**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 18 02:59:59 2014 May 18 03:07:40 hi....i have tried win7ce and it worked...thanks anyway May 18 03:13:30 anyone selling a used beaglebone May 18 03:25:24 raspberrypifan: there are $100 ones on amazon May 18 03:25:33 thats ridiculous May 18 03:25:39 the hardware was designed to sell at 45 May 18 03:25:41 i am not paying a cent more May 18 03:25:43 its not worth it May 18 03:25:47 or is it 35 May 18 03:26:01 * veremit just laughs at raspberrypifan May 18 03:26:08 45, but rev C are more expensive.. May 18 03:26:15 and any used one is also going to be $100 May 18 03:26:15 i dont want/need rev c May 18 03:29:57 any in stock, including used seem to be about $100 right now May 18 03:31:05 thats a huge failure of capitalism right there May 18 03:32:10 lol May 18 03:32:19 bwahahahaha May 18 03:32:48 its called supply and demand.... the cornerstone of capitalism May 18 03:33:25 thats bad May 18 03:34:02 thats capitalisms May 18 03:34:33 im a non capital May 18 08:30:42 Is there a way to bridge my laptop's WiFi internet connection to a BBB connected over USB or Ethernet? brctl does not allow bridging wlan connections... May 18 08:33:37 yes May 18 08:35:25 nyt-: alright. what is it? May 18 08:45:08 well what os are you using May 18 08:47:39 openSUSE (KDE) host May 18 09:03:40 well bridging the interfaces doesnt automatically enable forwarding and such May 18 09:03:52 turn on forwarding and proxy arp and itshould work May 18 09:54:04 hi. did anyone tried to run a qt opengl application on bbb? May 18 10:06:19 hi i m new in arm linux. if i buy board then i required cross compiler , Uimage, linux kernel, etc all these item beagle will provide?. i am using ubuntu 12.4 May 18 10:07:36 beagle could provide any CD for that May 18 10:16:42 yes it will work May 18 10:30:12 tbr: did you mean me? May 18 10:30:55 spessx: both May 18 10:32:15 well, i'm trying to run the hellogl_es2 example since some days, but can't get it working. graphics sdk examples (evilskull, chameleonman, etc.) run like a charm. May 18 10:32:30 just wanted to post to the google groups, but maybe you could help me right here? May 18 11:08:03 spessx: never done anything with the SGX/GLES stuff May 18 11:10:31 oh, no problem... it's driving me crazy. maybe anyone else could help me? here's my complete problem description: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/beagleboard/beaglebone-black/bZZ2Ly6FLFo May 18 12:27:01 Hi there May 18 12:28:27 I currently try to get my BeagleBoard xM working with omap, but neither angstrom, nor ubuntu will work. Do you guys know any good tutorials that work on the current versions? May 18 12:32:01 Dennis_: github.com/RobertCNelson/netinstall.git will make an ubuntu netinstall SD which will just work (tm) May 18 12:33:50 Thanks for your reply! I was able to get a fresh ubuntu 14.04 working. But my main problem is omap / sgx support. It just wont work May 18 12:35:07 do you know if there where any changes made in this repo such that omap and sgx might work? May 18 12:38:03 Dennis_: sgx is a finnicky beast you might need to find some ancient image which works May 18 12:41:12 what a pity, i thought that usually the plattform support enhances over time May 18 12:41:32 not if it concerns unmaintained binary vendor blobs May 18 12:42:23 even the prebuild angstrom image on my board does not work. I tryed to install and start xbmc but it fails without any further debug messages May 18 12:42:49 basically SGX is a lost cause May 18 12:43:03 those who could do open source drivers cant because we have NDAs May 18 12:43:20 and the newest version on the beagleboard websites is a 2012 version, which wont even connect to opkg repos anymore May 18 12:43:40 damn :( May 18 12:45:44 i found an image seeded by torrents. But there is only one seed left. Do you have any hints for me where i might find an old working image? May 18 12:46:39 Dennis_: as soon as you upgrade though, SGX will break so you are stuck with old image forever May 18 12:48:57 well... thats pretty bad news May 18 12:49:36 Imagination Technology have zero interest in working with Linux community May 18 12:52:19 what a shame. The Linux teams usually do awesome work May 18 12:53:03 i have experimented with a via epia sn board years ago and they got even padlock AES encryption support working! May 18 12:53:24 that litte beast did awesome performance :) May 18 12:56:44 Allright, Thanks for your information. I will bury this project then. Maybe i find any use for this board. At least the basic ubuntu versions are working =) May 18 14:42:46 hi, I got an old baeagleboard rev C4 and want to install an fresh linux on it. I follow some tutorials over the net but I'm stuck. No serial at all. I write ubuntu 12.04 in a SD card and booted holding USER but no progress, just a screen flash and then off. my first doubt is how I can see the serial output? May 18 14:42:59 my minicon is 115200 8N1 May 18 14:43:55 but it's "offline" May 18 14:44:39 pfsmorigo: github.com/RobertCNelson/netinstall.git should sort you out May 18 14:44:50 as long as you have a USB network card May 18 14:45:45 XorA: my board has a beaglebuddy zippy so there is a RJ45 there May 18 14:46:11 XorA: do you know why my serial doesn't work? May 18 14:46:21 pfsmorigo: I do not know if that u-boot/kernel combo support the zippy May 18 14:46:33 pfsmorigo: that is normally a sign that your card is formatted wrong May 18 15:14:51 Hi, anyone there??? I need help with my BBB May 18 15:15:14 http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html May 18 15:15:39 k, I will look that up.. thx May 18 15:17:49 thx. bye. May 18 15:18:04 lol? May 18 15:18:20 hahaha May 18 15:18:31 well if its that easy to filter the n00bs .. lol May 18 15:44:41 hello , how can i install xchat on beaglebone black - angestorm ? May 18 15:45:16 apt-get install xchat May 18 15:45:19 oh wait May 18 15:45:22 debian .. lol May 18 15:45:39 opkg -i xchat? bet it doesn' exist .. bloody angstrom. May 18 15:46:06 yep , thats right. so can i add some repo in angstorm ? for xchat May 18 15:46:13 or any irc client May 18 15:46:20 scratch the beagle and put debian on it ;) May 18 15:46:37 and i can flash it in the nand flash ? May 18 15:46:51 yup .. shuold be a flasher debian image on the beagleboard site May 18 15:47:10 thanks mate. May 18 15:47:13 np May 18 15:47:26 angstrom such a headache unless you want a minimal embedded system May 18 15:47:32 other question , why beaglebone black is rare in the market ? :( May 18 15:47:44 very high demand, limited supply May 18 15:47:55 or rather .. limited production capacity to date May 18 15:48:06 cant find it in any comercial store , yet if i found one it is expensive. May 18 15:48:18 yea gotta order and wait May 18 15:48:32 should be much more coming in now element14 got theirs comin along May 18 15:48:50 from the distributors ? they sell it expensive too May 18 15:48:55 circuitco were only making 500-700/week and with orders of 000s ... May 18 15:49:15 should be ~$40-60 (dependin on version) May 18 15:49:41 I haven't seen pricing for RevC yet .. *goes to look* May 18 15:50:11 hmmm May 18 15:50:22 the latest version is rev C or B ? May 18 15:51:10 revC .. comes with 4G eMMC not 2 May 18 15:51:23 pricing £35 here in UK May 18 15:51:40 awaiting delivery though May 18 15:51:51 hmmm , thanks May 18 15:53:44 where ya based? May 18 16:04:48 where i what ? May 18 16:05:39 where are ya in the world? May 18 16:06:04 kuwait - middle east May 18 16:06:21 hmm just found an uber-low-cost board .. someone was asking for a bare silicon board without the periphs .. Kinetis KL25Z .. £8 May 18 16:06:30 ah ok May 18 16:29:02 veremit , about the freescale embedded board, can i do home automation with it ? May 18 16:29:31 depends what ya wanna do lol May 18 16:30:15 thats for the link. May 18 16:31:39 you can do home automation with the arduino May 18 16:31:54 there's lots of boards out there at lost of cost/complexity levels May 18 16:33:43 lots* May 18 16:36:56 thanks alot. May 18 16:37:04 np May 18 17:07:56 Well, wtf. May 18 17:08:14 I install pyside and run out of space on my bbb. May 18 17:10:12 lol May 18 17:10:17 it ain't no server ffs :P lol May 18 17:10:38 assuming eMMC not uSD .. May 18 17:10:50 really should use uSD for large apps May 18 17:11:21 Well, I guess I'm not going to use my mouse now. May 18 17:13:05 lol May 18 17:13:11 Cat got my lap May 18 17:32:22 maybe now someone's online with sgx/ogles and qt experiences on bbb? i can't believe it's so hard to add hardware acceleration to qt... May 18 19:15:49 veremit: it ain't a server? I know someone who has an rpi sitting (or hanging I think) in some data center as server, so why not? ;-) May 18 19:16:02 lol May 18 19:16:03 ooook May 18 19:16:07 whatever floats. May 18 19:16:28 I guess it makes a good hdmi front-end :) May 18 20:11:48 question, im using black but having usb hot plug issues, the usb devices dissapear after i unplug and replug them in unless i reboot.. any thoughts or fixes? May 18 20:13:10 running this version Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone47 #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux May 18 20:21:49 its known May 18 20:22:05 and no easy chance for you to solve it May 18 20:42:21 upgrade to newer kernel May 18 20:42:26 usb is better May 18 20:42:55 the latest i can find is 3.8.13 build 49.. but not sure if thats fixed in that build? May 18 20:43:22 i read using lsusb -v can fix the issue, not sure why the verbose flag works but odd May 18 20:43:57 no .. its a bug I've experienced personally .. and tlaking to various ppl .. the driver in that version is just really shit May 18 20:44:10 thats the technical Shit :) May 18 20:44:42 I understand it was repurposed from another device .. so its quite a bit broken May 18 20:45:15 what version should i try then? before i go digging though the whole internet :) May 18 20:45:27 some fixes have been made to newer kernels .. there should be 3.12 sources around .. possibly you need to go to eewiki.net/linuxonarm and check the BeagleboneBlack page there May 18 20:45:35 I've built most of my images from his instructions May 18 20:45:50 im using this. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian May 18 20:45:55 ah May 18 20:46:06 yes the documentation is a little .. fragmented lol May 18 20:46:14 yea all over the place May 18 20:46:24 http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black May 18 20:46:27 well i can try build 49, since i have 47, but always something May 18 20:46:57 you're familiar with building a kernel? May 18 20:47:09 yea i have, its not something i want to do.. May 18 20:47:30 hmm .. the instructions on that site are fairly easy to follow if you got a linux host to do it May 18 20:48:29 bit of downloading to do .. the rest is .. go make a cup of coffee/etc :) May 18 20:48:30 im looking at this.. seems pretty simple http://datko.net/2014/03/21/bbb_upgrade_3_13/ May 18 20:48:33 done it quite a few times May 18 20:48:40 3.13 much better? May 18 20:49:25 ah the capemgr is Mising in 3.13 .. I Seee ...... May 18 20:49:29 not been ported yet :/ May 18 20:50:26 so i should not try 3.13? sorry way to much info here trying to figure out best approach May 18 20:50:30 personally .. I wouldn't build it on the beagle .. I would go for an x86 system .. will be much faster May 18 20:50:49 3.12/3.13 .. I guess RN has updated .. he's been instrumental in the debian transition with the beagle foundation May 18 20:51:05 oh wait .. eat my words .. 3.14 May 18 20:51:09 i think 3.14 for bone is out ? May 18 20:51:29 question 1) do you need cape support? May 18 20:51:43 if not .. 3.14 is way to go .. if Yes .. you're stuck with 3.8 May 18 20:52:10 i only need usbhot plug support May 18 20:52:29 err usb hotplug support, its the only thing im trying to solve May 18 20:52:41 yea best go for >3.12 ie. 3.13or 14 May 18 20:52:53 k, cheers ill try a update see what happens :) May 18 20:52:53 its still not perfect .. but nothing Like as bad as 3.8 May 18 20:53:04 3.8 was dismal lol May 18 20:53:56 thanks May 18 20:54:59 g/l :) May 18 22:38:22 Hi guys, any chance anyone knows the differences between revs A* and C* of the Beagle xM? May 18 22:38:28 i.e. are there errata? May 18 22:44:34 bjackman .. should be on the beagleboard pages .. May 18 22:45:00 or failing that .. elinux.org May 18 22:45:47 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoard-xM#Hardware_Design_Files May 18 22:46:27 also: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Community May 18 23:03:04 Hi, my beaglebone black of maybe 6 months old flashes the power led on power up May 18 23:03:25 you killed it, didn't you ... :P~ May 18 23:03:37 according to the documentation it detected an over current May 18 23:03:41 power/signal on pins before the beagle powered up? May 18 23:03:46 veremit: OK, thanks, I'll take a look May 18 23:04:12 JustRob .. I think thre was a PMIC reset you could do May 18 23:04:19 how can I fix it? what options do I have? May 18 23:04:24 but if the processor got fried .. RMA :) May 18 23:05:18 a pmic reset? May 18 23:05:57 I didn't see anything in the srm May 18 23:06:59 i designed a cape that provided the power through the expansion pins May 18 23:07:49 now I can't get it to power up or boot via usb to my desktop with no cape May 18 23:08:36 sounds about right May 18 23:08:49 damn chip is stupid sensitive about power sequence May 18 23:09:40 I think gerald posted some trick somwehre .. googling. May 18 23:09:42 ok, so i'll google pmic reset then probably rma it May 18 23:13:07 iirc it involved powering the beagle with a switch pressed .. only I can't find now which one .. May 18 23:52:48 can anyone tell me if the uefi spec inhibits the booting of a dos fat32 partition May 18 23:58:21 the white paper is unclear May 19 00:09:12 does anyone know what the uefi spcification is May 19 00:32:57 cdoes anyone know what the uefi specification is May 19 00:59:38 does anyone know of a video guide on how to install Debian on the older BBBs? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 19 02:59:58 2014