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Jul 20 04:34:26 <edgar000> holaaaaaaa a todos estoy trabajando con una beaglebone black y tengo un conflicto con en adaptador wifi usb
Jul 20 04:35:38 <edgar000> es un tplink 823
Jul 20 04:40:06 <edgar000> hola a todos ....tengo un conflicto entre un adaptador wifi y la beaglebone alguien me podria colaborar con eso
Jul 20 04:41:49 <edgar000> es un tplink 823
Jul 20 04:50:33 <edgar000> holaaaaaaaaaaaa
Jul 20 05:02:23 <mrpackethead> beaglers!
Jul 20 05:21:08 <aaddee> I am reading instructions on booting and flashing from the SD card.  Both sets of instructions say to press the boot button when powering up.  One set says that this will flash, the other says it will boot off the SD card.  Which one is it?
Jul 20 05:53:07 <tbr> aaddee: that's determined by the image on the sd card
Jul 20 05:53:40 <tbr> aaddee: if there is a flasher on it, it will flash, if there is a regular os on it, it will boot.
Jul 20 06:17:36 <aaddee> tbr: ah ok.  That would explain seeing the same steps.  For the images they are talking about one must be a flasher and one must be regular os.  Is there any way to tell what you have other than the website that you download it from?
Jul 20 06:18:16 <aaddee> If it is a regular OS you can still manually copy the files over though doing the same thing as a flasher?
Jul 20 06:27:19 <tbr> aaddee: yes, but it's error prone, hence it was automated
Jul 20 06:40:20 <aaddee> tbr: makes sense now, thanks!
Jul 20 10:21:54 <kruno3> Hi, I have a question about the internal emmc on BBB.
Jul 20 10:23:09 <kruno3> Why is the installed Debian just 2GB large and I can not resize it. The specs sais that the chip is 4GB large.
Jul 20 16:34:58 <_ssl> hi, i want to use wifi with my beaglebone black and found an old DWL-122 wifi stick, but when i plug it in, after a second or so the BBB freezes and i have to toggle power to get it running again. when it's plugged in before booting, it freezes some time into the boot.
Jul 20 16:35:07 <_ssl> how can i debug this?
Jul 20 16:36:44 <_ssl> oh and im running ubuntu 13.10
Jul 20 16:43:29 <woglinde> serial console
Jul 20 16:45:19 <_ssl> woglinde i am connected via SSH, but this connection time outs as soon as the bbb freezes. is there a way to see the dmesg or something from the previous boot?
Jul 20 16:45:38 <_ssl> or do you propose i have to attach a serial cable in hardware?
Jul 20 16:47:06 <vagrantc> _ssl: powered usb hub?
Jul 20 16:47:13 <_ssl> perhaps live streaming the log outputs somehow so i can see whats happening right before it freezes
Jul 20 16:48:05 <_ssl> vagrantc no im plugging it directly into the usb slot on the board. the bbb itself is powered by an AC adapter with more than enough juice ;)
Jul 20 17:02:04 <_ssl> ok, i waas able to get some log output from just before it freezes: http://pastebin.com/1E9yGmFp
Jul 20 17:08:55 <woglinde> its clear now
Jul 20 17:09:01 <woglinde> you need the firmware
Jul 20 17:15:44 <_ssl> heres what i did
Jul 20 17:15:56 <_ssl> sudo apt-get install prism2-usb-firmware-installer
Jul 20 17:16:02 <_ssl> then tried again
Jul 20 17:16:20 <_ssl> log is now showing  prism2_usb: prism2_ru.fw will be processed, size 90662
Jul 20 17:16:29 <_ssl> but freezes again right after that
Jul 20 17:17:31 <_ssl> any ideas on it now, woglinde?
Jul 20 17:31:48 <woglinde> no
Jul 20 17:31:58 <woglinde> only use a newer dongle
Jul 20 20:24:25 <kimster> Hi
Jul 20 21:15:19 <tpw_rules> is there any sort of safety net if i manage to screw up the built in flash?
Jul 20 21:16:17 <tpw_rules> can i force an sd card boot if the bootloader on eMMC is good but the kernel is zorched?
Jul 20 21:18:18 <woglinde> yes
Jul 20 21:18:23 <woglinde> read the TRM and SRM
Jul 20 21:18:42 <woglinde> and the wiki site explaining the boot process
Jul 20 21:18:44 <tpw_rules> i don't know what either of those things are
Jul 20 21:19:14 <woglinde> technical referenz manual and software reference manual
Jul 20 21:19:40 <woglinde> you always get one when you buy an eletronic device
Jul 20 21:19:50 <tpw_rules> i got it as part of the make kit as a gift
Jul 20 21:25:39 <thurgood> basically holding the boot source button with a flasher image on the SD will reinitialize the flash for you
Jul 20 21:25:53 <tpw_rules> okay. that'
Jul 20 21:25:58 <tpw_rules> that's nice to know. i'm not finding any documentation
Jul 20 21:26:32 <woglinde> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack
Jul 20 21:27:34 <myself> ...where exactly are you looking for documentation? lycos?
Jul 20 21:27:45 <tpw_rules> googling
Jul 20 21:28:01 <thurgood> lycos still exists?
Jul 20 21:28:34 <myself> apparently! I was making a joke but I failed.
Jul 20 21:28:56 <thurgood> google is tremendously helpful, if you know what to search for
Jul 20 21:30:04 <myself> https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+black+manual
Jul 20 21:30:08 <myself> whaboom, SRM first hit
Jul 20 21:30:41 <thurgood> keep in mind google also changes your results based on previous searches
Jul 20 21:34:25 <tpw_rules> aww, there's no way to do 1080p?
Jul 20 21:35:01 <woglinde> tpw it is
Jul 20 21:35:08 <thurgood> it will do 1080, but only at 24fps
Jul 20 21:35:25 <tpw_rules> that's silly
Jul 20 21:35:33 <thurgood> and without audio :/
Jul 20 21:35:49 <myself> thurgood: they do, but I try to go incognito before doing such JFGI searches just to make sure
Jul 20 21:36:26 <thurgood> graphics is not a strong point of the bbb, unfortunately
Jul 20 21:37:23 <thurgood> the pi has better graphics, but is lacking in other areas
Jul 20 21:37:53 <tpw_rules> ooh, it has 2x can interfaces. are those lines brought out on the headers? they're not mentioned in the manual
Jul 20 21:38:09 <tpw_rules> i just want a 1080p desktop for my monitor. i guess 24fps is fine for a gui
Jul 20 21:38:25 <tpw_rules> i'll have to write a driver for socketcan
Jul 20 21:40:28 <tpw_rules> that is extremely disappointing though
Jul 20 21:41:09 <tpw_rules> is it a limitation of the chip i guess?
Jul 20 21:41:25 <lol> Hello, anyone around?
Jul 20 21:41:42 <tpw_rules> they're all out to lunch
Jul 20 21:41:57 <Guest67340> ah
Jul 20 21:42:14 <thurgood> the pixelclock only runs so fast :/
Jul 20 21:42:28 <tpw_rules> blast
Jul 20 21:42:49 <Guest67340> Anyone use serial communication from userspace?
Jul 20 21:42:57 <tpw_rules> the pi doesn't have a cpu powerful enough to do anything
Jul 20 21:43:15 <thurgood> Guest67340: sure
Jul 20 21:43:37 <woglinde> tpw_rules I wonder why you need to write a driver there is already one
Jul 20 21:44:31 <Guest67340> thurgood, how would I go about accessing the registers for the uarts through dev/mem?
Jul 20 21:44:46 <tpw_rules> woglinde: ahh, i suppose so
Jul 20 21:45:17 <Guest67340> Is it even possible?
Jul 20 21:45:39 <Guest67340> or is there a better approach?
Jul 20 21:46:56 <Guest67340> I've seen many people enable them first through a device tree overlay, but if I can avoid this I would like to
Jul 20 21:47:13 <thurgood> from userspace? you don't access them directly, try the various tc(get/set)attr flags
Jul 20 21:50:44 <Guest67340> thurgood: I'm not familiar with those, got a good source I can look at?
Jul 20 21:51:01 <thurgood> you may need to be root to do  some of it though, unless you set up your udev rules
Jul 20 21:51:31 <thurgood> Guest67340: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-Programming-HOWTO/
Jul 20 21:52:27 <Guest67340> Thanks
Jul 20 21:55:14 <thurgood> n/p
Jul 20 22:02:00 <wmat> wow, I forgot the tldp was out there still
Jul 20 22:02:42 <woglinde> wmat haha
Jul 20 23:42:55 <AYo> Hello
Jul 20 23:43:09 <AYo> Anyone know about serial communication on the bbb?
Jul 20 23:51:12 <AYo> Anyone can help me with uart problems?
Jul 21 00:05:58 <JViz_> is there an equivalent to the raspberry pi noIR camera for beagle?
Jul 21 00:07:40 <AA_> Anyone have experience with uart?
Jul 21 00:09:43 <nyt-> sure
Jul 21 00:10:01 <nyt-> you going to actually ask a questin
Jul 21 00:10:08 <AA_> yup
Jul 21 00:10:08 <nyt-> might help you get a reply
Jul 21 00:11:14 <AA_> I have one of the new bbb, and I was just wondering how I would go about accessing the uarts from the userspace(a c program)
Jul 21 00:11:29 <nyt-> load overlay
Jul 21 00:11:34 <nyt-> open tty
Jul 21 00:11:40 <nyt-> same as you would any other uart in linux
Jul 21 00:11:55 <AA_> I've never worked with uart before
Jul 21 00:12:09 <nyt-> its like any other file descriptor in unix
Jul 21 00:12:11 <nyt-> you read and write
Jul 21 00:12:15 <AA_> the kernel knows how to handel reading and writing to the same file?
Jul 21 00:12:20 <AA_> handle*
Jul 21 00:12:27 <nyt-> yes
Jul 21 00:12:53 <nyt-> https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone#uart if you want to use ruby
Jul 21 00:13:05 <AA_> is it possible to skip the overlay and access the pin from mmap
Jul 21 00:13:10 <AA_> ?
Jul 21 00:13:14 <nyt-> no
Jul 21 00:13:30 <nyt-> loading overlay is easy
Jul 21 00:13:39 <AA_> okay
Jul 21 00:14:00 <nyt-> echo BB-UARTX > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots
Jul 21 00:14:06 <nyt-> where X is the uart device #
Jul 21 00:15:03 <AA_> I looked in dev and all uart ports are accessible? I read that some ports are not included by default
Jul 21 00:15:17 <nyt-> the docs will give you all the info needed
Jul 21 00:15:20 <nyt-> you can read the srm
Jul 21 00:15:56 <nyt-> some uart pins will be used by the hdmi pins
Jul 21 00:15:57 <JViz_> if you wanted to access the pins directly, couldn't you change the pinmux?
Jul 21 00:15:58 <nyt-> if youre using hdmi
Jul 21 00:16:10 <nyt-> no pinmux in new distro
Jul 21 00:16:19 <JViz_> whaaaaaaat?
Jul 21 00:16:31 <nyt-> all dtbs now
Jul 21 00:18:14 <AA_> Thank you very much nyt
Jul 21 00:18:21 <nyt-> np
Jul 21 00:28:11 <JViz_> nyt-: now everything works through gpios?
Jul 21 00:30:50 <JViz_> it used to be that if you pinmuxed for gpios that they would show up in kernel debug. you can always access them that way now?
Jul 21 00:39:42 <JViz_> device tree is really neat
Jul 21 00:41:51 <JViz_> i wish i had this 2 years ago
Jul 21 00:53:02 <Kingsinnersoul> hi. anyone here?
Jul 21 00:54:10 <Kingsinnersoul> anyone is available for a chat about the beagle and video?
Jul 21 00:56:49 <myself> don't ask to ask, just ask.
Jul 21 01:01:31 <Kingsinnersoul> Thanks
Jul 21 01:02:13 <Kingsinnersoul> So I came across the OmniVision OV2640 camera project for the Arduino board.
Jul 21 01:02:20 <Kingsinnersoul> and I got the OV2640 camera
Jul 21 01:02:43 <Kingsinnersoul> http://www.arducam.com/camera-modules/2mp-ov2640/
Jul 21 01:03:06 <Kingsinnersoul> any idea if, and how, to port their code to the beagle?
Jul 21 01:09:42 <myself> 1: Read the libraries that interface to their camera.
Jul 21 01:10:21 <myself> 2: Read the beaglebone SRM
Jul 21 01:10:27 <myself> 3: If it's not obvious yet, stop.
Jul 21 01:13:26 <Kingsinnersoul> SRM?
Jul 21 01:13:49 <veremit> beagleboard.org
Jul 21 01:15:57 <myself> Try Google for things like "beaglebone black manual"
Jul 21 01:16:08 <myself> there might actually be documentation out there for reading
Jul 21 01:47:08 <cduncan64> Hello All!
Jul 21 01:48:08 <cduncan64> Anybody here want to help me with a new BBB install problem?
Jul 21 01:49:05 <cduncan64> I keep running into deadends using the getting started webpage
Jul 21 02:25:44 <BobCat> what are the deadends?
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