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May 17 03:00:39 <veremit> raspberrypifan .. go order one and wait. Supply is increasing :P~
May 17 03:00:52 <raspberrypifan> but i dont want the new revision its too expensive, i want an older cheaper one
May 17 03:00:58 <veremit> try ebay :P~
May 17 03:01:04 <veremit> but you'll be REALLY lucky lol
May 17 03:01:07 <veremit> and its a cheap board!
May 17 03:01:21 <raspberrypifan> not as cheap as the pi
May 17 03:01:27 <savagecreature> veremit, where would I find a proper image?
May 17 03:01:31 <veremit> savagecreature .. you should be able to download an image in whatever, and there is a w32imagewrite for windows
May 17 03:01:45 <veremit> I've seen it on other ARM platforms
May 17 03:02:05 <veremit> raspberrypifan .. well thats because the price was #1 in the Pi Foundation's requirements.
May 17 03:02:15 <veremit> but you get what ya get.
May 17 03:02:25 <raspberrypifan> also there a foundation, y'all are for profit? right
May 17 03:02:26 <veremit> debian netinstall is only one option
May 17 03:02:37 <veremit> beagle foundation is a non-profit afaik.
May 17 03:02:53 <raspberrypifan> r they
May 17 03:02:55 <raspberrypifan> well in any case
May 17 03:02:57 <raspberrypifan> if anyone has a used one
May 17 03:03:00 <raspberrypifan> ill buy it
May 17 03:03:16 <veremit> good luck finding one someone's gonna let go of lmao!
May 17 03:03:34 <savagecreature> I'm keepin' mine and I'm on the list for the next round, too
May 17 03:03:45 <raspberrypifan> im sure there are
May 17 03:04:11 * AE7IK mutters
May 17 03:04:30 <raspberrypifan> oh lord arent u a ham
May 17 03:04:36 <AE7IK> sudo echo BB-SPI0-01 > /sys/devices/bone_campmgr.*/slots
May 17 03:04:41 <AE7IK> Permission denied
May 17 03:04:46 <AE7IK> raspberrypifan: Yes
May 17 03:04:52 <raspberrypifan> oh no ham
May 17 03:04:55 <raspberrypifan> ugh
May 17 03:05:02 <AE7IK> oh noes
May 17 03:05:18 * AE7IK lobs a bencher at raspberrypifan 
May 17 03:05:23 <raspberrypifan> huh?
May 17 03:05:33 <veremit> sudo su AE7IK
May 17 03:05:49 <veremit> you will sudo echo, but still be denied access to sys :P cos the redirect isn't sudo
May 17 03:06:05 <veremit> been there, done that ;)
May 17 03:06:06 <AE7IK> Oh... Dur
May 17 03:06:51 <AE7IK> Crap, what's the default root password?
May 17 03:07:33 <veremit> root ?
May 17 03:07:38 <veremit> or for debian . . its disabled
May 17 03:07:40 <AE7IK> For a debian install.
May 17 03:07:45 <veremit> if you "sudo su" use your user password
May 17 03:07:46 <AE7IK> Crap, so I gotta sudo passwd first?
May 17 03:07:53 <AE7IK> Oh.  Duuuuuuuh
May 17 03:07:56 <veremit> :)
May 17 03:08:03 <veremit> hehe
May 17 03:08:07 <veremit> n00b mistakes lol
May 17 03:08:22 <AE7IK> You know, if I told you I've been using linux distros since 1996, I somehow doubt you'd believe me at this point :P
May 17 03:09:24 <AE7IK> Sheesh, now what...
May 17 03:09:48 <AE7IK> Now it's saying no such file or directory...
May 17 03:09:54 <savagecreature> Yeah. I've got  a degree in computer science and I can't burn a friggin' image to an SD card.
May 17 03:10:02 <savagecreature> I'm feeling incredibly lame.
May 17 03:10:11 <AE7IK> It's friday, have a beer and make it better. :)
May 17 03:10:43 <veremit> rofl you guys .. sheesh!
May 17 03:10:48 <veremit> thought I had bad days .. ;p
May 17 03:11:43 <thurgood> what I'd give for an ftdi plug right now :/
May 17 03:12:02 <veremit> savagecreature .. give me amin and Ill get beagle sites up
May 17 03:12:12 <AE7IK> veremit: echo BB-SPI0-01 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
May 17 03:12:15 <AE7IK> bash: echo: write error: No such file or directory
May 17 03:12:47 <AE7IK> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 May 17 03:09 slots
May 17 03:12:47 <AE7IK> root@beaglebone:/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9#
May 17 03:12:55 <veremit> hmm .. check whats in that ..
May 17 03:13:00 <AE7IK> Da fudge the file doesn't doesn't exist...
May 17 03:13:00 <veremit> oh.
May 17 03:13:26 <veremit> something wrong there ;)
May 17 03:13:51 <veremit> sec whilst I ssh mine ..
May 17 03:14:12 <AE7IK> As I understand it the .9 is fairly arbitrary
May 17 03:15:04 <veremit> well I got no bonemgr period .. interesting ..
May 17 03:16:01 <AE7IK> Should be bone_capemgr.*
May 17 03:17:07 <veremit> I got nadda :( lol
May 17 03:17:08 <veremit> weird
May 17 03:17:12 <veremit> I've used it before too!
May 17 03:17:38 <AE7IK> Ah, okay, it is actually working.
May 17 03:17:56 <AE7IK> Doing it at the console shows me a syslog entry that it couldn't find the right driver.
May 17 03:18:09 <veremit> yeah I think its a virtual thingy
May 17 03:18:11 <AE7IK> So it is tickling the kernel modules as it should, just not in the right location.
May 17 03:19:09 <veremit> savagecreature .. you want a running debian image for BBB yes?
May 17 03:19:24 <veremit> AE7IK .. I used the kernel command-line optoins for cape_mgr before
May 17 03:19:24 <savagecreature> Yes.
May 17 03:19:31 <savagecreature> that I can burn to the micro SD
May 17 03:19:44 <veremit> ok.. check this wiki link .. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#BeagleBone.2FBeagleBone_Black
May 17 03:19:54 <AE7IK> Ah-hah, there we go.
May 17 03:20:08 <veremit> eh oh bloody ek
May 17 03:20:12 <AE7IK> For the latest debian install on a RevB BBB, echo BB-SPIDEV0 > slots
May 17 03:20:22 <veremit> .> slots?!
May 17 03:20:28 <AE7IK> Well, you know what I mean.
May 17 03:20:31 <veremit> lol
May 17 03:20:35 <AE7IK> /sys/blahblahblah/slots
May 17 03:20:38 <veremit> yup
May 17 03:20:48 <veremit> changed the echo?
May 17 03:21:07 <AE7IK> I was in the directory for bone_capemgr.9 as I was trying various things on the console line.
May 17 03:21:32 <veremit> hehe oops
May 17 03:21:36 <AE7IK> So now I at least have /dev/spidev1.0 and spidev1.1
May 17 03:21:41 <veremit> ok savagecreature .. lets try this again .. http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Debian_On_BeagleBone_Black
May 17 03:22:18 <veremit> I See the info is stil nicely fragmented for the BB .. great work foundation :p lol
May 17 03:22:27 <veremit> AE7IK .. I'm with ya :P
May 17 03:22:50 <AE7IK> Now to see if I can get python and the adafruit_BBIO libs to play nice.
May 17 03:23:06 <AE7IK> Because those are SO WELL DOCUMENTED.
May 17 03:23:22 <savagecreature> Okay. I'm lookin'. Thanks veremit
May 17 03:23:53 <veremit> lol no comment :P
May 17 03:24:10 <veremit> its a learning process .. thats all I'm saying
May 17 03:24:19 <veremit> some people got it .. some .. well .. need some extra help rofl :p
May 17 03:24:36 <savagecreature> It says these aren't supported by Beagleboard.org, but I thought I had read that they were shipping Debian On with BBB rev C
May 17 03:24:46 <AE7IK> Well, good documentation makes life really easy.
May 17 03:24:58 <AE7IK> I'm still debating right now if I want to do my programming in C or Python.
May 17 03:25:02 <savagecreature> Good documentation is king.
May 17 03:26:40 <veremit> savagecreature .. well if beagleboard.org can't get their documentation right .. lol .. jk.
May 17 03:26:53 <veremit> AE7IK .. depends what you wanna achieve.
May 17 03:27:34 <AE7IK> veremit: Not 100% sure at this point.
May 17 03:27:46 <AE7IK> Basically, need a gui, and SPI/ADC/GPIO access.
May 17 03:28:04 <AE7IK> We're looking at using a BBB for an indusrial functional board tester.
May 17 03:28:07 <veremit> I wanna learn python .. cos for what I often need to program . its better than perl.
May 17 03:28:31 <savagecreature> Well, see, I go to these pages in the wiki and click on a link. It takes me to another page on the wiki which is less clear. then I click on something there and it takes me to a file repository on GitHub and I can't tell what anything is
May 17 03:28:33 <AE7IK> The 'cape' we're making will have a beefy FPGA on it, with code that I'll be writing, and then we'll talk to that and the FPGA will do most of the grunt work.
May 17 03:29:05 <AE7IK> We're basically needing to replace labview.
May 17 03:29:12 <savagecreature> I write a lot of python. Tens of thousands of lines. Lots and lots.
May 17 03:29:23 <savagecreature> AE7IK:  First?
May 17 03:29:49 <savagecreature> are you trying to shoehorn a BBB in to replace a cRIO?
May 17 03:29:49 <AE7IK> Because NI sells their boards tha are used in the the current lines of testers, and it costs us 5k in just crap from NI before we even get to our designs, and all they do is have some ADC's and crap with FDTI chips.
May 17 03:30:12 <veremit> lol that sounds about right
May 17 03:30:14 <AE7IK> savagecreature: 'First'?
May 17 03:30:24 <AE7IK> This is in the high level planning stages right now.
May 17 03:30:31 <savagecreature> Nevermind. Guessed wrong. :)
May 17 03:30:34 <AE7IK> The cape is just partial schematics at this point.
May 17 03:30:47 <veremit> why use a beagle if you got a FPGA?!
May 17 03:30:54 <AE7IK> veremit: User interface.
May 17 03:31:03 <veremit> -shrug-  I guess
May 17 03:31:17 <veremit> foundation hates all these useful real-world applications we keep finding lol
May 17 03:31:23 <AE7IK> And that's why I'm thinking python + gtk or python + EFL will be easy to change quickly for the gui and other such stuff.
May 17 03:31:35 <veremit> we use Wx at work a fair bit
May 17 03:31:43 <veremit> but there's always Qt .. which is what I wanna learn also
May 17 03:32:35 <AE7IK> Each product we build a tester for might have a slightly different cape with different IO's, but fundamentally it'll have a single SPI interface back to the BBB plus maybe a few control IO's (Bring the power rails up, check them via ADC's, etc), and a GUI to control the automated tester, so a test engineer can plug a board in, press a button on the gui, and watch it go through functional testing.
May 17 03:33:00 <AE7IK> Most of the magic happens in the FPGA, defining the SPI registers, etc.
May 17 03:33:09 <savagecreature> veremit:, thanks a lot for trying to help. I'm giving up in frustration again. I'll try again when I recharge.
May 17 03:33:16 <AE7IK> We then have some other ideas for streamlinging changes to the tester as well.
May 17 03:33:33 * AE7IK gets the defib, "CLEAR!"
May 17 03:33:51 <veremit> savagecreature .. its not -that- hard .. but I guess everything's a bit fragmented.
May 17 03:34:04 <savagecreature> I can't find the image.
May 17 03:34:15 <veremit> should be ... well .. no comment.
May 17 03:34:40 <savagecreature> *chuckle* You're welcome to tell me I'm missing the obvious or must be an idiot.
May 17 03:34:42 <savagecreature> could very well be true
May 17 03:34:56 <AE7IK> savagecreature: You're trying to find the image to burn, or you just trying to find out how to burn the image?
May 17 03:34:59 <veremit> savagecreature .. this one .. https://rcn-ee.net/deb/microsd/wheezy/bone-debian-7.5-2014-05-06-2gb.img.xz
May 17 03:35:10 <veremit> AE7IK: which image, first lol
May 17 03:35:21 <veremit> then you just unzip, w32imagewriter
May 17 03:35:21 <AE7IK> beaglebone.org/latest-image/ I believe.
May 17 03:35:37 <AE7IK> Er, beagleboard.org/latest-images/
May 17 03:35:50 <savagecreature> I'm trying to find the Debian On image to burn to the 2 gig SD card
May 17 03:35:59 <veremit> Not found.
May 17 03:36:34 <AE7IK> Debian On?
May 17 03:36:54 <AE7IK> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ direct paste from my browser.
May 17 03:37:02 <veremit> http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update
May 17 03:37:05 <veremit> yeah its a mess
May 17 03:37:20 <veremit> really needs cleaning up jkridner .. hoe you're logging this!
May 17 03:37:24 <veremit> hope**
May 17 03:38:36 <savagecreature> Typo. Sorry.
May 17 03:40:28 <veremit> savagecreature .. you should (should!) be able to follow those crazy orange instructions from the beagleboard site
May 17 03:41:09 <veremit> so basicly .. get the .xz .. 7zip .. w32imagewriter .. Bam!
May 17 03:41:54 <savagecreature> Okay. I've got an image. I'll give it a try
May 17 03:43:17 <veremit> AE7IK .. sounds cool
May 17 03:44:11 <veremit> probably wanna think  about how you're gonna get a display out .. I think that uHDMI is a bit .. well .. delicate :)
May 17 03:45:15 <AE7IK> Hnn, true, but that's the current route I think.
May 17 03:45:29 <AE7IK> IIRC Thats part of what they're fixing in RevC.
May 17 03:45:43 <veremit> Pi would be an alternative
May 17 03:45:49 <veremit> I thought C was out
May 17 03:46:10 <veremit> there's definitely SPI on Pi
May 17 03:46:20 <veremit> and it'll do HD :D
May 17 03:46:27 <veremit> only 16bit on BBB
May 17 03:46:31 <veremit> I believe
May 17 03:47:21 <AE7IK> Oh, no, it'll be a BBB, no Pi's.
May 17 03:47:28 <AE7IK> That much has already been decided.
May 17 03:47:52 <veremit> lol ok
May 17 03:48:08 <veremit> do a PC interface that works acros a network connection :)
May 17 03:48:24 <veremit> yeah somethiing on a socket
May 17 03:48:39 <veremit> would probably be my approach
May 17 03:48:48 <raspberrypifan> i liek pi
May 17 03:49:25 <veremit> pi is crap .. thats all XD hehe
May 17 03:49:44 <veremit> its a cheap ARM HMI
May 17 03:50:02 <veremit> which is all it was really ever created to be
May 17 03:51:49 <raspberrypifan> but the BBB doesnt even have rca
May 17 03:54:26 <veremit> Pi doesn't have PRUs
May 17 03:54:36 <raspberrypifan> whats a pru
May 17 03:54:41 <veremit> google ;)
May 17 03:54:52 <veremit> processor-in-processor basically
May 17 03:55:02 <raspberrypifan> picture in picture?
May 17 03:55:37 <savagecreature> BBB is just functionally faster
May 17 03:55:39 <veremit> its a dedicated core for realtime code
May 17 03:55:49 <raspberrypifan> but can i watch my sports while i watch my sports
May 17 03:59:42 <raspberrypifan> anyone remember picture in picture
May 17 04:03:04 <savagecreature> Of course, I'm old
May 17 04:03:21 <veremit> yeah most set-top-boxes do it
May 17 04:03:36 <veremit> oh wait .. ofc the Pi is a set-top-box only without the box :D
May 17 04:04:22 <veremit> .. or the set .. or the top .... lol
May 17 04:11:14 <savagecreature> How large of an SD can I use on this? I need more space.
May 17 04:12:15 <savagecreature> veremit: and AE7IK , thank you both very much. I have successfully burned Debian to my SD and launched my BBB. It's still not working quite right, but i'm much closer than I was.
May 17 04:12:34 <AE7IK> savagecreature: Give it time, the erase procedure takes 15-45 minutes.
May 17 04:13:05 <AE7IK> When it's done flashing the MMC, all 4 LED"s will be on solid (Assuming you've downloaded the eMMC flashing binary)
May 17 04:13:37 <veremit> think I've heard stories of 16gb flash cards
May 17 04:13:38 <savagecreature> Oh, I wasn't flashing the mmc. I was just burning it to the SD
May 17 04:13:46 <AE7IK> Ah.
May 17 04:14:01 <savagecreature> When there's an SD present it boots from that
May 17 04:14:02 <veremit> certainly used 2/4 successfully .. 8 shouldn't be an issue .. think the SD spec changes after that
May 17 04:14:26 <savagecreature> But I get as far as loading the bg image and it freezes.
May 17 04:15:02 <AE7IK> I used a 4g for mine.
May 17 04:15:07 <AE7IK> Anyway, I should head home.
May 17 04:15:31 <savagecreature> How frustrating.
May 17 04:15:41 <veremit> savagecreature .. it might take a while ..
May 17 04:15:47 <veremit> just wait .. and see ..
May 17 04:16:07 <veremit> if the heartbeat stops .. might need to re-burn ya image
May 17 04:18:01 <savagecreature> Ta Da! Seems to be working, though the desktop is blank.
May 17 04:18:48 <savagecreature> I'm using my TV as a monitor (cause it's got HDMI input) and it appears I'm losing all the boarders of the desktop to overscan
May 17 04:19:40 <veremit> lol ah
May 17 04:20:59 <savagecreature> Debian is much slower than Angstrom
May 17 04:21:13 <veremit> yes and no
May 17 04:21:25 <veremit> its a newer build .. and its probably not optimised much yet
May 17 04:21:41 <veremit> the window manager is a pretty big overhead too
May 17 04:21:51 <veremit> I tried LXDE and that works pretty nicely
May 17 04:22:29 <savagecreature> What's it using as issued?
May 17 04:22:31 <savagecreature> Gnome?
May 17 04:22:51 <veremit> not sure .. never tried the stock
May 17 04:23:03 <veremit> the angstrom one seemed heavy
May 17 04:24:38 <savagecreature> Well, thank you again for the help
May 17 04:24:41 <savagecreature> I've got it working onw
May 17 04:24:42 <savagecreature> now
May 17 04:24:49 <savagecreature> now;d
May 17 04:24:53 <savagecreature> :D
May 17 04:25:00 <veremit> np
May 17 04:25:10 <veremit> and on that happy note .. I should go nap before it gets light .. lol
May 17 04:54:02 <mike> hello
May 17 04:54:23 <Guest81746> no i didnt
May 17 04:56:34 <dizzy0ny> has anyone used a bbb with one a sabertooth 2x12 motor controller?  http://www.dimensionengineering.com/datasheets/Sabertooth2x12.pdf
May 17 04:59:50 <dizzy0ny> irc was such a lively place....20 years ago.  damn social media! damn u!
May 17 05:01:41 <flufmnstr> yep, things have slowed down here in the bowels of the internet
May 17 05:17:19 <AE7IK> LXDE first struck me as 'ew suck'
May 17 05:17:31 <AE7IK> I immediately popped in icewm and was like 'ahhh, much better...'
May 17 06:02:28 <ds2> hmm
May 17 12:13:48 <varad_> Hi, this must be a redundant question but I can't fund the answer anywhere - How do I bridge my laptop's WiFi to my BeagleBone Black over USB or Ethernet? I read at a lot of places that brctl won't bridge a wlan connection, Is there an alternate? Thanks.
May 17 15:41:35 <anujdeshpande> anyone else got the tre developer board ?
May 17 15:41:43 <anujdeshpande> i was wondering when they are sending invites to the beta tester program
May 17 17:33:36 <Tork2> Hi, I have a problem, I just install Debian 7.5(2014-05-06)  on my BBB, and I have no idea of the root password. (debian/tempwd is a user)
May 17 17:34:02 <Tork2> *2014-05-15
May 17 17:41:32 <Tork2> And this version is very weird, there is no nodejs or cloud9, apache is installed, but /var/www is empty
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May 17 18:00:26 <_SY_> hello all
May 17 18:01:08 <_SY_> Can anyone help me with a problem with Java and RXTX ?
May 17 19:50:46 <tdillio> So I did something stupid and accidentially blew away pretty much everything on the internal mmc chip, which inturn seems to prevent booting from the SD card
May 17 19:52:58 <tdillio> Will booting into the magic "recovery image" actually help me since I blew away the fat32 boot parition on the mmc?
May 17 20:49:04 <heeen> scriptencoding utf-8
May 17 20:49:15 <heeen> [    0.000000] Kernel command line: console=ttyO0,115200n8 capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc ip=
May 17 20:49:21 <heeen> bit it still loaded the capes
May 17 20:49:24 <heeen> what gives
May 17 20:49:45 <veremit> check dmesg?
May 17 20:50:21 <veremit> cape-mgr should tell you its logic ..
May 17 21:04:09 <heeen> veremit: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=c0aumAwp
May 17 21:04:22 <heeen> it sees the disable opts
May 17 21:04:29 <heeen> bit ignores it due to eprom?
May 17 21:05:14 <veremit> I'd say those closing statements of "skipping loading XYZ" looks fine to me ;)
May 17 21:05:23 <heeen> ooh
May 17 21:05:33 <heeen> missing L means not loaded
May 17 21:05:50 <heeen> Every line shows something like “P-O-L” or “P-O–”. The letter “L” means the Cape is enabled; no letter “L” means that it is disabled
May 17 21:05:54 <heeen> right
May 17 21:06:09 <heeen> I expected it to not show up at all
May 17 21:06:52 <veremit> I guess it still 'knows' about stuff because its detected via i2c isn't it?
May 17 21:07:23 <veremit> there's a eeprom onboard the beagle baseboard so the driver knows what it -should- be doing. otherwise how does it know!?
May 17 21:08:07 <heeen> hardcoded into the kernel?
May 17 21:08:13 <veremit> not any more :D
May 17 21:08:29 <heeen> hey, do you know by chance about pinmux mode values
May 17 21:08:42 <veremit> noo ... that stuff is in a Reference Manual somewhere
May 17 21:08:48 <heeen> what does the IDIS and IEN bit mean
May 17 21:08:51 <heeen> hm k
May 17 21:09:02 <veremit> and you probably wanna refresh on device-tree too if thats te case :)
May 17 21:09:07 <veremit> I never did crack DT
May 17 21:48:29 <heeen> which device do mmc0 mmc1 and mmc2 correspond to
May 17 21:48:42 <heeen> emmc, usd slot and not connected
May 17 21:49:27 <veremit> whatever devices are detected first :D
May 17 21:49:31 <veremit> there's no fixed designation
May 17 21:49:35 <heeen> no as in the pins
May 17 21:49:48 <heeen> I guess I have to consult the schematic
May 17 21:49:51 <veremit> whatever devices are detected first :D
May 17 21:49:53 <veremit> there's no fixed designation
May 17 21:50:10 <veremit> it can be eMMC, AND it can be uSD
May 17 21:50:18 <heeen> they have to be wired somehow
May 17 21:50:21 <veremit> it depends which devices are detected on boot
May 17 21:50:24 <veremit> Nope. they don't.
May 17 21:50:51 <veremit> they're defined by the boot device as mmcblk0
May 17 21:50:54 <veremit> the next is mmcblk1
May 17 21:51:01 <veremit> probably in uboot I'd guess
May 17 21:51:11 <heeen> I am talking about pins
May 17 21:51:16 <heeen> not block devices or whatever
May 17 21:51:18 <veremit> much like the first hard disk in a computer is sda1
May 17 21:51:21 <veremit> ah ..
May 17 21:51:28 <veremit> those probably are wired :D
May 17 21:51:51 <veremit> but I'd say it matters Less for the reasons already outlined :D
May 17 21:52:07 <veremit> i don't believe there is a way to do device/pin mapping
May 17 21:52:47 <heeen> it does matter if you are restricted to a certain set of pins you want to use
May 17 21:52:56 <heeen> but don't want to break emmc or something
May 17 21:56:33 <heeen> ok so mmc0_* are the uSD connector
May 17 21:57:37 <heeen> mmc1_* is the emmc
May 17 22:57:27 <jyan> is anyone able to offer up some help on building a cross toolchain for beagle?  I'm looking at the angstrom setup-scripts but I can't figure out how to build just the toolchain
May 18 01:49:54 <pzn> anyone had success in connecting a huawei 3g usb to BeagleBoneBlack?
May 18 01:50:07 <pzn> I can connect with kernel 3.8.13 and 3.11.0
May 18 01:50:35 <pzn> but the baudrate reaches incrible 9600bps :-) too dawn slow... any hints?
May 18 01:50:47 <veremit> hmm funny .. I am gonna try that later this year
May 18 01:51:01 <veremit> you've got it in modem mode
May 18 01:51:16 <veremit> done the usb_modeswitch thingy?
May 18 01:51:23 <pzn> using same ubuntu version/kernel/connect parameters at desktop computer, it reaches good speed
May 18 01:51:27 <veremit> I thought it Just Worked.
May 18 01:51:42 <veremit> on ppp
May 18 01:51:54 <pzn> veremit, didn't do modeswitch in Beagle, and didn't do modeswitch on desktop. yes, I'm using ppp
May 18 01:52:30 <veremit> I'm tryin to think whether I plugged it into debian .. guess I did once .. but its running on a standalone ARM wifi router thingy atm
May 18 01:52:43 <veremit> gonna move it to my beagle so I can use SMS on it for usage notifications
May 18 01:53:03 <veremit> I figured it just worked though ..
May 18 01:53:17 <pzn> nice idea about SMS notification... do you think should I do modeswitch? when I plug, it already detects /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 and respond to AT commands normally
May 18 01:53:22 <veremit> which one you got?
May 18 01:53:26 <veremit> mine's the E173
May 18 01:53:30 <pzn> huawei E156
May 18 01:53:56 <pzn> but lsusb shows:  12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E230/E270/E870 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
May 18 01:54:23 <veremit> do update-pciids :)
May 18 01:55:51 <pzn> veremit, do I need to apply something? unplugged -> update-pciids -> plugged. same text is shows
May 18 01:57:10 <veremit> hmm can't remember the backend ..but the web front is kalkun :)
May 18 01:58:02 <veremit> debian/angstrom pzn?
May 18 01:58:20 <pzn> veremit, I already saw kalkun. really nice! I friend runs it at my work
May 18 01:58:34 <pzn> veremit, tried with debian and ubuntu
May 18 01:59:59 <new_user> hi, i am having a problem in booting the BBB with wince installed on the SD card using TI disk utility program
May 18 02:00:13 <new_user> Can anybody help me please
May 18 02:00:37 <veremit> you really want to run wince on a beagle?
May 18 02:00:53 <veremit> really?
May 18 02:01:05 <new_user> When i plug in the SD card and power up the board one the last three LED's get on
May 18 02:01:21 <new_user> yes....i want to try installing wince
May 18 02:02:22 <new_user> I have wince 6.0 with the help file indicating how to install wince..and have followed it exactly but get the same response...please help
May 18 02:03:09 <veremit> pzn .. have you set up some options for ppp ? I can see a couple of posts with options & peers/chat files
May 18 02:03:20 <veremit> but so far just for angstrom
May 18 02:03:38 <veremit> And I know it works for debian
May 18 02:03:45 <veremit> have you got the right ttyUSB?
May 18 02:04:16 <new_user> with armstrong it is working fine...i also updated with latest version by booting from sd card and it worked
May 18 02:05:09 <new_user> when i place the SD card and power up the board , after some time only three last led's light up...
May 18 02:05:31 <new_user> this was not the case with armstrong
May 18 02:05:35 <veremit> new_user .. I'm not aware wince has configuration/drivers for the beagle.
May 18 02:05:41 <pzn> veremit, it connects, ping, run for a long time (has been connected for about 2 hours). it is just too slow
May 18 02:05:42 <veremit> but I could be wrong.
May 18 02:06:00 <veremit> pzn .. at 9600 I would think so .. should be MUCH faster than that
May 18 02:06:24 <pzn> veremit, I got a usbmon debug tool. it is showing that the peak speed in the usb port is 9600
May 18 02:06:33 <new_user> ok....i will try that....but is there any error massage displayed by the three led's getting solid on
May 18 02:06:48 <veremit> pzn .. can you pastebin your ppp/options?
May 18 02:07:02 <pzn> veremit, 9600 is too slow... my first dial-up modem 10+ years ago was 14400 :-)
May 18 02:07:06 <new_user> ok...wait let me see
May 18 02:08:29 <pzn> veremit, http://pastebin.com/sVFz3hJP
May 18 02:09:11 <veremit> pzn .. just reading this .. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/3G_and_GPRS_modems_with_pppd
May 18 02:09:20 <veremit> all specify a baud rate
May 18 02:09:57 <new_user> actually the problem is not with the serial port....i just cannot get the beaglebone boot up wih wince
May 18 02:10:25 <new_user> bcause if that was the problem then how does it get booted with armstrong
May 18 02:17:48 <veremit> pzn .. not sure what role netcfg is playing in that Arch howto
May 18 02:18:18 <pzn> veremit, reading your URL... reproducing in my hardware exactly how it is
May 18 02:19:06 <veremit> I see lots of implementations with wvdial too :/
May 18 02:19:12 <veremit> dunno what the merits of that are
May 18 02:19:26 <veremit> also found .. http://gcolpart.evolix.net/blog21/sfr-huawei-3g-usb-key-with-debian/
May 18 02:21:14 <veremit> omg the Pi abomination .. http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-as-a-3g-Huawei-E303-wireless-Edima/step1/Make-sure-the-Pi-can-see-the-3g-Dongle/
May 18 02:21:24 <veremit> thats gonna be nasty lol
May 18 02:22:13 <veremit> and good old sakis3g .. which you don't need .. imo.
May 18 02:23:47 <veremit> if you can figure out what settings ubuntu is using for ppp ..
May 18 02:37:32 <pzn> veremit, I don't know exactly why, but it worked!!!
May 18 02:37:53 <veremit> hehe thought there must be something missing
May 18 02:38:05 <veremit> hopefully I can make mine go easily too :)
May 18 02:38:10 <pzn> but I did md5sum between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu BB
May 18 02:38:34 <veremit> Gammu is the SMSd
May 18 02:39:14 <pzn> veremit, weird, I'll check what was the reason tomorrow... I must take a break... working during 10 hours continously...
May 18 02:39:29 <pzn> veremit, thank you very much on your help!!!
May 18 02:39:31 <veremit> ouch yea
May 18 02:39:32 <veremit> welcomes
May 18 02:40:40 <pzn> veremit++
May 18 02:40:45 <pzn> bye
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