**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 27 03:00:01 2014
Oct 27 03:05:33 <flufmnstr> BuffaloFan32 are you sure 192.168.2.1 is your router? further up you said you get a response from 192.168.7.1 try /sbin/route add default gw 192.168.7.1
Oct 27 03:07:06 <flufmnstr> or, if you're on windows, bring up command prompt(run cmd.exe), and type ipconfig
Oct 27 03:07:45 <flufmnstr> supposing they're in the same subnet, that will tell you the gateway IP they should be sharing
Oct 27 03:08:59 <BuffaloFan32> yes, 192.168.7.1 is the oriinal address i was trying
Oct 27 03:10:13 <BuffaloFan32> 192.168.2.1 is my wireless router according to ipconfig
Oct 27 03:14:08 <BuffaloFan32> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:     Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::6943:4ca7:a910:32be%32    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.7.1    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.252    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :  Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:     Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : Belkin    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
Oct 27 03:36:05 <kookie> lol
Oct 27 03:40:41 <kookie> sh: 1: inxi: not found
Oct 27 04:39:03 <Undertow10> Hi all.  Does anyone have advice for BBB standalone booting with starterware? (no linux)
Oct 27 04:40:25 <veremit> like this .. http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335X_StarterWare_Booting_And_Flashing .. ?
Oct 27 04:41:36 <Undertow10> Hmm, maybe.  I was hoping to keep it simple and avoid a bootloader, but is that a bad idea?
Oct 27 04:42:17 <veremit> I don't think you can bypass the bootloader
Oct 27 04:42:31 <Undertow10> I have a program that I can debug and run from JTAG, but it won't run when power is applied
Oct 27 04:44:01 <veremit> that would suggest either the board is being held in reset or something similar
Oct 27 04:44:29 <Undertow10> I know the init GEL file initializes the PLLs and such, so maybe I just need to move the GEL code into my C code?
Oct 27 04:45:13 <veremit> possibly .. I've never personally done low-level debugging
Oct 27 04:45:33 <Undertow10> and I probably need some sort of reset vector assembly code, but not sure
Oct 27 04:47:24 <veremit> ok I need to sleep .. bbl probably I-)
Oct 27 04:47:53 <Undertow10> thanks for the help
Oct 27 04:48:09 <Undertow10> going to keep plugging away at it
Oct 27 04:48:17 <veremit> tis the nly way :) nite!
Oct 27 06:04:17 <felixlee> Hi All
Oct 27 06:04:48 <felixlee> I have primary problem about beagleboard
Oct 27 06:05:27 <felixlee> how to install Linux OS (Ubuntu ) to Beagleboard eMMC from miniSD ?
Oct 27 06:10:31 <bbb_> hi ,,am uinable to  read data from serial port '
Oct 27 06:10:54 <bbb_> uart 1 am using
Oct 27 06:11:00 <tbr> what are you trying to do?
Oct 27 06:12:28 <bbb_> i jst want to connect serial por t to beagle board with uart 1  and need to read data
Oct 27 06:12:55 <tbr> bbb_: that's the one on the debug port, isn't it?
Oct 27 06:13:10 <tbr> felixlee: just get a flasher image and follow the instructions?
Oct 27 06:13:22 <felixlee> I also meet serial port problem. but the problem is due to I have not setup Software Flow Control
Oct 27 06:13:37 <bbb_> no..uart0 is debug port na...
Oct 27 06:14:00 <tbr> ok, TI port numbering sometimes starts at 1 or 0...
Oct 27 06:14:40 <felixlee> Due to the USBtty0 is not hardware flow control , you need setup software flow control for UART connection
Oct 27 06:14:43 <bbb_> hmm..but tell me how to read data am unable to do this
Oct 27 06:14:57 <tbr> or turn off flow control completely
Oct 27 06:15:14 <tbr> bbb_: what do you connect to it on the other side?
Oct 27 06:15:38 <bbb_> moxa to pc ..
Oct 27 06:15:40 <felixlee> what software you use ?  minicom or someone under Win Platform ?
Oct 27 06:16:01 <bbb_> first liy am using minicom...but later i need to use Qt
Oct 27 06:16:12 <tbr> bbb_: ok, are you using a USB-to-serial adapter? what is its reference voltage?
Oct 27 06:16:39 <bbb_> yes ...5v
Oct 27 06:16:40 <felixlee> yes, I use USB-to-serial adapter
Oct 27 06:16:44 <felixlee> 5V
Oct 27 06:16:58 <tbr> bbb_:you might have destroyed the port
Oct 27 06:17:09 <tbr> do NOT use 5V reference adapters with the board
Oct 27 06:17:13 <bbb_> how can u tell
Oct 27 06:17:26 <tbr> it requires 3.3V reference signals!
Oct 27 06:17:36 <bbb_> but generally with beagle board since beeging am using 5v
Oct 27 06:18:32 <tbr> still the required reference voltage is 3.3V
Oct 27 06:18:55 <tbr> the fact, that you haven't destroyed a board yet, doesn't change this
Oct 27 06:19:00 <tbr> please read the SRM
Oct 27 06:19:07 <bbb_> k..now can i use uart2
Oct 27 06:19:16 <felixlee> When I use minicom connection to BeagleBone Black . I use "minicom -s " to configure
Oct 27 06:19:31 <tbr> http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/latest/Docs/Hardware/BONE_SRM.pdf
Oct 27 06:20:03 <tbr> bbb_: by connecting a 3.3V reference serial connection to it and disabling flow control on both sides
Oct 27 06:20:10 <tbr> or using software handshake
Oct 27 06:20:25 <felixlee> from menu "Serial port setup" you can first find "A Serial Device" and then configure "G Software Flow Control: yes"
Oct 27 06:20:40 <felixlee> I think the Serial port will working
Oct 27 06:21:28 <felixlee> Setup Hardware Flow control : NO  and Software Flow Control: Yes
Oct 27 06:21:45 <tbr> bbb_: in addition you of course have to make sure that the UART is MUXed correctly on the BBB
Oct 27 06:22:09 <felixlee> you can read some books about Unix system administrate
Oct 27 06:22:20 <bbb_> starting what i did is.. uart0 4,5 pin is routed to hmi board with pin 24,26 ...and then i gave 5v
Oct 27 06:23:29 <tbr> again, do NOT use 5V with the UARTs
Oct 27 06:23:41 <bbb_> k k..
Oct 27 06:25:50 <felixlee> thr: Can you give me some URL or articles for how-to flash image from miniSD to eMMS ?
Oct 27 06:26:49 <felixlee> I will try to install new image to BBB and I try to install some deamon to it
Oct 27 06:26:55 <tbr> felixlee:
Oct 27 06:27:03 <bbb_> But internally from HMI %v is convertd to 3.3 V ...but also am unable to read data
Oct 27 06:27:22 <felixlee> I am in mainland (China) now. some URL mybe can't be accessed now . :-(
Oct 27 06:27:23 <tbr> felixlee: beagleboard.org follow the flashing instructions
Oct 27 06:27:41 <bbb_> But internally from HMI 5v is convertd to 3.3 V ...but also am unable to read data
Oct 27 06:27:59 <tbr> bbb_: your sentence doesn't make sense
Oct 27 06:28:36 <felixlee> I can't access some URL which on beagleboard.org
Oct 27 06:28:50 <bbb_> i donot know abt hardware the person is differt i jst asked told that for BBB 5v is generated to HMi board then converted to 3.3v
Oct 27 06:29:47 <tbr> bbb_: so what is it? are you using a 3.3V reference or a 5V reference for the UART communication? because you've been now contradicting yourself
Oct 27 06:30:27 <felixlee> Thanks tbr, I will try to finding it on the website
Oct 27 06:30:36 <bbb_> no am using 3.3V
Oct 27 06:31:37 <tbr> felixlee: http://beagleboard.org/getting-started#update
Oct 27 06:31:53 <tbr> bbb_: ok, so, one thing cleared
Oct 27 06:32:08 <bbb_> yes
Oct 27 06:32:26 <bbb_> then next i need to read data how to do that
Oct 27 06:32:47 <tbr> bbb_: now make sure: a) the UART is MUXed correctly b) you have handshake/flow controll off on both sides
Oct 27 06:36:06 <bbb_> Actually am using BBB with debian OS...in that am having only BB-UART1.dtbo files ...I searched in website ..then i got a clue that to copy the device tree in .dts files and compiled ...but also am unable to read data ..
Oct 27 06:37:53 <tbr> how are you feeding data to the port?
Oct 27 06:38:23 <bbb_> http://hipstercircuits.com/enable-serialuarttty-on-beaglebone-black/... i jst folled the above link ..
Oct 27 07:12:14 <bbb_> tbr please tell me
Oct 27 07:18:23 <tbr> bbb_: tell you what?
Oct 27 07:19:20 <bbb_> have u seen the link which i have been posted
Oct 27 07:21:02 <tbr> bbb_: well that looks like a well written guide, where specifically in that is your problem?
Oct 27 08:55:30 <bbb_> what problem..
Oct 27 08:55:52 <bbb_> am not getting u tbr
Oct 27 08:57:00 <tbr> bbb_: the page you refered to is a very thorough description of setting this up. Which specifc part of it doesn't work for you?
Oct 27 08:57:37 <bbb_> k...but i follwed the same thing ...k but what should i do nw ..
Oct 27 08:58:57 <tbr> I'm going to ask this one very last time, after which I shall leave you to be devoured by a grue: WHICH part of the page "doesn't work" for you?
Oct 27 09:00:16 <bbb_> am unable to read the data
Oct 27 10:36:42 <samael> tryin' to clone a BBB 4G internal eMMC following these instructions: http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Extracting_eMMC_contents#Steps_to_save . I modified autorun.sh to mount an ext4 partition (on the uSD) and write the image there, but at some some point it says: dd: writing '/data/BeagleBoneBlack-eMMC-image-132.img': File too large
Oct 27 10:38:12 <samael> do I miss something? /data gets correctly mounted, and there is plenty of space. it seems the image files get truncated at 2GB no matter what
Oct 27 10:40:49 <mkad> samael, what is your file system on /data?
Oct 27 10:40:54 <mkad> vfat ?
Oct 27 10:42:01 <samael> mkad: no, I partitioned the uSD with a proper ext4 partition for that the sake
Oct 27 10:42:07 <samael> s/the//
Oct 27 10:42:36 <mkad> vfat has 2Gb per file limit
Oct 27 10:42:43 <mkad> check your fs
Oct 27 10:42:49 <mkad> df -Th afaik
Oct 27 10:43:21 <samael> i know, but it says: /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /data type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
Oct 27 10:43:28 <samael> looks ok to me, right?
Oct 27 10:44:43 <mkad> I never did it, just trying to help.. so maybe you should check size of the partition ?
Oct 27 10:46:07 <samael> there are 7G free. I'm just writing an image from /dev/urandom to a file to see how big can it grow
Oct 27 10:47:33 <mkad> script does this dd if=/dev/mmcblk1 of=/mnt/BeagleBoneBlack-eMMC-image-$RANDOM.img bs=10M
Oct 27 10:48:11 <mkad> so mmcblk1 must be 4Gb afaik and of=/mnt/Beagle*...etc is a file that you want to save to
Oct 27 10:48:16 <mkad> at rate 10M
Oct 27 10:48:26 <mkad> either /mnt is not mounted
Oct 27 10:48:47 <mkad> or mmcblk1 is bigger then you have space for..
Oct 27 10:49:16 <mkad> but if target is not mounted before this script executes
Oct 27 10:49:25 <mkad> it will try to write to vfat I guess
Oct 27 10:50:00 <mkad> whts the filesystem for your / ?
Oct 27 10:54:11 <samael> the rootfs is vfat, but the script mounts /data before to run dd, and later (when i get the prompt) i can actually see the file under /data
Oct 27 10:55:48 <mkad> why do you execute it manualy ?
Oct 27 10:59:26 <samael> what exactly? the mount of /data?
Oct 27 10:59:47 <mkad> dd to make a copy of flash for you
Oct 27 11:01:53 <mkad> in my opinion your script is execute before you mount ext4 and writes to vfat, do with that whatever you want, I have no other clues...
Oct 27 11:02:11 <samael> i don't run it manually actually, it's everything in the autorun.sh script
Oct 27 11:03:19 <mkad> so add mounting command to that script
Oct 27 11:03:24 <mkad> before dd
Oct 27 11:03:31 <mkad> to make sure it is mounted
Oct 27 11:04:30 <mkad> and print df -Th before mount command to be sure what is going on
Oct 27 11:05:54 <samael> that's what i do now :/
Oct 27 11:06:19 <samael> (except the df part, but -T is not supported, i see)
Oct 27 11:06:47 <adj> how long did it take to get 2GB out of urandom on bbone? or is it still going?
Oct 27 11:07:19 <tbr> :D
Oct 27 11:07:27 <adj> /dev/zero might be a bit faster...
Oct 27 11:09:25 <samael> it finished some time ago, at 2G
Oct 27 11:10:02 <mkad> oh
Oct 27 11:10:54 <mkad> afaik ext4 has 16TB file size limit
Oct 27 11:12:25 <adj> your / is vfat? Is it really possible to do that and mount anything on top of vfat?
Oct 27 11:14:44 <mkad> dd if=/dev/zero of=./test.img count=300 bs=10M
Oct 27 11:14:49 <mkad> created 3.1Gb file
Oct 27 11:14:57 <mkad> on ext4
Oct 27 11:17:52 <mkad> you can also mount -t tmpfs -o size=1024M tmpfs /mnt/vmtmpfs ; mkdir /mnt/vmtmpfs/data ; mount -t ext4 /dev/whateveryourpartition /mnt/vmtmpfs/data if in doubt, but I dont think it matters
Oct 27 11:18:25 <mkad> besides that mount -l should tell you what is mounted
Oct 27 11:18:30 <mkad> and what parameters
Oct 27 11:20:29 <samael> sorry, the root fs is ext2, just checked
Oct 27 11:20:39 <samael> no clue, then.
Oct 27 11:21:44 <mkad> ext2 also has huge max files size like 16Gb-2Tb .. so irrelevant
Oct 27 11:22:08 <mkad> how do you mount /data
Oct 27 11:22:25 <mkad> you sure you formated it to be ext partition ?
Oct 27 11:22:39 <mkad> do you pass -t parameter ?
Oct 27 11:22:56 <mkad> by default mount will try to detect fs and mount what you formated it with
Oct 27 11:23:53 <samael> no, it's plain mount without args and switches. it gets mounted as ext4, as I expected
Oct 27 11:24:27 <hxla> Hello guys, I'm trying to change the beaglebone black resolution, as in http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_HDMI, but all I get from xrandr is xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default, it says the current resolution, but I can't change it, how does it work? Thanks
Oct 27 11:24:28 <mkad> and you cannot manualy creat biggr files on it?
Oct 27 11:24:53 <samael> mkad: it seems so
Oct 27 11:25:09 <mkad> have sd card reader?
Oct 27 11:25:14 <mkad> plug it in
Oct 27 11:25:37 <mkad> mount from your pc, create file 3Gb
Oct 27 11:25:59 <samael> i do, and i use it to modify the autorun.sh script and check the files
Oct 27 11:27:21 <mkad> are you sure that your source partition is 4Gb ?
Oct 27 11:27:39 <mkad> maybe there is 4G space but partition is only 2G?
Oct 27 11:27:48 <mkad> ah u tried urandom...
Oct 27 11:27:51 <mkad> nvm
Oct 27 11:29:00 <samael> it' the BBB rev C, with 4GB eMMC
Oct 27 11:34:22 <samael> ftr, dcfldd(1) wrote 2400Mb on the same partition mounted on my pc, and still counting.
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 27 12:03:18 2014
Oct 27 12:05:35 <bbb_> hey serial port is working tbr..
Oct 27 12:12:54 <tbr> bbb_: so, what was it?
Oct 27 12:29:01 <Laurenceb> hi
Oct 27 12:29:24 <Laurenceb> does anyone know how to stop the eMMC flash on the eMMC flasher debian build?
Oct 27 12:29:35 <Laurenceb> guess i could just ssh in and kill the process?
Oct 27 12:38:11 <Laurenceb> can anyone help me share a net connection?
Oct 27 12:38:24 <Laurenceb> im behind a proxy
Oct 27 12:38:32 <Laurenceb> wget: unable to resolve host address `mainproxy<etc>'
Oct 27 12:38:38 <Laurenceb> from my BBB
Oct 27 12:44:43 <keesj> Laurenceb: often you can export http_proxy e.g  export http_proxy=http://10.203.0.1:5187/
Oct 27 12:46:49 <keesj> also when using a proxy server you might aswelll just configure the proxy using an IP address. the resolving of the websites will happen at the proxy
Oct 27 12:49:08 <embed> hai all, am interfacing tca8418 keypad to bbb . i have no idea how  to configure special keys as like qwerty. Any suggestion
Oct 27 12:51:21 <Laurenceb> usb0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d6:68:26:e1:3c:b3
Oct 27 12:51:21 <Laurenceb> <Laurenceb>           inet addr:192.168.7.2  Bcast:192.168.7.3  Mask:255.255.255.252
Oct 27 12:51:26 <Laurenceb> does that look ok?
Oct 27 12:54:36 <keesj> so you are using usb networking and you attached your bbb directly to your pc and your proxy is running on your pc that is attached to the bbb?
Oct 27 12:56:57 <keesj> what os are you running on the pc?
Oct 27 13:01:08 <Laurenceb> ubuntu
Oct 27 13:01:19 <Laurenceb> just a sec, ill load a different kernel on the BBB
Oct 27 13:01:41 <Laurenceb> keesj: my PC connects to internet via a proxy
Oct 27 13:06:14 <keesj> Laurenceb: your problem is most probably related to enabling ip forwarding, have you verified ou can access other parts of your network from the bbb?
Oct 27 13:06:59 <Laurenceb> i can ping my PC
Oct 27 13:07:00 <keesj> e.g. do a route -n on ubuntu and try to ping the default gateway from both ubuntu first and bbb after
Oct 27 13:07:06 <Laurenceb> right
Oct 27 13:07:16 <Laurenceb> ill try in a few mniutes, reflashing atm
Oct 27 13:18:33 <Laurenceb> and this is why i hate beaglebone
Oct 27 13:18:41 <Laurenceb> now i cant even get it to connect
Oct 27 13:21:10 <Laurenceb> has anyone ever flashed a beaglebone with 3.17.1-bone4?
Oct 27 13:21:18 <Laurenceb> ive been attempting since last week now
Oct 27 13:21:42 <Laurenceb> is there an idiots guide?
Oct 27 13:21:48 <Laurenceb> as im not doing too well
Oct 27 13:21:56 <keesj> if you are doing kernel dev I suggest you get a real serial !
Oct 27 13:22:05 <Laurenceb> hmm
Oct 27 13:22:28 <Laurenceb> does the non emmc flasher build from beaglebone.org support usb serial?
Oct 27 13:22:46 <Laurenceb> mine isnt connecting since i loaded a new uSD card a few minutes ago
Oct 27 13:22:53 <Laurenceb> hmm
Oct 27 13:22:56 <Laurenceb> i have an idea
Oct 27 13:23:11 <Laurenceb> i will load the emmc flasher then kill the process
Oct 27 13:23:19 <Laurenceb> any idea what i need to kill?
Oct 27 13:23:47 <Laurenceb> shit this is way overcomplex
Oct 27 13:24:22 <keesj> good luck
Oct 27 13:24:41 <Laurenceb> this is why i was planning to burn this thing in the fired of hell last week
Oct 27 13:25:37 <av500> Laurenceb: see the output of ps
Oct 27 13:25:43 <Laurenceb> yeah
Oct 27 13:25:44 <av500> its called emmc somthing or so
Oct 27 13:25:51 <Laurenceb> ok cool thanks
Oct 27 13:25:56 <Laurenceb> thats what i wanted to know
Oct 27 13:25:59 <av500> a script
Oct 27 13:26:13 <Laurenceb> if i kill that i can get a working machine that doesnt kill itself after a few minutes
Oct 27 13:26:14 <av500> you can also mount the flasher sd on the PC and remove the script
Oct 27 13:26:25 <Laurenceb> the non eMMC flasher is broken
Oct 27 13:26:34 <Laurenceb> usb device doesnt work
Oct 27 13:39:19 <Laurenceb> no
Oct 27 13:39:23 <Laurenceb> looks like ive fried it
Oct 27 14:11:43 <mkad> is it possible to have serial port over usb?
Oct 27 14:11:47 <mkad> without special cable to BBB?
Oct 27 14:12:18 <av500> yes
Oct 27 14:19:09 <Rotti> hi
Oct 27 14:44:05 <pl2> Hey guys, I have an Arch Linux install on SD Card.. How would I go about flashing this to EMMC?
Oct 27 14:45:18 <av500> create boot and root partition on emmc
Oct 27 14:45:19 <av500> copy files
Oct 27 14:45:22 <av500> remove card
Oct 27 14:45:42 <MK_FG> ???
Oct 27 14:45:45 <MK_FG> profit
Oct 27 14:45:46 <av500> you might want to look at e.g. the debian flasher script for guidance
Oct 27 14:46:52 <Tye> Good Morning All - Troubleshooting some power issues with my beaglebone black. I am currently using an external battery which provides 5v/2.1A over usb and plugged into the micro-usb port with the cable which came with the bone.  I have a power monitor in-line and it's saying the bone is only pulling ~.35 amps.  Is this a limitation of the micro-usb port? My wifi dongle is not getting enough amperage to function properly.
Oct 27 14:47:29 <av500> it should be able to draw more than 350mA
Oct 27 14:47:52 <Tye> If so, i'm going to get some usb -> 2.1mm barrel connector cables and try that way... but wanted to ask some experts first.
Oct 27 14:48:02 <av500> yes, barrel should be better
Oct 27 14:48:43 <MK_FG> pl2, Come to think of it, "installation" tab here - http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/ti/beaglebone-black - might be a good step-by-step for what you want to do
Oct 27 14:49:59 <pl2> Cool. Thanks for all the suggestions. av500, so even if I boot using a sd card, I can still access emmc?
Oct 27 14:50:05 <av500> yes
Oct 27 14:53:51 <Tye> I've swapped out the battery source and used some wall-plugins all rated at 2.1A but the results appear to be the same.  I was wondering if this could be a faulty board.  Thanks for the advice @av500.  I'll try the barrel connectors.
Oct 27 14:54:08 <av500> how does your wifi not work?
Oct 27 14:54:14 <Tye> It's sure frustrating to only have enough amperage to half-way power my wifi dongle.
Oct 27 14:54:15 <pl2> av500, cool. That should be easy to do then.
Oct 27 14:54:26 <Tye> It's being intermittent - connects/drops/etc.
Oct 27 14:54:53 <Tye> I put the monitor between the dongle + the beaglebone and get 5v ~275mA
Oct 27 14:55:26 <av500> BBB can draw 500mA at least
Oct 27 14:55:32 <av500> but I think its set up for even more
Oct 27 14:55:45 <av500> check your dmesg for usb overcurrent events
Oct 27 14:55:55 <av500> though I dont know if the MUSB host handles that
Oct 27 14:57:28 <Tye> Yeh I'll get the usb-> barrel connectors from amazon and see if it draws more.  Will check dmesg too -that's a good idea.
Oct 27 15:00:34 <Laurenceb> so its possible to get usb-serial to work through the usb mini B  ?
Oct 27 15:00:45 <Laurenceb> atm i see nothing on the usb mini B
Oct 27 15:00:50 <Laurenceb> its very intermittent
Oct 27 15:01:03 <Laurenceb> earlier today it mounted as usb ethernet
Oct 27 15:01:09 <Laurenceb> i can tget anything now
Oct 27 15:02:03 <Rotti> Laurenceb: bbb?
Oct 27 15:02:07 <av500> sure usb serial is possible
Oct 27 15:02:21 <av500> its all only SW
Oct 27 15:02:30 <Laurenceb> Rotti: yeah
Oct 27 15:03:03 <KotH> av500: software is hard, lets go shopping
Oct 27 15:03:08 <av500> +1
Oct 27 15:03:11 <av500> you payin`
Oct 27 15:03:13 <av500> you payin`?
Oct 27 15:03:13 <Rotti> Laurenceb: then it won't work out of the box
Oct 27 15:03:19 <KotH> av500: only for chocolate
Oct 27 15:03:29 <Laurenceb> oh
Oct 27 15:03:30 <av500> fair enough
Oct 27 15:03:42 <Laurenceb> i dont see anything on lsusb
Oct 27 15:03:48 <Rotti> Laurenceb: but there's a pinheader... ;)
Oct 27 15:03:53 <Laurenceb> but the BBB has booted
Oct 27 15:04:04 <Laurenceb> ill try rebooting + fiddling with cable
Oct 27 15:06:01 <Laurenceb> ah
Oct 27 15:06:07 <Laurenceb> its not enough to press reset
Oct 27 15:06:15 <Laurenceb> the board needs to be power cycled
Oct 27 15:06:31 <av500> yes
Oct 27 15:06:34 <av500> for the boot order
Oct 27 15:07:04 <Laurenceb> ok
Oct 27 15:07:18 <Laurenceb> the update_kernel.sh script, where does it place the new kernel?
Oct 27 15:07:28 <Laurenceb> i just ran it, but same old kernel is running
Oct 27 15:11:53 <Laurenceb> hmf
Oct 27 15:11:56 <mkad> av500, oh how ?
Oct 27 15:11:58 <Laurenceb> now no more usb again
Oct 27 15:12:00 <Laurenceb> wow
Oct 27 15:12:04 <Laurenceb> this is so unreliable
Oct 27 15:12:23 <mkad> av500, all I get is some ttyACM0 which is internet connection afaik
Oct 27 15:12:55 <Laurenceb> are there any weird tricks need to make usb-ethernet work?
Oct 27 15:13:01 <Laurenceb> i seem to be doing something wrong
Oct 27 15:13:21 <mkad> Laurenceb, what is usb ethernet ? usb dongle for ethernet ?
Oct 27 15:13:24 <Laurenceb> atm i have the battery and usb unplugged
Oct 27 15:13:29 <Laurenceb> no
Oct 27 15:13:41 <mkad> Laurenceb, ethernet works only with barrel 5V
Oct 27 15:13:43 <Laurenceb> the usb mini B connect is supposed to be an ethernet device
Oct 27 15:13:54 <Laurenceb> yeah, i have a battery connected
Oct 27 15:14:02 <Laurenceb> so what do i do?
Oct 27 15:14:09 <Laurenceb> it seems to be related to the order
Oct 27 15:14:31 <Laurenceb> unplug everything, then should usb be connected when i power up or not?
Oct 27 15:14:46 <Laurenceb> so far i only got it to work once this morning
Oct 27 15:14:52 <mkad> wait wait
Oct 27 15:15:03 <mkad> network over usb works out of the box on Debian
Oct 27 15:15:11 <mkad> ssh 192.168.7.2 -l debian
Oct 27 15:15:23 <mkad> that is all I know
Oct 27 15:15:26 <Laurenceb> hmm
Oct 27 15:15:33 <Laurenceb> lsusb shows nothing
Oct 27 15:15:41 <Laurenceb> the usb is dead
Oct 27 15:15:45 <mkad> you just power it up with usb and it works
Oct 27 15:15:52 <mkad> no need for battery
Oct 27 15:16:04 <mkad> just BBB and usb cable - mini usb cable
Oct 27 15:16:11 <Laurenceb> ill try another board, but ill have to flash it with the old debian build
Oct 27 15:16:18 <Laurenceb> nothing is working here
Oct 27 15:16:32 <mkad> connect serial and check..
Oct 27 15:16:38 <Laurenceb> lights are flashing but nobody is home
Oct 27 15:16:43 <Laurenceb> i dont have a serial adaptor
Oct 27 15:16:50 <mkad> I was asking av500 if its possible to have serial over usb
Oct 27 15:16:54 <mkad> he wrote yes
Oct 27 15:17:15 <mkad> but I have only ttyACM0 device which I am not able to open as terminal
Oct 27 15:17:22 <mkad> I think its for network connection
Oct 27 15:17:27 <mkad> or am I wrong?
Oct 27 15:17:31 <KotH> yes, you are
Oct 27 15:17:43 <KotH> tty <- it's a tty
Oct 27 15:17:49 <av500> yes
Oct 27 15:17:53 <mkad> strange then
Oct 27 15:17:57 <mkad> I type and nothing
Oct 27 15:17:59 <KotH> ACM <- it's this modem thingy
Oct 27 15:18:09 <mkad> yes I dont want modem
Oct 27 15:18:12 <mkad> I want serial termianl
Oct 27 15:18:21 <KotH> same thing
Oct 27 15:18:23 <av500> yes
Oct 27 15:18:33 <mkad> then I dont know why I cant log in
Oct 27 15:18:33 <av500> just dont sent AT commands
Oct 27 15:18:37 * KotH hands av500 some chocolate
Oct 27 15:18:45 <av500> minicom /dev/ttyACM0
Oct 27 15:18:50 <Laurenceb> mine is dead
Oct 27 15:19:05 <mkad> av500, I can ssh but gtkterm does not connect
Oct 27 15:19:53 <Laurenceb> wtf
Oct 27 15:19:58 <Laurenceb> all my beaglebones are dead
Oct 27 15:20:08 <Laurenceb> this must by an issue with my pc
Oct 27 15:20:20 <mkad> minicom: cannot open /dev/ttyACM0: Device or resource busy
Oct 27 15:21:07 <mkad> ah works as root
Oct 27 15:21:16 <mkad> sory
Oct 27 15:22:02 <Laurenceb> are you supposed to press a button for sub-ethernet?
Oct 27 15:22:15 <Laurenceb> all my board have nothing on usb
Oct 27 15:22:21 <Laurenceb> tried with linux and windows7
Oct 27 15:22:28 <Laurenceb> nothing, they are dead
Oct 27 15:22:38 <av500> hmm
Oct 27 15:22:40 <av500> bad cable?
Oct 27 15:23:09 <XFaCE> Just FYI, I think the monitor cable issues with the BBB have been corrected
Oct 27 15:23:40 <XFaCE> I was able to use the monoprice hdmi cable + a generic HDMI to DVI converter into a Samsung monitor and LG televsion
Oct 27 15:23:52 <XFaCE> and I have the A5C revision
Oct 27 15:24:18 <Laurenceb> ah found the problem
Oct 27 15:24:33 <Laurenceb> usb ethernet doesnt work if there is a µSD card inserted
Oct 27 15:24:39 <Laurenceb> doesnt matter where you boot from
Oct 27 15:24:46 <Laurenceb> it always breaks
Oct 27 15:25:05 <woglinde> hm the wonders of musb
Oct 27 15:25:27 <tbr> ummm
Oct 27 15:25:50 <Laurenceb> now im going to have an even harder job reflashimg  :-/
Oct 27 15:27:54 <Laurenceb> in fact its probably impossible
Oct 27 15:27:55 <Laurenceb> wtf
Oct 27 15:28:39 <Laurenceb> basically its bricked by design
Oct 27 15:29:41 <av500> ?
Oct 27 15:29:53 <Laurenceb> well i cant connect via usb
Oct 27 15:29:59 <tbr> so what?
Oct 27 15:30:05 <mkad> Laurenceb, what are you talking about...
Oct 27 15:30:09 <Laurenceb> i guess i could use serial
Oct 27 15:30:17 <mkad> Laurenceb, I flashed emmc with uSD card powering from usb
Oct 27 15:30:25 <Laurenceb> mkad: usb-ethernet breaks is a uSD card is inserted
Oct 27 15:30:25 <av500> can you please use a stock debian flasher and flash the emmc?
Oct 27 15:30:33 <Laurenceb> yeah ill do that
Oct 27 15:31:37 <mkad> Laurenceb, and dont be hysteric ;)
Oct 27 15:31:53 <Laurenceb> ive been trying to flash a BBB for 4 days solid
Oct 27 15:31:54 <Laurenceb> wtf
Oct 27 15:32:50 <Laurenceb> ok ill use the eMMC flasher, then i want to upgrade to 3.17.1-bone4
Oct 27 15:33:10 <Laurenceb> but the update_kernel script runs out of drive space run from eMMC
Oct 27 15:33:24 <Laurenceb> guess i could insert a card and move some stuff over there
Oct 27 15:33:32 <Laurenceb> or delete the old kernel image
Oct 27 15:33:53 <av500> well, just use a non-flashing image then
Oct 27 15:33:56 <av500> and ignore emmc
Oct 27 15:34:09 <av500> kill MLO on emmc and be done
Oct 27 15:34:13 * av500 hates the emmc on BBB
Oct 27 15:34:26 * mkad prefers emmc
Oct 27 15:34:38 * av500 hates mkad then
Oct 27 15:34:44 <mkad> :)
Oct 27 15:34:44 <Laurenceb> i want to run from eMMC, its going to be in a high vibration environment (vehicles)
Oct 27 15:34:52 <av500> superglue
Oct 27 15:35:05 <mkad> high vibration sounds kinky
Oct 27 15:36:08 <mkad> av500, hot glue gun better, glue can be removed if needed
Oct 27 15:36:22 <mkad> they are cheap
Oct 27 15:37:04 <mkad> or even better tape it :)
Oct 27 15:37:51 <KotH> Laurenceb: the bbb is not designed with reliability in such environment
Oct 27 15:37:57 <KotH> Laurenceb: you'll have failures, tons of them
Oct 27 15:37:58 <Laurenceb> i see
Oct 27 15:38:08 <Laurenceb> well its failing already lol
Oct 27 15:38:20 <KotH> Laurenceb: unless you unsolder all big components and pot the damn thing
Oct 27 15:38:20 <Laurenceb> yet to get it to boot
Oct 27 15:38:25 <KotH> hm?
Oct 27 15:38:32 <Laurenceb> well - usably
Oct 27 15:38:34 <KotH> getting a bbb to boot is easy
Oct 27 15:38:39 <KotH> normaly
Oct 27 15:38:51 <KotH> if not, blame av500
Oct 27 15:38:54 <Laurenceb> heh
Oct 27 15:39:10 <Laurenceb> ok eMMC flasher image is doing its thing
Oct 27 15:39:23 <mkad> KotH, what they do in airplanes or helicopters they cover electronics with a foam liquid that dries up but is non-conductive and keeps everything intact
Oct 27 15:46:57 <KotH> mkad: they already do a different design
Oct 27 15:47:18 <mkad> with faster emmc?
Oct 27 15:47:43 <Laurenceb> how long does eMMC flasher take to run?
Oct 27 15:47:47 <KotH> mkad: chips, and other components are selected to be less suceptible to vibration, there is lots of metal around for structural stability, heavy components are bolted down, etc pp
Oct 27 15:52:33 <flatmush1> Anyone know why latest mainline doesn't work on beaglebone black but mainline 3.13 does work?
Oct 27 15:53:56 <KotH> regression?
Oct 27 15:55:13 <flatmush1> Maybe, but I was wondering if anyone in here had more detail or can give me any hints as to what to look at
Oct 27 15:58:13 <tbr> flatmush1: I remember that there was something defconfig related
Oct 27 15:58:34 <tbr> it also somehow tied into which version of u-boot you were running
Oct 27 15:58:52 <Laurenceb> Segmentation fault
Oct 27 15:59:01 <Laurenceb>  /update_kernel.sh --beta-kernel
Oct 27 15:59:02 <Laurenceb> Segmentation fault
Oct 27 15:59:04 <Laurenceb> ^wtf
Oct 27 15:59:06 <flatmush1> I was wondering if there was likely to be a u-boot issue, since I've not updated uboot, just trying newer images
Oct 27 16:00:25 <KotH> Laurenceb: software has bugs, film at 11
Oct 27 16:00:31 <Laurenceb> heh
Oct 27 16:00:39 <Laurenceb> how do i update the kernel?
Oct 27 16:39:18 <Laurenceb> ok wut
Oct 27 16:39:30 <Laurenceb> i reflashed the eMMC, but it wont boot without a card inserted
Oct 27 17:05:53 <emeb> something's corrupted in the eMMC then
Oct 27 17:05:59 <emeb> it fails-over to SD
Oct 27 17:06:15 <Laurenceb> yeah
Oct 27 17:06:18 <Laurenceb> fixed it now
Oct 27 17:06:30 <Laurenceb> but still getting segfault on update_kernel
Oct 27 17:06:41 <Laurenceb> dunno how to debug this
Oct 27 17:08:50 <Laurenceb> its a shell script
Oct 27 17:09:03 <Laurenceb> i didn have it working last week
Oct 27 17:09:14 <Laurenceb> i should have kept better notes
Oct 27 17:10:37 <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9679084
Oct 27 17:11:15 <Laurenceb> from lsb_release/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/lsb_release -cs
Oct 27 17:14:41 <Laurenceb> i dont have a chance in hell of fixing this
Oct 27 17:16:21 <tbr> talk to rcn, it's his stuff
Oct 27 17:16:27 <Laurenceb> ping rcn
Oct 27 17:16:46 <tbr> (he's not here)
Oct 27 17:16:52 <Laurenceb> is there any way to debug a segfault in a shell script?
Oct 27 17:17:27 <tbr> turn on core dumps, load it into gdb
Oct 27 17:18:03 <Laurenceb> ooh found it
Oct 27 17:18:04 <Laurenceb>  /usr/bin/lsb_release -cs
Oct 27 17:18:04 <Laurenceb> wheezy
Oct 27 17:18:04 <Laurenceb> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Oct 27 17:18:09 <Laurenceb> ^source of the error
Oct 27 17:19:37 <Laurenceb> yeah python is broken
Oct 27 17:19:47 <Laurenceb> >>> quit()
Oct 27 17:19:48 <Laurenceb> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Oct 27 17:20:44 <Laurenceb> how bizarre
Oct 27 17:23:07 <Laurenceb> yeah packages are conflicting in the build from beaglebone.org
Oct 27 17:23:17 <Laurenceb> which python should i have?
Oct 27 17:24:21 <Laurenceb> ill swap to python 2.6
Oct 27 17:26:24 <Laurenceb> fixed
Oct 27 17:26:40 <Laurenceb> beaglebone.org need to get their shit together
Oct 27 17:40:08 <tbr> Laurenceb: as said, talk to RCN, he's maintaining the debian distro. Throwing excrement verbally around won't help.
Oct 27 17:50:34 <woglinde> tbr I thought he only maintains the kernel
Oct 27 17:51:25 <tbr> woglinde: I thought he maintains the BBB specific bits of the debian images. aka the hw-adaptation.
Oct 27 18:12:08 <mishal> hello, what is used instead of connman in debian distro? thank you
Oct 27 18:12:42 <woglinde> if/updown
Oct 27 18:12:56 <woglinde> but you can install network-manager if you want
Oct 27 18:13:20 <mishal> by default
Oct 27 18:13:26 <mishal> ?
Oct 27 18:15:50 <woglinde> default is if/updown
Oct 27 18:15:59 <woglinde> controlled via /etc/network/interfaces
Oct 27 18:16:06 <woglinde> I am off
Oct 27 18:24:43 <Laurenceb> has anyone got Adafruit BBIO running in python 2.6  ?
Oct 27 19:49:27 <the-gibson> Hi all, quick question, is it safe to power the BBB via external 5V while also being hooked up over USB?
Oct 27 19:59:30 <mashiara> yes
Oct 27 20:13:30 <djlewis1> ext does not imply a battery. Wouldn't a hot gnd be possible between the two he asks about?
Oct 27 20:42:36 <mashiara> unless the computers GND is somehow in a different potential it shouldn't matter
Oct 27 20:43:44 <mashiara> but if the computer is connected to the same extension cord as the 5V wall-wart I fail to see how (in normal operating conditions) it would be
Oct 27 20:52:20 <Laurenceb_> hi, is the source for the USB host driver available?
Oct 27 21:06:34 <Laurenceb_> is it possible to run adc with 3.17.1 kernel?
Oct 27 21:14:33 <Laurenceb_> is it possible to part the 3.17.1 kernel to enable the cape_bone stuff?
Oct 27 21:16:43 <tbr> Laurenceb: the sources are available, they are the kernel sources.
Oct 27 21:16:59 <Laurenceb_> right
Oct 27 21:17:06 <Laurenceb_> hmm
Oct 27 21:17:14 <Laurenceb_> this is somewhat over my head
Oct 27 21:17:35 <tbr> the dtb-overlay stuff isn't upstream yet and I think is only in 3.8, so you'll have to get your dt compiled and loaded at boot
Oct 27 21:17:37 <Laurenceb_> but in theory the 3.17.1 kernel could be compiled with working usb host and gpio/adc?
Oct 27 21:17:41 <Laurenceb_> right
Oct 27 21:18:00 <Laurenceb_> atm it seems to be a choice between usb or adc/gpio
Oct 27 21:18:09 <Laurenceb_> unless.. 3.16.x  kernel?
Oct 27 21:19:29 <DiegoTc> hi av500, do you know if jkrinder have plans to include beagleboard.org on the Google Code In program this year?
Oct 27 21:21:48 <Laurenceb_> anyone running 3.16.3-bone6  ?
Oct 27 21:23:09 <Laurenceb_> or know if there is a kernel supporting usb and gpio/adc  ?
Oct 27 21:39:02 <Laurenceb_> can anyone explain how capes work?
Oct 27 21:39:25 <Laurenceb_> if i use the Adafruit BBIO library from python, does it matter if my configuration doesnt match a cape?
Oct 27 21:40:30 <nyt-> that library is not so good lol
Oct 27 21:40:39 <nyt-> but you should read the docs on capes
Oct 27 21:41:10 <nyt-> http://beagleboard.org/Support/bone101/#capes
Oct 27 21:41:59 <nyt-> just use the default debian image and kernel if you want everything to work :/
Oct 27 21:42:22 <Laurenceb_> nope
Oct 27 21:42:25 <Laurenceb_> usb is broken
Oct 27 21:42:36 <Laurenceb_> its fixed in 3.17.1, but everything else is broken
Oct 27 21:42:46 <Laurenceb_> im contemplating compiling from source
Oct 27 21:46:19 <veremit> Laurenceb .. I strongly recommend writin a new usb driver
Oct 27 21:46:43 <Laurenceb_> lol
Oct 27 21:46:47 <Laurenceb_> beyond my skills
Oct 27 21:46:53 <Laurenceb_> but usb is working now
Oct 27 21:46:56 <Laurenceb_> with 3.17.1
Oct 27 21:46:56 <beegs> bonjour everyone
Oct 27 21:47:04 <Laurenceb_> i need to patch the kernel ?
Oct 27 21:47:08 <Laurenceb_> to get cape support
Oct 27 21:47:24 <veremit> you won't get cape support from 3.9+
Oct 27 21:47:34 <Laurenceb_> why?
Oct 27 21:47:37 <veremit> its not been implemented
Oct 27 21:47:40 <Laurenceb_> ah
Oct 27 21:47:44 <Laurenceb_> thanks for th einfo
Oct 27 21:47:50 <beegs> can anyone tell me why there is no opkg on the latest image?
Oct 27 21:47:51 <Laurenceb_> is there any way to use the adc?
Oct 27 21:48:00 <veremit> there's a lot of either/or with beagle kernels
Oct 27 21:48:07 <Laurenceb_> i dont actually want to use capes
Oct 27 21:48:17 <Laurenceb_> i have my own custom daughtboards
Oct 27 21:48:33 <Laurenceb_> write it in c?
Oct 27 21:50:12 <Laurenceb_> hmm
Oct 27 21:50:46 <Laurenceb_> what is the probability that i will be able to get my hardware (needs adc, pwm, usart, spi, i2c) running with working usb host in the next month?
Oct 27 21:51:28 * Laurenceb_ is wondering if he should abandon the project
Oct 27 21:52:08 <veremit> lol
Oct 27 21:52:44 <Laurenceb_> massive waste of money, but i should have done more research
Oct 27 21:53:02 <Laurenceb_> well i could start work on an stm32f4 based replacement straight away
Oct 27 21:53:15 <Laurenceb_> but i have boards ready for the BBB option
Oct 27 21:53:38 <Laurenceb_> decisions decisions...
Oct 27 21:54:23 <mkad> Laurenceb, wtf are you talking about?
Oct 27 21:54:37 <mkad> Laurenceb, BBB works fine default debian image
Oct 27 21:54:46 <mkad> nothing is broken
Oct 27 21:55:05 <Laurenceb_> mkad: usb host is broken
Oct 27 21:55:09 <mkad> its not
Oct 27 21:55:14 <Laurenceb_> yes it is lol
Oct 27 21:55:15 <mkad> works here
Oct 27 21:55:21 <Laurenceb_> plug and unplug
Oct 27 21:55:26 <Laurenceb_> then it will break
Oct 27 21:55:33 <Laurenceb_> what image do you have?
Oct 27 21:55:38 <mkad> it wont
Oct 27 21:56:16 <mkad> dunno what image Debian jessie
Oct 27 21:56:17 <veremit> mkad .. it IS broken .. it may work for you .. but there are conditions it won't
Oct 27 21:56:18 <mkad> says 3.8.13-bone67
Oct 27 21:56:46 <Laurenceb_> what are you connecting
Oct 27 21:56:50 <mkad> usb
Oct 27 21:56:52 <Laurenceb_> a mouse?
Oct 27 21:56:53 <mkad> to laptop
Oct 27 21:56:55 <Laurenceb_> oh
Oct 27 21:57:00 <Laurenceb_> erm
Oct 27 21:57:03 <mkad> laptop --> bbb
Oct 27 21:57:06 <Laurenceb_> im talking about host here
Oct 27 21:57:07 <mkad> usb cable
Oct 27 21:57:19 <Laurenceb_> not usb ethernet (tho that can break as well)
Oct 27 21:57:52 <mkad> dunno my wifi usb dongle work
Oct 27 21:57:57 <veremit> yes usb host NOT usb client/otg
Oct 27 21:58:25 <Laurenceb_> is it hard to add cape/whatever you need for adc support to 3.17.1-bone4  ?
Oct 27 21:58:32 <Laurenceb_> what does it involve
Oct 27 21:58:46 <mkad> Laurenceb, reading I guess
Oct 27 21:58:50 <Laurenceb_> lol
Oct 27 21:59:07 <Laurenceb_> more than a simple kernel patch?
Oct 27 22:01:01 <mkad> veremit, usb keyboard works as well
Oct 27 22:01:17 <Laurenceb_> what about mass storage?
Oct 27 22:01:29 <Laurenceb_> you dont have to answer that, ive tried already
Oct 27 22:01:33 <mkad> I see mounted partition on my laptop
Oct 27 22:01:44 <mkad> after connecting it with usb cable
Oct 27 22:02:00 <mkad> called BEAGLEBONE capital letters
Oct 27 22:02:10 <Laurenceb_> nooooooo
Oct 27 22:02:24 <Laurenceb_> connect mass storage to the BBB usb host port
Oct 27 22:02:31 <Laurenceb_> then see if it mounts on the BBB
Oct 27 22:02:40 <mkad> Laurenceb, http://www.myinstants.com/instant/darth-vader-nooooooooo/
Oct 27 22:02:45 <mkad> 1s
Oct 27 22:03:49 <beegs> can someone tell me what to use to install mysql5 on the latest image?
Oct 27 22:06:23 <Laurenceb_> what happens if i try this?
Oct 27 22:06:24 <Laurenceb_> http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Robert_Nelson%27s_kernel_build_for_the_BBB
Oct 27 22:42:53 <hxla> Hello, I'm using the debian image on my bbb, how do I change it's resolution? Thanks
Oct 27 22:45:57 <Laurenceb__> what with the "--ti-kernel"  ?
Oct 27 22:46:07 <Laurenceb__> *whats
Oct 27 22:49:46 <hxla> this question was for me?
Oct 27 22:51:10 <Laurenceb__> no, the channel
Oct 27 22:51:26 <hxla> ok
Oct 27 23:13:14 <Laurenceb__> http://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/t/277952.aspx
Oct 27 23:13:34 <Laurenceb__> is this related to 3.8.13 versus 3.17.1 differences?
Oct 27 23:13:41 <Laurenceb__> my hardware works fine with 3.17.1
Oct 27 23:44:57 <Laurenceb__> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/5/29/247
Oct 27 23:58:12 <hxla> is it possible to change the resolution in bbb without rebooting? all articles I've read are kind of old, and I'm not sure if there's a way now
Oct 28 00:16:05 <agmlego> Does xrandr work on the bone, I wonder?
Oct 28 00:17:22 <hxla> nope, I've tried
Oct 28 00:17:27 <hxla> at least not on debian
Oct 28 00:17:52 <hxla> it just shows the current resolution as minimum and maximum
Oct 28 00:42:18 <jpfau> hxla: I highly doubt it. You'd have to resize the framebuffer, which I don't know if Linux can do
Oct 28 00:43:04 <veremit> you can specify the framebuffer on the kernel command-line
Oct 28 00:43:12 <veremit> but I don't know of any way of dynamically changing it
Oct 28 00:43:24 <veremit> unless you've got an X session .. and you -could- use xrandr
Oct 28 00:43:54 <hxla> I'm in a X session, but xrandr won't give me any other resolution to use
Oct 28 00:43:58 <veremit> omapfb.<option> = blah
Oct 28 00:44:45 <veremit> hxla .. you can specify xrandr x by y res.
Oct 28 00:45:30 <veremit> eg. xrandr -s 800x600
Oct 28 00:45:51 <veremit> although it may refuse to change still :)
Oct 28 00:46:56 <hxla> veremit: any resolution I pass, it says that it's not found in available modes
Oct 28 00:47:34 <hxla> when I just run xrandr, the first message it's that it failed to get size of gamma for output default, then it shows the current resolution
Oct 28 00:48:17 <veremit> what display have you got connected?
Oct 28 00:49:49 <hxla> I'm using a samsumg 2033M
Oct 28 00:50:01 <veremit> monitor?
Oct 28 00:50:07 <hxla> tv and monitor
Oct 28 00:50:16 <veremit> ah
Oct 28 00:50:19 <hxla> it has the antenna plug and vga/dvi/hdmi
Oct 28 00:50:32 <veremit> its probably not getting the modes from it correctly
Oct 28 00:51:42 <hxla> is there a way that I could make it recognize the available resolutions?
Oct 28 00:51:57 <veremit> might be worth examining your Xorg.0.log and possibly enabling more debug from the graphics driver
Oct 28 00:55:52 <hxla> veremit: I'm seeing a lot of FBDEV(0): F8IOUTPUTCMAP: Invalid argument on xorg logs
Oct 28 00:56:52 <hxla> DPI is set to 96 and depth to 16 :(
Oct 28 00:57:39 <veremit> I'd suspect if its a TV .. the modes it has might be non-standard and the beagle is trying to find some compromise
Oct 28 00:57:47 <hxla> I'm also using and micro hdmi - hdmi adapter, not sure if that could make things worse
Oct 28 00:57:59 <veremit> if you can work out all the data it needs, and put it manually in xorg.conf might find that better
Oct 28 01:00:11 <veremit> you wll probably find its not got enough graphics ram allocated for very high resolutions though
Oct 28 01:00:50 <lunarpulse> hi dear experts
Oct 28 01:00:52 <hxla> yep, I was checking it with raspberry
Oct 28 01:01:03 <lunarpulse> I am trying to connect my beaglebone to the internet.
Oct 28 01:01:04 <veremit> compare configs
Oct 28 01:01:50 <lunarpulse> pinging 8.8.8.8 shows host unreachable
Oct 28 01:02:20 <lunarpulse> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)           Interrupt:40
Oct 28 01:02:32 <veremit> no IP address ..
Oct 28 01:03:24 <lunarpulse> connecting to the wire
Oct 28 01:03:24 <veremit> ie. networking isn't configured .. do you have a network cable plugged into a router/network capable of DHCP?
Oct 28 01:03:44 <lunarpulse> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43           inet6 addr: fe80::d239:72ff:fe4a:2343/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000           RX bytes:780 (780.0 B)  TX bytes:3143 (3.1 KB)           Interrupt:40
Oct 28 01:04:13 <veremit> erm unless thats supposed to be ipv6 and then I'm lost.
Oct 28 01:04:44 <agmlego> Nah, that is a link-local address.
Oct 28 01:04:47 <agmlego> Not routable.
Oct 28 01:04:59 <lunarpulse> link local address?
Oct 28 01:05:10 <lunarpulse> i will post the entire ifconfig
Oct 28 01:05:12 <veremit> ah like a 169.xxx
Oct 28 01:05:18 <veremit> pastebin/etc pls
Oct 28 01:05:25 <lunarpulse> does usb0 affect the routing?
Oct 28 01:05:40 <veremit> type 'route' and find out :)
Oct 28 01:06:03 <lunarpulse> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# ifconfig eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43           inet6 addr: fe80::d239:72ff:fe4a:2343/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000           RX bytes:780 (780.0 B)  TX bytes:3143 (3.1 KB)
Oct 28 01:06:07 <veremit> check your /etc/resolv.conf too
Oct 28 01:06:15 <lunarpulse> okay
Oct 28 01:06:27 <hxla> veremit: I'll try with another tv/monitor and see if I have different results, will try to find about the current monitor I'm using
Oct 28 01:06:30 <veremit> although that'll only take care of dns resolution
Oct 28 01:06:36 <lunarpulse> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface 192.168.7.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.252 U     0      0        0 usb0 root@arm:/home/ubuntu#
Oct 28 01:07:18 <hxla> lunarpulse: are you using the beagle connected in your pc via usb?
Oct 28 01:07:19 <veremit> hxla .. it will do a certain amount of auto-detection .. but if its odd .. it will likely find some default
Oct 28 01:07:23 <lunarpulse> yes
Oct 28 01:07:43 <lunarpulse> it is connected to pc at the moment
Oct 28 01:07:45 <veremit> looks like usb0 isn't up then ..
Oct 28 01:07:54 * veremit mutters drivers
Oct 28 01:08:03 <hxla> lunarpulse: are you using and ethernet cable on bbb?
Oct 28 01:08:23 <hxla> otherwise you'll have to route through your pc network
Oct 28 01:08:24 <lunarpulse> should I run it interdependently?
Oct 28 01:09:05 <lunarpulse> yes  wireless internet ->pc <-> BBB <-wire
Oct 28 01:09:17 <hxla> veremit: I see, will check it with some other monitors
Oct 28 01:09:42 <hxla> lunarpulse: you probably need to install the drivers to your OS to be able to route your network to bbb
Oct 28 01:10:13 <lunarpulse> I think I did it when I browse "get started" section.
Oct 28 01:10:34 <lunarpulse> I will just install the BBB driver pack again
Oct 28 01:12:06 <lunarpulse> hxla: installed all drivers again
Oct 28 01:12:28 <hxla> I haven't use BBB in this scenario yet, and I'm not aware of which OS are you using in your pc
Oct 28 01:12:55 <hxla> but you need to configure the routing options to allow the BBB to access internet
Oct 28 01:13:13 <lunarpulse> if you use it independently, how do you configure the network setting?
Oct 28 01:13:36 <lunarpulse> hxla: could you explain it in detail?
Oct 28 01:13:58 <hxla> it will automatically try to get an IP address from the dhcp server in your network, probably your wireless router
Oct 28 01:13:59 <lunarpulse> routing options to access the internet?
Oct 28 01:14:30 <lunarpulse> hxla: when I leave as it is as "dhcp
Oct 28 01:14:46 <hxla> if you use a ethernet cable in BBB, it will try to get an IP from dhcp
Oct 28 01:15:03 <lunarpulse> hxla: BBB struggles to receive IP from dhcp..
Oct 28 01:15:20 <veremit> not normally
Oct 28 01:15:30 <lunarpulse> when I connect it with static IP then it connects, but still no access to the internet.
Oct 28 01:15:32 <veremit> mine's always got it 1st time
Oct 28 01:15:42 <veremit> yea thre's still a connection issue then
Oct 28 01:15:57 <lunarpulse> it only can ping 192.168.7.2 but not other IPs
Oct 28 01:16:01 <veremit> dhcp is a fairly good test
Oct 28 01:16:10 <veremit> well thats its local ip
Oct 28 01:16:17 <lunarpulse> not even the router gateway, 192.168.0.1
Oct 28 01:16:17 <veremit> for usb networking
Oct 28 01:16:26 <hxla> haven't you reached the maximum dhcp address of your router? some come with just 10 address by default
Oct 28 01:16:58 <lunarpulse> netgear router and at the moment 7 devices are connected.
Oct 28 01:16:59 <hxla> well, you will only get an ip from dhcp if you add an ethernet cable to bbb
Oct 28 01:17:09 <lunarpulse> so BBB is 9th.
Oct 28 01:17:31 <lunarpulse> probably.
Oct 28 01:17:32 <veremit> cable from router -> bbb
Oct 28 01:17:38 <lunarpulse> I wiyes
Oct 28 01:17:45 <lunarpulse> yes . it is connected like that
Oct 28 01:17:54 <hxla> try that, dhcp eth0
Oct 28 01:18:04 <hxla> and check if eth0 will get an ip
Oct 28 01:18:10 <lunarpulse> it gets.
Oct 28 01:18:26 <lunarpulse> ip from router when set to dhcp
Oct 28 01:18:37 <lunarpulse> but some reason ip address is 1pv6
Oct 28 01:18:40 <hxla> and now, if you try to access the network?
Oct 28 01:18:48 <hxla> ipv6?
Oct 28 01:18:59 <lunarpulse> yes
Oct 28 01:19:09 <hxla> hmm.. can't see why
Oct 28 01:19:20 <lunarpulse> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43           inet6 addr: fe80::d239:72ff:fe4a:2343/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:329 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000           RX bytes:81496 (81.4 KB)  TX bytes:17507 (17.5 KB)           Interrupt:40
Oct 28 01:19:32 <lunarpulse> this is from the report of ifconfig
Oct 28 01:20:42 <lunarpulse> If you have connect BBB to the internet, not via pc, could you tell me? the procedures?
Oct 28 01:21:08 <hxla> well.. mine is connected directly to the router, to a keyboard/mouse and monitor
Oct 28 01:21:12 <lunarpulse> I can set up a monitor and connect BBB to the monitor and a keyboard.
Oct 28 01:21:13 <agmlego> lunarpulse: Do you have a Windows machine on your network?
Oct 28 01:21:25 <lunarpulse> windows machine?
Oct 28 01:21:29 <hxla> it got the ip from the dhcp and it worked just fine
Oct 28 01:21:32 <lunarpulse> I will set up as you did hxla
Oct 28 01:21:35 <agmlego> As in, a computer running WIndows.
Oct 28 01:21:48 <agmlego> WHich is an operating system written by and sold by Microsoft.
Oct 28 01:22:38 <veremit> >,<
Oct 28 01:23:06 <lunarpulse> agmlego: yes the laptop I am using now is a windows based one.
Oct 28 01:23:24 <agmlego> Because, if you have a machine running any version of Windows newer than XP, it has enabled by default an IPv6-to-IPv4 tunnel, and hands out IPv6 addresses.
Oct 28 01:23:45 <veremit> not aware windows has a dhcp server ...
Oct 28 01:23:47 <agmlego> WHich is probably where the IPv6 address is coming from, and can be safely ignored.
Oct 28 01:23:52 <agmlego> veremit: Look up Teredo.
Oct 28 01:23:59 <veremit> you have to install the linux one :)
Oct 28 01:24:02 <agmlego> veremit: Also, IPv6 is rarely assigned by DHCP.
Oct 28 01:24:20 <veremit> not currently agmlego... no
Oct 28 01:24:26 <agmlego> That is kind of not how IPv6 is designed to work.
Oct 28 01:24:28 <lunarpulse> hxla: so, no need of change any network setting to connect to the internet?
Oct 28 01:24:37 <hxla> agmlego: but if the eth0 is connected directly to the router, how would windows assign an ip to this interface?
Oct 28 01:24:55 <hxla> lunarpulse: if it does get a working IP, nope
Oct 28 01:25:00 <agmlego> hxla: Does the router have a switch in it?
Oct 28 01:25:21 <agmlego> A hint: if the router has more than a WAN port and a LAN port, it has a switch in it.
Oct 28 01:26:08 <lunarpulse> agmlego: netgear adsl2 modem router
Oct 28 01:26:31 <lunarpulse> the router only has 1 wan port
Oct 28 01:26:32 <hxla> well, yes but, windows dhcp server would need to override the router's dhcp server
Oct 28 01:26:46 <lunarpulse> I assume this does not have a switch in it
Oct 28 01:27:29 <lunarpulse> my BBB is connected directly to the router, to a keyboard/mouse and monitor
Oct 28 01:28:24 <agmlego> hxla: Teredo is not DHCP.
Oct 28 01:28:32 <agmlego> hxla: IPv6 rarely works via DHCP.
Oct 28 01:28:57 <agmlego> lunarpulse: One WAN port, probably four LAN ports.
Oct 28 01:29:06 <lunarpulse> although it is directly connected to a router with a monitor and keyboard, still [ifconfig] returns ipv6 address.
Oct 28 01:29:25 <veremit> what does "ifconfig -a" return?
Oct 28 01:29:29 <agmlego> The four ports are a five-port switch, with the fifth port connected to the CPU via traces.
Oct 28 01:29:37 <lunarpulse> agmlego: yes. one wan , four lan ports
Oct 28 01:30:12 <lunarpulse> ifconfig eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43           inet6 addr: fe80::d239:72ff:fe4a:2343/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000           RX bytes:780 (780.0 B)  TX bytes:3143 (3.1 KB)           Interrupt:40
Oct 28 01:30:18 <agmlego> hxla: See? Windows machine is runnign Teredo and offering IPv6 addresses, which route nowhere because WIndows is defective by design.
Oct 28 01:30:46 <lunarpulse> I just typed what the ifconfig tells
Oct 28 01:31:30 <lunarpulse> hxla: I am just curious what kind of ip address your BBB gets automatically
Oct 28 01:31:39 <hxla> agmlego: I'm checking what does teredo do... have never got this issue while having windows on the network
Oct 28 01:31:57 <hxla> lunarpulse: it gets a valid ipv4 address from my network
Oct 28 01:32:01 <veremit> what is your PC's IP address? what shows in your network properties?
Oct 28 01:32:38 <lunarpulse> hxla: so the router setting could have prevented BBB getting a valid address?
Oct 28 01:33:18 <lunarpulse> Connection-specific DNS Suffix:  Description: Intel(R) Centrino(R) Wireless-N 2230 Physical Address: ‎60-6C-66-B7-6D-0D DHCP Enabled: Yes IPv4 Address: 192.168.0.4 IPv4 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Lease Obtained: Sunday, 26 October 2014 11:38:45 PM Lease Expires: Wednesday, 29 October 2014 9:17:38 AM IPv4 Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1 IPv4 DHCP Server: 192.168.0.1 IPv4 DNS Server: 192.168.0.1 IPv4 WINS Server:  NetBIOS over Tcpi
Oct 28 01:33:20 <veremit> shut the PC down .. power up the beagle on the cable .. start the PC up
Oct 28 01:34:17 <lunarpulse> veremit: so Windows OS PC can affect BBB?
Oct 28 01:34:31 <veremit> depends what ya got running on it
Oct 28 01:34:58 <lunarpulse> depends what I am running?
Oct 28 01:35:15 <veremit> its sounds like something is interfereing with the normal network configuration
Oct 28 01:35:25 <lunarpulse> true...
Oct 28 01:35:57 <lunarpulse> so everyone here could connect BBB to the internet just out of box?
Oct 28 01:36:12 <veremit> I did
Oct 28 01:36:54 <lunarpulse> veremit: Is your router a special one? not like a normal home router with modem?
Oct 28 01:37:10 <veremit> I've got a zytel thingy
Oct 28 01:37:14 <hxla> I also did, out of box
Oct 28 01:37:21 <veremit> but its connected to a d-link box wirelessly
Oct 28 01:37:23 <lunarpulse> um....
Oct 28 01:37:39 <veremit> it used to directly connect to my 3g router
Oct 28 01:37:47 <lunarpulse> seems like I have been facing a rare case so far..
Oct 28 01:38:05 <veremit> its currently online .. I believe its running my irc bots still ..
Oct 28 01:38:47 <veremit> yup check #veremit
Oct 28 01:38:49 <lunarpulse> do you think if I change the IP address manually, would it work?
Oct 28 01:39:31 <veremit> you have to set your default gateway too
Oct 28 01:39:42 <veremit> otherwise it doesn't know where to 'look'
Oct 28 01:39:43 <lunarpulse> how do I set it?
Oct 28 01:39:57 <lunarpulse> is gateway the router's address?
Oct 28 01:40:01 * veremit scrolls a moment
Oct 28 01:40:03 <veremit> yes
Oct 28 01:40:07 <lunarpulse> which is 192.168.0.1?
Oct 28 01:40:11 <veremit> right
Oct 28 01:40:16 <lunarpulse> okay
Oct 28 01:40:24 <lunarpulse> I will set it now.
Oct 28 01:40:29 <lunarpulse> how can I set it?
Oct 28 01:40:41 <lunarpulse> could you give me some commands for that?
Oct 28 01:40:51 <veremit> route add default gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
Oct 28 01:40:57 <veremit> -should- work
Oct 28 01:41:55 <hxla> you could also configure /etc/network/interfaces
Oct 28 01:42:20 <hxla> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
Oct 28 01:42:36 <hxla> so it won't loose configuration upon reboot
Oct 28 01:42:50 <lunarpulse> SIOCADDRT network unreachable
Oct 28 01:43:34 <lunarpulse> thanks
Oct 28 01:44:01 <lunarpulse> but I got this error message on changing the gateway address
Oct 28 01:46:27 <veremit> yea because your network config is broken lol
Oct 28 01:48:18 <lunarpulse> veremit: How can I fix it?
Oct 28 01:50:45 <veremit> its hard to know whats Wrong right now
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