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Apr 26 04:43:56 <flumoxed> Hi *
Apr 26 05:57:24 <jpfau> I seem to have mucked up my device tree overlays for the EMMC and HDMI. I'm not sure how it's working at all right now, but dmesg says it can't load them. I don't seem to have associated dtbo files in /lib/firmware, either
Apr 26 05:57:41 <jpfau> I was trying to build my own kernel but it didn't seem to build the associated dtbo files
Apr 26 06:01:14 <bmatusiak_> where can i find the latest changelog of the latest kernel
Apr 26 06:02:02 <jpfau> I'm not experienced with device tree so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm building the kernel (3.12.13-bone12) from rcn's repository
Apr 26 06:05:27 <jpfau> oh, bleh, the "solution" I found online is to downgrade my kernel
Apr 26 06:07:36 <jpfau> guess I'm going back to 3.8
Apr 26 08:35:04 <ventus> hey dudes
Apr 26 08:35:37 <ventus> my beaglebone isn't starting at all, how can i test whats wrong?
Apr 26 08:36:39 <Dan1> serial debug cable would be best
Apr 26 09:00:13 <ventus> okey like a wonder its working again
Apr 26 09:00:27 <ventus> second question :-)
Apr 26 09:01:34 <ventus> how can i enable serial connection via usb to the beaglebone on debian  like its working on the preinstalled angstrom?
Apr 26 09:01:56 <ventus> i mean with debian on the beaglebone
Apr 26 09:50:42 <must_know> hello , ive got a beaglebone black before 5 months , but its seems it doesnt support my hdmi tv's , went to the forums and couldnt solve the issue
Apr 26 09:51:03 <must_know> any idea ?
Apr 26 11:59:49 <deluxe247> I need help with my dts. I loaded and get some output in dmesg that doesnt seem favorable I have gotten the amount of errors little by by but I am lost on how to resolve this error
Apr 26 12:01:31 <deluxe247> http://pastebin.com/siPtBhFa here is a link to what the output is. any help is appreciated
Apr 26 12:54:36 <JFK911> this battery wont discharge. i should short it
Apr 26 13:10:14 <veremit> ***BANG!***
Apr 26 13:10:35 <veremit> hey prpplague .. you there?
Apr 26 15:09:47 <fohnbit> Hello! Can I use Java8 ARM on a Angstrom BBB?
Apr 26 15:10:50 <tbr> probably
Apr 26 15:11:08 <fohnbit> I tried it with Debian on a BBB. Running fine, but was not able to enable the 4 UART
Apr 26 15:11:34 <fohnbit> Or does someone here know how I can use all UART unter Debian on my BBB?
Apr 26 15:12:06 <veremit> just enable the capes in capemgr in your uEnv.txt
Apr 26 15:12:18 <veremit> easy
Apr 26 15:12:30 <fohnbit> When I use Debian, I doesnt have this option, right?
Apr 26 15:12:36 <fohnbit> Because file are not exists
Apr 26 15:12:43 <veremit> yes it does
Apr 26 15:12:45 <fohnbit> with Angstrom it was easy, yes
Apr 26 15:13:13 <veremit> you can't boot otherwise .. uboot looks for uEnv .. although I guess someone's put a n00b version of uboot up .. I use eewiki.net debian/uboot build
Apr 26 15:13:26 <fohnbit> Ok, so I just have to generate the file and reboot (same as Angstrom)?
Apr 26 15:13:38 <veremit> probably .. I'd certainly try that :)
Apr 26 15:15:51 <fohnbit> You mean this Image?: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBoard#BeagleBoard-Debian7
Apr 26 15:18:26 <fohnbit> Or this one: http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-04-23-2gb.img.xz
Apr 26 15:19:57 <veremit> ah I do it manually according to the instructions on the first site
Apr 26 15:20:40 <fohnbit> OK, I will try the eMMC flasher Image ... maybe it works also there(?)
Apr 26 15:24:17 <veremit> I think the guy that hosts the eewiki site has been fairly instrumental in the transition to Debian on the BBB, so youshould be ok
Apr 26 15:24:24 <veremit> wow .. debian 7.4 .. damnit.
Apr 26 15:28:17 <_av500_> back
Apr 26 15:32:02 <fohnbit> OK, thank you for your help
Apr 26 15:33:13 <veremit> hope you figure it out .. lots of stuff on google :)
Apr 26 17:24:09 <fohnbit> Hello! I try to enable all UART on my BBB. Distribution Debian
Apr 26 17:24:09 <fohnbit> I generate the uEnv.txt File and reboot. But only UART1 is enabled
Apr 26 17:24:10 <fohnbit> Can someone help, thanks
Apr 26 17:37:34 <fohnbit> OK, guess I found it now
Apr 26 21:25:23 <Guest29665> hi
Apr 26 21:26:18 <Gmae> has anyone manufatured the BBB?
Apr 26 21:30:01 <shawnbon206> lol no
Apr 26 21:30:04 <shawnbon206> nobody
Apr 26 21:31:30 <nyt-> anyone know a decent cheap spectrum analyzer?
Apr 26 21:31:37 <nyt-> have some rf issues around my house messing w/ my alarm
Apr 26 21:37:29 <Gmae> shawnbon206: why that lol?
Apr 26 21:38:24 <shawnbon206> it means i was being sarcastic.. i think?
Apr 26 21:39:02 <shawnbon206> but also sadly its true because my rev C is on backorder indefinitely
Apr 26 21:39:07 <thurgood> there's a chinese company mass producing them now, isn't there?
Apr 26 21:39:46 <shawnbon206> once a month i check on it and the production keeps getting pushed farther and farther back
Apr 26 21:40:10 <Gmae> thurgood: what company is it?
Apr 26 21:40:28 <shawnbon206> at this rate its never going to happen
Apr 26 21:40:32 <Gmae> shawnbon206: I’m integrating the BBB in one of my products
Apr 26 21:40:49 <shawnbon206> i already CNCd a case for mine
Apr 26 21:41:51 <shawnbon206> anyone want a billet CNC bbb case?
Apr 26 21:42:29 <nyt-> pics
Apr 26 21:42:50 <myself> nyt-: you can sometimes score an SA430 for cheap with a coupon code or something, and all the UBNT M-series radios have spec-an mode for the bands they operate on. There's also the RF Explorer, which I have not used.
Apr 26 21:43:32 <thurgood> embest, apparently.. but it looks like they may not be exporting them out of china
Apr 26 21:43:52 <mrpackethead> thurgood, i think theres at least three companies buildign them now
Apr 26 21:43:54 <mrpackethead> theres embest
Apr 26 21:44:05 <mrpackethead> element14 and CCO
Apr 26 21:44:14 <mrpackethead> plus there is a bbb, in a different form factor
Apr 26 21:44:21 <tsquar3d> Yo. I am entertaining the idea of making a BBB cell-phone with a SIM900 shield -- anyone with experience in this?
Apr 26 21:44:21 <mrpackethead> and still the demand is too high.
Apr 26 21:44:25 <Gmae> thurgood: what about just sending the gerber and the BOM to a PCB manufacturer
Apr 26 21:44:38 <Gmae> tsquar3d: me
Apr 26 21:44:43 <mrpackethead> Gmae: theres an idea.
Apr 26 21:44:48 <thurgood> you can do that if you the design is open
Apr 26 21:44:56 <mrpackethead> the design is open
Apr 26 21:45:07 <tsquar3d> Gmae: Cool... did you get one to work -- and do you have a write-up?
Apr 26 21:45:09 <mrpackethead> the gerbers, bom and all the detail are on beaglebone.org
Apr 26 21:45:23 <thurgood> but in low quantities it will be significantly more expensive
Apr 26 21:45:40 <mrpackethead> in high quanitys it will e significnatly more expensive.
Apr 26 21:45:42 <Gmae> thurgood: expensieve how
Apr 26 21:45:51 <veremit> embest = element14
Apr 26 21:46:04 <veremit> cco I think will stop production .. china will compete on price & quantity
Apr 26 21:46:20 <veremit> if that is indeed whats happening :)
Apr 26 21:46:28 <thurgood> the prices are based on Minimum Order Qantities in the thousands
Apr 26 21:46:29 <mrpackethead> the BBB shoud never have been priced at $45, that is the problme
Apr 26 21:46:34 <veremit> cco have other projects to work on :)
Apr 26 21:46:59 <mrpackethead> at $45, its practiclaly impossible to make money
Apr 26 21:47:03 <thurgood> cco should raise the price if they can't keep up with the demand
Apr 26 21:47:06 <veremit> $45 is fine .. its the level of demand and production capacity that became issues.
Apr 26 21:47:10 <nyt-> myself: i was lookin gat rf explorer but it only went to 2.5ghz or something, was hoping to have something at least usable in teh 5ghz range as well, though what i need at the momenet is 300mhz, i'll check into those
Apr 26 21:47:16 <mrpackethead> and so, why woud you invest in the plant  to build more.
Apr 26 21:47:41 <mrpackethead> $45 is not fine.
Apr 26 21:48:19 <thurgood> the price being as low as it is increases the demand, and lowers the profit... decreasing future supply
Apr 26 21:48:49 <Gmae> tsquar3d: is SIM900 from SIMCOM?
Apr 26 21:49:08 <veremit> how much wold you like to pay mrpacket-spanner-cockface .. rofl
Apr 26 21:49:26 <veremit> :)
Apr 26 21:49:29 <tsquar3d> Gmae: yeah, I have the shield that is usually used with arduino
Apr 26 21:49:35 <thurgood> I would like to pay enough to be able to get one in a timely manner :P
Apr 26 21:49:36 <veremit> nvm
Apr 26 21:49:49 <veremit> cco couldn't keep up with demand .. simple as that
Apr 26 21:49:57 <Gmae> veremit: somebody is ussing the 45$ price to buy them directly from distributors and integrating them in a comercial design
Apr 26 21:50:12 <Gmae> tsquar3d: do you haveskype?
Apr 26 21:50:25 <thurgood> I wouldn't do that, because of the lead time
Apr 26 21:50:35 <veremit> Gmae .. LOTS of ppl are buying the stock up .. and either using in products (Like the Pi too) and/or sellig on ebay because demand is high and they can make a profit
Apr 26 21:50:35 <thurgood> but the price is tempting
Apr 26 21:50:41 <tsquar3d> Gmae: Nah -- internet connection is archaic.
Apr 26 21:50:58 <Gmae> tsquar3d: ahha
Apr 26 21:51:05 <veremit> cco have limited production capacity
Apr 26 21:51:24 <veremit> fix supply .. and ebay BBB vanish
Apr 26 21:51:29 <thurgood> people reselling on ebay new is a sign that the price is wrong
Apr 26 21:51:52 <veremit> if ppl wanna use Pi/BBB/etc in products .. thats fine
Apr 26 21:52:21 <Gmae> tsquar3d: well I’m integrating a design with BBB and SIM5360
Apr 26 21:52:33 <veremit> the Pi proved that a low-cost ARM board would sell
Apr 26 21:52:48 <veremit> other manufacturers .. eg BBB /Wand .. are struggling to catch up
Apr 26 21:52:56 <Gmae> veremit: I got one BBB for 100$ a week ago
Apr 26 21:53:00 <Gmae> veremit: on ebay
Apr 26 21:53:05 <veremit> mine was free :)
Apr 26 21:53:17 <Gmae> veremit: why is it?
Apr 26 21:53:39 <Gmae> tsquar3d: my design may help you
Apr 26 21:53:39 <veremit> I was gifted it from work as we were working on aproject with it .. and it broke .. so I had it repaired
Apr 26 21:54:05 <tsquar3d> You got a website? Gmae
Apr 26 21:54:21 <Gmae> tsquar3d: what do you mean
Apr 26 21:55:01 <tsquar3d> A place where you have documentation
Apr 26 21:55:14 <Gmae> tsquar3d: nope
Apr 26 21:55:40 <thurgood> we considered a bbb based design briefly, but the lack of 3d supporting kernels shelved that idea
Apr 26 21:55:44 <veremit> no blog/wiki/northing ?
Apr 26 21:56:04 <veremit> thurgood .. which way did you turn?
Apr 26 21:56:20 <veremit> imx6 got vpu/gpu work going on
Apr 26 21:56:22 <thurgood> stuck with a design based off the xM
Apr 26 21:56:41 <thurgood> and an older kernel
Apr 26 21:56:48 <Gmae> tsquar3d: are you planning to manufacture yourself?
Apr 26 21:57:11 <tsquar3d> Gmae: Yep. It's a hobbyist thing.
Apr 26 21:57:21 <tsquar3d> Might just stick with arduino or msp430, though.
Apr 26 22:01:03 <thurgood> also we would have needed to rewire the hdmi to use all 24 bits
Apr 26 22:03:42 <thurgood> we have some gradiated colors that band really noticeably in 16 bit mode
Apr 26 22:03:49 <thurgood> in our app
Apr 26 23:00:49 <nyt-> think ima pick up an rf explorer
Apr 26 23:00:51 <nyt-> 3g + 2.4g
Apr 27 00:15:55 <nyt-> just ordered some rtl-sdr usb dongle
Apr 27 00:16:00 <nyt-> will use that for specturm analyzer
Apr 27 00:16:23 <BeagleGithub> [kernel] yjh4ydj89 opened pull request #96: Use https:// instead of git://, preventing MitM (3.14...3.14) http://git.io/PWdi4A
Apr 27 00:43:23 <Gmae> Hi
Apr 27 00:43:44 <Gmae> has anyone manufactured the BBB?
Apr 27 00:44:01 <Gmae> I would like to integrate the BBB in a comercial design
Apr 27 01:16:48 <BeagleGithub> [kernel] RobertCNelson closed pull request #96: Use https:// instead of git://, preventing MitM (3.14...3.14) http://git.io/PWdi4A
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