**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 30 03:00:00 2014 Jun 30 04:42:03 sorry ungrouping a nick Jun 30 05:52:27 * gooBot getting fluffy Jun 30 06:13:30 Hi beagle.. Jun 30 06:15:57 I am doing project in beaglebone black.. Jun 30 06:18:09 using poky disto dora branch with kernel 3.8.13 . Jun 30 06:18:47 compiled images and filesystem with minimal support using core-image-minimal.. Jun 30 06:19:37 if i try port this image in myboard my hangs on starting kernel..... Jun 30 06:23:05 please check this web link http://pastebin.com/fxHNZa7D Jun 30 06:23:06 please suggest me to solve this issue. Jun 30 06:47:56 please help me to resolve this problem. i am in very critical switchvation. Jun 30 06:50:36 hello all - does spi0 shares pins with i2c? Jun 30 06:51:34 and UART2 :\? Jun 30 06:53:37 quesion is about bbb Jun 30 06:56:55 maquefel: http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:Cape_Expansion_Headers Jun 30 07:34:40 hi is there some one that knows how to startup a lcd7 cape Jun 30 07:35:05 i use the standard debian img Jun 30 07:35:20 it doesn't run straight out of the box. Jun 30 07:37:14 wasn't there something about board and cape revisions? Jun 30 07:37:28 are you sure the board is compatible as is? Jun 30 07:37:47 i have bbb with chipsee v1 Jun 30 07:39:05 ah, that one is meant for the BBB Jun 30 07:39:21 BUT AFAIU it only runs with the chipsee image. Or at least it used to. Jun 30 07:39:27 No idea if they upstreamed their changes Jun 30 07:39:56 where can i find the image Jun 30 07:40:16 and is it possible to use a lcd with debian Jun 30 07:40:20 no idea Jun 30 07:40:38 check with the vendor or check included documentation for your screen Jun 30 07:40:52 i can 't find any information on that image Jun 30 07:43:24 find it on the cd Jun 30 07:44:24 but there is not a default driver to use a custom lcd with a higher resolution Jun 30 07:58:49 Hello and Good day Jun 30 07:59:14 does anyone here know how to use lighttpd on a beaglebone ? Jun 30 08:01:43 i delete their file the index.html from var/www/pages and create a new one. but it still prints out It Works!!. in the lighttpd.conf I dont see any direct setup of a different directory for the index.html any ideas? Jun 30 08:10:33 well, maybe you should read the config and see where it has it's document root? Jun 30 08:15:35 could not insert "g_ether.ko" no such device any links.....why this and how to get rid of this ? Jun 30 08:23:30 spike_1 do you still fighthing with g_ stuff? Jun 30 08:28:38 woglinde yup.... :) Jun 30 08:33:22 2evs: chipsee lcd cape? Jun 30 08:35:00 KotH I did but it does not make any sence. it says document root = /www/pages as I have set it to be Jun 30 08:35:23 evs: i've managed to get it working with there image from sd card Jun 30 08:35:25 in there there is an index.html witch has an example of paragraphs . and it still show It Works Jun 30 08:45:48 hmm how do I make beaglebone black run some commands on its boot up so I will be able to use putty with out need to interupt those ? Jun 30 08:46:33 https://www.google.com/search?q=systemd+run+at+startup Jun 30 08:58:57 well that google search did not help since I am working on bbb and not something random. but thanks anyhow found out how Jun 30 08:59:58 but anyhow I created the service and the sh file and still it does not do what I want it to do Jun 30 09:08:47 BB runs systemd Jun 30 09:08:55 so systemd info applies Jun 30 09:14:21 anyhow I made the .sh and .service and made a sympolic link with them Jun 30 09:14:27 enabled the .service Jun 30 09:14:41 restarted the bbb and still it does not run the commands Jun 30 09:15:01 I just need it to do a cd to go to a directory and then run a file Jun 30 09:15:23 spike_1 hm okay next what you could try is to build in the g_ module you want but only one possible Jun 30 09:17:22 example this 3 lines cd mjpg-streamer-code/ cd mjpg-streamer/ ./mjpg_streamer -i "./input_uvc.so -f 35 -r 1280x720 /dev/video0 -n" -o "./output_http.so -p 8090" Jun 30 09:17:33 using a bash file to do ti Jun 30 09:32:14 how long will omap 4 be sold/supported? Jun 30 09:34:19 ha Jun 30 09:34:22 54 Jun 30 09:36:12 so am guessing the other guy answered to be the google link with no idea how to help me with any trounle I get ? what in the world -_- Jun 30 09:37:02 ? Jun 30 09:37:57 I am trying to run 3 commands on startup but ti does not seem to work Jun 30 09:38:21 yes, I get that Jun 30 09:38:32 sadly I dont know why Jun 30 09:38:34 I want BBB to go to a directory and run a command to start the camera , but I cant get the setvice to work emm look at the error when I try to run service Jun 30 09:38:54 actually i get no error Jun 30 09:39:24 but when I run systemctl Jun 30 09:39:31 It says it failed Jun 30 09:39:39 and no log? Jun 30 09:39:48 where do I fidn the lgo ? Jun 30 09:39:50 log* Jun 30 09:40:00 systemctl prints the last few lines of the relevant log Jun 30 09:40:51 it does not seem to print any log Jun 30 09:41:00 want me to paste the service conf? Jun 30 09:42:05 Unit] Description= After=syslog.target network.target [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/bin/camera.sh [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target Jun 30 09:42:37 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/45940/setting-up-boot-scripts-for-beaglebone-angstrom Jun 30 09:42:40 looks similar Jun 30 09:42:45 did you enable and start? Jun 30 09:42:52 yes i did Jun 30 09:42:59 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11152657/angstrom-start-up-processes-beaglebone Jun 30 09:44:12 maybe i did my bash wrong ? Jun 30 09:44:25 coz when i check the stadus is what it says Jun 30 09:44:43 Jun 30 09:37:33 beaglebone camera.sh[370]: /usr/bin/camera.sh: line 3: cd: m...y Jun 30 09:37:33 beaglebone camera.sh[370]: /usr/bin/camera.sh: line 4: cd: m...y Jun 30 09:37:33 beaglebone camera.sh[370]: /usr/bin/camera.sh: line 5: ./mjp...y Jun 30 09:37:33 beaglebone systemd[1]: camera2.service: main process exited.../a Jun 30 09:37:33 beaglebone systemd[1]: Unit camera2.service entered failed state Jun 30 09:45:02 I dont use cd in bash ? Jun 30 09:45:30 can you please use pastebin.com Jun 30 09:45:44 okay Jun 30 09:46:03 Hmmm. 54. I wasn't around when that started. Jun 30 09:46:57 I think you were :) Jun 30 09:47:08 http://pastebin.com/GbuYba5Z here is my bash script Jun 30 09:47:48 thats a relative path Jun 30 09:47:56 it will depend on from where you luanch it Jun 30 09:48:04 and its #! Jun 30 09:48:07 not ! Jun 30 09:48:37 ohh god if that fix it i will shoot my self Jun 30 09:48:44 and usually its /bin/sh Jun 30 09:49:03 i have camera.sh in bin/camera.sh Jun 30 09:50:09 its how I have #! but astill get the erro hmmm.. if I change cd to echo it will make any difference ? Jun 30 09:51:12 please call the script by hand and pastebin the full output Jun 30 09:51:17 we cannot see you screen Jun 30 09:53:01 http://pastebin.com/Nb6n4tkg Jun 30 09:53:09 the problem is the directory exist Jun 30 09:53:31 as I said Jun 30 09:53:35 it is a relative path Jun 30 09:53:46 so cd will only work if you are in the parent folder Jun 30 09:54:03 how do I send it to the parent folder ? Jun 30 09:54:11 av500: I remember it from hwbug-links, but never knew why it was 54. now I wonder if I started it :p Jun 30 09:54:20 demeteor: pastebin your systemd file Jun 30 09:54:22 unit Jun 30 09:54:29 tasslehoff: no you did not Jun 30 09:54:38 how do I get that to paste it ? Jun 30 09:54:40 26+26=54 Jun 30 09:54:47 demeteor: sorry? Jun 30 09:54:55 pastebin the content of your unit file Jun 30 09:55:06 you mean the ls of the systemd ? Jun 30 09:55:16 the file you wrote Jun 30 09:55:21 ahh ok Jun 30 09:55:21 to call your script Jun 30 09:56:29 http://pastebin.com/rMHkCrH6 Jun 30 10:00:27 yes Jun 30 10:00:36 now look at the examples I linked Jun 30 10:00:46 WorkingDirectory=... Jun 30 10:04:41 so for parent directory I will just add WorkingDirectory=~ ? Jun 30 10:18:38 okay this is odd Jun 30 10:18:58 I remade the camera.sh file but it still reads the old one hmm Jun 30 10:27:50 how to use EMIF in beagle bone black Jun 30 11:02:14 vini: It's already in use (guess where ;) ? Jun 30 11:31:22 Is there a way to keep the RTC powered when the system is shut down on beagle bone black? Jun 30 11:36:54 JetForMe|-0700, check the schematic Jun 30 11:38:04 Thanks Jun 30 12:16:40 I'm developing a kernel module and I'm not being able to receive dev_dbg messages in /var/log/messages or dmesg log. What do I do to increase the log level? Jun 30 12:25:32 maybe increase the error level in your printk calls Jun 30 12:39:10 I did echo 7 > /proc/sys/kernel/printk but to no effect Jun 30 12:47:44 stupid question: but does your code get executed? Jun 30 13:14:00 Anyone else having VBUS issues on boot? I can't be the only one! Jun 30 13:48:19 abferm_: what kernel? Jun 30 16:08:49 thurgood : I have tried 3.8, 3.12, and 3.14 Jun 30 16:10:24 All show the same problem. It appears to be separate from the hotswap issue, which I only saw on the 3.8 kernel. I'm also still seeing babble errors on the newer kernels. Jun 30 16:15:22 is very sad to see a good piece of hardware not available to sell. If I have to buy only one piece at a time and wait 14 weeks before it arrives, I can't think to start a project on it. In this way the smallest raspberryPi wins. What about the certified clones? Jun 30 16:15:42 where are them? Jun 30 16:20:11 I've never heard of anyone waiting 14 weeks. Did you actually place a pre-order? Jun 30 16:21:18 Waiting until a shop has them in-stock is synonymous with waiting until demand falls and they start to have inventory gathering dust on their shelves. Before that happens, they will fill all their pre-orders. Get in line. Jun 30 16:25:45 silvio special comp probably has them in stock, but they charge more Jun 30 16:39:40 RS and Conrad tell me about 14 weeks Jun 30 16:41:30 thanks for special comp suggest, but the proble is that I would like to start 4 project with an hardware like this, but if the stocks are always empty I can not use this beaglebone black Jun 30 16:41:46 the certified clone of Element14 was a good idea, but the leave Jun 30 16:43:27 the distributor times are algorithm driven bullshit guesses Jun 30 16:43:40 place a few pre orders, cancel the others when one ships. Jun 30 17:03:11 Silvio: Stocks are always empty because distributors fill their pre-orders first. Get in line. If you wait for there to be nobody in line... why? Jun 30 17:03:56 Silvio: Waiting to see stock means that any given distributor has zero pre-orders pending. That's a way to guarantee that you'll be the last person to get your board. Jun 30 17:09:25 hello Jun 30 17:11:31 gooBot: bot or human? Jun 30 17:14:20 human. lol Jun 30 17:15:21 goobot from jimmy neutron Jun 30 17:46:44 I am guessing gapspark is back as NoodleMuncher Jun 30 17:48:21 Wrong channel, whoops Jun 30 18:04:23 @myself, thanks for your reply! Jun 30 18:04:38 bye! Jun 30 19:42:27 HI Jun 30 19:42:37 is there a Debian jessy flasher ? Jun 30 19:42:46 wheezy is kind of outdated Jun 30 19:43:37 mkad, look up wheezy-backports Jun 30 19:43:53 I had that in apt Jun 30 19:44:03 still outdated and misses the point Jun 30 19:44:09 if backports fails you, then i'd check out jessy Jun 30 19:44:24 yeah I have jessy on sd card Jun 30 19:44:33 but I was wondering if there is a mmc flasher Jun 30 19:44:50 are you selecting as a distribution? e.g. `apt-get install -t wheezy-backports my-package-name` Jun 30 19:45:05 nope Jun 30 19:45:09 I was checking apt-cache Jun 30 19:45:13 I dont have wheezy anymore Jun 30 19:45:22 which package in particular? Jun 30 19:45:28 i upgraded my mmc but that broke node js thing Jun 30 19:45:32 gcc-4.9 Jun 30 19:45:52 or 4.8 Jun 30 19:46:33 but does it mean (as an answer to my question) that there is no jessy flasher ? Jun 30 19:48:07 none that I am aware of -- if you're feeling adventurous you could modify the current flasher to use a jessie rootfs instead of a wheezy -- but there are many gotchas in the implementation Jun 30 19:48:35 what I would love is jessy with console only Jun 30 19:48:36 what you may also try is using debootstrap to create a jessie chroot inside your wheezy install Jun 30 19:48:56 well I have already running jessy from sd card Jun 30 19:49:04 but I wanted to flash mmc Jun 30 19:49:23 though I will wait till thats possible with some image Jun 30 19:50:26 I think its much easier to follow Debian releases and update images, than to maintain backports, maintain patches to backports and keep old obsolete wheezy as base Jun 30 19:50:34 and less of work of course Jun 30 19:55:04 to each their own, but i've had lots of success with backports. sorry to hear they don't have your package. Jun 30 19:55:51 depending on how deep you are willing to dive into wheezy, you might also look in to building that package in wheezy -- backporting packages can often be quite easy Jun 30 19:56:51 a one liner even: apt-get source my-package=; cd mk-package; debuild Jun 30 19:57:14 yeah thats a lot of work, considering how even installing packages is SLOW on BBB Jun 30 19:58:01 chroot, rebuilding is like reaching with left hand to the right ear behind the head, when solution is much simple, update distribution to recent one, which is maintained by Debian team Jun 30 20:00:14 also this effort to maintain backports, patches to backports, etc.. is just redundant while bug fixes are merged to new version of packages Jun 30 20:01:21 but I wont argue, someone can even use gentoo on BBB if he/she wants Jun 30 20:01:24 well, at this point it sounds like pick your poison. either rebuild the package for wheezy, or modify the flasher to use a jessie rootfs. I'd go with which everone you think will be more straight forward for you Jun 30 20:01:57 yeah I use jessy image for SD card Jun 30 20:02:02 works ok Jun 30 20:02:14 what is the jessie package you need again? i'll see quickly if it will build against wheezy Jun 30 20:02:25 KaaK, gcc 4.8 Jun 30 20:02:35 at least Jun 30 20:02:42 wheezy has 4.6 Jun 30 20:02:50 thats like ancient Jun 30 20:03:11 KaaK, but dont Jun 30 20:03:36 KaaK, I am fine, I wanted to know if there is jessy mmc flasher, if not, than ok, I will live with sd card Jun 30 20:04:22 if I use wheezy than I will discover again something oudated that I need, and again, and again, etc.. there is no end for that, and no end of backporting, ultimate backport is just jessy Jun 30 20:05:46 sounds like debian indeed Jun 30 20:09:36 zmatt, that sounds even more like Ubuntu Jun 30 20:10:17 no, ubuntu would force you to have a graphical boot progress display even if you install no X11 Jun 30 20:10:54 and would force you to install lots of crap Jun 30 20:11:55 but "HOW OLD is that package?" sounds like debian, hell I sometimes even run into that when using sid Jun 30 20:12:16 ? Jun 30 20:12:21 gcc 4.8 ? Jun 30 20:12:24 sid has 4.9 Jun 30 20:12:31 packages in general Jun 30 20:12:46 dunno I use Debian since 1993 Jun 30 20:12:55 and never complained Jun 30 20:13:23 but I use up to date distribution and not backports which are a waste of time, and pain Jun 30 20:13:40 and usually effort in fixing bugs is in next versions Jun 30 20:13:58 so backports is just an extra effort to bring fixes to old obsolete softw Jun 30 20:14:03 which cannot be done everywhere Jun 30 20:14:07 and that makes a mess Jun 30 20:14:31 I dont get why people even have this delusion that system with backports is more stable Jun 30 20:14:41 its a disaster usuallt Jun 30 20:15:22 dunno, I've always ended up with sid Jun 30 20:15:44 me too Jun 30 20:16:00 never had problems with it Jun 30 20:25:57 Hi All. I have a question about the hdmi out on the beagle Jun 30 20:26:14 I cannot get the Video out of the micro HDMI Jun 30 20:26:34 is there a specific setting I need to do to Jun 30 20:27:15 to get the most helpful support, start with a link to the tutorial(s) you're following, and describe where your results start to diverge from theirs Jun 30 20:41:48 hi guys I am new to this Jun 30 20:41:52 can someone help Jun 30 20:42:13 I also want to know how I can install Ubuntu on the board Jun 30 20:43:52 <_av500_> install debian Jun 30 20:44:09 <_av500_> its the better ubuntu Jun 30 20:46:39 ok Jun 30 20:59:21 Good evening Jun 30 23:29:33 yay, finally have my bbb back, with jtag connector \o/ Jun 30 23:29:54 w00t Jun 30 23:33:27 the microsd slot supports the high capacity ("XC") ones right? Jun 30 23:36:55 with 20/20 hindsight, I should have asked him to check if it'd be possible to desolder the serial console header and resolder it on the other side... having the JTAG and console headers on opposite sides of the PCB is pretty fucking annoying Jun 30 23:38:28 Desoldering things is easy if you can do 'em one pin at a time Jun 30 23:38:42 dice up the plastic bit first, with nippers Jun 30 23:39:31 I do this with chips, too, if the chip is blown or whatever, just nip it off and get the body out, then remove one leg at a time from the board Jun 30 23:50:02 good one... because I was already staring at that header thinking "that's not gonna be easy" Jun 30 23:53:08 he works in the engineering dept of an electronics company so this stuff is probably peanuts for him... I've seen them do hw patches with SMD components that make you think.. how the HELL can you do that without just making a big solder blob of it all Jun 30 23:53:21 I'm more a software guy who sometimes dares to wield a soldering iron :P Jun 30 23:53:36 It'll come with practice. Jun 30 23:54:44 I've once soldered some SMD under a microscope, that also helps... like "omg these chips are HUUUGE" Jun 30 23:54:59 ;) Jun 30 23:56:11 Two pieces of soldering advice that I see newbies screw up: First, use a good iron with a properly tinned tip. An iron with no temperature control will tend to overheat, tarnish the tip prematurely, and burn off your flux too fast. And that leads into number two: Add fresh flux every time you melt solder. If you're flowing fresh rosin-core solder into the joint, then you've got flux already, you're good. But if you're remelting a joint, that ... Jun 30 23:56:17 ... initial flux is already gone, and you should add a dab more from a tub or needle thereof. Jun 30 23:56:44 With those two things handled, anyone can turn out really good joints with very little practice. Jun 30 23:57:23 yeah, fortunately we do also have pretty decent tools here @ work Jun 30 23:58:38 the iron isn't even heated while in its holder, but take it out and within seconds it's at the temperature you configured Jun 30 23:59:46 Metcal? Jun 30 23:59:51 Weller Jul 01 00:00:29 Interesting, I'm familiar with their mid-end stuff, didn't realize they had high-end like that. Jul 01 00:00:51 (and have suffered through way too much of their low-end junk that they should be ashamed to have their name on) Jul 01 00:01:36 I didn't know they also had low-end junk Jul 01 00:03:01 The WLC100 is the bane of any intro soldering lesson. Jul 01 00:03:34 Products found : ( 0 ) Jul 01 00:03:35 on their site Jul 01 00:03:46 so maybe they were, in fact, ashamed to have their name on it Jul 01 00:05:22 but looking at their current gear... http://goo.gl/EQ3lIn Jul 01 00:06:15 usb port on a soldering station o.O Jul 01 00:09:02 parameterization and monitoring, interesting Jul 01 00:11:52 wlc100 does still get good ratings, but that thing looks like it's ancient Jul 01 00:12:32 it gets good ratings from people who've never used anything better, but it's wattage-controlled, not temperature-controlled. Open-loop means there's really very little control over anything. Jul 01 00:13:26 ... which is perfectly normal for old soldering irons :P my dad still had a weller with no controls whatsoever besides an on/off switch and it still seemed to perform its duties quite adequately Jul 01 00:14:06 sure, I just wouldn't get it anywhere near a beglebone :P Jul 01 00:14:16 no, they were not really meant for the SMD-age Jul 01 00:27:52 Hi, I am new with bbb. Actually I got my first bbb board. When I connect the bbb to my computer, I do not see any activity related with USB port in my PC. Jul 01 02:27:51 Hi, I was wondering if the BeagleBone Black could handle output from a 25msps ADC? Or at least even 1/5th of it? Jul 01 02:28:29 sure. like SPI? Jul 01 02:28:43 how many bits? Jul 01 02:30:19 12-bits, let me check, I was window shopping ADC's and haven't decided on a particular one. Jul 01 02:30:29 I think the SPI bitrate max is 24MHz, so you'd likely need to use a parallel interface. http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_McSPI_Driver's_Guide Jul 01 02:31:24 hmmm... I guess it can do 48MHz, which is the master clock rate. Jul 01 02:32:08 Athiril: http://beaglelogic.net samples 8/16 bits at 100MHz. Jul 01 02:32:15 Parallel, but there are other models with SPI, so either is fine Jul 01 02:32:50 hmmmm... I say that, but it says a maximum of 12 inputs.... so, 12-bit at 100MHz. Jul 01 02:33:39 Seems SPI is likely limited to 48MHz (48Mbits, so not close to 12bit*24msps) Jul 01 02:33:55 Ideally I only want 5 msps, anything more I can get is a bonus Jul 01 02:33:58 the 1/5th of it seems doable. Jul 01 02:34:09 5*12 = 60MHz. :( Jul 01 02:34:39 so, only 4msps w/ SPI. Jul 01 02:34:43 @ 12bit Jul 01 02:35:18 assuming no delays (constant data w/o need for CS cycles) Jul 01 02:35:40 but, the PRU http://beaglelogic.net thing should do it. Jul 01 02:36:29 Seems like the most viable option so far, can transfer an image across in reasonable time. Jul 01 02:41:04 GPMC+DMA might also be an option. Jul 01 02:41:40 Athiril: http://www.element14.com/community/community/designcenter/single-board-computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/08/04/bbb--high-speed-data-acquisition-and-web-based-ui Jul 01 02:52:23 Oh that looks rather promising Jul 01 02:53:25 Thanks for the help :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 01 03:00:01 2014