**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 29 02:59:58 2014
Dec 29 07:45:13 <palani> IP address is not connect.. next what I do?
Dec 29 07:47:35 <tbr> what ip address? how? what are you doing?
Dec 29 08:47:15 <palani> 1.usb plug my BBB without micro SD card. 2. Installed usb driver for widows 32 bit. It is installed done 3. Next I had try to 192.168.7.2 IP address.........But This IP address is give error and it not allowed
Dec 29 08:48:30 <palani> Can help me ? how to go and started IP address?
Dec 29 08:51:39 <palani> I could not connect to this IP address 192.168.7.2
Dec 29 08:55:56 <tbr> palani: can you see the USB network interface on your windows machine in settings?
Dec 29 08:56:37 <tbr> palani: what is the OS installed on the BBB?
Dec 29 08:58:42 <palani> still now I don't install os on BBB
Dec 29 08:59:11 <tbr> is there any LED activity?
Dec 29 08:59:36 <palani> 1st and 3rd LED are blinking
Dec 29 09:05:54 <palani> when could I check ip address after os installed or before os installed on BBB?
Dec 29 09:09:12 <palani> anyone could you help me?
Dec 29 09:25:48 <hitlin37> ifconfig
Dec 29 11:46:09 <knob> Good morning everyone =)
Dec 29 11:47:05 <Mikaela> hi
Dec 29 11:48:46 <knob> Hey yah Mikaela
Dec 29 11:48:48 <knob> How you doing?
Dec 29 11:49:18 <Mikaela> being worried because my father is making agreement with new ISP, and you?
Dec 29 11:51:24 <knob> lol relax
Dec 29 11:51:33 <knob> I am doing good over here... starting the morning fighting fires.
Dec 29 11:51:38 <knob> Going to get some coffee...
Dec 29 11:51:45 <knob> What agreements?   More bandwidth? Or new provider?
Dec 29 11:52:36 <Mikaela> less bandwidth and new provider
Dec 29 11:52:55 <Mikaela> we currently have had 20mbit/s for years and the meaximum capacity of cable is 13mbit/s
Dec 29 11:53:09 <Mikaela> and there is "small price difference"
Dec 29 11:53:16 <Mikaela> and I am not sure on this ISP
Dec 29 11:53:52 <knob> Then why the switch?
Dec 29 11:54:01 <knob> You can always stay with the old provider, and pay it yourself.
Dec 29 11:54:10 <knob> That would make him happy.
Dec 29 11:54:57 <Mikaela> pay 20+€ more in a month than cable can handle?
Dec 29 11:55:19 <Mikaela> *pay 20+€ more for connection that cable cannot handle?
Dec 29 11:56:00 <knob> Odd... yet look, what I always tell my little sister:  There are kids in Africa that don't have internet.   So, no complaining.
Dec 29 18:18:41 <knob> hello!
Dec 29 19:01:29 <PKBeagle> Hi..anybody there to help me out please?
Dec 29 19:02:02 <PKBeagle> I have just got my beaglebone black and want to write a Ubuntu image on it because I have to run ROS over that.
Dec 29 19:03:06 <PKBeagle> ????
Dec 29 19:03:17 <PKBeagle> @gusnan
Dec 29 19:03:29 <PKBeagle> can you help me please?
Dec 29 19:04:40 <PKBeagle> hello
Dec 29 19:05:23 <PKBeagle> please.....anybody reply
Dec 29 19:06:41 <PKBeagle> @gusnan please help me
Dec 29 19:06:48 <PKBeagle> can you give me only 5minutes
Dec 29 19:08:27 <tbr> PKBeagle: a) patience
Dec 29 19:08:39 <slasher_> hi
Dec 29 19:08:44 <tbr> PKBeagle: b) why does it need to be ubuntu?
Dec 29 19:08:54 <tbr> moo slasher_
Dec 29 19:09:03 <Mikaela> hi
Dec 29 19:09:05 <slasher_> does anyone know how to get on Gate One SSH
Dec 29 19:09:18 <PKBeagle> if it can be installed without ubuntu then you may please guide me accordingly
Dec 29 19:09:32 <slasher_> does anyone know how to get on Gate One SSH
Dec 29 19:10:06 <tbr> slasher_: I think that's no longer used
Dec 29 19:10:13 <tbr> PKBeagle: what is "it"?
Dec 29 19:10:24 <agmlego> ROS.
Dec 29 19:10:27 <PKBeagle> ROS is robotic operating system
Dec 29 19:10:46 <tbr> no idea bout that
Dec 29 19:10:54 <agmlego> WHich *can* be installed on anything, but the devs really set it up to work well on Ubuntu.
Dec 29 19:11:15 <PKBeagle> @agmlefo you know about ROS?
Dec 29 19:11:53 <agmlego> Not much, no.
Dec 29 19:12:26 <PKBeagle> so do you know how to install ROS on BBB?
Dec 29 19:12:50 <agmlego> Nope.
Dec 29 19:13:10 <rcn-ee> PKBeagle, the BBB image hosted here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu should work fine with ROS..
Dec 29 19:13:10 <agmlego> But I imagine that any tutorial that shows how to install an image on, will work for the ROS image.
Dec 29 19:13:36 <rcn-ee> Then just run: http://wiki.ros.org/indigo/Installation/UbuntuARM
Dec 29 19:15:21 <rcn-ee> PKBeagle, no reason to pm... those two links will get you up and running... post questions when you have them..
Dec 29 19:15:40 <PKBeagle> ok..thanks!
Dec 29 19:15:54 <agmlego> PKBeagle: A really, really, really good use of your next lunch break would be to read, thoroughly, the first link in the channel topic.
Dec 29 19:16:24 <agmlego> PKBeagle: Because at the moment, the way you are trying to get help is actually turning off the people most likely to be able to help you.
Dec 29 19:16:33 <PKBeagle> Yup....thanks to all of you.....feel like a lot is ahead to read now...
Dec 29 19:18:02 <PKBeagle> Actually the problem is it is my very first BBB and I can't afford to get it bricked or to lose it forever....hehe.because it has a lot to do yet
Dec 29 19:18:25 <rcn-ee> You can't brick a bbb...
Dec 29 19:18:57 <PKBeagle> will meet you people again after I read those links....feeling happy to initiate the quest on BBB
Dec 29 19:21:12 <vagrantc> rcn-ee: that sounds like a challenge
Dec 29 19:22:24 <rcn-ee> vagrantc, abuse of the bbb's pcb doesn't count. ;)
Dec 29 19:22:43 <agmlego> Heh.
Dec 29 19:24:11 <cityLights> I see 3.8.13 is the stable kernel
Dec 29 19:24:17 <agmlego> Do you?
Dec 29 19:24:26 <vagrantc> i guess presence of /proc/device-tree/hdmi/* could be used to distinguish between BBW and BBB
Dec 29 19:24:30 <rcn-ee> cityLights, more like "maintance"...
Dec 29 19:24:40 <rcn-ee> and the memory size.. ;)
Dec 29 19:24:54 <rcn-ee> you could have an hdmi cape on the bbw. ;)
Dec 29 19:24:58 <vagrantc> oh
Dec 29 19:25:04 <cityLights> I also see rcn-ee published a bunch of kernels in his repo
Dec 29 19:25:24 <cityLights> so I tried to find why not to upgrade to say 3.18 stable
Dec 29 19:25:33 <rcn-ee> vagrantc, the best check is "dmesg | grep ES"  bbw should be 1.0 bbb's will be 2.0
Dec 29 19:26:12 <rcn-ee> that might be under /proc/cpuinfo... checks..
Dec 29 19:26:48 <cityLights> does 3.18 has the device tree (GPIO) support as in 3.8.13 ?
Dec 29 19:27:02 <vagrantc> just how uncommon are the BBW boards, anyways?
Dec 29 19:27:20 <cityLights> where does rcn-ee publish the release notes for the kerenel packages?
Dec 29 19:27:31 <rcn-ee> vagrantc, dmesg | grep AM335X -> [    0.000000] AM335X ES2.0 (l2cache sgx neon )
Dec 29 19:27:33 <rcn-ee> that's a black..
Dec 29 19:28:03 <rcn-ee> all white's will be ES1.x
Dec 29 19:28:03 <agmlego> vagrantc: Pretty uncommon. There were about 17 billion beaglebone blacks made, and less than 100 whites made.
Dec 29 19:28:06 <rcn-ee> some pre-production (non released black's) where ES1.X debian can ignore those..
Dec 29 19:28:11 <agmlego> (numbers not necessarily to scale)
Dec 29 19:28:15 <cityLights> so, I can tell if 3.18 has known issues, and if the 3.19 fixes them
Dec 29 19:28:37 <rcn-ee> i'd say 250 : 1...
Dec 29 19:28:42 <agmlego> cityLights: YOu know you could just ask rcn-ee--he is literally active in this channel right now.
Dec 29 19:29:12 <rcn-ee> cityLights, give v3.19-rc2 a shot: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.19-rc2-bone0 ; sudo reboot
Dec 29 19:29:22 <cityLights> rcn-ee: is there any reason not to use your 3.18 kernel?
Dec 29 19:29:29 <vagrantc> rcn-ee: I am amittedly hesitant to rely on dmesg output...
Dec 29 19:29:31 <rcn-ee> 3.19 has overlays. ;)
Dec 29 19:29:56 <vagrantc> rcn-ee: i'm thinking the "disable support for BBW" will be the way to go in Jessie for flash-kernel ...
Dec 29 19:30:14 <cityLights> 3.18 has package without the rc in them - so they should be more stable - right?
Dec 29 19:30:50 <agmlego> Why?
Dec 29 19:30:58 <cityLights> rcn-ee: do you provide any release notes for the kernel packages?
Dec 29 19:31:22 <cityLights> rc =  release candidate
Dec 29 19:31:33 <agmlego> So?
Dec 29 19:31:35 <cityLights> so rc != stable
Dec 29 19:31:52 <agmlego> RC does not mean unstable, RC just means not release version yet.
Dec 29 19:32:03 <agmlego> THere may not be any changes at all between an RC and the release.
Dec 29 19:32:31 <rcn-ee> cityLights, if i post a release... it "booted" in the lab.. otherwise you can watch my git changes. ;)
Dec 29 19:32:41 <cityLights> agmlego: is there any reason not to use 3.19, then?
Dec 29 19:33:20 <cityLights> does boot include usin the GPIO ?
Dec 29 19:33:40 <rcn-ee> there's a weird error: IRQ0 error when you transfer a large dataset over the eth0 (cpsw) interface..
Dec 29 19:33:57 <agmlego> cityLights: rcn-ee is the correct person to ask as it is his kernel.
Dec 29 19:33:58 <rcn-ee> v3.19 has the gpio-hog device tree node..
Dec 29 19:34:14 <vagrantc> stable != less likely to crash
Dec 29 19:34:29 <vagrantc> stable can also mean not changing as much
Dec 29 19:34:42 <rcn-ee> vagrantc, if you don't want dmesg, your only really bet is "cat /proc/meminfo".. ;)
Dec 29 19:35:31 <vagrantc> rcn-ee: the white has less ram?
Dec 29 19:35:41 <rcn-ee> 256 vs 512. ;)
Dec 29 19:36:04 <vagrantc> that seems pretty reliable.
Dec 29 19:36:30 <rcn-ee> and the ES1.x silcon was pretty buggy, i don't think you'll find anyone who modified a white for 512...
Dec 29 19:37:34 <cityLights> ok, I see what gpio-hog mean
Dec 29 19:37:58 <cityLights> where do i report bugs for 3.19?
Dec 29 19:38:15 <agmlego> github...?
Dec 29 19:38:25 <rcn-ee> cityLights, it allows you to define the gpio's state at the same time as initialitzing the gpio controller... thus as early as possible..  useful for say keeping the eMMC's reset line reset..
Dec 29 19:39:15 <cityLights> ok, so I take it that pwm,adc all work fine with 3.19
Dec 29 19:39:25 <cityLights> i will take it for a spin then
Dec 29 19:39:25 <rcn-ee> adc works fine..
Dec 29 19:39:35 <rcn-ee> someone "really" interested in pwm needs to figure it out..
Dec 29 19:39:41 <cityLights> rcn-ee are you from Europe?
Dec 29 19:40:06 <rcn-ee> 3 generations back i was.
Dec 29 19:40:11 <cityLights> rcn-ee , so pwm wont work for me, I see
Dec 29 19:40:24 <cityLights> will yu visit FOSDEM?
Dec 29 19:41:09 <rcn-ee> no... someone "interested" in pwm, needs to figure out how to properly enable it..  as of v3.19-rcX all the pieces should be their...
Dec 29 19:41:27 <rcn-ee> it's a matter of properlly setting up the pinmux/dts node/etc..
Dec 29 19:41:42 <cityLights> I see
Dec 29 19:42:39 <cityLights> well, no i don't understand, is this diffren then the device tree used in 3.8?
Dec 29 19:43:00 <cityLights> need I read how to setup pwm?
Dec 29 19:43:40 <rcn-ee> for example in 3.18, i'm using a gpio-backlight property for the lcd's backlight: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/blob/3.18.1-bone1/arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-bone-bl-gpio1-18.dtsi  this can be changed to a pwm node and should work in v3.19..
Dec 29 19:43:51 <PKBeagle> rcn-ee , you really need some high appreciation...man you are amazing...answering everybody with that speed...seems like you have some core processor running inside your lucky brains...
Dec 29 19:46:31 <rcn-ee> cityLights, 3.8.x was a staging ground for a lot of "ideas"... not all of it made it mainline..
Dec 29 19:46:39 <cityLights> which dtsi file has a pwm node example?
Dec 29 19:47:03 <cityLights> rcn-ee: do you have a paypal for donations?
Dec 29 19:47:40 <rcn-ee> as long as users keeping buying from my employeer. (digi-key) it all works out. ;)
Dec 29 19:48:01 <cityLights> o I already did that
Dec 29 19:49:42 <rcn-ee> cityLights, take a look at these: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm?id=refs/tags/v3.19-rc2 pwm-ti* and pwm.txt  That's all the device tree docs we have for pwm on mainline. .;)
Dec 29 19:54:14 <rcn-ee> cityLights, good example here: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-evm.dts?id=6993fd01ebf2985e0c67088b47559bc513f2840b
Dec 29 20:00:03 <knob> wow
Dec 29 20:00:04 <knob> nice
Dec 29 21:21:41 <ds2> hmmm
Dec 29 21:28:28 <ds2> For folks who got a nice BBB for Xmas, there is a new Learning BeagleBone book coming out soon.
Dec 29 21:28:55 <ds2> takes a non JS approach for folks who are tired of the JS stuff :D
Dec 29 21:45:17 <cityLights> thanks rcn-ee
Dec 29 22:51:23 <f2222> hello
Dec 30 00:53:31 <raff_i_el> Has anyone had success powering a BBB with D batteries? I find that new ones rated at 1.5V actually output about 1.7V, so three is almost enough (though the voltage would probably sag as they drain).
Dec 30 00:58:48 <agmlego> If you are going to do that, the best option is probably to have four or more in series and then a 5V regulator to feed the bone itself.
Dec 30 01:00:09 <raff_i_el> yeah, that makes sense. Thanks!
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