**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 03 03:00:00 2014 Nov 03 05:18:48 bonsoir: the fact that raspbian is for a computer architecture from the last millenium Nov 03 05:29:21 bonsoir.. if it runs on the r-pi its highly likely to runo n the beagle also Nov 03 05:34:15 veremit`afk: the same binary? Nov 03 05:35:09 I would doubt the same binary would work because of library incompatabilities .. but you can compile the source :) or run python/etc same as. Nov 03 05:40:03 ok, because that was the point of my statement. admittedly I took the guess that by "running raspbian programs" the person meant installing their .deb packages Nov 03 05:40:47 both platforms run variants of debian Nov 03 05:40:56 iirc the same variant in fact Nov 03 05:41:04 yes, but one is compiled for armv6 Nov 03 05:41:09 so if you just compile with the appropriate tools .. any binary will work Nov 03 05:41:25 sorry .. any source will work ;p Nov 03 05:42:05 I thought both were running armhf version of debian .. unless I Was mistaken .. or confused my arm platforms... :) Nov 03 05:42:39 of course you could have the 'done' 3.8 kernel and a armv6 userspace (aka raspbian). if you are into that kind of stuff. lose all cortex/armv7 benefits ofc. Nov 03 05:45:40 well .. you obviously can't run windows on a beagle or a pi .. but otherwise .. both platforms run linux .. so .. Nov 03 05:46:22 I'd be surprised if the BBB debian would be armv6hf. from what I see it uses official debian repositories and those are armv7hf Nov 03 05:47:40 my point is .. you can build apps for the Pi or the Beagle .. or the imx6 or arm5 or whatever variant you like .. the Process is the same. Nov 03 05:48:02 we agree on that. my _sole_ point is binary compatibility. Nov 03 05:48:16 well .. you don't expect to run x86 code on an arm, do you? Nov 03 05:48:17 because: hardware runs software, film at 11. Nov 03 05:49:11 maybe you do .. but the answer is No. :) Nov 03 05:49:43 anyhoo .. I need to sleep .. bbl :p Nov 03 05:49:50 * tbr shrugs Nov 03 06:38:29 helo Nov 03 06:39:04 installe Nov 03 06:39:33 moo Nov 03 06:39:52 installed ubuntu 12.04 on bbb but ubuntu user name and password do not allow me to add a printer Nov 03 06:58:06 jmumby: mhm, you might need to add the user to some group and then restart cups Nov 03 07:35:00 ok will try Nov 03 09:14:10 hi all. I am currently looking at the prussdrv infrastructure. Can someone explain to me what the (newer) 2nd parameter to prussdrv_pru_clear_event() is supposed to mean? Nov 03 09:14:14 I am not sure what it means if both pru0 and pru1 send a PRU_EVTOUT_0 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 03 10:08:03 2014 Nov 03 10:36:28 hi all Nov 03 10:36:52 can someone build MT7601U USB wifi netcard in BeagleBone ? Nov 03 10:37:45 4 Nov 03 10:38:48 5 Nov 03 11:39:34 26 Nov 03 11:50:42 ✌ Nov 03 12:29:49 Howdy. Is there a kernel command line option to tell the (Debian) kernel to a) not use the built-in RTC, and b) use an external I2C as rtc0 right at boot? Nov 03 13:54:26 Peanut: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/13/500 Nov 03 13:54:36 apparently the kernel people did not like it Nov 03 14:20:01 av500: thanks Nov 03 14:24:30 all problems may be solved in an initrd Nov 03 15:06:39 Is there any more or less cheap board/device with Wi-Link 8 hadrware? Nov 03 15:06:59 I've seen BB cape announcement, but it is still in pre-order state Nov 03 15:09:21 yegorich: does it have to be wilink8? Nov 03 15:15:41 av500: I want to test the chip Nov 03 15:18:42 isnt that TIs job? Nov 03 15:20:13 av500: never trust a chip that mdp could have worked on Nov 03 15:21:01 KotH: "there are many TIs" Nov 03 15:21:17 mdp: nobody knows in how many TIs you have worked at Nov 03 15:21:24 mdp: i'm pretty sure you dont know either Nov 03 15:29:51 yegorich: who is making that cape? Nov 03 15:37:56 mdp: http://boardzoo.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/146/category/8#.VFehSvnF98E Nov 03 15:38:27 If I'm going to have such a chip in my design, I want to play with it Nov 03 15:38:36 Just to get feeling. Nov 03 15:38:58 And also test mainline driver support Nov 03 15:39:39 wow, I skimmed the length wiki page on getting it working with BBB Nov 03 15:39:41 just wow Nov 03 15:39:46 Devs from http://wizery.com/ seem to play a lot with this driver Nov 03 15:39:56 now, who is DJA? Nov 03 15:40:07 I stuck an ar6003 sd31 ref board in my BBB and it "just works" with mainline Nov 03 15:41:15 mdp: isn't this board Atheros based? Nov 03 15:41:24 Or what board do you mean? Nov 03 15:41:57 wilink8 is a ti part Nov 03 15:43:07 I suppose some integration nightmare is in order as you need to do the DT update dance for a wilink part to work on BBB Nov 03 15:43:30 versus a pure sdio reference borad with in-band irqs Nov 03 15:45:07 the nightmare is with with the older generation wl127x Nov 03 15:45:20 as it is EOL Nov 03 15:45:38 I'll bet Nov 03 15:46:05 it was a nightmare when we were all DT converted on am335x and wl12xx wasn't converted Nov 03 15:46:33 AFAIK it is still not converted Nov 03 15:47:10 heh Nov 03 15:47:34 arch/arm/mach-omap2/pdata-quirks.c is still there Nov 03 15:47:44 I was actually testing edma on da8xx for that reason many moons ago Nov 03 15:48:11 because I could run wl12xx via board files / pdata in that machine Nov 03 15:49:02 The problem is, that this stuff is still not in mainline kernel: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2014-May/258717.html Nov 03 15:49:24 at least SDIO stuff is discussed for a long time, how to init it in generic way Nov 03 15:50:01 as soon as this is upstreamed, wl stuff can be fully supported by DT Nov 03 15:50:55 I have am335x-evmsk and I'm running recent kernels with DT on it, but some parts are still in arch/arm/mach-omap2/pdata-quirks.c Nov 03 15:50:58 mainline is for hobbyists Nov 03 15:51:26 @av500: :-) Nov 03 15:52:15 You mean it is Utopia? :-) Nov 03 15:54:37 I think I should start looking for one of those atheros SDIO things, just to add it to my device menagerie Nov 03 15:55:24 yegorich: ojn's thread opened up a huge can of worms Nov 03 15:55:37 mdp: yes Nov 03 15:55:53 no surprise it stalled, it went into at least 5 different unfinished areas Nov 03 15:56:06 as is typical for core driver subsystem changes Nov 03 15:56:11 related to DT Nov 03 15:56:33 mdp: any news on this subject? Nov 03 15:56:45 tomasz has a good point about it not being an mmc-only problem..since most parts now do multiple front-ends Nov 03 15:57:10 I know the part we're using on our phone also does HSIC..but we couldn't use that because the vendor driver only does sdio properly Nov 03 15:57:12 I do have a point? Nov 03 15:57:51 (Tomasz hilights, as it's one common way to write my first name) Nov 03 15:57:55 tbr, the ar6003 sd31 ref board? they are insanely expensive. but work in mainline Nov 03 15:58:03 tbr, ;) Nov 03 15:58:06 sorry Nov 03 15:58:19 mdp: ah, so no generic cheap part available with that? Nov 03 15:58:28 mdp: no worries, it was just funny Nov 03 15:59:46 mdp: another can of warms seems to be "Common Display Framework" :-) Nov 03 16:00:03 haven't seen any patches for a long time Nov 03 16:00:38 tbr, afaik, no. I know of no well-supported self-contained SDIO wifi that are inexpensive. doesn't mean there aren't any. I think this atheros unit was in the $800 range. Nov 03 16:01:34 tbr, there should never be an inexpensive one made now because there's no consumer market for them like there was for a while back when PDAs with sdio slots were popular Nov 03 16:01:49 the only thing now is reference boards from the silicon vendors Nov 03 16:04:55 mdp: whoa! sure, if they produce them in small quantity by outsourced companies, this stuff is going to be worth more than its weight in gold Nov 03 16:06:38 https://plus.google.com/u/0/108244279740379322507/posts/2bBNm8AdmKM?pid=6077510713774900098&oid=108244279740379322507 Nov 03 16:11:27 having a ton of trouble trying to enable an i2c bus on debian Nov 03 16:13:12 mdp, tbr: there are modules based on marvell chips that are quite cheap (~50EUR @1) with an SDIO interface, but not in the SDIO formfactor Nov 03 16:13:43 KotH: supported upstream? Nov 03 16:14:01 I have a $15 libertas sdio card that doesn't work already Nov 03 16:14:32 this may be news to everybody, but the hardware is unimportant, the software is *everything* Nov 03 16:14:39 kekeke Nov 03 16:14:51 mdp: linux upstream? yes, kernel drivers were working great with 3.x for x <4 or so Nov 03 16:14:58 i found where it was disabled in am335x-bone.dts and am335x-boneblack.dts. changed to enabled (status = "okay"), recompiled and rebooted. got some new errors in dmesg but still can;t see that i2c bus Nov 03 16:15:26 KotH: which part? Nov 03 16:15:37 mdp: had it running on a x86 laptop (with adapter pcb) and on a home-grown i.mx23 based system Nov 03 16:15:38 KotH: I may need to get some for others on my project Nov 03 16:15:40 is anyone good with device tree or have experience getting all 3 i2c buses usable? Nov 03 16:17:41 KotH: I just had this one in the "junk box" from a previous life so I used it for some feature I needed to start..but it's not practical for others to leverage. Nov 03 16:17:45 mdp: hmm.. we used a 88W8688 based moudul from www.tekmodul.de, but apparently that particular modul disapeared from their list. there are other 8688 based modules though Nov 03 16:18:43 tbr, found it..it was $495, we only paid that because we were needing to do pre-silicon devel for a design win: https://www.cardaccess-inc.com/services/products/index.php?a=details&i=CA-SD31 Nov 03 16:19:55 mdp: if you need more info to said modul/design, invite me to some hot chocolate Nov 03 16:21:12 KotH: at FOSDEM? ;) Nov 03 16:21:23 mdp: i dont drink belgian chocolate Nov 03 16:21:27 mdp: it's awfull Nov 03 16:21:33 mdp: german hot chocolate is acceptable Nov 03 16:21:36 hehe Nov 03 16:24:54 is there a way to search the logs at http://beagleboard.org/static/irclog/ Nov 03 16:25:03 CTRL-F? Nov 03 16:28:27 i tried using the site: operator in google but no results, but now I see it works at the other log location (logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/beagle/) Nov 03 16:51:29 here's my pastebin for trying to get i2c1 bus working: http://pastebin.com/mQTjvVxB Nov 03 16:52:41 for the other 2 buses, there is a "probe deferral" then they init. for the third bus (4802a000), there are multiple "probe deferral"s Nov 03 17:43:53 jkridner: did you register beagleboard.org at GCI? Nov 03 18:05:09 DiegoTc: yes. Nov 03 18:05:20 please help with updates to http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GCI/Ideas following the program guidelines. Nov 03 18:05:30 bone101 tasks would be great additions. Nov 03 18:35:32 jkridner: the wiki is empty, do you have a link for the program guidelines? Nov 03 18:37:05 if it was easy, I'd have already done it. Nov 03 18:38:05 DiegoTc: it would be great if bugs were filed against the repos at http://github.com/beagleboard and many of the tasks were closing those bugs. Nov 03 18:38:48 https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/resources/example-tasks has a nice set of examples. Nov 03 18:39:36 https://www.drupal.org/node/983956 is helpful Nov 03 18:42:08 jkridner: OK! I will worked taking GSOC page idea welcome, what is GCI and then add the task Nov 03 18:47:05 k, but remember the tasks should be much simpler, such as individual tutorials or bug fixes. Nov 03 18:47:31 jkridner: is beagleboard going to send boards? Nov 03 18:48:17 planning to put task, Video Tutorial: update the OS Image Nov 03 18:48:25 and without board that's not possible Nov 03 18:48:29 jkridner: I've updated the Wiki page Nov 03 18:48:34 DiegoTc: for this, the students would be expected to buy a board on their own. :( Nov 03 18:48:34 Hey DiegoTc Nov 03 18:48:37 hi Abhishek_! Nov 03 18:48:46 Abhishek_: DiegoTc is also looking to help out... Nov 03 18:49:02 both, please register on http://www.google-melange.com as mentors. Nov 03 18:49:48 Hi Abhishek_ !!! Nov 03 18:49:59 You click publish first on the wiki Nov 03 18:50:27 I did, yes Nov 03 18:51:03 DiegoTc, Abhishek_: I think we should avoid having cross compiling be a prerequisite, especially for students wanting to tackle Python/JavaScript. Nov 03 18:51:39 I think doing IoT related write-ups would be helpful... improvements to the elinux wiki would be especially welcome. Nov 03 18:52:01 agreed, cross compiling may be a prerequisite for the C related tasks... Nov 03 18:52:01 we could enumerate tasks of various pages/sections that need updating. Nov 03 18:52:42 jkridner: translating the website to spanish is OK to have it as task? Nov 03 18:52:46 of course by pages Nov 03 18:53:01 even for adding kernel modules, you might be able to submit a patch by only building natively... though a full kernel rebuild would be desired and would typically require cross-compilation. Nov 03 18:53:02 that will be several task Nov 03 18:53:18 DiegoTc: I think so, but we need to establish some infrastructure for that... Nov 03 18:53:32 there's a bit of infrastructure for it now, but never fully implemented. Nov 03 18:53:56 I wouldn't want to limit to Spanish, but it depends on languages for which we have mentors. Nov 03 18:54:04 well, I will make a action plan on that and you tell me if it's OK Nov 03 18:58:05 jkridner: I've begun designing and will be releasing the official BeagleLogic cape next month. Nov 03 18:58:05 jkridner: I only see the option of register as an Organization Admin Nov 03 18:58:08 is that oK? Nov 03 18:58:17 DiegoTc: yes, that one Nov 03 18:58:34 DiegoTc: no mentor option? Nov 03 18:58:40 no Nov 03 18:58:58 it gives a Mentor Agreement when you click on the org admin thing Nov 03 19:00:31 Hi! I'm working on an all digital audio output stage for the beagle xm (rev B). The circuit should be based on the STA326 DDX output stage. This chip accepts I2S signals only in slave mode. It's clear to me how to get BCLK,WCLK and SDI from either McBSP2 through the audio expansion header or from McBSP1/3 from the main expansion header. The point where I'm lost is, where to get a suitable master clock (MCLK) for STA326 to stay in sync with the beagle. Is Nov 03 19:00:32 there some usable clock exposed through the expansion headers on the beagle xm? Nov 03 19:05:11 dubito: I tried looking at the Zippy2 schematic I found from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/SPI, but I don't see MCLK there. Nov 03 19:05:34 DiegoTc: jkridner added my 0.2$ there :) Nov 03 19:06:02 it has been a while since I thought about it... seems to me there was a reasonable clock somewhere for MCLK, not just SCLK. Nov 03 19:06:38 How like that vvu? Nov 03 19:06:42 thanks vvu. would really appreciate a handful of tasks in the suitable format. Nov 03 19:07:00 the Drupal requirements for task descriptions look pretty reasonable. Nov 03 19:07:01 will give some thinking on easy tasks they can do on my things :) Nov 03 19:08:22 jkridner: so you are suggesting to use one of the McSPI ports to generate MCLK for I2S? Nov 03 19:08:27 Some suggestions at the GSoC reunion included providing a few "startup" tasks everyone should do. Creating a github account and some kind of blinky-LED bonecard fork (a gist, possibly with some HTML/JavaScript, etc.) seems kinda reasonable to me. Nov 03 19:08:45 Hopefully DiegoTc can provide some first tasks for us. Nov 03 19:09:29 dubito: no, I don't think the McSPI provides an MCLK itself, but I think there is a CLKOUT from which SCLK can be derived on the McSPI. Nov 03 19:09:58 you could always have an external MCLK and make the McSPI be a slave to it. Nov 03 19:14:33 dubito: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/beagleboard/mclk$20spi/beagleboard/WDsKoR9m_Ow/oIaxU9DGLfIJ doesn't seem to give enough info either. :( Nov 03 19:16:19 jkridner: Beginner tasks based on PyBBIO, BoneScript and Documentation, Intermediate involving some userspace C stuff and Higher levels including Kernel and the PRU Nov 03 19:16:32 jkridner: yeah, I've seen this post before, but I didn't really get how exactly they did it Nov 03 19:17:11 dubito: did you e-mail Seppo? Nov 03 19:17:48 no, never considered this Nov 03 19:17:50 <_av500_> jkridner: you want to do gci? Nov 03 19:17:59 _av500_: yup. Nov 03 19:18:03 also the post is already 4 years old Nov 03 19:18:12 <_av500_> jkridner: you know what you are up against? :) Nov 03 19:18:18 dubito: indeed. many -xm posts are that old. Nov 03 19:18:34 dubito: http://www.brianhensley.net/2012/02/spi-working-on-beagleboard-xm-rev-c.html doesn't say where to get a suitable MCLK either. Nov 03 19:18:56 _av500_: probably not. folks at the reunion encouraged me. Nov 03 19:19:20 <_av500_> jkridner: I spoke with the rtems guys a lot Nov 03 19:19:23 <_av500_> about it Nov 03 19:19:34 <_av500_> and I whitnessed it woth ffmpeg some years back Nov 03 19:19:56 * vvu +1s that Nov 03 19:23:04 onslaught? Nov 03 19:23:15 <_av500_> yes Nov 03 19:23:29 trying to get to another degree of usability. going to fight through it. Nov 03 19:23:37 <_av500_> you might have students 24/7 nagging you to ack their tasks Nov 03 19:24:02 yeah.... and drowning #beagle. :( Nov 03 19:24:02 <_av500_> jkridner: we would need an all timezone mod team Nov 03 19:24:13 <_av500_> jkridner: we can have a special channel Nov 03 19:24:16 <_av500_> thats not the issue Nov 03 19:24:20 #beagle-gci Nov 03 19:24:41 <_av500_> as said, that part is easy Nov 03 19:24:50 <_av500_> refilling the tasks all the time is the hard part Nov 03 19:25:08 <_av500_> rtems had CSV files autouploaded to melange because hand edit proved undoable Nov 03 19:25:14 <_av500_> etc Nov 03 19:25:28 yep, I just saw last year RTEMS tasks, they had some 265-odd tasks Nov 03 19:25:50 _av500_: jkridner told me students will need to buy a BBB for task related to HD, that will stop many noisy students Nov 03 19:26:00 <_av500_> HD? Nov 03 19:26:01 if you're really interested you will ge ti t Nov 03 19:26:11 HD=hardware Nov 03 19:26:17 HW Nov 03 19:26:23 <_av500_> ah Nov 03 19:26:32 yeah, we can't afford H/W for all GCI students. They will need to buy on their own. Nov 03 19:26:40 ups, my mistake thanks Abhishek_ Nov 03 19:27:10 _av500_: so I see it that if you want to do a task for BeagleBoard, you will think it two times Nov 03 19:27:17 If DiegoTc can't come up with 101 bone101 tasks, we are all screwed. ;-) Nov 03 19:27:44 page translation will be cool, but I don't know we'll be ready for that by 12/1. Nov 03 19:29:15 jkridner: I don't your plan for that, still with jekyll Nov 03 19:29:23 ummm is it that time of the year again? Nov 03 19:29:40 LetoThe2nd: GCI, not GSoC Nov 03 19:29:59 jkridner: the kids version, IIRC? Nov 03 19:30:05 * Abhishek_ knows that GCI is going to be more noisy than GSoC Nov 03 19:30:07 yep, the kiddie one Nov 03 19:30:24 jkridner: Since all McBSP ports are derived from the same clock, it might be possible to abuse one the non-used McBSPs SCKL as a MCLK Nov 03 19:30:49 do you know wheather that can be clocked that high? Nov 03 19:31:08 vvu: the small "hackers" Nov 03 19:31:29 "hackerlets" Nov 03 19:31:52 Abhishek_: well many will get scared with the prereq: Participating Students are expected to be able to sucessfully cross compile a C program. Nov 03 19:32:16 DiegoTc: hard bummer, yes. Nov 03 19:32:38 well, at least compile a C program. Cross-compiling would be just arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc instead of gcc Nov 03 19:32:52 and they can always compile on the BBB itself Nov 03 19:32:54 jkridner: btw, do you remember t.amberg of yaler? he said he met you in rome Nov 03 19:33:44 DiegoTc: You'll notice all pages have an element called 'lang': https://github.com/beagleboard/beagleboard-org/blob/master/code/Page/page.js Nov 03 19:33:48 LetoThe2nd: yes! Nov 03 19:33:57 met him at the cafe. Nov 03 19:34:20 jkridner: nice, he was at our office today as we're investigating their service Nov 03 19:34:23 I was pleased to meet the author of yaler as I've used yalertunnel in the past. Nov 03 19:35:02 jkridner: yes Nov 03 19:44:40 I made some edits to the prerequisites to make it more clear. Nov 03 19:48:00 <_av500_> jkridner: not completeley against GCI Nov 03 19:49:46 We should do a documentation for the GSOC students. I remember at the begging of the year many emails asking how to do the cross compile example. A small documentation how to do that. It should be on Elinux or bone101, what do you think? Abhishek_ , vvu , jkridner Nov 03 19:50:26 that way jkridner doesn't need to refer to old emails answering the same question Nov 03 19:50:29 DiegoTc: looks like a chicken-and-egg problem. Nov 03 19:51:03 as in, participating students expect to find tutorials on cross-compilation and them ending up writing the very same thing Nov 03 19:51:12 DiegoTc: we all should use the one that Robert is using to compile the kernel Nov 03 19:51:20 the linaro CC think so Nov 03 19:52:05 vvu: which one? Nov 03 19:52:14 I guess good advantage should be taken of this opportunity to generate documentation for the community. Nov 03 19:52:42 https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-ARMCrossCompiler:GCC DiegoTc Nov 03 19:53:32 should be added to the wiki Nov 03 19:54:17 vvu: we have our first task!! Nov 03 19:55:11 we can even have two, a small video showing how to do it, will be the second task Nov 03 19:56:50 a point to be noted is that in GCI, two winners have to be named to visit Google HQ, so the highest level tasks should be of a good level and not just documentation Nov 03 20:00:07 vvu: are you going to add that as a task? Nov 03 20:00:27 not now Nov 03 20:00:36 i will take a look when i have some free time to hack on this page Nov 03 20:00:53 yup, I got to go now too Nov 03 20:06:04 how do you check what device tree overlay dtbo files are loaded? Nov 03 21:01:42 Beagleboard support has been committed to RTEMS Nov 03 21:01:53 <_av500_> hey kiwichris Nov 03 21:02:03 _av500_, hi Nov 03 21:02:55 <_av500_> made it back? :) Nov 03 21:03:40 Yeah and I seemed to have picked up a cold ... blah Nov 03 21:03:48 <_av500_> the usual Nov 03 21:03:54 <_av500_> I came with a cold, left it there Nov 03 21:04:07 <_av500_> so balance in the universe has been restored Nov 03 21:04:33 I spent the weekend with someone from SF so it might be on the way back Nov 03 21:05:52 We should have an easy way to get RTEMS tools plus the various bits built for the Beagleboards soon. The support is now in the kernel. Nov 03 21:07:58 <_av500_> nice Nov 03 21:10:13 i'm curious about this "use the power button" business on the beaglebone black. why is that an issue? what's broken? Nov 03 21:11:22 <_av500_> ? Nov 03 21:12:33 in the box that a BBB ships with, there's a little caution sticker. Nov 03 21:13:01 i don't remember it being there the last time i bought a BBB (ovr a year ago?). i'm wondering what is broken, why can't you just cut power to the thing? why is the power button required? Nov 03 21:32:44 would it be just something for those who do not realize what cutting the power before sync might do to the filesystem? Nov 03 21:33:14 apt-get upgrade, cut power, bone "bricked" --> rma? Nov 03 21:43:39 So I bricked my beagleboard black Nov 03 21:43:54 2 days in, and I wanted the latest image Nov 03 21:44:09 followed the instructions exactly Nov 03 21:44:28 not only did it not update, it also ruined an 32Gb SD card Nov 03 21:44:35 or so I think Nov 03 21:44:58 anyone with similar issues Nov 03 21:48:03 you cannot brick it in SW. Nov 03 21:49:00 can't get it DHCP, thus no SSH Nov 03 21:53:11 therob_, you should be able to boot from uSD card Nov 03 21:54:05 therob_, make uSD flasher image, insert card, press uSD button, power it on Nov 03 21:55:26 therob_, also if you think its bricket you could give it away for free for example send it to someone like me;) Nov 03 21:55:53 he left ^^ Nov 03 22:23:26 makes sense, maybe that's just a CYA for legal purposes or something. Nov 03 22:24:59 though, i see all kinds of notices in the new manual about not powering any pins until SYS_RESET is high Nov 03 22:25:49 maybe people are just stabbing it with voltages and not making proper capes Nov 03 22:26:30 this is such a well-engineered product, especially compared to... the, uh, other very popular ARM-based board everyone has insisted i use for them for a year Nov 03 22:31:53 ^^ Nov 03 22:32:01 kenrestivo, you mean RPee ? Nov 03 22:32:03 :D Nov 03 22:32:55 i ain't sayin nothin. just... after losing an hour of work due to sd card getting corrupted because i dared to plug in a usb wifi dongle... i now do anything important on them via nfsroot Nov 03 22:33:38 and i'm happy to be playing around with a BBB again Nov 03 22:38:22 hi all. I am currently looking at the prussdrv infrastructure. Can someone explain to me what the (newer) 2nd parameter to prussdrv_pru_clear_event() is supposed to mean? Nov 03 22:38:33 I am not sure what it means if both pru0 and pru1 send a PRU_EVTOUT_0 Nov 03 23:58:16 Hi Guys, I am looking for some examples of how to activate multiple UARTs/CAN/GPIOS in the same device tree overlay, does anyone know of any examples? Nov 04 00:11:47 can someone explain what a phandle is in device tree? I'm trying to enable the third i2c bus. It shows up but doesn't work (it just times out when trying to scan). the only difference in the device tree between it and the other 2 buses is the presence of a phandle Nov 04 00:12:17 johnwalkr: a phandle is the result of a reference to a different part of the devicetree. Nov 04 00:12:42 so if nothing else needs to be defined on that i2c bus it needs no phandle? Nov 04 00:13:44 this is really killing me, it works fine on an older version of ubuntu on an sd card, and the process to enable the third bus is much harder than in that case Nov 04 00:14:23 i'm using debian jessie with kernel 3.14.19-ti-r28 Nov 04 00:16:01 sorry, can't help you with your specific problem, but a phandle is the result of a &-reference in the dts. Nov 04 00:16:17 ok, thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 04 03:00:00 2014