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Jul 29 07:04:15 <kj4> hello- when booted from eMMC normally, can a card in the microSD slot be mounted, and used for storage?
Jul 29 07:06:16 <LetoThe2nd> sure, why not?
Jul 29 07:07:33 <woglinde> kj4 why did you belevie it might be not possible?
Jul 29 07:24:39 <kj4> sorry about that!  I was about to respond and bbb locked up on me.  I plugged a 1GB microSD in the slot and it died a few secs later
Jul 29 07:25:06 <kj4> i had a USB drive in the usb host port as well, mounted.  might have been a power issue
Jul 29 07:27:41 <kj4> i'm having too much fun with this puppy lol
Jul 29 07:53:37 <Rotti> hi
Jul 29 08:04:46 <kj4> hello Rotti
Jul 29 09:54:20 <kinkazu> hi all
Jul 29 09:58:22 <kj4> hello
Jul 29 11:08:15 <jhn> D/L the latest bootable uSD image from beagle.org. Not the eMMC flasher variant. After mounting I _expect_ to see a standard root wih the usual bin, dev, etc, home, lib, opt, usr… directories. This is not the case, can someone explain why?
Jul 29 11:08:52 <av500> ?
Jul 29 11:08:55 <av500> mounting? where?
Jul 29 11:10:16 <jhn> D/L, extracted the image and mounted it on my host.
Jul 29 11:10:37 <tbr> the image has a partition table, you are aware of that?
Jul 29 11:10:40 <av500> there are 2 partitions on the card
Jul 29 11:10:46 <av500> one FAT, one ext
Jul 29 11:11:32 <jhn> Aha! that was the missing tip! Thx!
Jul 29 11:12:07 <jhn> * was also astonished by the small size of the mounted image..
Jul 29 11:15:50 <tbr> depends on the distro. the Angstrom image is quite small, as it's a real embedded distro.
Jul 29 11:16:37 <jhn> OK, got that, the FAT is the one used during boot i presume?
Jul 29 11:17:04 <tbr> it's where MLO and U-Boot live, yes
Jul 29 11:17:42 <jhn> Using Debian, the fat has approx 100 MB, confirm MLO and uboot
Jul 29 11:19:11 <jhn> what type of ext is the second?
Jul 29 11:21:53 <woglinde> kpartx
Jul 29 11:22:06 <woglinde> is the tool you want to use
Jul 29 11:25:18 <jhn> Unfortunately not available for my OS.
Jul 29 11:28:30 <woglinde> vm's for the win
Jul 29 11:29:30 <jhn> I I would trust them…
Jul 29 14:31:46 <Backup> Good day, I want to backup my Beaglebone Black emmc (running Ubuntu) on my micro SD card. I followed this approach: http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Extracting_eMMC_contents  However, my beaglebone black boots normally. I dont that "notice USR0 will (after about 20 seconds) start to blink steadily,". What could be wrong?
Jul 29 14:45:04 <Naikrovek> Does anyone know which GPIO are left after connecting a 4D Systems 7" Touch LCD Cape available from SparkFun ?  I guess another way to ask this would be to ask if that cape uses the same pins that the HDMI virtual cape uses.
Jul 29 14:45:46 <Naikrovek> There's no video chip on this display so I'm assuming that it just piggybacks on HDMI.
Jul 29 15:03:19 <smurray> Naikrovek: the used pins are shown at http://elinux.org/4D_4.3_LCD_CAPE
Jul 29 15:04:24 <Naikrovek> same for 7 inch display, then?  Gonna assume yes.
Jul 29 15:04:27 <Naikrovek> smurray: thank you very much.
Jul 29 15:07:05 <smurray> Naikrovek: if you mean the CircuitCo LCD7, it looks the same
Jul 29 15:07:49 <Naikrovek> 4D systems make a 7" display, I'm talking about that one.  I'm pretty sure they'll both use the same pins.
Jul 29 15:08:18 <smurray> on 4D's webpage it says its s/w compatible with the CircuitCo cape, so it'd have to be
Jul 29 15:08:26 <Naikrovek> yup
Jul 29 15:08:34 <Naikrovek> thanks again sir/madam
Jul 29 15:08:42 <smurray> no problemo
Jul 29 15:08:49 <Naikrovek> s/sir\/madam/human/;
Jul 29 15:30:44 <faa> hello, for RS232 converter (MAX3232CPE+) need +5v, where you can take them? at pin number 3 (serial debug) only 2.5
Jul 29 15:32:55 <Humpelstilzchen> faa: what Board are you talking about and you don't plan to connect a 5V IC, or?
Jul 29 15:33:58 <faa> BeagleBone Black rev 0A5C
Jul 29 15:34:52 <Humpelstilzchen> aah ok, looks like the max3232 can take 3V, but then why connect to 5V?
Jul 29 15:37:03 <Humpelstilzchen> faa but to answer your question: you can take 5V..or 3V from the expansion headers
Jul 29 15:37:12 <faa> converter built on the template and working on raspbbery pi with +5, on the BeagleBone not work :(
Jul 29 15:37:55 <Humpelstilzchen> check the BBB SRM for the p) Expansion header
Jul 29 15:38:02 <Humpelstilzchen> P9
Jul 29 15:41:13 <faa> Humpelstilzchen: thanks, took P9 first time apparently poluchilsya unreliable contact :)
Jul 29 16:06:29 <w0lt> I was hoping someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong with a BB-Black...
Jul 29 16:06:55 <w0lt> It only boots up to a CLI, instead of linux window..
Jul 29 16:06:59 <myself> don't snort it, it's a dev board, not an inhalable powder
Jul 29 16:10:24 <w0lt> I have tried to l oad the Angstrom image into the e MMC using the documented procedure but no joy..
Jul 29 16:27:55 <jhn> What kind of BBB do you have?
Jul 29 17:56:07 <varad> I'm getting 'warning: Invalid remote reply: ?' while connecting to openocd  from gdb on my BeagleBone (using xds100v2 adapter). Any pointers?
Jul 29 19:33:35 <Blazer> Hello, anyone know where I can get 10--20 Beaglebone White's?
Jul 29 19:38:35 <jhn> beagleboard.org does list distributors.
Jul 29 19:40:22 <mistawright> hi guys i have been playing around with servos with my beaglebone black from the command line and wanted to know what was the recommended way for me to control a servo based on angle using the beaglebone black?
Jul 29 19:42:16 <jhn> 1,5 msec center +- 0,5 msec, frequency approx 20 Hz.
Jul 29 19:44:37 <mistawright> jhn, I have used arduino's and am used to just being able to pass an angle to a function. I never realized what was going on behind the scenes. I would like to be able to recreate something like that by writing my own function. have been searching for examples but may be wording things incorrectly
Jul 29 19:45:15 <zump> mistawright: look up pwm, hobby servo control
Jul 29 20:02:19 <mistawright> zump, i have been researching but cant seem to figure it out
Jul 29 20:04:21 <jhn> http://hackaday.com/2014/03/07/web-controlled-servo-from-a-beaglebone-black/
Jul 29 20:04:39 <myself> take apart their functions and libraries step by step?
Jul 29 20:09:51 <mistawright> yeah looks like they are only worried about the duty cycle. once the period is set anyway
Jul 29 20:18:53 <jhn> The period is important for some breed of servos.
Jul 29 20:24:01 <mistawright> once i set the period to 20000000 i just had to adjust the duty cycle i believe which worked well enough on my futaba servo
Jul 29 20:24:17 <mistawright> i just need it to be adjusted based on what will be sent through an android application
Jul 29 20:32:06 <Laurenceb__> hi
Jul 29 20:32:09 <Laurenceb__> http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/latest/Docs/Hardware/BONE_SCH.pdf
Jul 29 20:32:14 <Laurenceb__> is R3 ~ zero ohm?
Jul 29 20:32:42 <Laurenceb__> im wondering if i can run BBB off lipo and power usb host with lipo voltage
Jul 29 20:33:47 <Shadyman> just going by memory, I don't believe it can, but I'm sure someone who knows what they're talking about may have a different answer :)
Jul 29 20:34:45 <Laurenceb__> well SYS_VOLT must be at lipo voltage
Jul 29 20:48:00 <hiredman> has anyone booted se4l on their beaglebone yet?
Jul 29 20:48:05 <Laurenceb__> is there anyway to monitor the battery voltage on BBB?
Jul 29 20:56:03 <ds2> Laurenceb_: as-is w/o more hw, no.
Jul 29 20:56:20 <ds2> easy enough to slap on a sot-23 sized part to do it
Jul 29 20:56:54 <Laurenceb__> FET + potential divider?
Jul 29 20:57:21 <ds2> they sell SOT-23 sized parts that do it all
Jul 29 20:57:41 <ds2> and are speced so the input can be constantly driven
Jul 29 20:57:49 <ds2> with a FET, you still need an ADC
Jul 29 20:58:08 <Laurenceb__> sure, theres ADC on the BBB
Jul 29 20:58:21 <Laurenceb__> i thought there was a connection to the battery?
Jul 29 20:58:32 <Laurenceb__> or is that on origional beagleboard?
Jul 29 20:58:38 <ds2> there is a connection to the battery
Jul 29 20:58:41 <ds2> the problem is this -
Jul 29 20:58:52 <ds2> the ADC cannot be driven if the AM3358 is not powered up
Jul 29 20:59:04 <ds2> to violate that rule is to fry the poor AM3358
Jul 29 20:59:22 <Laurenceb__> hmm
Jul 29 20:59:26 <Laurenceb__> i dont understand
Jul 29 20:59:29 <ds2> so you could try to sequence it with a PFET but, why risk it
Jul 29 20:59:43 <ds2> the AM3358 does not like any of its pins driven if it is not powered up
Jul 29 20:59:45 <Laurenceb__> where is the schematic is the connection?
Jul 29 20:59:47 <Laurenceb__> yes
Jul 29 21:00:00 <ds2> you have the board in front of you?
Jul 29 21:00:20 <Laurenceb__> no its at work atm
Jul 29 21:00:29 <ds2> okay
Jul 29 21:00:49 <ds2> look for 4 through hole, 0.1 center pads toward one end of the board
Jul 29 21:00:51 <ds2> it is not populated
Jul 29 21:00:54 <Laurenceb__> oh sure
Jul 29 21:00:56 <ds2> the SRM has the pin outs
Jul 29 21:01:01 <Laurenceb__> i have that connected to my lipo cell
Jul 29 21:01:03 <Laurenceb__> and running
Jul 29 21:01:08 <ds2> oh
Jul 29 21:01:10 <ds2> then?
Jul 29 21:01:12 <Laurenceb__> but i wanted to add battery voltage monitoring
Jul 29 21:01:26 <ds2> the monitoring is done on the PMIC but AFAIK, it is not hooked up
Jul 29 21:01:38 <ds2> it is a QFP so a good 'scope....
Jul 29 21:01:45 <Laurenceb__> ive read the datasheet, it doesnt output voltage over the i2c
Jul 29 21:02:01 <Laurenceb__> but someone said on forums that there is vbat to an adc pin
Jul 29 21:02:08 <ds2> hmm? maybe i am not understanding you
Jul 29 21:02:09 <Laurenceb__> the schematics are very long....
Jul 29 21:02:21 <Laurenceb__> maybe its hiding in there somewhere
Jul 29 21:02:25 <ds2> there might be a monitoring ADC on the PMIC
Jul 29 21:02:47 <ds2> let me pull up a datasheet
Jul 29 21:03:58 <ds2> the mux in on the pmic needs to be hooked up (maybe via a divider) to the battery
Jul 29 21:04:03 <ds2> that is not done on the BBB
Jul 29 21:04:35 <ds2> bbl
Jul 29 22:15:03 <chanlevan> Hello, I'm new with BeagleBone Black and I got problem with it.
Jul 29 22:15:15 <chanlevan> I hopw you guys can help me solve it
Jul 29 22:15:17 <chanlevan> thanks a million
Jul 29 22:24:02 <chanlevan> Hello
Jul 29 22:24:12 <chanlevan> I have 1 new BeagleBone black
Jul 29 22:24:32 <chanlevan> I tried to partition it as the guidline
Jul 29 22:24:49 <chanlevan> after I finished, I unplug it
Jul 29 22:25:12 <chanlevan> from that time when I try to connect the BeagleBone Black again to my laptop
Jul 29 22:25:24 <chanlevan> it is not recognized
Jul 29 22:25:41 <chanlevan> and the ethernet always shows Wired network disconnected
Jul 29 22:25:57 <chanlevan> Anybody can help me ?
Jul 29 22:26:01 <chanlevan> Thanks a million.
Jul 29 22:30:01 <thurgood> chanlevan_:  does it boot?
Jul 29 22:45:59 <Naikrovek> Is there some magic sauce to using the GPIO on the BBB?  I'm trying to use P8_19 and P8_20, and they're always low and high respectively no matter what I have tried so far.
Jul 29 22:46:11 <Naikrovek> I'm clearly missing something; can someone tell me what that might be?
Jul 29 23:52:28 <beak> hello anyone here?
Jul 29 23:53:34 <beak> ???
Jul 29 23:54:18 <vagrantc> not anymore.
Jul 29 23:58:07 <A1A1> anyone know the status of http://www.beagleboard.org/project/SensorCape/  ??
Jul 29 23:58:23 <A1A1> CAn I buy this sensor cape anywhere?
Jul 29 23:58:47 <veremit> have you checked the vendors list on that site?
Jul 29 23:58:59 <AquaDeny> Hello - I'm new and bought a BBB... now I got it and want to code something by following and using some examples.. but i don't know what ide i've to use... hope someone can help me? CCS? Eclipse? Windows? Linux?
Jul 29 23:59:18 <veremit> vi .. lol jk :p
Jul 29 23:59:24 <veremit> nano works
Jul 29 23:59:29 <veremit> and gcc
Jul 29 23:59:43 <veremit> you should find some easy tutorials on 'hello world' in c
Jul 29 23:59:45 <A1A1> sorry , please help: where can I find this vendors list for sensor cape?
Jul 30 00:00:41 <AquaDeny> Yeah I found a lot of tutorials but dont know how to compile
Jul 30 00:09:12 <Naikrovek> AquaDeny: compiling isn't too hard.  you want to code ON the BBB itself?  command line 'gcc' and makefile will compile for you.
Jul 30 00:09:46 <Naikrovek> if you're new at programming entirely i wouldn't necessarily suggest a language that requires compilation to start with.  depends on your goal, i suppose.
Jul 30 00:10:06 <AquaDeny> I would prefer a ide like eclipse if possible?
Jul 30 00:11:01 <Naikrovek> Eclipse is too memory intensive to run directly on the BBB, but you can run it on your more powerful desktop PC and then have it actually compile on the BBB, iirc.  derekmolloy.ie has a page about that, and some videos.  let me find the links.
Jul 30 00:11:39 <Naikrovek> what language are you wanting to use
Jul 30 00:11:43 <veremit> whats it that the Pi uses? Python?
Jul 30 00:11:54 <veremit> could get that installed
Jul 30 00:11:57 <Naikrovek> Python, C, Java, Perl, C++
Jul 30 00:12:12 <Naikrovek> pi is full linux too.  they want you to start with python, though.
Jul 30 00:12:47 <veremit> I wanna start some python .. soon .. :)
Jul 30 00:12:53 <veremit> now its C and perl :/
Jul 30 00:12:56 <Naikrovek> python enthusiasm turns me off of python so much.  if it were half as good as everyone says it would be far and away the best language ever written, and it isn't.
Jul 30 00:12:57 <AquaDeny> Okay- thanks atm i follow this one http://jkuhlm.bplaced.net/hellobone/ ... but with this it isnt possible to compile PRU code right?
Jul 30 00:13:17 <veremit> you'll need something lower level for the Pru I thought
Jul 30 00:13:39 <Naikrovek> c and perl are awesome.  C for the PRU i believe.  It's a microcontroller.
Jul 30 00:13:52 <Naikrovek> Perl is especially awesome and underappreciated of late.
Jul 30 00:14:23 <Naikrovek> <-- C#, Java, Perl, and JavaScript guy.
Jul 30 00:14:49 <Naikrovek> Is there some magic sauce to using the GPIO on the BBB?  I'm trying to use P8_19 and P8_20, and they're always low and high respectively no matter what I have tried so far.
Jul 30 00:14:53 <Naikrovek> I'm clearly missing something; can someone tell me what that might be?
Jul 30 00:15:20 <Naikrovek> Is there some GPIO set up that must be done in order to make pins available for use?
Jul 30 00:24:59 <ds2> PRU is best programmed in assembly
Jul 30 00:31:35 <AquaDeny> ds2; Do u know if its possible to compile pru part on windows?
Jul 30 00:31:52 <ds2> i think so
Jul 30 00:33:41 <AquaDeny> Did u code something for the pru?
Jul 30 00:37:49 <AquaDeny> Did i see it correct that i only can use 15 pins from GPIO on pru0?
Jul 30 00:48:03 <smurray> AquaDeny: see the table on http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2
Jul 30 00:48:57 <smurray> AquaDeny: you can get 14 output / 15 input on pru1, pru0 is fewer
Jul 30 01:24:40 <AquaDeny> Thanks
Jul 30 01:47:02 <Naikrovek> ugh.  i'm starting to even wonder if it's possible to USE the damn GPIO at all on the BBB.  nothing is working
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