?
Apr 02 21:38:49 <pdp7> I like gtkterm on my ubuntu laptop to access the serial console on BBB via FTDI usb cable
Apr 02 21:39:12 <MicroHex> bah, figured out the reason
Apr 02 21:39:16 <MicroHex> bad USB Mini cable
Apr 02 21:40:24 <FUN> i was going to ask 'what is the voltage rating for ftdi?'
Apr 02 21:41:39 <MicroHex> 3.3V
Apr 02 21:41:55 <MicroHex> well, the VCC is 5V, but the BBB doesn't have the VDD pin connected
Apr 02 21:42:01 <MicroHex> just a bad connection
Apr 02 21:42:05 <MicroHex> 3v3 logic though
Apr 02 21:43:33 <FUN> I like to connect GND, TX, RX
Apr 02 21:46:29 <MicroHex> only 3 pins in the serial header actually connected
Apr 02 21:46:37 <MicroHex> the rest are just placeholders
Apr 02 21:46:51 <MicroHex> besides, FTDI Friend has a row of female header blocks
Apr 02 21:47:35 <FUN> man...I wan to apt-get update
Apr 02 21:48:29 <FUN> I'm still trying to figure it out
Apr 02 21:48:49 <MicroHex> well, I had no issue with update now
Apr 02 21:48:53 <MicroHex> tried a couple times and then it worked
Apr 02 21:49:44 <MicroHex> weird
Apr 02 21:49:57 <MicroHex> well, if you have the 2014-03-27 release of Angstrom
Apr 02 21:49:59 <MicroHex> which is what I have
Apr 02 21:50:03 <MicroHex> completely up to date apparently
Apr 02 21:50:14 <alexanderhiam> FUN: apt-cahce search uses the local cache, are you sure you're connected to the internet? ('#ping -c 3 http://google.com')
Apr 02 21:51:37 <FUN> I did download a program 'locales'
Apr 02 21:51:47 <FUN> I can ping google
Apr 02 21:51:58 <FUN> ping www.google.com
Apr 02 21:52:03 <FUN> so, ya
Apr 02 21:52:17 <alexanderhiam> weird
Apr 02 21:52:46 <FUN> this is what I get:
Apr 02 21:53:00 <FUN> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cf6dd31f9c2d76e5c4b7
Apr 02 21:53:03 <FUN> ops
Apr 02 21:53:32 <FUN> Err http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg
Apr 02 21:53:48 <FUN> Something wicked happened resolving 'ftp.us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
Apr 02 21:54:13 <FUN> can't find a hostname
Apr 02 21:54:48 <alexanderhiam> try commenting out ftp.us.debian.org in /etc/apt/sources.list
Apr 02 21:58:05 <FUN> all the source in the list show the same error
Apr 02 21:58:49 <alexanderhiam> oh my
Apr 02 21:59:40 <alexanderhiam> no clue then, I'd do some googling if I were you
Apr 02 22:01:32 <FUN> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
Apr 02 22:01:32 <FUN> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
Apr 02 22:01:32 <FUN> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
Apr 02 22:01:34 <FUN> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
Apr 02 22:01:36 <FUN> deb [arch=armhf] http://beagle.s3.amazonaws.com/debian wheezy-bbb main
Apr 02 22:06:53 <FUN> which os do u use?
Apr 02 22:09:20 <alexanderhiam> who me? don't know, not on a bbb at the moment
Apr 02 22:29:34 <FUN> got it!
Apr 02 22:29:43 <FUN> downloading pkg list
Apr 02 22:31:15 <FUN> I should try led blinking using gpio
Apr 02 22:32:54 <FUN> cool! I can ssh. good-bye ftdi~
Apr 02 22:49:45 <FUN> nvm, it was usb wifi powering down...
Apr 02 23:09:48 <niadh> Hi all, is there a way to automount an SD card at a specific location upon boot?
Apr 02 23:10:14 <niadh> My first thought was /etc/fstab, but this resulted in it waiting for 90 seconds then dropping into a root shell
Apr 02 23:11:11 <gburca> join #nbdev
Apr 02 23:11:24 <gburca> \join #nbdev
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