**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 19 02:59:58 2014 May 19 03:02:17 anyone selling a used one May 19 03:36:24 i have a pi for sale May 19 03:36:29 lol May 19 03:36:30 for how much May 19 03:44:27 im kidding May 19 03:44:35 oh May 19 07:20:43 hi! May 19 07:21:25 i have a (maybe stupid) question. what is the difference between the regular bealgebone black and the beaglebone black embest? May 19 07:21:30 same hardware but a different vendor? May 19 07:22:28 afaik yes May 19 07:23:38 i'm asking because most bbb are out of stock except the embest verion :) May 19 08:15:02 HI, i need angstrom toolchain including qt 4.7.1 - does anybody have it? May 19 08:16:47 the file is named "angstrom-v20110117-x86_64-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte-4.7.1.tar.bz2" May 19 08:16:53 bye! May 19 08:18:12 since the angstrom site was down the file is offline. has anybody a copy loaded and is willing to share it with me? May 19 08:58:15 HI, i need angstrom toolchain including qt 4.7.1 - does anybody have it? May 19 08:58:23 the file is named "angstrom-v20110117-x86_64-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte-4.7.1.tar.bz2" May 19 09:15:13 Ben__: https://www.google.com/search?q=angstrom-v20110117-x86_64-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte-4.7.1.tar.bz2 May 19 09:15:51 Ben__: but why, in the name of av500, do you need a toolchain that is older than the methusalems sandals? May 19 09:16:25 greetings, kiwi! May 19 09:58:34 OK, were do I find th most recent toolchain? I simply need QT >= 4.7... Any newer will aso be fine! May 19 09:59:24 what are you running, on which board? May 19 09:59:40 I'm running angstrom on BBB May 19 10:01:20 that should have Qt May 19 10:01:53 Koth: of course I googled the name of the tar.gz file. I dowenloded the file extracted it to root, but I was not able to compile using QtCreator May 19 10:02:43 tbr: I know, but my toolchain only has qt 3.8, i need the toolchain with at least qt 4.7 May 19 10:07:27 hello to all May 19 10:09:53 OK guys. To become clear: Were do I find an recent angstrom toolchain including qt embedded >= 4.7 ? May 19 10:13:01 i would be surprised if angström didnt have qt already in the toolchain May 19 10:13:10 maybe you need to edit the build config a bit May 19 10:13:14 but that should be easy May 19 10:19:39 there should be a matching SDK that you can generate using narcissus May 19 10:37:04 tbr: thank you for the hint. I've narcissus already forgotten. since the angstrom site was offline. now it is totally different and ther are no links to narcissus and package browser. May 19 10:37:17 does anybody know what happened to the angstrom site? May 19 10:49:15 Ben__: i could send you my documentation how to setup qt 4.8.5 (should also work with the latest 4.8.6) on angstrom May 19 10:49:47 spessx: that would be cool May 19 10:53:22 Ben__: ok, i have to translate it first.. (except you can read german?) May 19 10:54:08 deutsch ist ok May 19 10:57:10 ich kämpfe schon seit ein paar Tagen mit meinem BBönchen wegen dem Problem... May 19 10:58:19 let's better speak english here.. ;) May 19 10:58:22 http://www.von-kannen.net/downloads/InstallProtokoll.pdf May 19 10:58:32 ok May 19 10:58:57 well, i'm trying since one week or so to get qt with sgx/ogles support working :( day and night.. no success May 19 11:00:03 so I'm in advance I#m trying only duning working hours *g* May 19 11:00:56 but I'm not so deep into qt development (just starteed with that) May 19 11:01:21 hello anyone using the MAXIM 98089 codec with beaglebone? need kernel drivers for i2s etc May 19 11:03:19 Ben__: yeah qt is nice, unless you want hardware acceleration with sgx ;) May 19 11:03:30 could you download my pdf? May 19 11:04:06 thanks for the document I just fly with my eyes over it . looks promising May 19 11:04:21 it'll work 100% ;) May 19 11:05:51 i will try. I hope debian wheezy will be no big difference as a VM May 19 11:06:27 it shouldn't May 19 11:06:35 x86 or x64? May 19 11:06:57 x86 May 19 11:07:04 ok May 19 11:08:34 i already have an angstrom toolchain installed so i will have to rename the old one, or is there any way to use both of them (I need the other one for a different project using stamp modul) May 19 11:09:46 just use the installed one.. should also work May 19 11:10:49 in appendix a you have to set the qmake_* values to your toolchains cc and linker May 19 11:11:04 but what will happen to my other project when I building using my modiefied toolchain? I need to keep it the same than my collegues May 19 11:11:59 we currently have 2011.3 May 19 11:12:52 ? the toolchain just provides compiler, linker, etc... when you use it with qt 4.8.6, it will only compile and link the files in the qt-4.8.6 directory and nothing else May 19 11:12:56 source exchange should be ok. if you exchange binaries, they have to be compiled against the same library versions May 19 11:13:38 oh ok, misunderstood May 19 11:13:42 sure, we only exchange sources. May 19 11:15:54 hopefully i will not check anything to our svn repo which does not compile on my collegues machines. so maybee its perhaps better to keep a copy of our normal toolchain May 19 11:16:50 well, if you check out everything from source and recompile, then worst thing that can happen is that you use features of a newer lib that is not available in your collegues code May 19 11:17:05 but unless you have largly divergin versions, this should not be a problem May 19 11:17:22 uha svn May 19 11:17:29 by the way is there a simple command to find out which qt version is in the toolchain? I'm using this statement at the moment "grep -rnw ./ -e "#define QT_VERSION"" May 19 11:18:08 * KotH has no idea May 19 11:18:14 woglinde: still better than VSS :) May 19 11:18:53 woglinde: and git is something most comercial programmers have a hard time to deal with... "what? there is no central repository? how so do i know i'm buildign the official version????" May 19 11:19:11 koth haha lol May 19 11:19:25 woglinde: seriously... May 19 11:19:39 of course the build server or the review server builds it May 19 11:19:53 woglinde: 5y after we introduced svn in our company, i'm still explaining the difference between local changes in the working copy and changes on the server repo May 19 11:19:56 or better the review server triggers the build server to build it May 19 11:20:11 woglinde: does not work as well with cute embedded nonsense hacks May 19 11:20:29 woglinde: especially if i dont get the time to set up such a system May 19 11:20:29 koth o.O May 19 11:20:40 it costs time which noone pays for May 19 11:20:45 okay yes setup costs my 3 day now May 19 11:20:53 because of shitty documentation May 19 11:21:14 but I am in the buildmanagment team and we have some puppet for it which I will extend May 19 11:22:37 KotH would search another job *g*, where sane swe is honored May 19 11:24:49 anyone knows why robert c. nelson sets FB=0 in his sgx-building-script on linux-dev v3.12 branch? (https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/blob/am33x-v3.12/sgx_build_modules.sh#L272 ) May 19 11:26:48 spessx: maybe beaglemom knows May 19 11:26:54 spessx: but he is not here May 19 11:28:08 k thx, i'll watch his nick ;) May 19 11:28:43 before i totally freak out.. damn qt/sgx :( May 19 11:29:21 spessx: his nick is "jkrinder" ;) May 19 11:29:37 * KotH hands spessx some chocolate May 19 11:30:14 thx ;) May 19 11:31:30 i really can't understand why it's so hard to add proper support for hardware acceleration?! especially when they advertise with it (ok, but maybe it's an qt problem, sgx examples are working after some hours :P) May 19 11:32:01 hw accell is always pain May 19 11:33:26 yeah... May 19 11:35:19 first thing i do, is publishing a setup documentation when everything is working :P actually, there are one or two "descriptions" online, but they're confusing and/or too old May 19 12:45:01 Help. BBB how to connect Xbee ? May 19 12:56:16 SPI May 19 12:56:18 or USB May 19 12:56:20 or I2C May 19 12:56:25 depends on your xbee module I would say May 19 12:57:54 i would say, you'd have to use connectors and wires May 19 13:28:40 Help. I have a BBB with Linux angstrom and a XBee with Xbee Explorer. Need help to connect. anyone? May 19 13:29:58 https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+xbee+explorer May 19 13:30:58 Larry and Segey deliver as usual May 19 13:31:35 and for the even lazier http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beaglebone+xbee+explorer :-) May 19 13:33:47 the other one is more lazy for me May 19 13:40:18 no lmgtf alias in irssi yet? ;) May 19 13:56:44 rev C came out today ? May 19 14:16:08 BBB and Xbee, how to? anyone? May 19 14:16:36 15:29:58<@av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+xbee+explorer May 19 14:19:15 tbr: ENOTENOUGHEXACTSTEPS May 19 14:28:46 no such file on BBB May 19 14:28:57 when i run /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/uart1_txd May 19 14:29:36 i'm trying to follow this: http://www.jerome-bernard.com/blog/2012/06/04/beaglebone-serial-ports-and-xbees/ May 19 14:29:37 ah yes, thats old information May 19 14:29:50 musix the uart works differently now May 19 14:29:57 but google has the answer to that too May 19 14:30:11 https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+black+uart May 19 14:44:54 zze: Shamles plug: I made a BeagleBone to Xbee adapter here: http://cryptotronix.com/products/beaglebee/ May 19 14:45:24 I didn't put an EEPROM on it, so you'd still have to follow the examples to enable the UART, in this case UART4 May 19 14:46:48 Although in recent images the UART dtbos are in /lib/firmware, so you can just "echo BB-UART4 | sudo tee /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots" May 19 14:48:28 I also have an Xbee explorer, but I feel one should be able to program the entire radio from the BBB. I mean all the Xbee explorer is an FTDI USB -> serial bridge May 19 14:49:08 Maybe there is something in XCTU one needs to change the firmware from a router to coordinator… I don't know May 19 14:49:12 * jbdatko ends rant :) May 19 15:02:36 anyone know if latest debian release for bbb has asoc kernel module included? May 19 15:04:04 thats special alsa system on a chip drivers May 19 17:21:50 anyone recommend a BBB distro that hotplug usb works with? May 19 17:22:35 hotplug ist not a distro problem May 19 17:22:38 run latest debian or angstrom and pray to your favourite imaginary friend May 19 17:23:31 Defiant what do you mean its not a distro prob, is it more than hw or ? im trying to track it down cause i just got my bbb May 19 17:23:47 its kernel stuff May 19 17:24:47 if you just got your BBB, then I'd recommend to go with the latest debian image May 19 17:26:04 the latest image has kernel 3.8 which what im hearing isnt the best.. May 19 17:26:30 I did see in /opt/tools a update kernel script but was weary to run it.. suggestions? May 19 17:26:55 3.8 got a lot of love May 19 17:27:10 not sure what the consensus is, which kernel to run May 19 17:27:22 If you want more recent, then angstrom might work May 19 17:27:34 yea every time I unplug a usb device and replug it in, then no more usb .. have to reboot .. :/ May 19 17:27:56 try having a hub inbetween May 19 17:28:13 IIRC that's a known problem. musb strikes once again May 19 17:28:20 tbr: yea no dice May 19 17:28:43 tried many combos, next route is variou kernel tests :/ May 19 17:29:12 well thanks and crap.. hmm not sure what route i need to take.. May 19 17:30:12 is usb plugging a hard requirement for your use case? May 19 17:31:23 yes.. its for a bitcoin miner, and if you stop the miner and restart it the device is gone out of the usb list May 19 17:34:20 well, don't stop the miner then May 19 17:56:08 Hey, my beaglebone doesnt automatically power up when power is applied, I need to press the power button, is this normal? May 19 18:00:38 tbr: thos are not solution, i was hoping to get a better product than the Pi :/ May 19 18:31:38 How can I retrieve my BBB serial #? Is it the sticker on the side? May 19 18:34:07 Gateway69: ask on the mailing list if someone knows which kernel could support hotplug May 19 18:35:33 whats hte best mainling list to use, google one or other? May 19 18:35:49 anyone knows where to put such a kernel config file, so that it's used when building the kernel? May 19 18:35:58 http://pastebin.com/qAy2stYu May 19 18:38:39 whops, alright, got it... May 19 18:38:41 Gateway69: yes the google group May 19 18:40:51 Hello, it don't support sd carD? May 19 18:48:21 will it work with 64GB microsd? May 19 18:57:18 good =] May 19 19:03:26 hello guys, I have a problem with my BeagleBoard rev C4 and my rev C5. I need to get the usb-A port to work correctly, I tried several images (the latest one being http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Demo_Image ) and very few attempts at connecting any usb device succeeds May 19 19:03:37 I have a proper 5V supply May 19 19:04:38 I see some people have the same kind of problem http://superuser.com/questions/740322/how-do-i-get-usb-devices-working-with-beagleboard-xm-and-yocto-project-linux May 19 19:12:02 I'm trying right now with the latest image from the link in the topic, didn't try this one yet... May 19 19:21:25 nope, doesn't work either... May 19 19:40:57 Hi there, I have a question about Debian images... At http://beagleboard.org/latest-images I find BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-04-23-2gb.img (434MB) and at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Official_BeagleBoard.org_Images_for_shipping_with_BeagleBone_Black I find BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-15-2gb.img (161MB)... I just can't see any reference why one is so much smaller than the other... May 19 19:42:01 less packages preinstalled? May 19 19:44:31 That is most probable... But I'm still slighty wary about how that would impact the beagle bone... If it's just GUI missing, I wouldn't mind but I wouldn't want to loose specific beagle bone stuff... May 19 19:46:26 * infinitum wants his rev C beaglebone :/ May 19 19:46:29 dont worry about that, very easy to install anything you need May 19 19:46:50 and the BBB specific stuff is a very small fraction i doubt you’d end up missing anything May 19 19:47:51 as long as you dont plan on using usb hotplug your ok May 19 19:47:51 i would guess that for the official image someone was more motivated to remove uneeded things for the sake of storage space May 19 19:48:32 Thanks... I did an apt-get update, and it didn't contact the BB repository... I guess I'll have to add that manually May 19 19:48:45 (on the smaller image, that is) May 19 20:15:34 I asked my question on the forum (in the beagleboard section), can't paste the link here for the moment, waiting for approval. If any of you has an answer, i will be there... Thank you for your attention... bye May 19 21:19:35 Okay, this is useful... I have 1.6mb of free space on my BBB revB and I've installed maybe 3-4 packages. May 19 21:20:31 running debian? May 19 21:22:17 Yeah May 19 21:22:39 Not quite sure what I should get rid of to get the size down. Already ran autoclean and got rid of /var/cache/apt/archives May 19 21:25:30 Future ones will be the RevC, so it won't be much of an issue, just need this one to work :P May 19 21:25:52 Still, 1.5mb is pathetically small amount of space to work with. May 19 21:32:22 Anyone know how much room should be left on a RevB stock debian install? That's one of the few things I didn't look at when I first installed this. May 19 21:36:59 if you aren't using any of the gui stuff you can probably remove all of that May 19 21:37:11 I need most of the gui stuff. May 19 21:37:16 default debian install took up about 1.9gb last time i checked May 19 21:37:35 I boot my bbb off of a 16GB microsd to avoid space problems May 19 21:37:36 Just found apt cache for the pkgsrc, that was 2x 40mb, and chromium .cache in the homedir too. May 19 21:37:44 Hey guys -- I flashed away the default debian on the revision c (4gb), and can't seem to find any images to restore it. The 2GB images seem to be causing problems. Any ideas? May 19 21:37:46 Trying to keep this system simple. May 19 21:38:11 Just need to do some simple python gui devel, maybe I'll see about removing chromium. May 19 21:42:47 Alrighty, now I've got ~150mb free, should be good enough for now I think. May 19 21:43:20 AE7IK: that sounds about what to expect from the Debian image May 19 21:44:12 if you don't need a GUI, there are a lot of packages you could remove... May 19 21:44:52 intali: the 2GB images are the correct one, there are scripts to resize after the install May 19 21:45:22 at least, if you're using http://beagleboard.org/latest-images May 19 21:45:44 I'm getting errors like "cannot execute binary file" when using wget thought maybe it was because of the wrong image May 19 21:46:29 when running wget from the BBB? May 19 21:46:39 yup May 19 21:46:50 or "sudo" or a bunch of other commands too. May 19 21:48:03 which image did you download, and how did you install it? May 19 21:48:16 vagrantc: Need gui's. Starting a PySide gui interface. May 19 21:49:05 Now for my next trick, I need to trick X into getting the vertical and horizontal resolution correct. May 19 21:49:23 As a have a 1/4" margin top and bottom of the screen and everything seems squished. May 19 21:49:30 Downloaded "Debian (BeagleBone Black - 2GB eMMC) 2014-04-23", installed with a dd from my desktop after extracting the img May 19 21:49:30 AE7IK: you'll have to watch you did usage like a hawk until you get the revCs then, or only unn off of micro-SD May 19 21:49:46 vagrantc: Yeah, shouldn't be too big a deal for now. May 19 21:49:56 It's going to be a pretty simple gui for controlling an SPI function. May 19 21:50:20 I could probably go with the angstrom build, but I want to keep the underlying OS the same since BBB's seem to be going the direction of Debian. May 19 21:54:57 Alrighty, hopefully I didn't just fugger up my image. May 19 21:55:19 * AE7IK sets video=HDMI-1-A:1680-1050@60 May 19 21:55:36 Hmm, nope, that didn't do it, still wants to do 1280x1024 May 19 21:57:18 Odd, it doesn't seem to have liked that argument in uEnv.txt May 19 21:57:37 why'd you try that value? May 19 21:57:53 http://blog.machinekit.io/2013/06/force-beaglebone-black-hdmi-resolution.html May 19 21:58:33 And native resoultion for this display is 1680x1050 May 19 21:59:21 that's 16:10 aspect ratio? May 19 21:59:30 Sounds right. May 19 22:00:10 does beagle even support that? May 19 22:00:29 ...I think so, we had it running on this monitor using angstrom... May 19 22:00:38 I'm not even seeing the argument in /proc/cmdline though. May 19 22:01:15 Is there a good way to switch it while running? May 19 22:01:57 not that I'm aware of May 19 22:02:18 Hmm, looks like it can support 1080p@24, but not at 60hz. May 19 22:04:04 most monitors don't support that refresh rate though, afaik May 19 22:12:02 * AE7IK tries playing with settings in xrandr, but that doesn't have authority to change anything even as root it seems. May 19 22:15:50 hola May 19 22:16:26 Well, that's useful, the only option I have is 1280x1024. May 19 22:16:48 no hablo ingles May 19 22:18:22 vgkcnvskcndjmbvjk mbv db ,jd May 19 22:47:14 hey guys thanks for the massive update :P May 19 23:09:35 i need some help. i am trying to interface an lcd with the beaglebone black and need to know where i would hook up certain pins. http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-2-inch-TFT-LCD-Module-Display-with-touch-panel-SD-card-240x320-than-128x64-LCD-/360610564970?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f6108b6a May 19 23:10:41 here is the lcd screen. have connected the lcd pins so far but am unsure where to hook the lcd_rs, lcd_wr, lcd_rd and lcd_cs May 19 23:11:04 i have never used a lcd with the beaglebone and i know this screen has been used with the beaglebone black before May 19 23:22:19 maybe looking at some of the existing lcd cape schematics would help May 19 23:27:45 thurgood, thats probably a good idea. if I could see the pins used on a 16bit lcd then it shouldnt be too hard to mimic the setup **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 20 02:59:58 2014