**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 09 03:00:00 2014
Oct 09 06:27:24 <embed> Good morning all, I tried to flash emmc to our cloned bbb board with this BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.20.img. When i apply power after removing SD card. i hang in filesystem check , see log "http://pastebin.com/tyRhQh0r". how to overcome this check?
Oct 09 06:29:52 <LetoThe2nd> this doesn't look like a fsck, but the try to open something on ttyUSB0 (which fails)
Oct 09 06:37:23 <embed> letoThe2nd :  Am sorry , I copied that log after disconnected debug port thats why its showing "Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0!
Oct 09 06:37:23 <embed> "
Oct 09 06:43:23 <embed> letoThe2nd :  Actually it hung up here " systemd-fsck[85]: Angstrom: clean, 48938/112672 files, 272096/449820 blocks
Oct 09 06:43:23 <embed> "
Oct 09 06:43:50 <LetoThe2nd> embed: this still doesn#t look like an fsck, just like it doesn't open a getty after that
Oct 09 06:58:48 <MK_FG> embed, I think systemd doesn't output all boot info to your console, there should be much more of it
Oct 09 07:36:11 <embed> letoThe2nd & MK_FG : please see this log " http://pastebin.com/tASUbGML "  this happen after sometimes
Oct 09 07:38:19 <LetoThe2nd> embed: no idea what you'Re doing there, sorry (and actually no time to dig deeper here)
Oct 09 07:42:07 <embed> MK_FG : can you sort out ??
Oct 09 07:43:40 <MK_FG> embed, Looks like some kernel bug, maybe worth checking if it might be fixed in newer version (with rcn patches)
Oct 09 07:44:24 <MK_FG> But there's still no output from systemd boot process, as you'd expect on console, and no journal either
Oct 09 07:45:27 <MK_FG> embed, Here's what I get on uart - https://ezcrypt.it/5I9n#LS90p7zuZBFlpQ9cjXc8cxx5
Oct 09 07:45:48 <MK_FG> (scroll to the end, where systemd stuff starts)
Oct 09 07:46:10 <MK_FG> I think you might want to look at system.conf and journald.conf in /etc/systemd for how to enable that
Oct 09 07:46:29 <MK_FG> Or maybe just check out journal in /var/log/journal on sd card
Oct 09 07:46:46 <MK_FG> (if flush is often enough there)
Oct 09 07:46:58 <MK_FG> (and enabled at all)
Oct 09 07:51:39 <embed> MK_FG : SD card boot works fine. But when i flash the same image  to emmc am getting this type of log.
Oct 09 07:52:03 <MK_FG> This log does not show what goes wrong with systemd
Oct 09 07:52:32 <MK_FG> It'd help *a lot* to see systemd journal or what it outputs to console
Oct 09 07:52:33 <embed> I got the same log while fusing the same image to SD card
Oct 09 07:52:40 <MK_FG> Otherwise I've no idea what happens there
Oct 09 07:53:08 <MK_FG> Read what I wrote above about how to enable (or access) these logs
Oct 09 07:53:31 <embed> yes i will  that follow
Oct 09 07:53:48 <MK_FG> And if I had to guess, it's probably some entry in your fstab, but again, logs should show it very clearly
Oct 09 08:01:27 <embed> MK_FG : There are num of variables , all disabled in system.conf and journald.conf , Can you post your conf files??
Oct 09 08:02:58 <MK_FG> Mine are pretty much default - all settings there are commented-out
Oct 09 08:04:12 <MK_FG> I think in my case systemd just shows all that due to some console=* cmdline arg (and starts serial getty there)
Oct 09 08:04:22 <embed> here is mine "http://pastebin.com/sf0jycph"
Oct 09 08:05:06 <MK_FG> Also all-defaults in your case
Oct 09 08:05:21 <embed> MK_FG : yes
Oct 09 08:05:37 <MK_FG> I'd read up "man journald.conf" on ForwardToKMsg= and ForwardToConsole=
Oct 09 08:05:59 <MK_FG> Either one seem to be what you might want (what you see in console is kmsg)
Oct 09 08:06:30 <embed> I couldn't get you MK_FG
Oct 09 08:06:46 <MK_FG> Which statement?
Oct 09 08:07:55 <embed> the above last two statement
Oct 09 08:08:38 <MK_FG> What you see in http://pastebin.com/tASUbGML is kernel log (kmsg)
Oct 09 08:09:11 <MK_FG> So I'm suggesting you to read up docs on ForwardToKMsg= and ForwardToConsole= options in journald.conf
Oct 09 08:10:11 <embed> yes, this is clear enough.
Oct 09 08:10:19 <MK_FG> First one should probably make journal output visible there, in particular, but last one (or figuring out why there's no getty there) might be a better way
Oct 09 10:00:31 <raj_> hi
Oct 09 10:15:52 <amila> hi, i would like to know how to connect the BBB to the router? as i am new, when i connect the BBB to the router, will it get internet connection automatically? Or do i need to make some settings?
Oct 09 10:16:40 <av500> no
Oct 09 10:16:43 <vvu> if your router has DHCP server active it will give an IP to the BBB so u will have internet connection
Oct 09 10:16:44 <av500> just hook it up
Oct 09 10:16:52 <av500> it should DHCP nicely
Oct 09 10:18:52 <MK_FG> If "internet connection" would also mean that it's port 22 will be accessible to anyone there, might be a good idea to change root password first ;)
Oct 09 10:19:42 <av500> I assume a DSL behind a NAT
Oct 09 10:27:25 <amila> thnx guys, will give a try :)
Oct 09 10:51:45 <amila> Hi, is there a way to send BBB events to a remote server using javascript? (BBB running Debian)
Oct 09 10:53:32 <KotH> amila: yes
Oct 09 10:53:43 <KotH> amila: js is a programming language like any other
Oct 09 10:54:00 <KotH> amila: you can write all kinds of programs with it, even those that speak to other computers
Oct 09 11:01:25 <amila> KotH: thanx for ur reply mate. as i am new, is there any tutorial to watch or some important information that i can get? I successfully done with ios push notifications. Now i am trying to send BBB events to our own server and save them to analyze later
Oct 09 11:02:46 <KotH> amila: well.. beside learning how to program and computers in general?
Oct 09 11:03:10 <KotH> amila: maybe you should tackle some easier problem first
Oct 09 11:03:36 * KotH misses the times when kids were happy when their transistor circuit blinked a LED
Oct 09 11:05:18 <amila> koth: no mate i think you didn't get me. I am good at programming, but this is the first time i am dealing with electronics. So i would like to use inbuilt cloud 9 and node js to access a remote server. Thats why i was asking about a tutorial o r smthng. Appriciate your help.cheers
Oct 09 11:06:18 <KotH> amila: the BBB is a computer like your PC until you try to really deal with electronics (ADCs, DACs, motors, relais,..)
Oct 09 11:06:35 <KotH> amila: there is nothing different in programming a networked application on a BBB than on a normal linux PC
Oct 09 11:07:15 <KotH> amila: if you dont feel confortable with cloud9, choose something else. perl, c, java, ocaml, eifel,...
Oct 09 11:07:35 <amila> koth : il give a try mate, cheers.
Oct 09 11:07:40 <LetoThe2nd> amila: hint: as long as you write "r u" or "yo mate" or "smthng", people will whink you're a kid that just wants his homework done. using standard english shows (at least a bit) that we are communicating with a person who cares to put thought into what he/she says, instead of just, well... burping up something.
Oct 09 11:08:14 <KotH> LetoThe2nd: i guess amila is in his/her late teens, early tweens... not only from "yo mate" & co
Oct 09 11:08:26 <KotH> hmm...
Oct 09 11:08:35 <KotH> amila: how old are you? if i may ask
Oct 09 11:08:40 <KotH> amila: for the channel statistics ;)
Oct 09 11:10:14 <LetoThe2nd> amila: and as you are talking about node.js, its api is properly documented here http://nodejs.org/api/
Oct 09 11:10:36 <LetoThe2nd> amila: pick you transport mechanism (http, udp, whatever) and start reading up on it.
Oct 09 11:11:25 <amila> KotH: i didnt think that using chat language will make a differance to the conversation. I am sorry, my bad. I just thought that this is  a simple chat service instead of tying all the english words. But I appriciate all your help and suggesions. Btw, i am not a native english speaker.
Oct 09 11:12:01 <amila> LetoThe2nd : thanks alot. Il search more and il give a try. Cheers
Oct 09 11:12:53 <Humpelstilzchen> ..these words are in no relation to native speaker or not
Oct 09 11:13:43 <KotH> amila: well, the only information we have on you are your written words
Oct 09 11:14:00 <KotH> amila: they suggest a certain image by the choice of words
Oct 09 11:14:56 <KotH> amila: e.g. if you would come and start of with "i have a doubt" i would picture an indian student who has been given some homework with the bbb...
Oct 09 11:16:27 <LetoThe2nd> amila: an for you personal information, none of the persons that spoke to you today is a native speaker either.
Oct 09 11:16:39 <KotH> amila: alternatively, think what kind of image you'd have of me whenn i aafange wür eso z'rede? würsch überhaupt öbbis verstoh oder würsch eifach denke, dass i nume uf de taschtatur umehau?
Oct 09 11:16:56 <Humpelstilzchen> KotH is a bayer?
Oct 09 11:17:04 <KotH> Humpelstilzchen: are you trying to insult me?
Oct 09 11:17:22 <Humpelstilzchen> do you want an answer ;)
Oct 09 11:17:35 <amila> KotH: i am sorry if i did a wrong thing mate. i am a student living in united kingdom from Sri Lanka, trying to learn something new. Cheers. May u all reach the ever success in everything you do !!!
Oct 09 11:17:55 <KotH> amila: dont worry about doing things wrong. just learn from them :)
Oct 09 11:18:53 <thurgood> as long as there's no blue smoke.. no harm, no foul :)
Oct 09 11:20:07 <KotH> smoking is not permited on these premises
Oct 09 15:00:56 <sheridp> Is it possible to change the pinmux without specifying a driver? For ex:  http://pastebin.com/r9a32jPQ
Oct 09 15:02:47 <av500> sheridp: I think mdp or panto might know that
Oct 09 15:10:09 <panto> sheridp, yes
Oct 09 15:11:07 <panto> http://roshan.info/blog/2014/03/03/beaglebone-black-pinmux-and-dts-helper/
Oct 09 15:11:31 <panto> https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard/blob/master/common-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-mainline-3.8/not-capebus/0100-Pinmux-helper-driver.patch
Oct 09 15:12:51 <sheridp> panto:  the problem is that it doesn't work, unless I add another fragment with target = <&spi0>;  but maybe I just need to target &ocp?
Oct 09 15:13:14 <panto> err, what?
Oct 09 15:13:42 <panto> you got to use the pinmux helper driver
Oct 09 15:13:45 <panto> it's not optional
Oct 09 15:13:48 <sheridp> sorry, taking a look at that now
Oct 09 15:23:07 <sheridp> panto:  it worked! thanks
Oct 09 18:08:16 <tasslehoff> Is there something in the dss(-driver) that lets you clip/clamp the output values?
Oct 09 18:08:50 <_av500_> tomba: ^^^
Oct 09 18:09:14 <_av500_> tasslehoff: there is something for full vs restrcited luma for video I think
Oct 09 18:10:19 <tasslehoff> _av500_: interesting. we have a quite vivid gui+video experience, and I'm looking for a way to tone it down a bit.
Oct 09 18:12:00 <_av500_> erm
Oct 09 18:12:03 <_av500_> by clipping?
Oct 09 18:14:55 <tasslehoff> _av500_: yes. patent pending :p
Oct 09 18:15:32 <tasslehoff> I'm on shaky ground here, but was told to investigate if something like that could be done
Oct 09 18:17:22 <tasslehoff> wonder if the people asking think that audio and video behave the same
Oct 09 18:17:32 <tasslehoff> I want to lower the volume of the video!
Oct 09 18:17:45 <agmlego> Well, they *are* eventually waves.
Oct 09 18:17:57 <agmlego> But I thyink desaturation is what you are looking for.
Oct 09 18:18:43 <tasslehoff> agmlego: yes. that is what I'm looking for. the IPA has taken my words away. thanks.
Oct 09 18:22:48 <tomba> tasslehoff: maybe tuning the gamma table?
Oct 09 18:23:16 <tomba> not supported in the mainline, though, but I have a patch for that (for omapdrm)
Oct 09 18:23:57 <tasslehoff> tomba: then it can be done through sysfs? I'm on 2.6.39.
Oct 09 18:25:02 <tomba> tasslehoff: well, if you implement sysfs support =)
Oct 09 18:25:31 <tasslehoff> tomba: that could be done :)
Oct 09 18:26:11 <tomba> tasslehoff: setting the gamma table is not that difficult. I don't have the patch with me now, though. but it's basically just writing 256 values to a register.
Oct 09 18:27:23 <tomba> but you say kernel 2.6, which is from the last millenium, so I presume you're using omap1, which doesn't have gamma table ;)
Oct 09 18:27:54 <tasslehoff> tomba: heh, I'm on omap3
Oct 09 18:28:16 <tasslehoff> the 3530. had to stay at 2.6.39 because of power management.
Oct 09 18:29:22 <tasslehoff> haven't found a sweet spot with working suspend and graphics drivers beyond that version
Oct 09 18:31:03 <tomba> I think my last omap3 device died some time ago, so I can't even test those anymore
Oct 09 18:31:47 <rwr> tomba: buy a lg p970. omap3 based, very cool phone
Oct 09 18:32:12 <tasslehoff> tomba: but I should have a gamma table there I hope?
Oct 09 18:33:14 <tomba> tasslehoff: yes, I'm 99% sure omap3 had gamma table. it should be trivial to create a sysfs/debugfs file, and a function which writes the values to the gamma register. presuming you have some kernel coding knowledge.
Oct 09 18:33:57 <tasslehoff> tomba: yes, I don't think that will be hard. thanks.
Oct 09 18:34:52 <tomba> I can send you my patch tomorrow, if you want. just send me an email to tomi.valkeinen@ti.com, and I'll reply to that when I'm at office.
Oct 09 18:35:48 <tasslehoff> thanks a lot!
Oct 09 18:36:25 <sheridp> I'm seeing a very strange behavior when I set PIN34 of MODULCTRL for the MC_SPI0.  With this bit set, the CLK no longer toggles, but according to the TRM, PIN34 should not affect SCLK
Oct 09 18:37:26 <_av500_> tasslehoff: tomba: ah right, gamma ray table
Oct 09 18:37:33 <_av500_> omap3 has been so long ago :)
Oct 09 18:39:03 <tasslehoff> _av500_: lucky you.
Oct 09 18:39:07 <_av500_> :)
Oct 09 18:39:09 <tasslehoff> I'm still stuck :)
Oct 09 18:39:19 <tasslehoff> Now I have to listen to gamma ray
Oct 09 18:39:21 <_av500_> tasslehoff: sometimes I wish I could go back
Oct 09 18:42:11 <tasslehoff> _av500_: I hope to get to the place where I can wish that too
Oct 09 19:09:01 <tbr-foo> _av500_: just buy a moto360 and you'll be back in the OMAP3 days
Oct 09 19:10:52 <_av500_> right
Oct 09 19:11:11 <_av500_> port the video player
Oct 09 19:11:27 <tbr-foo> avos on moto360!
Oct 09 19:11:36 <_av500_> yep
Oct 09 19:11:48 <KotH> libav500?
Oct 09 19:44:24 <jpic1212> hello
Oct 09 19:45:55 <tbr-foo> moo
Oct 09 19:50:40 <jpic1212> Does somebedy can help me with me bb xm rev c
Oct 09 19:52:11 <thurgood> maybe... if you're more specific
Oct 09 19:52:56 <jpic1212> hello thurgood
Oct 09 19:53:15 <jpic1212> have u installed ubuntu on you bb xm rev c
Oct 09 19:53:51 <thurgood> no, but I image rcn-ee has
Oct 09 19:54:17 <thurgood> don't think he's here at the moment though
Oct 09 19:54:56 <tbr-foo> still no real question though...
Oct 09 19:54:59 <jpic1212> i didnt get it ,, rcn-ee is a user or a webpage,, sorry
Oct 09 19:55:37 <jpic1212> well mi question is, If you have solve the resolution problem on de Envr.txt file
Oct 09 19:55:38 <thurgood> user, aka Robert C Nelson
Oct 09 19:56:00 <jpic1212> when you are using ubuntu
Oct 09 19:56:01 <tbr-foo> what's "the resoultion problem"?
Oct 09 19:56:21 <jpic1212> i can not get it,, what it´s the problem
Oct 09 19:56:30 <thurgood> uEnv.txt?
Oct 09 19:56:36 <jpic1212> yeah
Oct 09 19:56:51 <thurgood> what is your current setting?
Oct 09 19:57:03 <thurgood> and what are you trying to set it to?
Oct 09 19:57:06 <jpic1212> sorry for my low write
Oct 09 19:57:32 <jpic1212> i´m from colombia so i have think in spanish then traslate to english
Oct 09 19:58:31 <jpic1212> mi current setting is 1280x1024
Oct 09 19:59:02 <jpic1212> and i´ve tried all resolutions in blogs
Oct 09 19:59:10 <jpic1212> but nothing happend
Oct 09 19:59:23 <jpic1212> always the same ghost screen
Oct 09 19:59:28 <thurgood> is your aspect ratio 4:3 ?
Oct 09 19:59:38 <jpic1212> umm
Oct 09 19:59:53 <thurgood> on the monitor itself
Oct 09 19:59:54 <jpic1212> you have to set the ratio too??
Oct 09 20:00:15 <jpic1212> i´m using a hdmi cable
Oct 09 20:00:25 <thurgood> 1280x1024 is a 4:3 ratio
Oct 09 20:00:56 <thurgood> not extremely common anymore, but still possible
Oct 09 20:01:16 <jpic1212> ohh men,, i´m working right now, and found this group
Oct 09 20:01:35 <jpic1212> i don´t have my sd card here
Oct 09 20:01:49 <thurgood> no worries we'll be here later :P
Oct 09 20:02:15 <jpic1212> when are u connected again,
Oct 09 20:02:44 <thurgood> by the way, do you have a usb-serial connection ?
Oct 09 20:02:58 <jpic1212> but this is a official blog for the bb
Oct 09 20:03:08 <thurgood> most of the day
Oct 09 20:03:34 <jpic1212> thurgood you are so nice,, thank for find me
Oct 09 20:03:46 <thurgood> about as official as it gets, most people are using the beaglebone black these days
Oct 09 20:04:18 <jpic1212> when i have my sd card next to me.
Oct 09 20:04:29 <jpic1212> i´ll connnect again
Oct 09 20:04:32 <thurgood> ok
Oct 09 20:04:50 <jpic1212> or could you please give your email
Oct 09 20:05:43 <thurgood> no, I don't do email support... but someone will likely be around when you reconnect
Oct 09 20:06:21 <jpic1212> ok, thank u again.. finally some help
Oct 09 20:06:23 <jpic1212> bye
Oct 09 20:10:08 <rwr> jpic1212 is gone. how sad
Oct 09 20:13:13 <sheridp> Does anyone know of an IRC chat for Sitara processors, or is this the best venue for that?
Oct 09 20:13:59 <agmlego> Sitara is ARM.
Oct 09 20:14:32 <woglinde> sheridp there is none as far as I know
Oct 09 20:15:16 <agmlego> Find an ARM-compiled IRC client that runs on your ARM-compiled OS.
Oct 09 20:15:16 <agmlego> THere is probably a binary for irssi by now in the debian repos for armhf.
Oct 09 20:15:42 <woglinde> agmlego he did not use the term client
Oct 09 20:16:08 <_av500_> sheridp: the best place is TI e2e forums
Oct 09 20:16:15 <_av500_> if you are a professional
Oct 09 20:16:24 <agmlego> Nope, but since an "IRC  chat " is not a thing...I made a reasonable assumption.
Oct 09 20:16:39 <_av500_> it is a thing for some :)
Oct 09 20:16:46 <agmlego> But the point still stands--unreal probably crosscompiles OK.
Oct 09 20:16:53 <Jonnyw2k-home> I think netflix has to be the worst thing ever :(
Oct 09 20:17:28 <woglinde> Jonnyw2k-home wait what?
Oct 09 20:18:00 <Jonnyw2k-home> When I was younger I used to be quite productive, and eager to learn
Oct 09 20:18:08 <Jonnyw2k-home> these days I just sit here watching netflix
Oct 09 20:18:29 <agmlego> And telling others about it in an of-topic way on IRC.
Oct 09 20:19:48 <Jonnyw2k-home> It was kinda a wrong channel kind of thing, but someone asked before I realised
Oct 09 21:07:56 <sheridp> agmlego: sorry I did mean channel, not client
Oct 09 21:08:20 <agmlego> sheridp: So you want an IRC *server*.
Oct 09 21:08:32 <sheridp> _av500_: thanks for the e2e info
Oct 09 21:08:38 <agmlego> Like Unreal or ircd
Oct 09 21:09:11 <sheridp> yeah I'm not exactly hip on the IRC lingo, but essentially like the #beagle channel but specifically for TI processors
Oct 09 21:10:30 <sheridp> oh, sorry, no not a server or a client, but a location in which others are discussing the processor
Oct 09 21:10:40 <agmlego> So channels are served up by servers.
Oct 09 21:10:44 <agmlego> Oh.
Oct 09 21:10:51 <agmlego> You are not looking for software.
Oct 09 21:10:59 <sheridp> right
Oct 09 21:11:00 <agmlego> YOu are looking for a discussion forum.
Oct 09 21:11:09 <agmlego> Yup,. e2e.
Oct 09 21:11:44 <agmlego> I know of no TI-specific IRC channel on any network.
Oct 09 21:11:50 <sheridp> Just out of curiosity, are most people here professionals?
Oct 09 21:13:07 <agmlego> No.
Oct 09 21:13:09 <agmlego> Yes.
Oct 09 21:13:10 <agmlego> Maybe.
Oct 09 21:13:31 <agmlego> Probably most people here are employed, and thus professionals at whatever it is they are paid to do.
Oct 09 21:15:13 <sheridp> I suppose, but what I meant was professional developers / embedded systems designers; not professsional swing dancers who have a hobby of using the beagle boards
Oct 09 21:15:53 <agmlego> In that case, no, most are hobbyists or worse.
Oct 09 21:18:25 <sheridp> I see; right now I'm a graduate student and am trying to get an idea of what the corporate world of embedded system development is really like
Oct 09 21:19:37 <woglinde> sheridp uhm uh
Oct 09 21:21:51 <thurgood> like programming in general, with less available resources :P
Oct 09 21:24:58 <agmlego> ^^^
Oct 09 21:25:12 <agmlego> sheridp: THis is what internships and co-ops are for.
Oct 09 21:26:50 <woglinde> agmlego ah thanks internship was the word
Oct 09 21:27:01 * djlewis is professionally unprofessional
Oct 09 21:27:32 <djlewis> its an acquired art
Oct 09 21:36:56 <sheridp> So, I've finally found the source of my problems, but I still don't understand the why:  Setting PIN34 in MODULCTRL causes the MCSPI not to transmit; any ideas why?
Oct 09 21:37:13 <sheridp> (same thing if setting SINGLE)
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 10 00:03:14 2014
Oct 10 02:37:02 <Jpic1212> hello some expert in the room
Oct 10 02:37:26 <agmlego> "never ask to ask, just ask"
Oct 10 02:37:41 <Jpic1212> jejeje thank u agmlego
Oct 10 02:38:06 <Jpic1212> i have a bb xm rev c , and i tried to install ubuntu 14
Oct 10 02:39:15 <Jpic1212> i made all steps ok, install de OS in sdcard and turn on in the BB and i get a ghost screen
Oct 10 02:39:37 <Jpic1212> i barely can see asking for login>
Oct 10 02:39:52 <Jpic1212> but it's impossible to see
Oct 10 02:40:30 <Jpic1212> also i have tried to change the resolution but i really desperate with this stuff
Oct 10 02:40:57 <Jpic1212> can somebody help me with this
Oct 10 02:42:05 <Jpic1212> thurgood are u there_
Oct 10 02:42:21 <thurgood> have you had it work at any resolution?
Oct 10 02:44:25 <Jpic1212> when i bought the BB it came with the sd card with angstrom, i turn on , connect the hdmi cable and works fine
Oct 10 02:45:01 <Jpic1212> but with ubuntu i get no pass from the login black screen
Oct 10 02:46:34 <Jpic1212> with angstrom works with 720p 60hz
Oct 10 02:47:04 <Jpic1212> i've tried the same resolution but nothing
Oct 10 02:48:13 <thurgood> so maybe it's the way the card was setup, rather than the resolution
Oct 10 02:48:24 <thurgood> do you have a usb-serial connection?
Oct 10 02:49:48 <Jpic1212> no, there is no more connected than the power, sdcard and hdmi cable
Oct 10 02:50:15 <Jpic1212> sorry and keyboard and mouse
Oct 10 02:51:00 <thurgood> did you follow a tutorial on setting up the card?
Oct 10 02:51:19 <Jpic1212> yes, on internet
Oct 10 02:51:33 <Jpic1212> the web page is let me see my historial
Oct 10 02:51:42 <thurgood> what's the link?
Oct 10 02:52:04 <Jpic1212> http://leonvr.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_5.html
Oct 10 02:52:08 <Jpic1212> and
Oct 10 02:52:32 <Jpic1212> http://wlbeagleboard.wordpress.com/2014/07/27/installing-ubuntu-14-04-on-beagleboard-xm/
Oct 10 02:53:06 <Jpic1212> in all this tutorials always talk about some file called QUANTAL
Oct 10 02:53:22 <Jpic1212> but there is no such a file in the webpage
Oct 10 02:53:41 <strukturalna> should I buy an element14 beagleboard?
Oct 10 02:53:46 <strukturalna> beaglebone black
Oct 10 02:54:17 <Jpic1212> thurgood can u recommend me a better tutorial to install ubuntu, i'm really desperate
Oct 10 02:54:39 <strukturalna> I read some not so good things about element 14's beaglebone
Oct 10 02:54:49 <thurgood> no, I've never tried ubuntu, on the xM personally
Oct 10 02:56:00 <thurgood> did you put MLO  and uboot on the boot partition
Oct 10 02:56:16 <thurgood> the tutorial does not seem to mention the bootloaders
Oct 10 02:56:25 <Jpic1212> umm what are those
Oct 10 02:56:41 <thurgood> ... yeah
Oct 10 02:57:08 <thurgood> MLO is the first loader, which hands off to uboot, which starts up the kernel
Oct 10 02:57:30 <agmlego> strukturalna: I was unaware that element14 was still offering their own version. Last I saw, that product had vanished from the Internet.
Oct 10 02:57:54 <Jpic1212> i'm looking in my sdcard and there is a MLO file
Oct 10 02:58:04 <Jpic1212> what i have to do.
Oct 10 02:58:11 <Jpic1212> some change in the file
Oct 10 02:58:16 <strukturalna> agmlego element 14 started producing a clone because the original company cannot produce enough
Oct 10 02:58:19 <thurgood> is uboot.bin there too?
Oct 10 02:58:27 <strukturalna> it's apparently an 'official' clone
Oct 10 02:58:34 <strukturalna> not sure what an official clone could mean
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