**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 27 02:59:59 2014 Jun 27 04:18:51 hi Jun 27 04:19:28 hi Jun 27 04:20:52 hello everyone Jun 27 04:21:48 hello Jun 27 04:23:30 hi Jun 27 04:27:03 I want to use beagleboard for processing image Jun 27 04:34:50 hi nyt- Jun 27 04:35:17 hi. Jun 27 04:37:02 hi shay_shay Jun 27 04:40:13 ~ Jun 27 04:42:02 hi Jun 27 04:42:10 anyone tried android 5.0 yet? Jun 27 05:50:29 dedd Jun 27 05:50:34 i did Jun 27 05:50:37 :D Jun 27 07:46:43 is the bbb rom able to boot from the emmc boot partitions? Jun 27 07:47:25 that's what it does in the out of the box state, it boots from eMMC Jun 27 07:49:17 i mean the boot partition as defined in the emmc standard Jun 27 07:49:21 mmcblk0boot0 Jun 27 07:49:54 thats another physical area, not something of the ususal block device we partition Jun 27 08:04:08 ? Jun 27 08:04:28 the ROM code can boot from: Jun 27 08:04:34 1) a FAT partition Jun 27 08:04:40 2) raw emmc Jun 27 08:05:31 hello . I have a small problem . my BBB connects to the pc and I can see the image. but it does not connect via ssh what could be the problem? Jun 27 08:05:54 Driver. Jun 27 08:06:29 I instelled the drivers Jun 27 08:06:33 av500: raw? like i can dd mlo at a fixed position on there? Jun 27 08:07:19 it used to connect. but then just stoped. when i used the command "opkg install subversion libjpeg-dev imagemagick" Jun 27 08:07:44 Tried power cycling everything? Jun 27 08:07:54 power cycling ? Jun 27 08:08:02 Turn your computer and BBB off. Jun 27 08:08:06 Then turn them back on. Jun 27 08:08:14 Both off at the same time. Jun 27 08:08:15 I tried it on a idfferent pc Jun 27 08:08:24 and pee in the bbb as you power it on Jun 27 08:08:27 and still did nothing. I am in a computer lab of the univeristy Jun 27 08:08:50 bbbnewbe: Time to break out a serial cable. Jun 27 08:08:51 bbbnewbe: then you dont have permissions Jun 27 08:09:10 this computer lab is with root access Jun 27 08:09:22 oh ok Jun 27 08:09:33 i thought you meant library Jun 27 08:09:49 This is the one I use: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9717 Jun 27 08:10:02 dhewg: yes, but you need to add some header before it Jun 27 08:10:04 I think Jun 27 08:10:10 see the am335x TRM Jun 27 08:10:30 isent there another way insteed of getting new cables ? Jun 27 08:10:31 ? Jun 27 08:10:53 I have both connected with ethetnet and usb Jun 27 08:10:58 is that a problem? Jun 27 08:11:02 anybody an idea about the following: Jun 27 08:11:19 bbbnewbe serial cable is a life saver, always Jun 27 08:11:30 Try connecting the USB to a power supply, and the ethernet to your computer. Jun 27 08:11:36 i configure ttyO1 inside am335x-boneblack.dtb but i have to use it as console to make the all work as exspected Jun 27 08:12:01 if i dont do that then the capemgr goes crazy and detects my capes twice Jun 27 08:12:02 I dont get it what happen it was working 3mins ago Jun 27 08:12:27 dhewg: see 26.1.7.5.3 ff Jun 27 08:12:34 bbbnewbe: Was this your first opkg install? Jun 27 08:12:51 on a fersh image yes Jun 27 08:12:55 ... Jun 27 08:12:57 In raw mode the booting image can be located at one of the four consecutive locations in the main area: Jun 27 08:12:58 offset 0x0 / 0x20000 (128KB) / 0x40000 (256KB) / 0x60000 (384KB). Jun 27 08:13:03 I first did a opkg update but it failed Jun 27 08:13:05 And what happened exactly? Jun 27 08:13:08 and then tried to just install it Jun 27 08:13:16 both failed to install Jun 27 08:13:52 this is funny Jun 27 08:14:01 bbbnewbe: Paste your console output to a gist. Jun 27 08:14:25 I am not on linux at the time but linux was saying ssh connection timed out Jun 27 08:14:31 currendly using putty Jun 27 08:14:37 av500: alright, thanks. i guess that means it doesnt support the boot partitions Jun 27 08:14:49 Well, paste your putty output to a gist then. Jun 27 08:14:57 fyi: i meant this: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/cjb/mmc-utils.git/commit/?id=7bd1320b2cb38f040ab5cf017d17e283496690bf Jun 27 08:15:41 dhewg: correct Jun 27 08:15:59 and now it just connected Jun 27 08:16:02 just like that Jun 27 08:16:08 what in the world? Jun 27 08:16:26 Sunspots. Jun 27 08:16:34 sunspots ? Jun 27 08:17:06 did anyone tried this guide btw ? http://analogdigitallab.org/articles/beaglebone-black-webcam Jun 27 08:17:14 hm I thought the new default distro is debian Jun 27 08:17:18 trying to install streaming via web server Jun 27 08:18:55 woglinde: When’d you get your BBB? Jun 27 08:26:04 can I paste an error to tell me if you have a basic idea what it means? Jun 27 08:31:28 improvnerd I do not have one Jun 27 08:35:19 woglinde: I think the Rev C boards run debian. But those have only started shipping in the past week or so. Jun 27 08:35:58 improvnerd sure but you can download the image now and flash it Jun 27 08:36:13 if you do not like oe and angstroem Jun 27 08:37:02 woglinde: I don’t know if debian will fit in the old 2 GB on-board EMMC. Jun 27 08:37:19 oh okay Jun 27 08:37:23 You can certainly put it on an SD card. Jun 27 08:37:28 jkridner should make such an image Jun 27 08:37:34 which fits Jun 27 08:37:46 I’ve got an SD card with Ubunto on it Jun 27 08:37:54 Ubuntu. Jun 27 08:38:32 I haven’t played with a Rev C board yet. Jun 27 08:41:52 bbbnewbe: Feel free to paste the error. Better yet, paste what you typed and everything the BBB wrote back into a gist. Jun 27 08:42:08 https://gist.github.com Jun 27 08:42:31 (Or your favorite text pasting thingie.) Jun 27 09:00:47 Does anyone create new products with omap4/omap5 these days? Jun 27 09:05:45 tasslehoff: google does Jun 27 09:05:48 project ara :) Jun 27 09:06:00 lol Jun 27 09:06:05 but I guess they just have a ton leftover from Glass and Nexus Q Jun 27 09:06:10 they walking dead Jun 27 09:06:17 *the Jun 27 09:06:22 or they got them cheap from blackberry Jun 27 09:06:48 :) Jun 27 09:11:07 Freescale is the only alternative I've found to OMAP until now. Jun 27 09:14:32 no Winner Takes All? Jun 27 09:15:50 Hey folks. I'm new to these parts and I wanted to pick some of your brains for some info (to complement the googling I've been doing). I just received my BBB and i have a handful of arcade buttons here with me. It seems like the general method from the various online tutorials involves using some type of external resistor in an external circuit to get the button to act as it should. Is there a way to do this without the resistor? Jun 27 09:15:56 the wiener takes it all Jun 27 09:16:27 this is referred to as using an "internal pull-down" correct? (I'm a pretty techy/geeky guy, but relatively inexperienced with individual electronics stuff) Jun 27 09:16:42 is it an issue to solder a resistor? Jun 27 09:16:55 you also have to think about eventual debouncing Jun 27 09:17:11 no issue, just not a 2am doable thing for me atm with my limited gear here heh Jun 27 09:17:19 unless you poll buttons from python :) Jun 27 09:17:20 just glue it Jun 27 09:17:54 interesting hmm Jun 27 09:18:11 perhaps I'll wait until daytime and then tackle it with le resistors heh Jun 27 09:19:00 hello agian. trying to install Lighttpd . but it stucks on ln -s '/lib/systemd/system/lighttpd.service' '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/lighttpd.service' Jun 27 09:19:03 any ideas? Jun 27 09:19:15 just watch "Resistant Evil" instead Jun 27 09:19:42 isn't lighttpd part of the systemd already? Jun 27 09:20:00 ynezz no Jun 27 09:20:32 but planned, right? Jun 27 09:20:41 yes Jun 27 09:20:42 i just used the opkg install lighttpd lighttpd-module-fastcgi and it stucked there Jun 27 09:20:42 ask lennard Jun 27 09:20:50 nice one Jun 27 09:20:58 but its spelled lennartd Jun 27 09:21:01 so we can run web servers without userspace and / Jun 27 09:21:08 yes Jun 27 09:21:13 thats en vogue Jun 27 09:21:20 no one knows why?:p Jun 27 09:21:47 unifying / and /usr was all about killing both in the end Jun 27 09:22:04 shall I just ctrl + c ? Jun 27 09:22:26 another little question. I have all the gear already, but eventually I plan on implementing 4 joysticks and a total of 16 arcade pushbuttons. Do you guys think that I should even use the GPIO for all of this stuff, or look at the numerous commercial/DIY methods of keyboard emulators? Jun 27 09:22:41 digital joysticks? Jun 27 09:23:15 and what methods? Jun 27 09:23:23 using 32 GPIOs is certainly doable Jun 27 09:23:33 and linux allows you to define gpio-keys Jun 27 09:23:58 hmm okay. I like the idea of using all of the GPIOs I can Jun 27 09:24:08 thats why they were put there Jun 27 09:25:04 true true. And I suppose it's the main reason why I 100% wanted a BBB over the competitors. As I've been reading about all of the goodies inside too, it seems like there are a ton of other gems too Jun 27 09:25:19 like those PRUs Jun 27 09:28:11 ahh also is there a way to make bbb run this command on its boot so the camera will start without the ssh command? ./mjpg_streamer -i “./input_uvc.so” -o “./output_http.so -w ./www” Jun 27 09:37:19 bbbnewbe yes write a systemd script Jun 27 09:37:41 how do I do that? Jun 27 09:37:50 but it smells you making hacks instead of sane package development Jun 27 09:38:03 READING the systemd config Jun 27 09:38:09 looking at other scripts Jun 27 09:38:30 no I am making an ROV for me thesis Jun 27 09:39:12 just following standar commands from websites to get php and lighttpd on my bbb, and implement the cammera to run automatically at the moment Jun 27 09:39:39 thesis with php? Jun 27 09:39:48 hm I should stop now helping you Jun 27 09:40:00 thesis with robotics Jun 27 09:40:15 no sane roboter should use php Jun 27 09:40:41 I dont really need it ? Jun 27 09:40:57 what thesis btw. master? Jun 27 09:41:03 barchelon Jun 27 09:41:06 okay Jun 27 09:43:19 I dont get some stuff though . I have installed lighttpd on bbb and cant see it with ls -a. though when I run the url it opens the "It Works" index Jun 27 09:43:39 what does the php do for the cam? Jun 27 09:44:03 nothing I guess, it seems to be using html5 Jun 27 09:44:15 mjpg-streamer Jun 27 09:45:13 I am kinda lost with the boto and root of the bbb . I cant understand where to find the lightpd www folder or index folder to add my interface for the robot Jun 27 09:45:21 boto = bbb Jun 27 09:45:37 boot* sorry tired Jun 27 09:48:32 ok found it /var/www/pages Jun 27 09:50:23 you need php to do mjpeg? Jun 27 09:50:28 oh no Jun 27 09:50:38 you are better of with gstreamer Jun 27 09:50:48 instead with such a stupid hack Jun 27 09:53:03 mjpg streamer is a hack? oO Jun 27 09:53:17 ok gotta try out the gstreamer Jun 27 10:00:23 okay anyhow thanks see ya Jun 27 10:13:21 somebody help trace a crash libRSdriver.so Jun 27 10:13:40 somebody help trace a crash in libRSdriver.so Jun 27 10:16:14 what's a librsdriver? Jun 27 10:18:43 something that crashes Jun 27 10:18:56 apparently Jun 27 10:19:30 hint: if you are using privmessages, you're doing it wrong Jun 27 10:21:56 ah renderscript Jun 27 10:30:00 why would capemgr detect capes multiple times ? Jun 27 10:32:37 rob_w__: ask panto Jun 27 10:37:04 err, what multiple times? Jun 27 10:43:49 panto, if i enable ttyO1 in am335x and i dont setup any console to any ttyOX then my capemgr sets up multiple ocp.2 devices from my cape Jun 27 10:43:49 he panto Jun 27 10:44:43 if i do set console to ttyOX (hence the kernel spends almost 1s setting up the serial console) then all is fine Jun 27 10:44:45 it feels like a racing condition to me Jun 27 10:44:58 hey woglinde Jun 27 10:45:16 panto still at nv? Jun 27 10:45:18 let me prepare a pastebin to demonstrate Jun 27 10:45:25 woglinde, as far as I know Jun 27 10:45:27 :) Jun 27 10:51:18 http://pastebin.com/HMh7imkU <- panto ;-) Jun 27 10:54:58 what does this have to do with the capemgr? Jun 27 10:56:37 on the bad example: console=tty2 Jun 27 10:57:08 instead of ttyO2 that you probably wanted to use Jun 27 10:57:12 anyway, lunch Jun 27 10:59:41 well the bad example is correct dont want the console to be set to any serial device .. for various reasons Jun 27 11:01:24 i dont understand my the devices under ocp.2/ show up multiple times in hte bad example ? Jun 27 11:03:03 I have no idea what your device driver does Jun 27 11:03:35 it's possible that you get an error on probe (possibly a probe defer) and your driver fails to cleanup properly Jun 27 11:03:49 later on the driver is probed again, this time succeeding Jun 27 11:04:05 ah that sounds reasonable .. Jun 27 11:04:11 thx for the hint Jun 27 11:04:26 [ 0.359015] pinctrl-single 44e10800.pinmux: pin 44e108c8 already requested by bone-cape-modcon.15; cannot claim for bone-cape-modcon.17 Jun 27 11:05:11 so .15 is not finished or partially done only i then retrys and end up as .17 Jun 27 11:05:19 no idea :) Jun 27 11:05:22 now I'm hungry Jun 27 11:05:30 np thx anyway Jun 27 11:05:41 i guessed its inside my cape code ;-) Jun 27 11:11:00 Hi sir, Jun 27 11:11:52 Should we add any drivers ,when we connect our BBB to LCD 7" Jun 27 11:16:57 How to know wheather the image which was configured in the emmc Jun 27 11:24:55 how to know which image has been configured into the emmc of BBB Jun 27 11:26:29 Should we install any drivers separately for LCD 7" Jun 27 11:28:01 I have BBB, runnning Linux Angstrom. I have a microSd card with some files that i want to copy to my BBB. Jun 27 11:29:27 Follow this link http://beagleboard.org/bone step by step Jun 27 11:30:22 I'm using SSH (putty), I'm in /dev folder but i can't find sd... Jun 27 11:32:15 why u need Sd again after u login into putty Jun 27 11:33:55 I'm not using SD to boot, i only want to copy files in SDcard to a Directory on my BeagleBone Jun 27 11:34:19 But i'm not familiar with linux and i need help with commands Jun 27 11:34:55 am not getting u correctly..plz read the link again Jun 27 11:37:49 my BBB is booting and running, cloud9 works that is not my problem. Jun 27 11:38:53 I have a file in microSDcard abcd.dtbo that i need to copy to /lib/firmware Jun 27 11:39:01 Are u getting display on LCD 7' Jun 27 11:40:37 i dont't need display Jun 27 11:40:51 i'm working throw console Jun 27 11:44:50 fdisk -l Jun 27 11:44:55 it show: Jun 27 11:45:04 Disk /dev/mmcblk1: 7951 MB, 7951351808 bytes, 15529984 sectors Jun 27 11:45:25 and mount says? Jun 27 11:50:17 I'm in "/dev" directory. I need to enter SDcard. cd ...??? Jun 27 11:53:00 why dont you just scp the file? Jun 27 11:53:03 over ssh? Jun 27 11:58:30 ze_ u have to mount sd card first then u can see/edit the contents Jun 27 12:00:16 ze_ generally /dev/mmcblk0 is for sd card and /dev/mmcblkp1 is for emmc u have to check yours..... Jun 27 12:02:47 jkridner: is the sd not mounted by default? Jun 27 12:04:53 i know that /dev/mmcblk0 is the one that the BBB booted from upon start Jun 27 12:05:12 so it can be either emmc or usd Jun 27 12:08:59 yup thats why i wrote generally.... Jun 27 12:38:36 usb RNDIS not working any idea..... Jun 27 12:39:53 spike no Jun 27 12:42:50 when i tried inserting(g_ether.ko,g_multi.ko,....) module using insmod/modprobe getting i amerrors Jun 27 12:43:02 * am errors.. Jun 27 12:43:07 which errors? Jun 27 12:44:44 "unknown symbol g_ether_set_dev_addr" Jun 27 12:45:40 woglinde :the above errors popped when i tried inserting "g_multi.ko" Jun 27 12:45:53 using insmod Jun 27 12:48:48 spike so you are proably using modules which do not match your kernel Jun 27 12:49:56 av500: typically is Jun 27 12:53:02 woglinde: thanks but is there a way to prove wat ur saying....? Jun 27 12:53:52 because i am taking both kernel and modules from the same package ... Jun 27 12:56:14 or probably i am not compiling the modules can u tell me how to compile a module seperately.... suppose i wanna compile "g_ether.c" inorder to generate g_ether.ko what should i do....? Jun 27 12:57:07 spike if have never compiled kernel stuff its getting tough Jun 27 12:57:17 and sorry do not have the time atm Jun 27 12:59:09 thanks woglinde i was jst curious to learn..... Jun 27 13:46:59 if i change my DTB to remove eMMC do I need to change anything else to make it uboot from SD all the time? Jun 27 13:52:12 dtb is a kernel thing, uboot happens before the kernel Jun 27 13:53:30 if you want to permanently boot from SD remove MLO and uboot from eMMC Jun 27 14:45:45 Hello, I have a beaglebone white, which I just installed ubuntu 14.04, I can not seem to get any of the UART's to work as serial Jun 27 14:57:24 Can you have the mini-usb and the usb A both connected at the same time and still get the usb networking? Jun 27 14:57:41 Mine doesn't seem to be working (I'm ~20mins into using the board) Jun 27 15:03:34 Also, how do I start X11 on the default image? Jun 27 15:18:49 Buying a BBB is still a gamble - usual suspects out of stock. When will the increased capacity through E14 alleviate buying BBB? Jun 27 15:19:27 when they release the BeagleBone Silver Jun 27 15:19:54 Plrase elabortate Jun 27 15:20:04 Please elaborate Jun 27 15:20:19 I don't think anyone can predict that Jun 27 15:20:41 as long as demand exceeds supply, then it's always going to be hard to get, that's all Jun 27 15:22:23 With known production capacities and order numbers there must be a predictable point by when production nears demand. Jun 27 15:22:48 JoeT: The increased production capacity might trigger more orders Jun 27 15:28:58 Then production needs to increase again. Jun 27 15:35:06 TRhe swing to Rev C has cut production almost in half. One erxplanation. Question: when will production ramp up back into 13 k units? Jun 27 15:38:49 last time I checked, they were maxing out production on the Rev B, so I assume they're doing the best they can with the C Jun 27 15:41:44 other vendors are stepping up production on their own as well Jun 27 15:45:10 Can I run the exact same Debian for Rev C also on a Rev B board? Or do I run into memory limitations? Jun 27 15:45:37 JoeT have a look at the size Jun 27 15:47:24 woglinde is that a no? Jun 27 15:48:30 should not be a problem Jun 27 15:56:37 re Jun 27 15:57:33 the debian image fits in 2GB of eMMC Jun 27 16:00:40 thurgood ah good to know Jun 27 16:02:52 Does anybody have a udev rule for mounting a USB Thumb drive when it is inserted? Jun 27 16:03:48 I'm getting a /dev/sda device added but no auto mount Jun 27 16:05:37 gwilson google will help you Jun 27 16:05:43 there are serval helpers Jun 27 16:09:37 you can put a rule for it to automount in /etc/fstab is you want it to do that Jun 27 16:10:11 I haven't used any udev rules for that Jun 27 16:10:11 thurgood thats the worst solution Jun 27 16:10:20 oh? Jun 27 16:10:35 hm isnt there a udev/systemd automount foo too Jun 27 16:22:57 I've googled, but maybe my search terms wern't good, I haven't found what I need yet, just 'udev rule would help here' or 'udev rule needed' Jun 27 16:24:21 I hooked a beaglebone black up to an osciliscope because of the USB issues I've been having, and some of the devices cause some nasty spikes on the VBUS at boot. Jun 27 16:26:22 gwilson???? google finds at the first hit Jun 27 16:26:24 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Automounting_udisks_wrappers Jun 27 16:26:28 steal from them Jun 27 16:26:31 its opensource Jun 27 16:28:30 anyone else having USB VBUS issues? Jun 27 16:35:48 Yea, I had found that, didn't give any good examples and a fair amount of it is specific to Arch Linux, not debian. I have now found a package for debian, 'usbmount' that says it will do the trick. Jun 27 16:36:18 just need to continue searching when you don't find it the first time, or the third/ Jun 27 16:43:14 would also love to hear any one elses' experience with VBUS errors Jun 27 16:45:32 gwilson hehe why didnt you mentioned debian Jun 27 16:45:47 yes usbmount is another way todo it Jun 27 16:49:40 KaaK have you seen VBUS issues? I see it only when booting with certain devices. My oscilliscope shows some nasty spikes with those devices. Jun 27 17:06:13 woglinde: can't think of everythnig, sorry should have. Jun 27 17:48:27 gwilson dont be sorry you found a solution Jun 27 18:14:20 Has anyone experienced USB errors on boot? I'm mostly interested in VBUS errors. Jun 27 22:50:43 Hey, anyone know of any documentation on how to use the files on the system to control the pins? Jun 27 22:51:06 google for pinmux Jun 27 23:06:54 hi guys, i just got my shiny new BBB today and have run into a smallish problem. anybody know the secret to changing the IP permanently for usb0? Jun 27 23:13:12 https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually Jun 27 23:32:37 i had tried modifying the IP in /etc/network/interfaces but it didnt seem to change anything Jun 27 23:35:07 yo need to modify the usb gadget config Jun 27 23:35:13 it don't be anything do with networking Jun 27 23:35:19 oops *to Jun 27 23:35:23 I can't trype lol Jun 27 23:41:30 usb gadget config... can i have another hint? Jun 27 23:42:26 the usb ethernet address is set in the usb gadget networking module Jun 27 23:42:36 or the config of same. Jun 27 23:42:48 its not a normal networking interface .. its a usb 'fudge' Jun 27 23:42:59 or a virtual networking device Jun 27 23:44:21 the problem is that it conflicts with my LAN addressing scheme, i picked 192.168.7.x because *nothing* would conflict with that right? Jun 27 23:46:50 lol Jun 27 23:46:55 someething always does Jun 27 23:47:18 hence why you have ipv6 addressing coming online Jun 27 23:47:42 but anyway .. somewhere in usb gadget config .. that 7.2 address is hidden Jun 27 23:47:54 if jkridner was here .. sure he'd know Jun 27 23:49:25 is that gadget something that's accessed via the gui? Jun 27 23:49:45 no Jun 27 23:49:51 hard coded in something Jun 27 23:50:25 gotcha Jun 27 23:51:05 well i feel better about not being able to find it then Jun 27 23:51:43 it'll be hidden in something .. google should help you Jun 27 23:51:53 we need a google bot in here .. something cronic Jun 28 01:20:45 .g define rhinoplasty Jun 28 01:21:22 vermit i could put on on my vps Jun 28 01:21:29 :D Jun 28 01:21:43 another instance of weechat will do it Jun 28 01:32:05 i am looking at cloudbot Jun 28 01:37:48 veremit: https://github.com/ClouDev/CloudBot/tree/develop/plugins Jun 28 01:38:02 i like the cookie plugin Jun 28 01:38:16 heh Jun 28 01:39:38 if someone comes in and saya Jun 28 01:39:53 "my serial console dont work HALP" Jun 28 01:40:07 .cookie guest36743 Jun 28 01:40:27 ok time I slept .. catchya laters :) Jun 28 01:40:34 ok Jun 28 01:40:58 time i put a bot in the channel Jun 28 01:41:02 :D Jun 28 01:41:13 ehe Jun 28 01:41:18 nite I-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 28 02:59:58 2014