**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 28 02:59:59 2014 Apr 28 05:05:12 wheres my bbb Apr 28 06:30:03 Hello everyone, anybody here? I got a question, I am confusing with that question all night. The Problem is when I would like to do some test with servo motor, and use the sudo sh -c "echo am33xx_pwm > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots" and sudo sh -c "echo bone_pwm_P8_13 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots", the IanMu pwm_test_P8_13.# file does not exit the file( ) Apr 28 06:30:25 anyone know what going on with my Beaglebone Black? Sorry for bother you guys Apr 28 06:38:27 NO ONE KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROB? Apr 28 06:39:46 IanMu: NO NEED TO SHOUT BECAUSE YOU DID NOT GET AN ANSWER INSTANTLY Apr 28 06:40:24 find out which file is missing. is the /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots there? Apr 28 06:41:12 sorry, yeah it is. Apr 28 06:41:47 ()the *exact* same name, especially the number? Apr 28 06:43:18 well, I am a lit bit confusing your question Apr 28 06:43:42 u mean the file's name? Apr 28 06:43:46 the bone_capemgr.# can have different numbers Apr 28 06:44:20 the bone_capemgr.# , the number is 9 no other file Apr 28 06:45:19 can you try doing: ls /lib/firmware | grep bone_pwm_P8_13 Apr 28 06:45:38 then check under /lib/firmware if the device tree blob for am33xx_pwm is there. and check first, if that name is actually correct. Apr 28 06:45:54 yeah Apr 28 06:47:26 I just write the command as hype_ told, it just has one file (bone_pwm_P8_13-00A0.dtbo) Apr 28 06:47:53 ok then it seems to be there Apr 28 06:48:53 well I am not sure, I tried to load the device tree files you are trying and it worked perfectly for me Apr 28 06:51:29 ah, i got it, the all night to check this stupid problem, thank you so much. hype_ and LetoThe2nd. Apr 28 06:51:41 it worked? Apr 28 06:52:00 IanMu: so please mark lesson learned: less shouting, more patience. Apr 28 06:54:23 Beacause the deadline is comming, I just has few days to complete, so I was so un-polite for everyone, I am really sorry for that. Apr 28 06:55:13 it works thank you Apr 28 07:08:24 has anybody used the sainsmart 3.2 inch lcd with the beaglebone black? I see there is a framebuffer driver that should facilitate this but i am unsure of how to hook it up Apr 28 07:30:47 IanMu: eat more chocolate Apr 28 07:31:34 I just eat some M&M chocolate ........ Apr 28 07:31:35 IanMu: deadlines are something you have to get used to, to be a successfull engineer. especially to the *wuuushhhhhh* sound they make when they pass and nothing is ready yet Apr 28 07:31:46 M&M is not chocolate Apr 28 07:32:10 it's a nut with a tiny layer of chocolate surrogate Apr 28 07:32:11 deadlines have the word "dead" in them Apr 28 07:32:44 haha . I really going to die.....for it... Apr 28 07:33:56 av500: Deadlines aren't dead, they're just pining for the fjords. Apr 28 07:38:11 hype_ are u there? Apr 28 07:39:37 I just find the file still no include these file........ Apr 28 07:40:29 and I used the command "ls /lib/firmware | grep bone_pwm_P8_13" reference hype_.. Apr 28 08:13:10 ? Apr 28 08:18:49 Hi I'm trying to make a batch of BBBlack, I have a good supplier in China and he told me, they can make the PCB , assemble the components but don't know how to check the assembly. They don't know how to check the board. Apr 28 08:19:01 anybody knows how to check the board? Apr 28 08:20:57 Hi? Apr 28 08:21:28 well, how do they check other PCBs that they make? Apr 28 08:21:37 or they dont Apr 28 08:22:07 GMaroto: well, checking your assembly is a bit the knowledge of the manufacturer, or you. its a bit of the special knowledge thats not for free ;) Apr 28 08:22:41 they check the board with an AOI (Automated optical inspection) Apr 28 08:23:13 no magic there. Apr 28 08:23:17 the problem with the BBB is the 3 chips with BGA Apr 28 08:23:51 you can 1) xray them 2) ignore 3) trust them that they know how to do things. Apr 28 08:24:00 its up to you. Apr 28 08:24:33 if becoming a board vendor whould just need to go to some irc channel and everybody would hand out all manufacturing knowledge, wouldn't we all be board vendors? Apr 28 08:24:53 many PCBs these days are BGA Apr 28 08:25:05 if BGA is problems for your manufacturer, I would pick another one Apr 28 08:25:10 is a problem* Apr 28 08:25:25 av500 obviously votes for option 3) ;) Apr 28 08:27:07 ok maybe option 3 it's the best for my supplier. Apr 28 08:27:13 thank you Apr 28 08:27:32 BGA is usually not "tested" for consumer stuff Apr 28 08:27:43 you make a few, check they work and then keep the process Apr 28 08:27:54 then you do high level tests Apr 28 08:31:15 Ok if I choose to trust they made a good job..I have another question. What are the steps for load linux? Directly load linux through image file in my SD? or I have to load a bootloader (or similar) like in arduino?? Apr 28 08:31:48 try www.beagleboard.org Apr 28 08:31:53 and www.google.com Apr 28 08:32:02 that has been asked and answered already many times Apr 28 08:32:15 "i want to sell baord but have no knowledge" Apr 28 08:32:28 answer "hire an engineer who knows stuff" Apr 28 08:32:40 or 3D-print one Apr 28 08:32:44 yay! Apr 28 08:33:06 plus: be aware that you are not allowed to name your board "Beaglebone Black" Apr 28 08:34:31 we all know that selling BBBs for funny prices seems like an easy way to make money this time. but really: there's a little bit more to it than just downloading the open data and hire a chines factory to produce it. Apr 28 08:34:35 jajaja ok, I'll try to find in google Apr 28 08:35:13 yes of course, I don't want to use the BBB name Apr 28 09:08:03 hii all i uploaded the angstrom image in my beagle bone board Apr 28 09:08:16 but my screen is not displaying any thing Apr 28 09:08:57 only at startup it shows logo and login and then display switches off Apr 28 09:09:26 why this is happening.. Do i need to upload an either image in BBB Apr 28 09:10:16 i Did cat /proc/cmdline i shows no option of video= there Apr 28 09:10:45 any one here? Apr 28 09:14:50 no, we all went out for lunch Apr 28 09:15:01 the others are busy with sleeping Apr 28 09:15:14 some might be procasturbating in the back Apr 28 09:15:58 did you connect a serial interface to the debugg port and watched what's happening during boot? Apr 28 09:16:26 yes ssh is fine working Apr 28 09:16:47 not ssh Apr 28 09:16:50 console Apr 28 09:16:54 then? Apr 28 09:17:00 the thing that works before even the kernel is loaded Apr 28 09:17:15 nothing is displaying there Apr 28 09:17:30 i dont mean the HDMI interface either Apr 28 09:17:35 BBB is not a PC Apr 28 09:17:49 then how to debug? Apr 28 09:17:54 get a usb-serial cable and connect it to the serial port Apr 28 09:18:05 waity Apr 28 09:18:07 descriptions how to do that are found using google Apr 28 09:18:09 *wait Apr 28 09:18:23 * KotH does not wait for no-one. not even death. Apr 28 09:18:43 Ok. Apr 28 09:19:28 Well i am connected it to ssh Apr 28 09:19:38 can we debug some thing here? Apr 28 09:21:32 serial != ssh Apr 28 09:22:14 you need much more unix knowledge to debug this kind of stuff without knowing what's going on during startup Apr 28 09:22:41 Okk.. Apr 28 09:51:50 i got screen over the HDMI port Apr 28 09:52:21 but there coming 2 option mpd ,xuser Apr 28 09:52:34 both requires password.. Apr 28 09:52:43 with ssh it do not need any passwword Apr 28 09:52:51 what to do??? Apr 28 09:55:08 you should still need a password with ssh. it's the same password for xServer as ssh Apr 28 09:57:42 If there's no password set then set one, reboot, and then try Apr 28 09:59:38 you might be able to use "ssh -X ..." flag to use the X11 forwarding Apr 28 10:04:12 My display gone again Apr 28 10:04:18 same is happenning again Apr 28 10:04:34 cat /proc/cmdline resutls console=ttyO0,115200n8 run_hardware_tests quiet root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootfstype=ext4 rootwait Apr 28 10:14:07 hello plz help,i need to upgrade uboot and ubl,while updating firmware,how it can be done.plz help Apr 28 10:24:56 we need to know what device and OS you're using Apr 28 10:29:54 i am using dm365 and 2.6 Apr 28 10:30:45 sorry, we dont do dm365 here Apr 28 10:31:37 ok,sorry. Apr 28 10:36:42 I am getting these errors when trying startx.. from ssh Apr 28 10:36:43 http://bpaste.net/show/P6fyvcY81FmTeAt78Hky/ Apr 28 10:39:46 please help Apr 28 10:39:50 what to do Apr 28 11:21:08 well you can't startx over ssh cause it's a different protocal. But you're missing modules. You might just be able to install them, or you may need to try a different kernel. I don't know Apr 28 11:21:49 you can startx via ssh if you used "ssh -X $host" Apr 28 11:21:55 its just super slow :) Apr 28 11:22:23 Is that if you're already ssh'd into it? Apr 28 11:22:24 and will cause chaos with the running X session on the host Apr 28 11:22:36 but technically it is possible Apr 28 11:25:31 Hi all i am trying to install qt in BBB Apr 28 11:25:54 i tried opkg install qt4-embedded --force-depends Apr 28 11:40:38 "/sys/class/gpio/gpio22/value: Unable to open? No such file or directory" Apr 28 11:41:30 nanu: failed to understand question - no context given - not parseable. Apr 28 11:41:49 wait Apr 28 11:42:13 if i do "echo 22 > /sys/class/gpio/export" i get "-bash: echo: write error: Device or resource busy" Apr 28 11:42:42 can you explain me why? Apr 28 11:44:33 nanu: well the pin is in use for hdmi. Apr 28 11:44:39 -> http://eskimon.fr/beaglebone-black-gpio-interactive-map Apr 28 11:49:18 okey Apr 28 11:49:36 in my uEnv.txt i have the option Apr 28 11:49:39 optargs=capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G Apr 28 11:51:10 and you are right Apr 28 11:51:20 cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots Apr 28 11:51:39 gives 5: ff:P-O-L Bone-Black-HDMI,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMI Apr 28 11:53:57 or no Apr 28 11:54:05 it is disabled Apr 28 12:02:13 reboot did the trick Apr 28 12:48:10 hello sir,i a have connected beaglebone black to internet through usb. I want to install lamp on it,i didint find which wrks to install Apache. Can u help me in it? Apr 28 12:49:10 opkg install apache2 doesn't work Apr 28 12:49:40 maybe it's called differently? Apr 28 12:50:29 apt-get install apache2 Apr 28 12:50:34 ? Apr 28 12:51:16 no i cnt use apt-get .. for angstrom opkg should be used Apr 28 12:53:11 I'm sure i used apt-get, only used opkg to install local packages Apr 28 12:59:03 i tried apt-get, it shows error that unknown command apt-get Apr 28 13:01:45 i followed this link too http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/http.apache Apr 28 13:01:57 but this also doent work Apr 28 13:03:50 well.. it might be the case that angström is not openwrt Apr 28 13:04:07 maybe you should google for "angström apache" Apr 28 13:04:13 ^^^^ Apr 28 13:33:16 Anyone know what the total max forward voltage is for the usb port? Apr 28 14:18:34 Hi, I have very interesting discussion: My beaglebone black does not see sd card suddenly, I mean /dev/mmcblk1 not appearing when in. And u-boot says"Card did not respond to voltage select!" could this be a hardware problem? Apr 28 14:54:55 monoxide_13: max voltage and current for any USB2.0 port in powered mode is 5V +- 0.15V at 500mA Apr 28 14:55:04 monoxide_13: non powered is at 100mA Apr 28 16:13:16 Embedded Linux Conf tomorrow ^_^ Apr 28 16:13:52 * tbr grumbles something into his non-existent beard Apr 28 16:14:28 * nyt- yawns Apr 28 16:14:29 morning Apr 28 16:21:47 anyone compiled RobertCNelson's kernel? I ran his linux-dev/build_mainline.sh Apr 28 16:22:20 which created 3.15.0-rc3-armv7-devel-r32-dtbs.tar.gz Apr 28 16:22:34 not sure where that should be deployed to Apr 28 16:28:01 yes. but not the test kernels Apr 28 16:28:10 3.8 is the production kernel Apr 28 16:28:37 the dtbs are deployed in /lib/firmware Apr 28 16:28:41 and a few i believe in uboot possibly Apr 28 16:30:04 nyt-: ah, ok... i was confused cus i only saw dtbo files in /lib/firmware not dtb Apr 28 16:31:32 well the compiled versions go there Apr 28 16:32:33 oh, ok. i was wondering if i need to 'compile' the .dtb files Apr 28 16:33:04 dtb are compiled Apr 28 16:33:10 the s ones are not Apr 28 16:33:24 ah, thanks. Apr 28 16:33:47 the build mainline produced: Apr 28 16:33:53 root@beaglebone:~/linux-dev/deploy# ls -latr *rc3* Apr 28 16:33:54 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4670432 Apr 28 03:34 3.15.0-rc3-armv7-devel-r32.zImage Apr 28 16:33:54 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110388 Apr 28 03:34 config-3.15.0-rc3-armv7-devel-r32 Apr 28 16:33:54 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 712202 Apr 28 03:34 3.15.0-rc3-armv7-devel-r32-modules.tar.gz Apr 28 16:33:57 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1220562 Apr 28 03:34 3.15.0-rc3-armv7-devel-r32-firmware.tar.gz Apr 28 16:34:00 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 878237 Apr 28 03:35 3.15.0-rc3-armv7-devel-r32-dtbs.tar.gz Apr 28 16:34:09 so hopefully i just need to expand those into the right directories Apr 28 16:34:10 firmware.tar may have the .dtb files you need Apr 28 19:58:52 Hello guys, I got a problem with Beaglebone Black using the PWM. The QUESTION is: I cannot find the file ( , , , ), when I was check the list of ocp.2/pwm_test_P8_13.”14” Apr 28 19:59:58 make sure the proper dtbs are loaded Apr 28 20:00:14 I would like to test the servo control with Beagelbone Black as the tutrial show(http://digital-drive.com/?p=136) Apr 28 20:03:30 hi everyone Apr 28 20:03:49 do you mean building the Device Tree Overlay? as the tutorial of Derrek Molly on the Youtube? Apr 28 20:04:33 i mean loading it Apr 28 20:04:36 what dist are you using Apr 28 20:04:42 and what trees did you load via cape manager? Apr 28 20:05:08 you might want to consider using a library that supports this io stuff and does the lifting for you Apr 28 20:05:16 e.g. https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone Apr 28 20:08:11 I am not sure about which dist were I used? I just know I used the Linux ubuntu 3.8.13-bone20 Apr 28 20:08:45 has anyone installed mono on a debian distro on the BBB? Apr 28 20:10:29 and How can I check what trees I load via that manager? sorry, I am new one on that, just wanna complete the project, it is so complex for me. Apr 28 20:11:51 if you loaded them, you should know. you simply read the file you wrote the tree names to Apr 28 20:12:01 like i said though, consider using a library Apr 28 20:12:04 either the ruby one i linked Apr 28 20:12:06 or the python one Apr 28 20:12:09 or bonescript Apr 28 20:13:02 I link the python I think, I did them as "https://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-io-python-library-on-beaglebone-black/installation-on-ubuntu" tutorial. Apr 28 20:13:31 if you're using the library why are you trying to access the sys files directly Apr 28 20:15:59 wait moment let me think to answer you......so you mean I should got to the python library to do something or ...... Apr 28 20:20:03 If you I do something using #python, and write some to setup the PWM as "import Adafruit_BBIO.PWM as PWM", and then "PWM.start("P8_13", 50, 1000, 1) ", it will show IOError: [Errno 13] Permission defined: `/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slts` Apr 28 20:20:28 you need to run it as root Apr 28 20:20:29 use sudo Apr 28 20:20:30 as the docs say Apr 28 20:20:41 https://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-io-python-library-on-beaglebone-black/installation-on-ubuntu Apr 28 20:20:43 see the big red block Apr 28 20:20:48 right at the top of the link you pasted Apr 28 20:21:13 if running it as root Apr 28 20:21:17 seems there is an error in the library Apr 28 20:21:20 as it shoudl be slots, not slts Apr 28 20:21:41 in which case, either update the library, or use something that isn't broken Apr 28 20:21:44 https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone Apr 28 20:22:17 If I do that thing as root, it will show RuntimeError: You must start() the PWM channel first. Apr 28 20:23:09 you must run it as root Apr 28 20:24:48 oh I see, but when I run it as root, it show must start() the PWM channel first. I think I have already done this step, is that steps ("import Adafruit_BBIO.PWM as PWM", and then "PWM.start("P8_13", 50, 1000, 1) ")??? Apr 28 20:25:31 seems there is an error in the library Apr 28 20:25:32 as it shoudl be slots, not slts Apr 28 20:25:33 in which case, either update the library, or use something that isn't broken Apr 28 20:25:33 https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone Apr 28 20:25:43 Well you suggest me to use the ruby? Apr 28 20:25:54 you can either update the python library Apr 28 20:25:58 you can do so using pip I believe Apr 28 20:26:05 or use something different if its still broken after updating Apr 28 20:28:48 let me try, because at morning I have a same problem with that, the kindly person same to you, suggest me to try ...blablabla | blablabal sorry for that, it just has a little help but did not work well, so I am still confusing with that. By the way, thank your suggestion. Apr 28 20:38:29 Sorry again, I just did the first step to install ruby, and finish that, to use the sudo gem install beaglebone, it show command not found. And I try to install gem(sudo apt-get install gem), when it done, it still has that problme: command not found. Apr 28 20:41:43 try installing rubygems Apr 28 20:41:50 youre also using an old image Apr 28 20:41:53 you might want to update Apr 28 20:41:56 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Apr 28 20:45:34 hi guys Apr 28 20:45:40 eh.....OK, Actually, I am student for the final project with Beaglebone Black, and My project is relate about tracking face or facial recongnition something like that (Using pan/tilt brach), Before I did that, I saw a lot of information about using the Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS. About your suggestion ,to use the latest image is that mean to change the Angstrom dist? Apr 28 20:46:01 yes, use debian, it's the current official image Apr 28 20:46:10 Somebody here still uses the beaglebone white? Apr 28 20:46:33 I am facing some trouble with it so I need a bit of help... Apr 28 20:47:56 Somebody here successfully got mcasp device driver to work on kernel 3.8.13? Apr 28 20:48:54 sorry for disturbing you, victorsantos. About my question, is no way to fix that? (nyt-)?? Apr 28 20:50:25 Hi IanMu, what interfaces you will need in this project? Apr 28 20:50:34 SPI? I2C? Apr 28 20:51:01 ubuntu is bloatware for most ARM boards .. save perhaps the imx6quad :D Apr 28 20:51:16 IanMu: install the latest debian image Apr 28 20:51:23 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Apr 28 20:51:26 How much difference would it make to use Ubuntu image instead of Debian, or even Arch on BeagleBone based systems? Apr 28 20:51:43 ubuntu is loosely based on debian Apr 28 20:51:49 package management is identical Apr 28 20:51:57 except for bloating the system, I mean Apr 28 20:52:12 I think there is an arch and a gentoo image .. Apr 28 20:52:13 Arch is a really pain in the ass to set up, for faster development I would take debian or ubuntu Apr 28 20:52:13 the debian image is the one being developed Apr 28 20:52:17 just use it Apr 28 20:52:18 and given that we would be running them headless most of the time Apr 28 20:52:25 debian is good :) Apr 28 20:52:44 or .. adequate .. I should say lol Apr 28 20:53:01 the hard-core will go for arch/gentoo and cross-compile just the required bits :D Apr 28 20:53:04 Guys, someone here working with the white bone yet? Apr 28 20:53:17 the cpu is the same as other beagles no victorsantos? Apr 28 20:53:35 its Sitara AM3359 I guess Apr 28 20:53:39 revision A3 Apr 28 20:54:07 when is the next test image of Debian on the BBB going to be out? Apr 28 20:54:13 It is so hard to find anyone working with it because the black bone is cheaper and better performance Apr 28 20:54:18 Last one was on 23rd April Apr 28 20:54:46 I am facing problems in trying to set up McASP device driver to work Apr 28 20:54:50 victorsantos .. the software should be the same Apr 28 20:55:08 23rd april 2014? I'd say that was .. err .. Last week?! :p Apr 28 20:55:20 Abhishek_: hasn't been many changes since, don't knwo what you're waiting for Apr 28 20:56:16 nope, just wanted to know if there is a new version upcoming in the next few days. Apr 28 20:56:31 I got the device showep up in /dev, and when I enter with aplay -l command it shows up a device called DA830 Apr 28 20:57:06 but I have some doubts related to the McASP clock Apr 28 20:57:50 I need it as a master device, to send PCM clock to a CODEC, but when I play some audio or even testing it, I can't get any clock signal in aclk pin Apr 28 20:57:53 is this right? Apr 28 20:58:07 Abhishek_: i dont think so, rcn is traveling Apr 28 20:59:13 It's my first time with audio development on linux, and it's a bit hard to find some interesting info about this step Apr 28 20:59:58 someone here is using kernel 3.8 or all of you are working with 3.2/old based kernel? Apr 28 21:00:18 lots have moved to 3.12+ victorsantos Apr 28 21:00:35 using 3.8 with latest debian build here Apr 28 21:00:36 maybe running away from device tree? lol Apr 28 21:00:58 nyt, do you know how to setup mcasp to work with TDM? Apr 28 21:01:09 havent used mcasp Apr 28 21:01:21 only have bbb Apr 28 21:01:45 bbb uses mcasp too, I will take one in the next week to test Apr 28 21:01:55 victorsantos .. you've done the pinmuxes, yes? Apr 28 21:02:02 yes Apr 28 21:02:33 I got some dts in google called BB-BONE-AUDI-01.dts something like this Apr 28 21:02:40 victorsantos .. http://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/t/194645.aspx any use? Apr 28 21:02:48 with the pinmuxes and pinctrl descriptions Apr 28 21:03:24 that looks a lot over my head right now lol Apr 28 21:03:58 lol Apr 28 21:04:48 I will take a break to read this discussion about McASP you sent veremit Apr 28 21:05:53 what are you using the TDM bus for? Apr 28 21:07:14 I need to make a product for my company, a FXS-VoIP gateway, and I need to talk with a Silicon Labs Codec Si3226x, so the interfaces I need to set up are SPI and McASP to treat the pcm side of CODEC Apr 28 21:07:19 got it? Apr 28 21:07:32 how many channels is the Si3226x? Apr 28 21:08:08 I have another question, how many channels this Sitara could offer? Apr 28 21:08:23 I need something around 16 channels at least Apr 28 21:08:47 wow Apr 28 21:08:53 that makes it a little harder to do the Linux end of things Apr 28 21:09:06 not sure if ALSA supports a single device with 16 or more channels Apr 28 21:09:26 I could work with less channels Apr 28 21:09:27 16... you must be taking to a E1? Apr 28 21:09:36 or a T1? Apr 28 21:09:45 no no, it is FXS Apr 28 21:09:53 analog telephones Apr 28 21:10:04 t1 would be 24 :) Apr 28 21:10:39 anybody have SGX working? Apr 28 21:10:46 If I have at least 4 FXS interfaces working it would be awesome Apr 28 21:10:48 if you use all 24 for it Apr 28 21:11:00 just to prove a concept Apr 28 21:11:01 got it? Apr 28 21:11:02 you don't have to use all 24 or 32 slots for voice Apr 28 21:12:02 I will have to do the same project for E1 lines later Apr 28 21:12:15 but for now I need to set this up to work with some FXS lines Apr 28 21:12:25 docs claim it can do up to 32 slots Apr 28 21:12:53 yep, I guess this is good enough to my application Apr 28 21:12:57 why is 3d acceleration advertised, but no support? Apr 28 21:13:09 do you plan to run the codecs on the cortex? Apr 28 21:13:19 or just 711 straight out the networkside? Apr 28 21:13:24 Just G.711 Apr 28 21:13:44 bmatusiak__ .. TI are not renowned for their 'support' Apr 28 21:13:45 I am planning to use some SIP stack like Sophia Apr 28 21:13:54 interesting projecting Apr 28 21:13:55 libsofia Apr 28 21:14:08 looked at something like this a decade ago Apr 28 21:14:24 lol Apr 28 21:14:30 3D accel works just fine Apr 28 21:14:33 use an appropraite kernel Apr 28 21:15:10 at that time I was looking at using QSLICs from AMD Apr 28 21:15:11 I just don't know which kernel has better support (i.e I will have faster development and more support) to develop Apr 28 21:15:28 veremit: lol then why advertised it? lol Apr 28 21:15:33 My planning is to setup the device drivers quickly to start the job Apr 28 21:15:45 do someone of you could give a clue? Apr 28 21:15:52 bmatusiak__ .. marketing :p Apr 28 21:16:04 bmatusiak__: well that makes me wana pee on my BBB Apr 28 21:16:05 lol .. try ds2's solution .. an appropriate kernel Apr 28 21:16:30 veremit: link me if you could Apr 28 21:16:34 I believe there was a new BSP or whatever they call it .. shoulda shone some light on it Apr 28 21:16:49 ds2 .. any tips? Apr 28 21:17:27 all my arm boards are headless Apr 28 21:17:38 if I want fancy graphics .. I'd probably use the Pi (puke) lolz Apr 28 21:17:59 although I bet it doesn't do 3D either ... Apr 28 21:18:02 hehe Apr 28 21:18:03 tips? Apr 28 21:18:16 the docs for these silabs slics are locked down Apr 28 21:18:22 so no idea on them Apr 28 21:18:32 3d accel ds2 Apr 28 21:18:43 is it the vpu on this chip? I get my ARMs mixed up :( Apr 28 21:18:53 the Silicon Labs side its easy to work Apr 28 21:19:09 I have some expertise on it, we just finished a project using it on my company Apr 28 21:19:43 All that I need is to setup up something to treat PCM side and to generate PCM clock on the bone Apr 28 21:20:09 for one thing, avoid the DT kernels Apr 28 21:20:19 DT? Apr 28 21:20:22 device tree Apr 28 21:20:30 ah, got it Apr 28 21:20:34 I am using one at this moment Apr 28 21:20:37 victorsanots: do they really have the ring voltage generators on the chip? Apr 28 21:21:12 i see you're back device tree hating again Apr 28 21:21:18 the FXS we used uses a pmos to generate its working voltage Apr 28 21:21:43 but it is a slave in respect of clock needing Apr 28 21:21:58 nyt-: go fix it for him. Apr 28 21:22:07 it needs a master clock to get CoDEC to work Apr 28 21:22:49 victorsantos: that's a nice part... it was annoying figuring a way to generate the ring voltage and meet spec Apr 28 21:25:35 where I can found some tutorial or something to start my work again with an old kernel (3.2/older) ? Apr 28 21:25:55 no prebuild ones, I like to compile my things ;) Apr 28 21:28:44 there is a lot of readings talking about set up spi and mcasp on kernels with device tree support, It is hard to find something working in the older kernels Apr 28 21:29:58 dunno bout pinmux kernels, but spi just works with dtb kernels Apr 28 21:30:29 I got spi working like a charm, spidev1.0 and 1.1 Apr 28 21:30:31 piece of cake Apr 28 21:30:42 this mcasp that is a pain in the ass Apr 28 21:30:52 spi works fine in every kernel I have used Apr 28 21:31:01 donno what problems people are having Apr 28 21:31:18 the problem with DT kernels is having to deal with porting 234980294238904238094823094823094 different drivers Apr 28 21:31:29 whats pissing me off with dt Apr 28 21:31:33 is that its not finished yet Apr 28 21:31:42 e.g. can't change pullup/pulldown modes on gpio pins yet Apr 28 21:31:49 it is easier and quicker to backport a DT driver to my kernel. Apr 28 21:31:53 adc driver has no constant polling support Apr 28 21:32:17 nyt-: hmmm? the version of DT I have seen allows that. it is just a major PITA to do that Apr 28 21:32:23 ALL hte ADC drivers are F'ed Apr 28 21:32:25 which Apr 28 21:32:28 well Apr 28 21:32:29 someone has a link where I can use to restart my work? Apr 28 21:32:38 had to write my own ADC driver Apr 28 21:32:39 just, saying, friendly Apr 28 21:32:40 lol Apr 28 21:32:41 the adc drivers in 3.8 were hosed by a patch trying to add constant polling, which didn't work Apr 28 21:32:49 i submitted a patch to fix single reads Apr 28 21:32:54 by removing the broken constant reading patch Apr 28 21:32:59 which is in the latest build now Apr 28 21:33:07 the ADC driver in any of the versions don't work for damn Apr 28 21:33:18 the old TI one overruns the FIFO Apr 28 21:33:23 but, no joy for continuous sampling Apr 28 21:33:29 the new one don't look much better Apr 28 21:33:34 solution - write yet another one :D Apr 28 21:33:40 latest debian build does proper sampling now Apr 28 21:33:43 I can get reliable 8KHz sampling with my own Apr 28 21:33:49 but no continuous Apr 28 21:34:03 i was seeing 16khz from the latest debian kernel iirc Apr 28 21:34:06 but that's nothing Apr 28 21:34:13 do someone had success on get working mcasp with an old kernel at least? Apr 28 21:34:15 compared to what its capable of in continuous Apr 28 21:34:15 I needed 8KHz for audio input reasons Apr 28 21:34:27 it can do a lot faster but my use calls for 8KHz :D Apr 28 21:34:47 the McASP driver is largely teh same as other chips Apr 28 21:35:37 nyt-: what happens if you enable continous on the kernels you are looking at? Apr 28 21:35:49 I need to get out now Apr 28 21:36:05 lets continue talking in a mail list, mail me victor.ifsc@gmail.com Apr 28 21:36:07 see ya guys ;) Apr 28 21:37:49 ds2: you can't Apr 28 21:38:06 ds2: the patch that was removed, for continuous support, didn't include a valid/working method to enable Apr 28 21:38:41 ah Apr 28 21:38:53 so the IIO glue is broken too Apr 28 21:39:00 sigh Apr 28 21:39:05 use the widget Apr 28 21:39:05 too much crap Apr 28 21:39:11 that .. erm .. module Apr 28 21:39:15 GRR memory fail Apr 28 21:39:22 nyt-: fwiw, I have it tied ot ALSA instead Apr 28 21:39:53 the ti driver has a 'mode' file which you can use to specify oneshot or continuous Apr 28 21:39:56 this was missing in the kernels Apr 28 21:40:16 i have no idea on the status in the other kernels Apr 28 21:40:26 yes Apr 28 21:40:26 but 3.8 doesnt have continuous support atm by default Apr 28 21:40:31 but that mode is serious broken Apr 28 21:40:42 it overruns the FIFO a lot Apr 28 21:40:46 someone doing gsoc tried to enable continuous in 3.8 and left everything broken Apr 28 21:40:46 seriously Apr 28 21:40:47 * nyt- sighs Apr 28 21:40:58 at least thats fixed now Apr 28 21:41:00 nyt-: what are you using the ADC for? Apr 28 21:41:28 PMU ? Apr 28 21:41:31 *cough* lol Apr 28 21:41:33 at the moment nothing Apr 28 21:41:39 PRU! thats it! Apr 28 21:41:45 was helping my wife w/ a project reading from a pulse sensor Apr 28 21:41:46 'k Apr 28 21:41:58 http://bugs.elinux.org/issues/73 Apr 28 21:42:11 just throwing together a character device to pull in samples is easy enough to do Apr 28 21:42:25 setup 4 registers and service the interrupts Apr 28 21:42:57 fortunately i dont need it atm, but it'd be nice to have working somehow without having to jump through hoops and hack like crazy Apr 28 21:43:21 the sad thing here is for EE reasons, it is easier to add an extra I2C adc then to make user of extra channels on that ADC :/ Apr 28 21:43:36 thats probably a good idea ds2 Apr 28 21:43:49 just forget the broken-ness .. but I know nyt- never will .. he's a man on a mission :) Apr 28 21:44:15 veremit: no... I have 2 needs - audio input and battery level measurement Apr 28 21:44:32 you don't need 16khz sampling on a battery :P Apr 28 21:44:38 the AM3359 cannot have any pin driven if it is turned off. so either I put in a mux to cut power Apr 28 21:44:46 and if you're wanting audio sampling .. wtf are you using an ADC?! Apr 28 21:44:55 or I just have an ADC directly powered by the battery and have it high Z the bus Apr 28 21:45:02 what do you think a CODEC is? Apr 28 21:45:09 *cough* Apr 28 21:45:20 you know what I mean !! :P Apr 28 21:45:31 there is nothing wrong with the ADC for audio input Apr 28 21:45:46 the battery is a completely ortogonal need Apr 28 21:45:46 in principle .. no .. lol Apr 28 21:45:59 sample rate on that just needs to be sub 1Hz Apr 28 21:46:06 in practice ...... Apr 28 21:46:31 if you have room to run an I2S bus around and slap on yet another chip, go for it. Apr 28 21:46:42 I don't have room or interest in debugging yet another chip Apr 28 21:47:26 one chip at a time .. *snicker* Apr 28 21:48:06 chips take room Apr 28 21:48:14 lol Apr 28 21:48:19 spi adc for continuous sampling Apr 28 21:48:21 much better Apr 28 21:48:27 such speeds Apr 28 21:48:31 not worth the headache for like $2 Apr 28 21:48:40 but at least one shot works now out of the box Apr 28 21:48:44 not tssop they don't :P~ Apr 28 21:48:50 tssop is HUGE Apr 28 21:49:10 gawd what you building thats so small you can fit a beagle in it?! Apr 28 21:49:10 ? Apr 28 21:49:18 the beagle is just for a mock up Apr 28 21:49:22 *scratches head* Apr 28 21:49:38 wearables! Apr 28 21:49:52 one of these days Apr 28 21:49:58 i'll have time to actually put something fun together with a bb Apr 28 21:50:02 instead of just writing code for others :( Apr 28 21:50:39 ds2 .. distributed computing/electronics :P Apr 28 21:51:06 the fun is with the 0.4mm pitch parts Apr 28 21:51:10 yeah, I mean .. you can probably Fix/fudge the ADC driver .. but you're gonna have to hack it .. thats the harsh truth Apr 28 21:51:20 eh? Apr 28 21:51:23 I have it working alrady Apr 28 21:51:26 already. Apr 28 21:51:31 then what you complaining about??? Apr 28 21:51:32 lol Apr 28 21:51:34 all done. finish. Apr 28 21:51:36 -sigh- Apr 28 21:52:08 just telling you guys... it can be quicker ot just do it instead of debugging that mess of code Apr 28 21:52:21 we're just bitching about the adc code Apr 28 21:52:41 what I wished is the ADC would work at 13.5MHz Apr 28 21:52:43 :D Apr 28 21:53:04 mm Apr 28 21:53:06 that'd be nice Apr 28 21:53:21 i have an rtl-sdr coming tomorrow Apr 28 21:53:24 usb Apr 28 21:53:28 looking forward to playing with that Apr 28 21:53:36 (and debugging wtf is up in the rf band my alarm runs on) Apr 28 21:53:41 wish I had time for that Apr 28 21:53:45 i think a neighbor is doing something not so good Apr 28 21:54:55 why not just get a spectrum analyzer? Apr 28 21:55:05 the sub1GHz ones aren't that $$ thesedays Apr 28 21:55:13 $21 Apr 28 21:55:15 for rtl-sdr Apr 28 21:55:26 25mhz - 1700mhz Apr 28 21:55:32 will use sdrsharp as an sa Apr 28 21:56:02 if you got the time to set it all up.... Apr 28 21:56:16 eh, sdrsharp is pretty easy Apr 28 21:56:20 should have it up and running in like 15m Apr 28 21:56:37 you must have windows machines handy? Apr 28 21:56:40 yep Apr 28 21:56:50 my macbook ;) Apr 28 21:57:10 heh took osx off of that after like a month of being annoyed Apr 28 21:57:25 helps to just borrow an spec from a friend ;) much quicker Apr 28 21:57:30 well yeah Apr 28 21:57:34 but i dont have any friends with such toys Apr 28 21:57:36 :( Apr 28 21:57:42 my friends are all kind of stupid Apr 28 21:57:48 oh Apr 28 21:57:58 i was looking at those rf explorers for cheap Apr 28 21:58:00 they seem kind of cool Apr 28 21:58:06 but for $20 vs $200 Apr 28 21:58:39 okay back to porting code Apr 29 01:09:28 Hello everyone Apr 29 01:09:52 Im coming from an Arduino...What the hell is this thing and how do I use it Apr 29 02:40:43 howthefunk, how much time do you have? Apr 29 02:41:58 Whenever I do an "opkg install ", the command seems to work but never completes. Last message is "Configuring gnome-common-schemas". Am I doing something wrong? Apr 29 02:42:02 Any suggestions? Apr 29 02:45:02 running angstrom Apr 29 02:45:13 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Apr 29 02:46:39 nyt- - was that question for me? I'm not very experienced with IRC and it looks like there are lot of people logged in here. Apr 29 02:47:23 nyt- if so, yes, running angstrom, but stock whatever came with the board (purchased < 1 month ago). Currently downloading latest image from that directory to my microSD card Apr 29 02:47:31 Will be running newest image soon. Apr 29 02:49:02 run the latest debian Apr 29 02:49:04 its worlds better Apr 29 02:49:51 nyt-: OK, will do. Need to download that next... Apr 29 02:55:36 nyt- How good are features in debian for turning off unnecessary hardware? I'm going to be in a low power situation, and will need to turn off stuff that I'm not using (Ethernet PHY, HDMI, USB host). Do you think I'll sill be able to do that in Debian? Apr 29 02:56:31 hdmi is done by editing uenv Apr 29 02:56:35 and not loading the dtb for the hdim cape Apr 29 02:56:41 usb is probably able to be done with usb control tools Apr 29 02:56:43 same for ethernet Apr 29 02:57:20 Cool. BTW: I've already run into another problem with Angstrom - SSL certificate problems when trying ot use PIP. So maybe being on a mainstream disti will be a good idea. :-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 29 02:59:58 2014