**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 04 03:00:00 2014
Nov 04 04:35:35 <felixlee> I hope install MT7601U to beaglebone 3.8 kernel
Nov 04 04:36:16 <felixlee> what kind of article I need reference ? Can someone give me some information about this problem?
Nov 04 06:56:06 <mrpackethead> any python gurus here
Nov 04 08:21:07 <joy_> hi.. I want to getting start Beaglebone black with Code composer studio..
Nov 04 08:21:36 <joy_> would you help me??
Nov 04 08:22:11 <felixlee> joy
Nov 04 08:22:32 <av500> joy_: why CCS?
Nov 04 08:22:34 <felixlee> I need some information about this too
Nov 04 08:23:17 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=code+composer+studio+beaglebone
Nov 04 08:25:27 <joy_> actually making induction motor fault simulator and i have written C code. I have to compile this code in CCS and burn this code in beaglebone Black
Nov 04 08:25:46 <av500> there is no burning
Nov 04 08:25:53 <av500> BBB is a linux system
Nov 04 08:26:04 <av500> you can just copy your program over
Nov 04 08:26:08 <joy_> I want to use CCS because of code limit of KEIL s/w
Nov 04 08:26:26 <av500> ah, you are running standalone code?
Nov 04 08:26:28 <av500> not linux?
Nov 04 08:26:51 <joy_> ya..
Nov 04 08:27:01 <av500> ya what?
Nov 04 08:27:13 <joy_> on windows
Nov 04 08:27:25 <av500> sigh
Nov 04 08:28:26 <joy_> can we use BBB without OS??
Nov 04 08:29:00 <av500> is this a school project?
Nov 04 08:29:48 <joy_> No it is not a school project
Nov 04 08:30:04 <av500> what is it then?
Nov 04 08:30:09 <joy_> I is an industry research project
Nov 04 08:30:13 <av500> aha
Nov 04 08:30:51 <joy_> I want to make a real time system
Nov 04 08:30:57 <av500> so, what do you want to do?
Nov 04 08:32:03 <joy_> I want make my simulator in BBB
Nov 04 08:33:34 <joy_> I can use BBB with OS but it will not be in real time
Nov 04 08:34:01 <av500> that depends
Nov 04 08:34:08 <av500> real time can mean a lot of things
Nov 04 08:34:57 <av500> what are your timing constraints?
Nov 04 08:35:05 <joy_> Can i use BBB without OS??
Nov 04 08:35:23 <av500> see, the BBB has a CPU and memory
Nov 04 08:35:27 <av500> it runs any SW that you put
Nov 04 08:36:14 <joy_> I mean can i use as a development board?/
Nov 04 08:36:25 <av500> well yes
Nov 04 08:36:40 <av500> but then, you can use a lot of things as a development board
Nov 04 08:38:10 <noob> Hey.! im not able to connect to my beaglebone black using ssh.. Can i get any soluiton?
Nov 04 08:39:38 <noob> anyone therE?
Nov 04 08:39:59 <av500> yes
Nov 04 08:40:07 <joy_> In CCS when I'm building my project then for math function like sin, ceil, fmod, sqrt etc it is giving error as undefined function. I have included math library in project
Nov 04 08:40:49 <noob> @av500 : I'm facing problem in connection beaglebone black to my laptop. can u help?
Nov 04 08:41:54 <av500> well, I cannot see your screen
Nov 04 08:41:59 <av500> nor your desk
Nov 04 08:42:05 <felixlee> I want to integrate one USB Wi-Fi wireless NetCard to BBB, the chip base on MT7601U , can someone help me ?
Nov 04 08:42:53 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=MT7601U+linux+driver
Nov 04 08:43:33 <felixlee> Good things, Google was been blocked in China
Nov 04 08:44:06 <noob> @a500 : few days back it was working perfectly.! recently, i'm unable to connect through ssh.. ifconfig not at all detecting beaglebone
Nov 04 08:44:43 <av500> so what did you change?
Nov 04 08:44:57 <av500> felixlee: it might be easier to spend anotheer 50RMB on a stick that is known to work
Nov 04 08:45:22 <noob> I was trying to upgrade.. unfortunately, network got disconnected..
Nov 04 08:45:38 <av500> well, write a fresh image
Nov 04 08:45:46 <felixlee> av500, what mode ?
Nov 04 08:45:56 <av500> mode?
Nov 04 08:46:04 <noob> I did..
Nov 04 08:46:11 <felixlee> what kind of WiFi USB card ?
Nov 04 08:46:16 <noob> same problem..
Nov 04 08:47:07 <yegorich> felixlee: try TL-WN727N V3
Nov 04 08:47:25 <av500> something atheros or ralink based I guess
Nov 04 08:47:33 <yegorich> felixlee: V3 is very important, because V4 has another chip
Nov 04 08:47:35 <av500> I have no idea
Nov 04 08:47:39 <av500> I dont use one
Nov 04 08:48:30 <yegorich> felixlee: V3 has this chip: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter
Nov 04 08:49:43 <yegorich> @av500: we're playing with http://www.logicsupply.eu/beaglebone-black/accessories/uwn200/ right now. It's so awesome to see ra0 device with kernel 3.15 :-)
Nov 04 08:51:49 <felixlee> I think it is better change some source code for that kernel module
Nov 04 08:52:15 <felixlee> I wll try to do some test work for install that kernel module
Nov 04 08:53:01 <felixlee> by the way, if I install the kernel module for wifi netcard ,  Can I need edit dtd file for wifi netcard ?
Nov 04 08:56:14 <av500> I dont think you need to edit the dtd for that
Nov 04 08:56:17 <av500> its a usb driver
Nov 04 08:56:25 <av500> not on-board
Nov 04 09:58:05 <splect> hi, any suggestions on how to attach a push button to a beaglebone black, preferably using gpio?
Nov 04 09:59:39 <tbr> mux it as such? try looking how the other button is set up?
Nov 04 10:01:38 <splect> the other button?
Nov 04 10:03:14 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+add+button
Nov 04 11:01:39 <mdp> av500: brilliant!
Nov 04 12:42:23 <Ciapa> Hey guys, I have a little question: When using the BBB as Mass Storage Device over LAN, would the normal USB Power from the host be enough?
Nov 04 12:44:09 <KotH> most likely
Nov 04 12:44:24 <KotH> depending on what you connect on the BBB
Nov 04 12:44:42 <woglinde> hello koth
Nov 04 12:44:47 <KotH> but BBB plus some SD-card is easily possible
Nov 04 12:44:49 <KotH> hoi woglinde
Nov 04 12:46:22 <Ciapa> It should be connected to a gaming console(Wii/U) to make game streaming from my NAS possible(which makes my HDD usable for more than just the console itself)
Nov 04 12:46:59 <Ciapa> So in general it should be LAN <-> BBB <-> Console
Nov 04 12:48:08 <nomis> is there a mailinglist for beagle bone related questions? Especially regarding PRUs and the prussdev infrastructure?
Nov 04 12:48:31 <tbr> Ciapa: there are certain pitfalls with this. it might not work how you expect it to
Nov 04 12:48:41 <nomis> prussdrv even.
Nov 04 12:48:47 <tbr> nomis: there is the google group
Nov 04 12:49:23 <nomis> tbr: ah, thanks.
Nov 04 12:49:32 <Ciapa> tbr: what could cause difficulties?
Nov 04 12:50:17 <tbr> Ciapa: does your console support MTP or only usb mass storage?
Nov 04 12:50:26 <woglinde> Ciapa througput is low
Nov 04 12:50:31 <woglinde> I would not use it
Nov 04 12:50:56 <Ciapa> tbr: only mass storage
Nov 04 12:52:55 <tbr> Ciapa: then you can only do exclusive filesystem access. it won't work "transparently", like accessing random files through SMB/CIFS/NFS. It would only work on block device level.
Nov 04 12:54:37 <Ciapa> Shouldn't it be possible to create a Loop device on the Network Share and let the console use it?
Nov 04 12:56:42 <nomis> well, one could implement a thing that maps block accesses to files on some server.
Nov 04 12:57:01 <nomis> i.e. a virtual FAT
Nov 04 13:00:21 <Ciapa> I meant one single file created on the server, which is used for the loop device. or is this impossible?
Nov 04 13:00:59 <av500> sure
Nov 04 13:01:18 <av500> you can make a FAT image on the NAS and serve that to the WII via the BBB
Nov 04 13:01:25 <av500> drive image
Nov 04 13:02:00 <Ciapa> yeah, that's what I wanted to know, thanks!
Nov 04 13:47:52 <tbr> Ciapa: yes, that will work. just wanted to be sure you don't expect concurrent and transparent access. We've had that before.
Nov 04 14:26:14 <mistawright> hi guys i bought the beaglebone black motocape from mouser and have only found the documentation on the elinux website. Has anyone used this cape before? How should I go about controlling speed through pwm with it?
Nov 04 14:26:35 <mistawright> I have a feeling I have destroyed a few hbridges by not sending the correct pwm signals
Nov 04 14:58:41 <viktech> yo!  i am planning my first project, i have picked beaglebone black as the platform
Nov 04 14:58:44 <viktech> i am excited
Nov 04 14:58:53 <viktech> it is badass
Nov 04 15:00:51 <nomis> viktech: welcome to the world of the badassness  :)
Nov 04 15:01:16 <viktech> i am designing a a controlled and automated aeroponic grow system.  the beaglebone will do functions related to electrical, environmental, pressure, flow monitoring and control
Nov 04 15:01:39 <viktech> as well as serve me webpages allowing remote monitoring
Nov 04 15:03:06 <viktech> ideally at some point i can incorporate solar panels into it.  once it runs ill measure draw, and math up the array
Nov 04 15:03:39 <viktech> and from what i understand, i have chosen the ideal device for an application like this
Nov 04 15:04:15 <av500> many devices can be used
Nov 04 15:04:20 <av500> BBB is suitable, yes
Nov 04 15:09:24 <viktech> there are a whole bunch though
Nov 04 15:10:37 <viktech> and id rather not spend all my money on a bunch of them, which will happen if i continue to research this
Nov 04 15:11:44 <viktech> considering im already doing that on sensors and motors
Nov 04 15:11:53 <viktech> oh yeah
Nov 04 15:13:33 <viktech> question.  the raspberry pi and beaglebones do not support network boot.  what is the reason for not having that capability?
Nov 04 15:13:54 <nomis> viktech: what do you mean by "network boot"?
Nov 04 15:14:02 <nomis> booting the linux kernel from the network?
Nov 04 15:14:11 <nomis> booting the u-boot bootloader from the network?
Nov 04 15:14:22 <nomis> mounting the root filesystem from the network?
Nov 04 15:16:55 <viktech> i meant specifically to PXE boot from a network resource
Nov 04 15:17:03 <av500> no
Nov 04 15:17:13 <av500> no PXE boot
Nov 04 15:17:27 <av500> the rpi has a "test" chip, no need for PXE there
Nov 04 15:17:43 <av500> the BBB does not have it either
Nov 04 15:17:58 <viktech> can you elaborate on "'test' chip"
Nov 04 15:18:14 <av500> the rpi SoC is a test silicon for the videocore GPU
Nov 04 15:18:26 <av500> that BCM bought
Nov 04 15:19:14 <viktech> who is BCM
Nov 04 15:19:33 <av500> broadcom
Nov 04 15:19:37 <viktech> oh
Nov 04 15:20:11 <mistawright> how are device tree overlays handled with the 3.14 kernel?
Nov 04 15:20:16 <viktech> OK SO
Nov 04 15:20:53 <nomis> viktech: the raspberry does not have any persistant memory where the program implementing PXE could be stored.
Nov 04 15:21:08 <av500> of course it has
Nov 04 15:21:21 <av500> it has ROM code much the same as the BBB has
Nov 04 15:21:35 <av500> but nobody bothered to add PXE to the ROM code
Nov 04 15:21:49 <DrDeagle> they should remove the gpu from the rasp, upgrade the arm cpus to 8. and add a second one
Nov 04 15:21:59 <nomis> av500: but you can't implement PXE there since that'd need information about the surrounding board, specifically the ethernet transceiver etc.
Nov 04 15:22:12 <av500> that too
Nov 04 15:22:26 <av500> anyway, long story short, no PXE
Nov 04 15:22:33 <viktech> sry; you mentioned uboot.  cursory googlage tells me it is a boot loader.  am i able to boot using PXE through this?
Nov 04 15:22:40 <av500> pop an sd card inside that does PXE and by done
Nov 04 15:22:47 <av500> be done
Nov 04 15:22:59 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=uboot+pxe
Nov 04 15:23:00 <viktech> get done, son
Nov 04 15:23:08 <viktech> pfft made me look like a noob
Nov 04 15:23:11 <nomis> viktech: u-boot might have some PXE support. Not sure. It can support dhcp and tftp, so the most vital parts are there.
Nov 04 15:23:23 <viktech> got it
Nov 04 15:24:33 <viktech> thanks for the knowledge.  i will be back
Nov 04 15:24:41 <av500> we'll wait :)
Nov 04 15:28:29 <Abhishek_> the pi doesn't even have a native eth controller, uses a USB-Ethernet chipset
Nov 04 15:29:01 <mistawright> hi guys i installed ubuntu 14.04 armhf console with the 3.14 kernel. how do i go about using device tree overlays with this kernel?
Nov 04 15:29:10 <mistawright> is it a possibility currently?
Nov 04 15:30:22 <KaaK> correct me if im wrong, but shouldnt most common devices be exposed by default in 3.14?
Nov 04 15:31:01 <mistawright> what about custom devices? I also noticed i have no bonecapemgr directory in /sys/devices/
Nov 04 15:31:17 <av500> there is no more capemgr
Nov 04 15:32:32 <KaaK> dynamic overlays are in the process of being merged (or perhaps already included) into newer kernels
Nov 04 15:34:45 <woglinde> panto where are you
Nov 04 15:34:49 <woglinde> customers
Nov 04 15:34:50 <woglinde> *g*
Nov 04 15:36:36 <mistawright> KaaK, where can I find info about this
Nov 04 15:36:42 <KaaK> mistawright, https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/drivers/of/dynamic.c
Nov 04 15:37:21 <woglinde> mistawright look at the slides or video if they are already out from elce 2014 given by panto
Nov 04 15:39:35 <KaaK> mistawright, depending on your comfort level, you might try diving into writing/modifying DTs to your own ends -- its very liberating knowledge if you're doing alot of work with interfacing to external devices
Nov 04 15:41:16 <KaaK> additionally, i've found its the kind of work you do exactly once, and then just use for a very long time -- it's pretty rare (i.e. never needed) to need to change the configuration of a peripheral at run time in my experience
Nov 04 15:49:30 <jacekowski> KaaK: depends
Nov 04 15:49:35 <jacekowski> KaaK: onewire bus requires that
Nov 04 15:50:00 <jacekowski> changing I/Os to be outputs/inputs
Nov 04 15:50:06 <mistawright> thanks for the info guys will do some more digging
Nov 04 15:52:09 <mistawright> woglinde, panto wouldnt be frank rowand would he?
Nov 04 15:53:09 <woglinde> aeh no
Nov 04 15:53:37 <mistawright> wrong slides then
Nov 04 15:54:03 <woglinde> http://lccoelce14.sched.org/event/7eceed48bd7130d60af418cc8337263b?iframe=no&w=&sidebar=yes&bg=no#.VFj2kx9JOCg
Nov 04 15:55:37 <mistawright> woglinde, http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/dynamic-dt-elce14.pdf
Nov 04 15:55:43 <mistawright> looks like i found them
Nov 04 15:55:46 <mistawright> thanks
Nov 04 15:56:02 <woglinde> fine ,)
Nov 04 16:01:20 <KaaK> mistawright, nice link! -- hadn't found that one
Nov 04 16:02:41 <woglinde> Kaak good I could multiply panto's talk
Nov 04 16:31:20 <christiangm> hello there, is there a tutorial for setting a gpio pin in device tree for beagleboard xm, kernel version 3.17 ?
Nov 04 16:32:49 <christiangm> i tried this but it is not working,
Nov 04 16:32:52 <christiangm> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/J2mv8xoW34o/uPIYY11SmeoJ
Nov 04 16:33:17 <woglinde> is 3.17 really working this stable?
Nov 04 16:34:41 <christiangm> the dtb device tree files are the same for 3.14 and 3.17
Nov 04 16:35:56 <christiangm> i decompiled omap3-beagle-xm.dtb and edited it to activate some more gpio but no luck until now
Nov 04 16:52:42 <Farid> Hi
Nov 04 16:53:21 <Farid> I need some information about your beaglabone black borad
Nov 04 16:53:37 <Farid> where can I find all its features
Nov 04 16:53:48 <tbr> in the SRM which is on the webpage
Nov 04 16:54:15 <tbr> and if that's not enough, read the TRM for the SoC too
Nov 04 16:54:18 <Farid> and what kind of other embeded boards do you have
Nov 04 16:54:30 <tbr> we don't have any boards
Nov 04 16:54:35 <tbr> we are the community
Nov 04 16:59:03 <woglinde> I have only two boards
Nov 04 16:59:09 <woglinde> others have 1000nd
Nov 04 16:59:12 <woglinde> hm oh he left
Nov 04 17:02:50 <GJN_> Anyone doing any cellular development?
Nov 04 17:15:43 <DiegoTc> hi vvu, I just saw your taks for GCI
Nov 04 17:52:16 <DiegoTc> ./ join #GSOC
Nov 04 17:56:19 <vvu> DiegoTc: yep will upload more, have some ideas
Nov 04 17:57:09 <DiegoTc> what about the exampel of the cross compiling
Nov 04 17:59:29 <vvu> you can put it under documentation tasks
Nov 04 17:59:35 <DiegoTc> OK
Nov 04 18:01:42 <panto> back
Nov 04 18:18:45 <woglinde> jo panto
Nov 04 18:18:52 <panto> hi woglinde
Nov 04 18:27:53 <mistawright> ./ join #GSOC
Nov 04 18:54:48 <denny123__> hiiiii
Nov 04 18:54:52 <denny123__> Anyone here?
Nov 04 18:54:55 <denny123__> I need some help
Nov 04 18:59:20 <denny123__> Hii
Nov 04 18:59:23 <denny123__> anyone
Nov 04 18:59:26 <denny123__> here?
Nov 04 18:59:30 <adj> no.
Nov 04 19:21:31 <idwer> what's going on when 'usb start' in the second autoboot menu (the one that responds to ^c) fails with this message: "USB error: all controllers failed lowlevel init"?
Nov 04 19:21:43 <idwer> no usb devices are attached at all
Nov 04 19:21:57 <idwer> this is on a bbb rev. b
Nov 04 19:24:55 <idwer> perhaps the uboot image is too old? U-Boot 2013.10
Nov 04 19:29:51 <idwer> apparently running 'usb reset' twice makes the device appear
Nov 04 21:38:12 <brian___> I was wondering if it was possible to get the spec sheets for all of the components used on the BeagleBone Black.
Nov 04 21:38:58 <brian___> I am particularly interested in temperature ranges at which the BBB can operate and I want to find the components that will fail first
Nov 04 21:45:04 <_av500_> BBB is not for industrial temperatures
Nov 04 21:45:37 <_av500_> you can get the data sheets of a lot of the components
Nov 04 21:45:57 <_av500_> but that still might not tell you the whole story
Nov 04 21:50:36 <brian___> I was wondering if anyone knew where to find schematics for all of the BeagleBone Black components. I am interested in the temperature range at which the BBB can operate.
Nov 04 21:51:22 <_av500_> components dont have schematics
Nov 04 21:51:26 <_av500_> they have data sheets
Nov 04 21:51:32 <_av500_> try all the different manufacturers
Nov 04 21:51:41 <_av500_> also, what I just wrote:
Nov 04 21:51:44 <_av500_> 22:45 <         _av500_@> BBB is not for industrial temperatures
Nov 04 21:51:44 <_av500_> 22:45 <         _av500_@> you can get the data sheets of a lot of the components
Nov 04 21:51:44 <_av500_> 22:45 <         _av500_@> but that still might not tell you the whole story
Nov 04 21:52:57 <brian___> @_av500_ thanks
Nov 04 22:11:35 <bofo> I was wondering where to find the data sheets for the individual components used on the BeagleBone Black
Nov 04 22:24:11 <_av500_> again?
Nov 04 23:33:43 <freq> looks like this community is stronger than the raspi's
Nov 04 23:36:55 <freq> hi Bob_Saget
Nov 04 23:38:51 <Bob_Saget> hey freq
Nov 04 23:53:28 <freq> ok i echo'd a repo and want to remove it
Nov 04 23:53:36 <freq> it's not in /etc/apt/sources.list
Nov 05 00:04:05 <Bob_Saget> freq: you check /etc/apt/source.d?
Nov 05 00:19:53 <kadodo> mike test
Nov 05 00:20:13 <agmlego> Mike broken.
Nov 05 00:20:55 <kadodo> :)
Nov 05 00:20:57 * UnixMonky drops mike
Nov 05 00:29:28 <vvu> jkridner:any more ideas for GCI? i put some on elinux
Nov 05 00:30:09 <jkridner> some, but thoughts... need to set the time apart to write them down...
Nov 05 00:30:37 <vvu> i will add some more in BBBlfs and BARD in the following days
Nov 05 00:30:39 <jkridner> wanting a bit of peace for a couple hours right now. :-)
Nov 05 00:31:29 <vvu> no worries :)
Nov 05 01:05:30 <idwer> and then I presumed updating u-boot was simple.. make am335x_boneblack_defconfig && make
Nov 05 01:05:45 <idwer> copy the new binaries, reboot
Nov 05 02:16:57 <idwer> ok, can now boot the newer uboot
Nov 05 02:17:02 <idwer> now usbboot.. hmm
Nov 05 02:17:15 <kenrestivo> DAS UBOOT, JA
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