**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 02 03:00:00 2014 Jul 02 03:52:47 Alright I'm back with another stupid question, I want to boot from the uSD without flashing the eMMC, I read: Jul 02 03:52:48 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Ubuntu_On_BeagleBone_Black Jul 02 03:53:39 But it seems like the only difference is not logging in for ten minutes. Is that the only difference between it flashing and it not Jul 02 03:54:05 Btw this isn't for Ubuntu, just the only thing I could find Jul 02 04:30:28 nope3000, it doesn't take 10 minutes to log in if you boot from an SD card Jul 02 04:30:36 it takes like 30 seconds tops Jul 02 04:31:49 and booting off the SD is probably the best way to use the board in many cases Jul 02 04:32:54 Lol ah, I got confused, long day. I started to try to boot and I think I messed something up in the eMMC, it wouldn't boot for the longest and finally after several resets it booted but the directory tree is different Jul 02 04:33:21 It has the debain_live now in /media Jul 02 04:34:03 What's the best way to try to boot from SD? I tried the hold the boot button and power it on, but none of the LEDs came on Jul 02 04:34:16 The safe bet I think is to just upgrade the default Angstrom image, and then put the debian SD image on your SD card and boot off of that Jul 02 04:34:37 you have to press the power button while holding the boot button Jul 02 04:35:12 I keep Angstrom the eMMC as a fall back in case I ever have SD card issues or I break something Jul 02 04:35:28 I'm going to flash the eMMC tonight then, and is that process the same with other distros, like arch? Jul 02 04:36:16 I don't think it's exactly the same, I don't use Arch myself but I checked out the guide a while ago and it was slightly more complicated Jul 02 04:37:55 I think Arch officially supports the BB so they have a detailed guide, which should make installation simple Jul 02 04:38:12 http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/ti/beaglebone-black Jul 02 04:38:47 I went through it and thought I had messed up the board do to the lights not flashing or anything, but I just double checked and found out that it had actually worked lol Jul 02 04:39:37 I don't have a monitor or anything hooked up to it, just ethernet and the mini usb going to a wall brick. Jul 02 04:40:59 And I ssh into it Jul 02 04:41:15 You can have the board hooked up to a monitor and to other devices if you want, but if you're flashing the eMMC, I think it was recommended to unplug everything except for the power source Jul 02 04:42:36 Lol I wasn't trying to flash the eMMC, I was afraid that I was going to flash it by accident. I kinda just want to leave the eMMC alone so I can't brick the unit, like how you have it, plus I could switch out the OS easier (theorectically) Jul 02 04:43:49 yeah and you have a lot more room presumably with an SD card anyway Jul 02 04:46:13 Just double checked and I didn't mess it up, is it obvious by the lights when it starts trying to flash the eMMC? Or is it best just to have a monitor hooked up? Jul 02 05:14:15 nope3000: Easiest way is with a usb to serial converter on the bone's TTL IO lines Jul 02 05:14:32 always a handy gadget to have around Jul 02 05:16:02 Awesome, thanks! I'll order it right now, so this will allow me to allways connect to it via a computer, regardless of services? Like will it show me everything that a monitor would? If so shoot, I'll buy two of them. Jul 02 05:16:15 hehe Jul 02 05:16:29 it'll show you what the 'bone is up to, even let you get into the bootloader Jul 02 05:17:13 and good for all kinds of gadgets, from routers to 'bones Jul 02 05:19:37 Dang, I'll definitely get one then, but I'm guessing your not talking about: Jul 02 05:19:39 http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-RS-232-Serial-Converter-TU-S9/dp/B0007T27H8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404278182&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+to+serial+converter Jul 02 05:19:55 not quite. Jul 02 05:20:02 you're looking for USB to TTL Jul 02 05:21:08 Awesome, these look like I thought they would now lol. Jul 02 05:21:33 you can find them on ebay for acouple of bucks, shipped Jul 02 05:22:51 Do they all basically do the same exact thing? I mean they are basically just wire connected to a small converter, right? Or no? Jul 02 05:22:54 PL2303 works well enough Jul 02 05:23:08 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-To-RS232-TTL-UART-PL2303HX-Auto-Converter-USB-to-COM-Cable-Adapter-Module-/310676792112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4855c7a330 Jul 02 05:23:09 Something like that Jul 02 05:23:42 but pretty much anything from an ebay search for "usb to ttl" should work Jul 02 05:24:46 Oh man, you weren't kidding about a couple of bucks Jul 02 05:25:42 might take a while though Jul 02 05:27:01 FWIW, TTL is the 5V (or 3.3V) level that the 'bone uses for its console output, vs RS232 that uses +12/-12V Jul 02 05:27:11 generally you'd just connect up ground, TX and RX Jul 02 05:29:16 I think I just found one, like in my apartment, you know that huge box of cords that you keep even though you never use them. But mine only has four cable coming out Jul 02 05:30:07 nope3000: Probably 5V, tx, rx, gnd Jul 02 05:30:09 I think it was for a raspberry pi, my friend didn't need the cord for it so he gave it to me Jul 02 05:30:14 same idea. Jul 02 05:30:27 don't attach the 5V, it'd blow something up Jul 02 05:30:36 the bbone has its own power supply, and doesn't need the power supplied by that cable. Jul 02 05:31:09 Time to look up these colors! And thanks for letting me know lol. Jul 02 05:31:24 Is it this one? http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Accessories#Adafruit_4_Pin_Cable_.28PL2303.29 Jul 02 05:32:48 It is exactly that one lol Jul 02 05:32:54 okay then :) Jul 02 05:33:32 Lol thanks so much by the way, just got this thing today Jul 02 05:33:39 no problem :) Jul 02 05:34:25 I'm not sure if the bbb has had a firmware update since then, but this is how to make an sd card that you can use as storage: dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/beagleboneblack/install_emmc.xml#expand Jul 02 05:37:33 Dang that's pretty useful, I thought my sdcard was just messing up, I could mount it if I plugged it in after the system had booted, but that would get annoying real quick Jul 02 05:38:49 mmhmm Jul 02 05:49:01 What do you normally use to connect to the serial port? Putty, screen, or minicom? Jul 02 05:49:13 gtkterm, myself Jul 02 05:49:26 but minicom would work Jul 02 05:49:34 or putty Jul 02 05:51:26 * AE7IK has used minicom Jul 02 05:52:02 wait, I can do this straight from the terminal without anything specail? Let's see if I can figure that out real quick Jul 02 06:11:20 I'm guessing that if I just get a black screen with a blinking cursor that that's not good Jul 02 06:11:34 heh Jul 02 06:11:50 depends if it's supposed to be doing anthing Jul 02 06:15:02 So if I were to restart the device is stuff supposed to come up on the serial connection? Jul 02 06:15:08 yeah Jul 02 06:16:05 Lol and if it doesn't, I have done something wrong? Jul 02 06:21:45 yeah :) Jul 02 06:22:04 you may have to sudo whatever command you're trying to listen with Jul 02 06:22:17 because device access is typically restricted Jul 02 06:22:42 Wellllll crap, I have tried sudo with minicom, screen, and putty. It's like it just can't access it, or doesn't see it Jul 02 06:22:56 are you doing the right speed? Jul 02 06:23:06 not sure what speed the bbb term runs at Jul 02 06:23:18 probably 57600 or 115200 Jul 02 06:23:20 Yep, 115200 Jul 02 06:23:26 Also I'm using Jul 02 06:23:27 dmesg | egrep --color 'serial|ttyS' Jul 02 06:23:42 usually it shows up as ttyUSB Jul 02 06:23:44 or ttyACM Jul 02 06:23:45 T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyO0 115200 vt102 Jul 02 06:23:46 something like that. Jul 02 06:24:20 Alright cool, I'll try that real quick Jul 02 06:24:32 ttyUSB0 Jul 02 06:30:47 I couldn't get it to come up with the ttyUSB0, I tried the /sbin/getty -L ttyO0 115200 vt102 thingy, it didn't echo anything back to me Jul 02 06:31:11 dmesg | tail tell you anything? Jul 02 06:31:50 [28956.155649] pl2303 5-3:1.0: device disconnected Jul 02 06:31:51 [28974.837606] usb 6-3: new full-speed USB device number 2 using ohci-pci Jul 02 06:31:51 [28974.996818] pl2303 6-3:1.0: pl2303 converter detected Jul 02 06:31:51 [28975.018866] usb 6-3: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Jul 02 06:31:51 [28984.122788] usb 6-3: USB disconnect, device number 2 Jul 02 06:31:51 [28984.122962] pl2303 ttyUSB0: pl2303 converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Jul 02 06:31:53 [28984.122976] pl2303 6-3:1.0: device disconnected Jul 02 06:31:54 nope3000: the getty is on the receiving side... Jul 02 06:31:55 [29005.347461] usb 6-3: new full-speed USB device number 3 using ohci-pci Jul 02 06:31:57 [29005.506700] pl2303 6-3:1.0: pl2303 converter detected Jul 02 06:31:59 [29005.528766] usb 6-3: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Jul 02 06:32:03 yeah, USB0 Jul 02 06:32:06 ttyUSB0 Jul 02 06:32:09 nope3000: use a pastebin in the future... Jul 02 06:32:28 woops, my bad lol, I'll do the getty on the beagle side then Jul 02 06:32:35 nope3000: I cited the relevant line from /etc/inittab that binds a login (a getty) to that serial port Jul 02 06:32:40 Also sorry about the paste Jul 02 06:32:55 permissions on /dev/ttyUSB0 ? Jul 02 06:32:56 it _IS_ alreay bound if you run a debian image Jul 02 06:33:28 easily verified by this on the BBB "ps aux|grep getty" Jul 02 06:33:53 also console=ttyO0,115200 for bootargs ... but if you're not even getting u-boot output, something must be wrong. Jul 02 06:34:06 nope3000: try switching your rx and tx Jul 02 06:34:58 I haven't read scrollback yet, you are using a level shifter in front of that pl2303, right?! Jul 02 06:35:50 http://pastebin.com/PNrwFFq4 Jul 02 06:35:58 There is the getty Jul 02 06:36:50 I'll stress this again, make sure your adapter uses 3.3V logic levels or you will permanently damage the board. Jul 02 06:38:00 nope3000: The other option is that what you think is pin 1 really isn't Jul 02 06:39:00 I only have the RX, TX, and the GND in, that red one is just dangling, also the one I'm using is on the website http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Accessories#Adafruit_4_Pin_Cable_.28PL2303.29 that Shadyman showed me. Jul 02 06:39:03 tbr: It's wired according to the elinux wiki. Ground, RX, TX, no power PL2303-based. Jul 02 06:40:02 Also I read that the pin 1 is the one closest to the ethernet port, also has 'J1' over it Jul 02 06:40:04 ah, ok Jul 02 06:40:15 J1 is just the connector name Jul 02 06:41:05 Lol that makes sense, but I think I still have the pin right, I looked at a lot of pictures Jul 02 06:41:28 ok Jul 02 06:41:30 would never hurt to try swapping tx and rx, though. Jul 02 06:41:33 especially when nothing else works Jul 02 06:41:36 did you try a loop test yet? Jul 02 06:41:52 Lol I'll give it a shot, and I haven't tried a loop test yet Jul 02 06:45:54 Wow, swapping tx and rx worked. Idk why it's opposite of the website Jul 02 06:46:04 :D Jul 02 06:46:16 Sorry for the super huge hassel and thanks so much! Jul 02 06:46:18 rx and tx are relative Jul 02 06:46:32 i.e. rx of the cable should be plugged into tx of the board... Jul 02 06:46:41 so theyre easy to get backwards. Jul 02 06:46:56 <_av500_> XT and XR Jul 02 06:47:10 see. Jul 02 06:47:45 Ah cool, that makes sense, didn't know that Jul 02 06:48:09 lol _av500_ Jul 02 07:12:54 panto: can you help me with the capemgr problems? Jul 02 07:13:17 * panto points at the topic - just ask Jul 02 07:13:55 panto: here is my boot log: http://pastebin.com/xG9c26yy Jul 02 07:15:01 panto: line 319-311 Jul 02 07:15:14 panto: sorry 309-311 Jul 02 07:20:06 BennyB_, what about it? there's a conflict at pin P8.45 Jul 02 07:20:19 which is normal Jul 02 07:20:32 you got two versions of the HDMI virtual capes Jul 02 07:20:39 one with audio, one with not Jul 02 07:20:40 panto: but where does it come from. there is nothin attatched to it Jul 02 07:20:49 virtual capes Jul 02 07:20:55 owch Jul 02 07:21:04 this is just fine, it's part of the normal boot sequence Jul 02 07:21:21 ok Jul 02 07:21:37 I thought this makes trouble Jul 02 07:21:46 no, it doesn't Jul 02 07:23:17 ok, then I'm can level out Jul 02 07:23:33 thanks for the quick help Jul 02 07:46:21 Hi, I want to upgrade from 3.8.7 to 3.15.x. Is there a guideline I can follow? Jul 02 08:20:05 laura_h: RobertCNelson has a good guide to build kernel: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black Jul 02 08:20:34 but he does not reccomend these newer kernels. it seems like 3.8 is the one to go with Jul 02 08:21:30 I'm using 3.8.13 right now. but having som troubles with it. (maybee they are selfmade, but I hope not ;-) ) Jul 02 08:22:18 here is the latest 3.8er thing: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/tree/am33x-v3.8.13.x Jul 02 09:19:11 I have installed several times images on the sd ,and it made alot of partitions , how do I full format the sd card. so I can install a fresh partion ? sorry I know its not a topic for asking in here . but I dont know where to ask I have used google and found nothing relevant Jul 02 09:22:31 okay found it fro mdevice manager Jul 02 09:43:27 hello Jul 02 09:43:53 someone's here? Jul 02 09:44:01 I need help please Jul 02 09:52:25 you need to ask a question for someone to help with the answer Jul 02 09:54:33 I have a beagle xm Jul 02 09:54:49 and build a version of yocto Jul 02 09:54:51 1.4 Jul 02 09:55:01 with kernel 3.4.43 Jul 02 09:55:40 after succeffully booted, I notice that i2c and spi was not enabled in /dev Jul 02 09:56:12 the beagle xm is rev c Jul 02 09:57:07 than i made a patch adding the pin in arc/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3beagle.c Jul 02 09:57:42 and then rebuild Jul 02 09:57:48 but nothing has changed Jul 02 10:17:25 so? Jul 02 10:35:57 is i2c/spi support enabled in your kernel config? Jul 02 10:38:55 how can i see that? Jul 02 10:39:57 i tried to open menuconfig but I can't find configuration for omap3 Jul 02 10:40:52 sbock: omap2plus_defconfig on all modern kernels Jul 02 10:42:25 for i2c/spi /dev/ you need to enable the I2C_CHARDEV option Jul 02 10:44:30 I found CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=y Jul 02 10:44:36 yet set Jul 02 10:46:10 * XorA has no idea then Jul 02 10:48:33 OMAP3_MUX(I2C2_SCL, OMAP_MUX_MODE0 | OMAP_PIN_INPUT_PULLUP), OMAP3_MUX(I2C2_SDA, OMAP_MUX_MODE0 | OMAP_PIN_INPUT_PULLUP), Jul 02 10:48:38 this is the patch Jul 02 10:48:58 in arc/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3beagle.c Jul 02 10:49:35 nothing has changed the tried to add this line: Jul 02 10:49:37 omap_register_i2c_bus(2, 400, NULL, 0); Jul 02 10:49:50 nothing happened this time too Jul 02 10:50:40 something wrong???? Jul 02 11:36:26 Hi Jul 02 11:36:34 is beagle bone black arduino compatible ? Jul 02 11:36:46 lets say, can I put on it some shield that is designed for arduino ? Jul 02 11:37:33 Hello I am trying to isntall Beaglebone drivers on my computer (windows 8.1) and it says dpinst.exe access denied Jul 02 11:37:44 I have disabled drivers signature and still have this Jul 02 11:39:10 mkad: nop, does not work on the pins Jul 02 11:40:26 this is nice https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/arduino-shield-to-beaglebone-black-cape--2 Jul 02 11:40:36 but not in production yet;/ Jul 02 11:40:47 basically I would like to use http://www.digikey.se/product-detail/en/FRDM-FXS-MULTI-B/FRDM-FXS-MULTI-B-ND/4506983 Jul 02 11:41:04 or maybe there is a IMU sensor cap for beagle already ? Jul 02 11:41:10 I cant fine one;/ Jul 02 11:41:26 if i run as admin it says the currender language is not supported bla bla bla. ehh can anyone help me? Jul 02 11:42:59 mesos, maybe no one on this channel uses microsoft products.. dunno Jul 02 11:43:15 mesos, I think windows problems should be supported by microsoft client support Jul 02 11:44:02 its the bb driver issue. they have problems with windows. 8 and also microsoft will not help anyone with any extranal programs. is not of their consern Jul 02 11:46:01 mesos, I am just saying you have to wait for someone who knows more about it... just be patient, there might be ppl using windows like you, or try googling a bit Jul 02 11:46:24 no luck with google but yeah I will wait Jul 02 11:46:31 mesos, installing drivers problem seems like OS problem to me Jul 02 11:46:55 if its not allowing you to install something.. I bet guy who made drivers tested them on Windows Jul 02 11:46:58 nop I have googled it. many people have problems installing the BB driver to their windows 8 Jul 02 11:47:13 windows 7 works fine. but I dont have win 7 at home Jul 02 11:47:19 hm... Jul 02 11:47:30 maybe its certificate, but should be possible to disable Jul 02 11:48:02 I have disabled the signature thingy as it was stated on the internet . no idea though Jul 02 11:48:10 mesos, but do you really need any drivers ? Jul 02 11:48:24 isn't it just a normal uart-usb device ? Jul 02 11:48:34 and storage device? Jul 02 11:49:01 its the BBB connected with usb . and the driver from the official website Jul 02 11:49:14 maybe try connecting it and see what MS windows finds? Jul 02 11:50:25 nothing at all Jul 02 11:50:55 I will try to connect with putty if that lets me . then am fine Jul 02 11:52:20 amm question I have linux installed on the machine as VM. does linux need a driver or it will run automatically with thee sudo shh root@ip ? Jul 02 11:52:26 ssh& Jul 02 11:53:07 mesos, mine does out of the box Jul 02 11:53:26 pff wmware expired Jul 02 11:53:32 mesos, but as I see its using rndis_host so Remote Network Driver Interface Specification (RNDIS) is a Microsoft proprietary protocol used mostly on top of USB. Jul 02 11:53:53 yeah thats why it needs drivers . =/ Jul 02 11:53:54 mesos, funny that it works on my Linux out of the box, but not on latest Windows 8 Jul 02 11:54:05 its windows :p Jul 02 11:54:09 what do you expect :p Jul 02 11:54:16 it's their protocol Jul 02 11:55:32 yeah that is kinda ironic lol Jul 02 11:56:00 if i connect it with ethernet cable it may do any diffrence ? Jul 02 11:57:02 nop dumb windows need the bb drivers to let it use ssh connections Jul 02 11:57:03 how should I knnow :D Jul 02 11:57:19 try Jul 02 11:57:27 but you still need to power it via usb Jul 02 11:58:05 yeah nothing no ssh conenction Jul 02 11:58:06 actually ethernet might work... Jul 02 11:58:47 mesos, try Linux VM ? Jul 02 11:58:54 VirtualBox ? Jul 02 11:58:57 expired licences Jul 02 11:58:57 its free Jul 02 11:59:03 okay let me downlaod Jul 02 11:59:14 and install Debian 8.0 netinst jessie Jul 02 12:00:54 mesos, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads Jul 02 12:01:16 downloading it right now Jul 02 12:01:19 mesos, but if that also does not work on Windows 8 Jul 02 12:01:20 ... Jul 02 12:01:21 xD Jul 02 12:01:30 2mins left. sorry I dont have a fast internet Jul 02 12:01:55 VirtualBox 4.3.12 for Windows hosts x86/amd64 downloading this one Jul 02 12:02:07 k try Jul 02 12:02:09 failing that use a live cd and boot your machine from it lol Jul 02 12:02:24 oh yeah live cd might be better :) Jul 02 12:02:36 I bought everything for that pc of mine to make it high end and i forgot to buy a dvd-rom Jul 02 12:02:40 yeah epic Jul 02 12:02:49 boot from usb ? Jul 02 12:03:09 if the virtrual box does not work i will Jul 02 12:03:51 btw what do you guys prefer on BBB , Debian or Armstrong ? Jul 02 12:04:06 I am biased Jul 02 12:04:10 using Debian since 1993 Jul 02 12:04:30 installing the vm now Jul 02 12:04:33 and I dont even know what Armstrong is Jul 02 12:04:53 mesos, tutorial on Debian installation http://linuxpanda.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/guide-how-to-install-debian-8-jessie-xfce-using-netinst-minimal-iso-step-by-step-with-pictures/ Jul 02 12:04:56 ahh it seems to work Jul 02 12:05:08 I have istalled debian on the bbb ;p Jul 02 12:05:33 have fun Jul 02 12:05:34 :) Jul 02 12:06:33 install Debian to use Window's drivers Jul 02 12:07:17 have to get me an linux image. will download Debian for VB as well. I have deleted umbu image Jul 02 12:08:13 https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ Jul 02 12:08:18 I would go for netinst Jul 02 12:08:21 minimal image Jul 02 12:08:32 but if you feel more comfortable with desktop do whatever you wish Jul 02 12:10:51 yeah , it am not used on using all the time commands Jul 02 12:10:55 i use arch on my bbw and bbb Jul 02 12:11:46 mesos, most likely you can ask installer (netinst) even graphical one to install basic desktop for you Jul 02 12:12:09 mehh I will figure it ou t Jul 02 12:12:12 see ? http://linuxpanda.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/debian_netinst_291.png?w=630 Jul 02 12:12:16 this guy umarked it Jul 02 12:12:33 cause he wanted xfce instead of default gnome Jul 02 12:12:37 what I cant find rigfht now is how to use the VM box Jul 02 12:12:51 I would go with http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_alpha_1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-jessie-DI-a1-amd64-netinst.iso Jul 02 12:13:04 downloading right now Jul 02 12:13:17 oh VM box can be used without help.. but there are guides Jul 02 12:13:53 i had to start the vm thingy to ask me to isntall the iso Jul 02 12:13:55 okay got it Jul 02 12:14:49 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hXiAWIWfb8 Jul 02 12:15:02 or whatever.. google says Jul 02 12:15:07 its okay got it :p Jul 02 12:15:20 I had to start the virtual machine I made to ask me to install the os Jul 02 12:15:26 I was used on doing it before starting it Jul 02 12:16:07 okay now waiting for debian to be downloaded Jul 02 12:16:33 gotta test it a bit on umbu untill is downloaded Jul 02 12:16:52 I cant promise it will work.. like H-H-H suggested live cd would be more assured way Jul 02 12:18:06 if it just run me the ssh command to let me work on my bbb it be fine Jul 02 12:19:16 cant you just power it via the 5v barrel connector and use ssh over the ethernet? Jul 02 12:19:54 H-H-H, he tried Jul 02 12:20:59 did he try powering from barrel connector not usb as my bb does strange things if i use usb to ower it and use the ethernet at same time? Jul 02 12:21:27 I dont have one of those at home . I have to get one from the lab tomorrow Jul 02 12:22:02 we actually made some power regulators for that manner but got only one BBB with me out Jul 02 12:23:32 mesos, men you dont have barrel power supply at home ? Jul 02 12:23:47 no electronic devices around ? Jul 02 12:23:47 :D Jul 02 12:24:03 can I connect it to the ps3 and try ? lol Jul 02 12:24:09 let me check around Jul 02 12:24:53 well check voltage and amps Jul 02 12:24:53 :D Jul 02 12:26:37 found some that do not match . and a vidcap no idea where I got that one lol Jul 02 12:35:22 really no 5 V adapter a thome? Jul 02 12:35:25 wow Jul 02 12:36:36 =/ Jul 02 12:36:46 installing Debian right now Jul 02 12:40:52 ohh god it downloads more stuff now lol :p Jul 02 12:40:52 i have hundreds of those frigin power adaptors from all the useless crap i have had over he years lol i always keep the power adaptors :) Jul 02 12:41:25 mesos, yeah of course "netinst" does Jul 02 12:41:52 H-H-H, same, and even after living aboard not at my home, I have some of those for different things Jul 02 12:43:11 should have not throw away stuff like that -_- I never save old crap. either I give them away or throw them away Jul 02 12:44:40 ohh god more downloads oO. Jul 02 12:44:43 30mins oO Jul 02 12:44:49 what did you select? Jul 02 12:45:15 amm the desktop eviroment .. ohh god can I cancel it / Jul 02 12:45:32 jesus why did i do that .. Jul 02 12:46:02 I assumed you have unlimited bandwidth Jul 02 12:46:02 yeah full desktop is around 1Gb Jul 02 12:46:02 ^^ Jul 02 12:46:43 it be faster to cancel and reinstall Jul 02 12:47:01 probably with lighter desktop or just command line Jul 02 12:47:28 you have nothing, no internet, no linux, no wall 5V adapters... and you want to use arm running linux... Jul 02 12:47:35 ouch Jul 02 12:48:56 I have 4megabits :p Jul 02 12:49:19 sorry I dont own my own house to do that kind of stuff. I be moving out in UK this sempteber so i can start Jul 02 12:49:59 by the way Jul 02 12:50:02 do you have serial-usb cable? Jul 02 12:50:19 you mean the one with the pins ? Jul 02 12:50:27 yeah Jul 02 12:50:29 or jumpers Jul 02 12:50:38 could somebody give me a hint how to upgrade the kernel? Jul 02 12:50:49 well for sure you should not connect 5V or 3V from it Jul 02 12:50:55 somebody already pointed out https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/tree/am33x-v3.8.13.x Jul 02 12:51:01 but.. I would google if connecting it is possible at all Jul 02 12:51:15 maybe there is RX TX somewhere on the board Jul 02 12:51:18 but I am unclear what to do with it... Jul 02 12:51:18 dunno Jul 02 12:51:22 no -_- I just borrowed the thing from the univeristy lab to do some work at home. and it is making me want to throw it out of the window =/ Jul 02 12:51:26 but dont connect high volts to it !! Jul 02 12:51:40 shall I run it on a VM and crosscompile, or run directly on my BBB? Jul 02 12:53:00 non graphical installation is 10 times faster Jul 02 12:53:08 mesos, I also moved, and I travel everywhere with my logic analyzer, bus pirate, breadboard (small one) and jumper, and uart-usb cable :P Jul 02 12:53:31 but I dnt have multi meter with me Jul 02 12:53:40 I am not good with electronics :p I am a programmer. but now I have to learn coz of that project Jul 02 12:54:16 choose ftp.us.debian.org ? Jul 02 12:55:11 no us is too far away :p Jul 02 12:56:13 it has nothing near Cyprus or Greece =/ Jul 02 13:01:38 pff I have to go. I ne back later if need anything extra thanks for all the help Jul 02 13:01:52 I really appreciate Jul 02 13:37:40 I'm having HDMI problems. when I power on with my hdmi moitor attatched the board does not boot. if I put in HDMI plug after boot it only displays jitter Jul 02 13:37:57 <_av500_> hmm Jul 02 13:38:09 if I power on and plug in HDMI right after the blue leds light up it is fine Jul 02 13:38:48 there is an message at debug console. tilcdc 4830e000.fb: timeout waiting for framedone Jul 02 13:39:38 i've googled and there was a fix for hdmi issues, which I checked is already in the 3.8 kernel, but I'm still having this problems. Jul 02 13:40:43 internet says the solution is to have an hdmi-dvi adapter, but mo monitor only has hdmi... Jul 02 13:41:43 <_av500_> thats not the solution Jul 02 13:41:53 <_av500_> hdmi or DVI is the same here Jul 02 13:42:37 I thought so, no drm stuff is displayed here *g* Jul 02 13:44:20 BennyB_, which BB ? Jul 02 13:44:26 BBB Jul 02 13:44:39 I am not support here, but good to know something about my new board Jul 02 13:44:59 BennyB_, default distro ? Jul 02 13:45:05 Armstrong or Debian ? Jul 02 13:45:36 I have rev A5C with an SD card and debian wheezy 3.813-bone 56 Jul 02 13:46:12 BennyB_, I was wondering, how about plugging in usb and checking what /dev/ttyACM0 says ?/ Jul 02 13:46:17 well boot console Jul 02 13:46:38 or maybe getting somehow early boot prints to see why it does not boot Jul 02 13:47:23 http://beagleboard.org/Support/FAQ Jul 02 13:47:29 Why is there no output? Why is it not possible to type into the serial port? Jul 02 13:47:44 looks like there is also serial on board Jul 02 13:47:58 that should show early boot messages or not? Jul 02 13:48:07 boot console via serial debug says this: http://pastebin.com/ZHaTwUtD Jul 02 13:48:49 posi login: Jul 02 13:48:56 did you try logging in? Jul 02 13:48:58 so it boot Jul 02 13:49:11 ther is an error displayed that conflict P8.45 but as panto says that is no problem, it's normal Jul 02 13:49:27 yes I'm able to ssh into Jul 02 13:49:35 my program runs Jul 02 13:49:44 yeah but I was wondering in the case "when it does not boot with hdmi plugged in" Jul 02 13:50:01 I enableds systemd boot, but this error was before the same Jul 02 13:50:29 " when I power on with my hdmi moitor attatched the board does not boot" Jul 02 13:50:29 yes, when hdmi is plugged the power led does not even go on! Jul 02 13:50:38 oh... Jul 02 13:51:14 did you try powering it via 5V barrel instead of USB ? Jul 02 13:51:22 friend of mine sayd it must be a problem with the voltages which are created to power the board 5V ->3.3 -> 1.8 Jul 02 13:51:25 maybe it has not enough power with hdmi ? Jul 02 13:51:57 yeah my cubieboard does not boot when I power from 1A usb and connct SATA disk Jul 02 13:52:04 I need 2A usb adapter Jul 02 13:52:33 it is powert through the pin P9 5 & 6 whit han 30W power adapter Jul 02 13:53:56 so 30W / 5V = 6 Amps ? Jul 02 13:53:59 ouch... Jul 02 13:54:09 than maybe it's not the right way to power it up ? Jul 02 13:54:24 I don't know I am not an expert, I just got mine BBB Jul 02 13:54:40 I would try barrel 5V connector or to power via usb Jul 02 13:55:47 BennyB_, someone earlier here wrote that his BBB does not provide Ethernet and behaves strange when powered from usb only, but does work when powered via 5V barel Jul 02 13:56:14 BennyB_, I mean behaves strange when also Ethernet is plugged in, so maybe the same issue with HDMI Jul 02 13:56:29 no its powered with a 24V 30W power adapter it is upside down on an board with some electronics on it Jul 02 13:56:45 what ?? Jul 02 13:56:52 24V ? Jul 02 13:57:09 the 5 volts are generated by an chip on the board Jul 02 13:57:18 whatever you do, 24V would kill the board imo, and 30/24 is 1.25A thats I guess not enough Jul 02 13:57:24 the 24v are for teh board Jul 02 13:57:32 I know no 24 Jul 02 13:57:34 V Jul 02 13:57:41 are emmited to the bbb Jul 02 13:58:03 Power Adapter DC 5V, 2A, 10W for BeagleBone Black Jul 02 13:58:06 2A Jul 02 13:58:10 you have 1.25A Jul 02 13:58:30 for sure not all peripherals will work, good that it booted ^^ Jul 02 13:58:42 ok, I'll look for a bigger power adapter Jul 02 13:59:36 The recommended supply current is at least 1.2A (or 6W), but at least 2A (or 10W) is recommended if you are going to connect up anything over the USB. Jul 02 13:59:40 citing from website Jul 02 14:01:28 BennyB_, one more thing, don't connect anything that is not in docs, I don't want to recommend anything, its your responsibiity to know how to power it Jul 02 14:03:17 I'm connectiong power through pins P9.5 and P9.6 Jul 02 14:06:26 hah, cool I attatched now a 24V 6.25A power adapter and it worked! IT's a bit like to shoot with cannons on birds, but good to know that POWER was the problem Jul 02 14:07:43 usually it is Jul 02 14:08:02 you need power for those peripherals to function Jul 02 14:08:29 but yeah 6.25A is a bit overkill Jul 02 14:09:14 and if you connect that yourself... Jul 02 14:09:24 and my mistake connect something wrong... Jul 02 14:09:33 you might end up with some fire;] Jul 02 14:09:59 the power is generated through an Recom DC-DC converter Jul 02 14:11:32 my board is powerd with the 24V the recom chip generates the 5V which go to Pin9.5/6 it's in the BBBSRM that you can power BBB through these pins Jul 02 14:12:00 but I wasn't aware that my power adapter was to small Jul 02 14:12:51 they should put in title "in case of problems check your power supply" xD Jul 02 14:18:25 _av500_, you could add to the topic "check your power supply if its sufficient in case of problems" Jul 02 14:19:55 <_av500_> :) Jul 02 15:04:37 the topic should read "first check your power supply for enough watts (2A / 10W reccomended) in case of hdmi problems or any strange problems" Jul 02 15:06:38 thanks for the help, I'm off fore today Jul 02 15:06:52 .. for ... Jul 02 15:06:59 bye Jul 02 16:33:33 I have about 20 units os BBB running with ubuntu kernel 3.8.13-bone30, and all of them have "sporadic reboots", that can change from 30min to 10 days. all reboots comes with previously log messages of "omap_i2c 44e0b000.i2c: controller timed out"; I'm alteady running them with governor "performance" as found on google, but reboots still occours. any hints? should I upgrade the kernel? any other hints? Jul 02 16:35:57 don't know if it makes a difference, but all BBBs have 3g-huawei-modem connection Jul 02 16:38:15 wouldn't hurt to try the latest 3.8.13-bone kernel... Jul 02 16:47:26 vagrantc, do you know the beagle procedure to upgrade the kernel? I mean, I'll have to upgrade remotely using a modem/2g connection Jul 02 16:48:35 wow Jul 02 16:48:36 2g Jul 02 16:48:42 that is slow Jul 02 16:48:55 and you want to upgrade 20 units over 2g ? Jul 02 16:53:05 pzn, there are alot of assumtions here --but you should should just need to copy over your zImage to /boot/uboot/ and corrisponding modules to /lib/modules Jul 02 16:53:35 obviously, test the shit out of it with something in-house with identical hardware/software Jul 02 16:54:02 additionally, i'd recommond something like ansible to do the deploy with Jul 02 16:56:19 pzn, with RobertCNelson's images there are a bunch of scripts in the /boot/scripts directory (or /boot/tools/scripts...?) Jul 02 16:56:53 they are in a git directory, so you may want to pull first Jul 02 17:45:20 mkad, KaaK, c10ud, thanks for the hints, I'll try the upgrade Jul 02 18:43:31 Hello I have installed Debian on my BBB *sd card* and when I try to install ANYTHING (fresh installation) it says the device has no space. the sd card is 8 gbs Jul 02 18:43:35 how is that ? Jul 02 18:44:06 you need to grow the filesystem, Jul 02 18:44:27 look in /opt/scripts/tools Jul 02 18:44:37 let me boot it up again coz I dc it Jul 02 18:46:05 okay I am locked in let me check what you said Jul 02 18:46:51 amm what do i do there ? Jul 02 18:49:30 mesos: find a script which grows the filesystem there Jul 02 18:49:50 grow_partition.sh IIRC Jul 02 18:49:53 I did . but I am new with terminal stuff. how do I run the grow_partition.sh ? Jul 02 18:50:07 ./grow_partition.sh Jul 02 18:50:55 let it run and then reboot. then using "free" check the space you have now' Jul 02 18:53:04 okay rebooting now. let me see if something happened Jul 02 18:54:35 okay now it say I have 356460 Jul 02 18:54:37 hello Beagleboners, is there a recommended powered USB hub that is small and similar to the BBB's form factor ? Jul 02 18:54:44 thats in bytes? Jul 02 18:55:14 coz if yes thats a problem ;p Jul 02 18:55:35 mesos: did you run the script as root? Jul 02 18:55:57 amm no let me run it again Jul 02 18:56:05 I'm sorry, use "df" Jul 02 18:56:18 "free" is for RAM Jul 02 18:57:02 5658360 again this is bytes? Jul 02 18:57:24 mesos: use "df" Jul 02 18:57:31 i did Jul 02 18:57:49 it's in KB Jul 02 18:58:03 so ~5 GB space Jul 02 18:58:17 looks reasonable Jul 02 18:58:29 yeah kb is reasonable ;p Jul 02 18:58:39 yeah those are plenty Jul 02 18:58:43 thanks god bless Jul 02 18:58:49 vicash: I don't know if anyone can get it, but there is a hub listed on http://beaglebonecapes.com customized for BeagleBone Jul 02 18:59:41 I have this one Extended Proto Cape Jul 02 18:59:45 * vicash looks at it Jul 02 19:00:22 still did not install anything on it using bread board for now but it looks amazing even though its a bit big Jul 02 19:02:16 btw did not try yet. byt since we are making a custome cape I can install as many motors as I like right ? Jul 02 19:02:20 anyone thought of baking their own BBB's? Jul 02 19:02:56 Do you folks have any options or products with 2-4 GB RAM, plus WiFi and BlueTooth and 4-6 USB ports? Jul 02 19:05:12 ds2: you mean build one? If yes, then BGA packages might be a deterrent Jul 02 19:05:25 yes, build one Jul 02 19:05:30 BGA's are not an issue Jul 02 19:05:50 [for me they are, but hopefully not for long] Jul 02 19:05:59 the AM335x has a wide enough pitched BGAs, it isn't much of a challenge Jul 02 19:06:13 the DM3730 is a whole different animal Jul 02 19:06:25 I see Jul 02 19:06:32 why do you think BGAs would be a problem? Jul 02 19:07:13 a little difficult to get such parts at my place Jul 02 19:07:26 Oh sourcing, not assembly? Jul 02 19:07:33 yep Jul 02 19:07:59 that I donno about Jul 02 19:08:05 seems like Debian works diffrendly than Armstrong Jul 02 19:08:26 Lighttpd does not work the same way it did on armstrong -_- Jul 02 19:08:37 I cant seem to get to the address neded to see if it works Jul 02 19:12:20 anyhow thanks again for all the help I can figure out the lighttpd my self. cheers and good night/day to all Jul 02 19:14:41 ds2, if you bake BBB with 2Gb RAM i am into it Jul 02 19:15:17 or 1Gb would be more reasonable than just 512 Jul 02 19:15:46 Mind you, the current RAM in BBB is actually 2 Gb :) Jul 02 19:15:55 what? Jul 02 19:16:20 htop shows 495mb Jul 02 19:16:27 I mean 2 Gbit = 512 MB. Jul 02 19:16:53 I mean 2GB Jul 02 19:16:56 or 1GB Jul 02 19:18:03 but on another hand BBB is not meant for servers Jul 02 19:18:04 imo Jul 02 19:18:21 the highest one could pack into a single-chip RAM like the one on the BBB would be 512 MB IIRC Jul 02 19:18:23 if I would want an arm server I would use one of quad-cores and 1Gb ram like cubieboard Jul 02 19:18:38 so more RAM = more RAM chips Jul 02 19:18:55 BBB is more for hardware interfacing imo Jul 02 19:19:01 yeah Jul 02 19:19:06 making a robot Jul 02 19:19:08 etc.. Jul 02 19:19:20 lot of physical I/O Jul 02 19:19:23 I want to build quadcopter Jul 02 19:19:28 but no IMU cap for BBB Jul 02 19:19:41 did you look at BeaglePilot and Erle Robot? Jul 02 19:19:46 no Jul 02 19:19:51 is he selling it? Jul 02 19:20:35 I am not interested in "virtual" concepts but real hardware that can be bought form shop :) Jul 02 19:20:46 I can design my own cap if I want:) Jul 02 19:21:03 I use this MAX21100 https://www.dropbox.com/s/34rh7ns5v9x4t40/20140702_0001.jpg Jul 02 19:21:04 design a cape that is the entire quadrotor :D Jul 02 19:21:10 one of those single PCB quadrotor designs Jul 02 19:21:21 it is nice Jul 02 19:21:23 returns quaterions Jul 02 19:21:48 and its tiny Jul 02 19:21:57 mkad: look at http://erlerobot.com/ Jul 02 19:22:49 yeah Jul 02 19:23:20 pre-order Jul 02 19:27:55 its nice Jul 02 19:30:35 by the way Jul 02 19:30:39 I have a I2C problem Jul 02 19:31:01 i2cget -y 1 0x58 0x20 Jul 02 19:31:02 0xb2 Jul 02 19:31:04 should return 0xb1 Jul 02 21:26:58 more RAM just don't sound appealing Jul 02 22:08:13 is the meta-beagleboard yocto layer still supported? Jul 02 22:08:32 it looks like no commits were made since september Jul 02 22:34:38 yocto Jul 02 22:35:34 openwrt is the best embedded linux Jul 02 22:35:41 period! Jul 02 22:35:47 :D Jul 02 22:36:03 openelec is #2 Jul 02 22:36:11 because movies, thats why Jul 02 23:31:27 afternoon all Jul 02 23:33:57 I have a BBB A5A that will no longer boot, even from the uSD slot. Something possessed me to rename the MLO file in the boot partition of the eMMC. Now, any uSD card I try provides this output: http://pastebin.com/tveRJebZ Jul 02 23:34:41 That particular output is from this image: https://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/wheezy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.2-2013-10-25.img.xz Jul 02 23:35:08 Does anyone have any suggestions? The serial port prints out the "CCCC..." w/o an uSD card. Jul 02 23:36:30 Anyone there? Jul 02 23:40:03 elgroves: that sounds like when the boot partition of the eMMC needed a fsck once... Jul 02 23:41:01 the "CCC..." bit anyways. Jul 02 23:41:28 vagrantc, thanks for the response Jul 02 23:41:35 elgroves: you might want to try a newer image for flashing: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Jul 02 23:41:36 how can I perform the fsck? Jul 02 23:41:50 i'll give it another shot Jul 02 23:42:29 i ended up booting off the SD card and fsck'ed the partition... Jul 02 23:42:44 but if you're having trouble booting from the SD card... Jul 02 23:42:50 I'll build up another uSD and see if that boot. my problem has been that I can't boot from the uSD. I keep getting fat partition errors Jul 02 23:43:17 if you hold down the boot button while booting from uSD, that might help Jul 02 23:43:57 Yeah, that's when I get the FAT partition errors. I should have been clear about that, sorry. That pastebin is the output from a fresh image, while holding the boot button Jul 02 23:44:23 that fresh image is running an old u-boot Jul 02 23:44:35 ah, ok so not so fresh :) Jul 02 23:44:52 I thought the CCCCC was it trying to load the image over serial Jul 02 23:45:06 the debian images are running u-boot 2014.04 Jul 02 23:45:34 I'll try the newer debian image Jul 02 23:45:35 Jonnyw2k: seems like a plausible fallback if the image from the eMMC/uSD aren't bootable... Jul 02 23:45:57 http://blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=bootloaders:u-boot:serial_port_loading_files Jul 02 23:46:09 not beaglebone but u-boot Jul 02 23:46:54 the CCC clearly indicates that the AM335x is trying to boot via UART0 (see TRM chapter 26.1.8.5) Jul 02 23:47:31 http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/starterware/f/790/t/210768.aspx Jul 02 23:47:33 that would make sense, I don't think your (Jonnyw2k and vargrantc) statements are mutually exclusive Jul 02 23:48:33 if my eMMC is dirty (very likely), then the SoC would fallback Jul 02 23:48:59 fallback to the UART, that is Jul 02 23:52:10 the latest image (http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img.xz) prints out this http://pastebin.com/dXBJV6VK Jul 02 23:52:17 so, new image is not working Jul 02 23:53:16 I wish there was a bbb with a 16gb flash memory Jul 02 23:53:31 so i could slap a big ass debian install on it with all the sauce I want Jul 02 23:53:51 running off sd cards sucks Jul 02 23:54:20 running at all is awesome, atm Jul 02 23:55:32 I'll try a different disk Jul 02 23:55:37 maybe it's broken Jul 02 23:56:14 if you want a eight-core server with 256G of RAM and SSD array .. go fuckin buy one .. the beagle is an embedded ARM board not a fucking computer. Jul 02 23:56:29 * veremit kicks the soapbox .. ty. Jul 02 23:56:40 fzombie: You can run off of USB HDDs Jul 02 23:57:05 or 16GB uSD cards, or 16GB USB sticks. Jul 02 23:57:15 And its $40 ..not $400 Jul 02 23:57:18 :D Jul 02 23:57:25 * veremit goes back to lurkin Jul 02 23:57:45 USB HDDs should be reasonably speedy. Jul 02 23:57:57 that might be a good option Jul 02 23:58:06 if the usb works jkridner ;) Jul 02 23:58:13 * veremit babbles Jul 02 23:58:14 :D Jul 02 23:59:28 one reason i stayed on bbb instead of getting a atom and a small solid state is lower power and some arm-only apps I have Jul 02 23:59:49 didn't really want to re-write them so soon, they will be re-written in python at some point Jul 03 00:01:13 seriously though .. the ARM boards rock .. my beagle is good .. my wand is good .. the pi is ok-ish. lol. Jul 03 00:01:29 pi is cheaper which is why its more popular Jul 03 00:02:00 just like that new 18$ soc, people just trying to get as cheap as they can Jul 03 00:02:09 pi is crap though Jul 03 00:02:10 :) Jul 03 00:02:32 the cpu is crap .. the usb is shared .. the ethernet is crap .. the i/os are a pain Jul 03 00:02:39 the only thing good is the hdmi lol Jul 03 00:03:32 the distro is pretty good .. but I think rcn's efforts on the beagle will soon catch up ;D Jul 03 00:03:55 And co. ... I'm sure its not just rcn thats workin their ass off .. Jul 03 00:05:58 building off of mainline Debian is helpful, rather than an oddball fork. Jessie should be pretty darn close to working out of the box. Jul 03 00:06:19 is debian headin towards jessie now? Jul 03 00:06:30 vagrantc: can I post your list of things to do to try to help Jessie? Jul 03 00:06:31 freeze in november Jul 03 00:06:39 cpp; Jul 03 00:06:41 I saw wheezy was getting quite 'mature' Jul 03 00:06:41 cool Jul 03 00:06:57 jkridner: which list? Jul 03 00:07:26 Booting of USB is annoying Jul 03 00:07:27 biggest blocker i would think would be getting usb dma working with multiplatform kernels... Jul 03 00:07:29 essentially the work list I'd gotten from you, but adjusted for public consumption... Jul 03 00:07:41 just feel like I need to give the community more direction on how to help with Debian Jessie. Jul 03 00:07:51 that sounds like a good plan. Jul 03 00:08:03 jkridner: maybe run the draft by me before publishing? Jul 03 00:08:08 not really sure exactly what needs to be done, but we need something. Jul 03 00:08:12 vagrantc: will do. Jul 03 00:08:28 vagrantc: or you can just draft it and I will send from both of us. :-) Jul 03 00:08:49 and BCC the TI kernel team Jul 03 00:10:05 we are extremely lucky there are wonderful people like rcn to help with getting the debian stuff workign! Jul 03 00:10:18 If bb.org licensing money starts to come in a bit, perhaps a few bounties could be done, though I'm not necessarily a big fan of having people wait until money is offered. Jul 03 00:10:28 mrpacket_: and vagrantc :-) Jul 03 00:10:51 I wonder how hard it would be to crack WPA with an FPGA Jul 03 00:11:00 *hard* Jul 03 00:11:34 I have an FPGA cape for my BBB, thought WPA might be a nice little project to dig my teeth into Jul 03 00:11:48 which FPGA cape? Jul 03 00:12:04 Valent fx, uhmm logi-bone? spartan 6 Jul 03 00:12:24 I have some Spartan 3's aattached to mine. Jul 03 00:12:41 but i needed more grunt Jul 03 00:12:44 it was the kickstarter one Jul 03 00:12:58 oh, i just made some of embeds ones Jul 03 00:13:01 got the PCB's made Jul 03 00:13:03 and we were off. Jul 03 00:13:11 hand soldered he parts on. Jul 03 00:13:12 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1575992013/logi-fpga-development-board-for-raspberry-pi-beagl Jul 03 00:15:29 my beagles have been cold for a few weeks Jul 03 00:15:34 as i've had other thigns to mess with Jul 03 00:15:45 i got a dinosaur in the other day Jul 03 00:20:02 dinosaur?! Jul 03 01:10:17 can someone point me to a link where i can purchase the audio sheild for the BBB? i see lots of references to it but i can't seem to find anyone actually selling it Jul 03 01:10:31 /shield/cape Jul 03 01:10:47 jkridner should be able to point you in the right direction :) Jul 03 01:11:27 http://beaglebonecapes.com Jul 03 01:12:12 hmm - again no link to purchase afaict Jul 03 01:15:40 ah, i think i found some Jul 03 01:16:05 wow, not cheap at $54 Jul 03 01:19:49 about par Jul 03 01:28:49 Hi all! Jul 03 01:29:47 I've got some question that I don't realize how to go further Jul 03 01:30:57 k-man what did you want todo with audio? Jul 03 01:31:42 Pratically we have develop on Beaglebone an Application, now we want to project an embedded device with the am3352 processor(for the price) Jul 03 01:33:03 Jonnyw2k, make airplay capable speakers Jul 03 01:33:27 For installing Linux on the chip and use it, what are the hardware specs? I can create my board and boot from SD? Jul 03 01:34:05 Jonnyw2k, and I'm a convert to BBB, so i'd prefer not to use an RPi Jul 03 01:38:46 AleChelli: just get a micro SD at least 2GB and most of the official images will fit on it Jul 03 01:39:23 it's hard to even find cards as small as 8GB around here anymore off the shelf Jul 03 01:56:40 k-man you could always pick up a usb audio device Jul 03 01:57:17 http://amzn.to/1z8WsNs Jul 03 01:57:21 i want to use the usb for wifi though Jul 03 01:57:37 hub? :P Jul 03 01:57:59 maybe build in a wifi router instead then Jul 03 01:58:55 but that all seems rather excessive Jul 03 01:59:14 just get a wandboard .. lol :p Jul 03 01:59:21 wandboard? Jul 03 01:59:33 got a sound codec on the baseboard Jul 03 01:59:34 :) Jul 03 01:59:42 oh Jul 03 01:59:45 if you want build-on wifi .. get the dual-core version :) Jul 03 01:59:51 www.wandboard.org Jul 03 02:00:16 its a bit more expensive .. and there's no emmc, but its a much easier option and probably cheaper too overall Jul 03 02:00:50 cubieboard 3 Jul 03 02:00:55 (cubietruck) Jul 03 02:00:57 all depends wha tyou wanna do with it ofc Jul 03 02:01:24 yeah Jul 03 02:01:45 can't really recommend io with the wand out-the-box Jul 03 02:02:22 hmm Jul 03 02:02:29 http://docs.cubieboard.org/products/start#cubietruck_cubieboard3 Jul 03 02:05:03 ooooo, on an unrelated note, some chinese supplier now stocks my vaping clearomizers :) Jul 03 02:06:15 broadcom chipset, are they any good for linux? or binary blob only? Jul 03 02:06:35 i perfer to use usb dongle for wifi, as i can then choose atheros Jul 03 02:08:49 just be careful of needing firmwares .. and the infamous realtek 2782 or whichever it is .. used in 99% of usb wifi cards now Jul 03 02:09:03 yeah, i hate realtek Jul 03 02:09:32 their other cards are fine .. desktop nics .. perfec t.. its just that one chipset ... Jul 03 02:09:44 really doesn't play well with the am335x Jul 03 02:09:47 after spending monthstyring to get my olimex imx233 wifi board to work, i eventually realised it was the wifi chipset, not me that meant it would never work reliably Jul 03 02:14:13 I've had at least two realtek nics up and break on me so Jul 03 02:14:22 I would hardly call their desktop nics "perfect" Jul 03 02:15:00 never use the RTL8188CU realtek chipset under linux - in my experience its performanec is woeful Jul 03 02:15:15 I think both of them were RTL8168 Jul 03 02:15:24 maybe 8169 Jul 03 02:15:30 it's hard to tell :/ Jul 03 02:15:40 i'm not sure why more linux projects don't use the atheros chipsets, which in my experience seem to be very well supported under linux and work flawlessly Jul 03 02:16:19 last I heard, atheros was all binary blobs and proprietary Jul 03 02:16:34 but maybe that's changed, it has been like 5 years Jul 03 02:16:36 some of the guys at my local hackerspace are experimenting with this: http://www.armdevs.com/WiFiG25.html Jul 03 02:16:51 they so far seem to be getting good performance from the wifi Jul 03 02:17:34 maybe one of these days I should go back to my local hackerspace Jul 03 02:17:40 it felt too cliquey when I last went Jul 03 02:17:48 but again, its that realtek POS so I'm not convinced Jul 03 02:17:59 jpfau, where was that? Jul 03 02:18:05 Hacker Dojo in Mountain View Jul 03 02:18:37 usa? Jul 03 02:18:43 California, yeah Jul 03 02:19:11 i think it can take time to break in but it can be worth it Jul 03 02:19:18 thats what I found Jul 03 02:19:55 yeah, any hackerspace is a family, you really need to know the people Jul 03 02:20:13 yeah Jul 03 02:20:22 and indeed, I hadn't really met anyone there Jul 03 02:20:34 it was rather hard to break into so I just didn't bother going back Jul 03 02:20:36 * jpfau shrugs Jul 03 02:21:17 thats a shame Jul 03 02:27:36 aight .. gotta sleep .. g'nite all I-) Jul 03 02:28:10 night vagrantc Jul 03 02:28:27 oops - wrong person sorry vagrantc Jul 03 02:38:31 * vagrantc waves anyways **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 03 03:00:00 2014