**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 30 03:00:00 2015 Jan 30 05:08:30 Hi , i need help , i have this capes http://cdn.logicsupply.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/bd5fa33d207734c88c51f8ebb17de6c4/b/b/bbb-exp-c-chipsee-7inch-touchscreen.jpg, and i want run a qt application , but the touchscreen doesn't work , because need set variable qws_mouse_proto, , can anyone help me? Jan 30 05:08:36 hi guys how does the kernel decide which mach-- file to use.Is it something we define in menuconfig? Jan 30 05:27:52 hello folks..anyone used xenomai RTOS with MQTT or ZeroMQ on a BBB? Jan 30 06:41:06 timsta: I'm using MQTT and don't see any reason for RT patches Jan 30 06:51:33 how can i run bonescript on my beagle board without cloud9 Jan 30 06:52:02 i tried to install nodejs but fail to install bonescript using same Jan 30 07:26:29 sup doods Jan 30 10:04:56 Hi, Jan 30 10:05:29 does someone know how the EEPROM on capes is being read? Via I2C or SPI? Jan 30 10:05:35 i2c Jan 30 10:05:47 with which address? Jan 30 10:06:16 its in the SRM Jan 30 10:06:26 you mean in the BBB_SRM? Jan 30 10:06:30 no idea, schematics should tell you. AFAIK its just an ordinary 24Cwhatever eeprom Jan 30 10:06:44 maybe 0x50-0x57 Jan 30 11:10:02 hello from italy Jan 30 11:10:34 could someone help me with "configure" options? Jan 30 11:10:49 configure for what? Jan 30 11:11:19 I'm trying to cross-compile the wxWidgets for the BBB with debiam, from a Windows7 machine Jan 30 11:11:47 i'm stuck in the --host --target --build options, at the oment Jan 30 11:11:52 *moment* Jan 30 11:12:31 * tbr slowly backs away Jan 30 11:13:17 configure is a linux stuff, no reasont to backs away (if the problem is me being a dirty win user) Jan 30 11:14:01 it's like the most convoluted and error prone way possible to approach this Jan 30 11:14:56 apt-get install libwxwhatever or howsit called (easiest way) Jan 30 11:15:09 or compile on the debian (second easiest way) Jan 30 11:15:23 or set up a linux vm to cross compile (third easiest way) Jan 30 11:16:00 properly crosscompiling a debian package on a windows host is probably the most error prone, hardest and useless way to do it. Jan 30 11:16:14 not sure what you mean, tbr. I'm already cross-compiling terminal apps, i think i may be able to build GUI apps too. Jan 30 11:16:47 Parduz: right, good luck with that. Your problem will be that nobody in here does that, so nobody will answer your questions. Jan 30 11:16:55 letoThe2nd, i see. Still, i'd like to try, if you could help me with that options Jan 30 11:17:20 i just don't know what to pass. Jan 30 11:17:38 Parduz: sorry, i do not feel like wasting my time with tasks that i do not deem worth it Jan 30 11:18:14 Thanks for the non-help, then Jan 30 11:18:15 read that as: i am no windows user and will not read up on the strange ways to use it because i'm just not interested Jan 30 11:19:22 Leto: i'm asking help about a linus stuff. You have the right to judge that i'm wasting my time (or yours), but basically i'm asking for help about linux stuffs, whatever are my purposes Jan 30 11:21:08 Parduz: i'm not keeping you from anything. go ahead. if you figure it out and maybe even document it for the rest of the world, probably a lot of windows users will be thankful. its just something that i won#t do with my time. Jan 30 11:21:46 feel free to read my posts again, i always said that i won't waste *my* time, i never talked about yours. Jan 30 11:23:23 and crosscompiling a standard binary might even still be easy, but when you'Re talking about wxwidgets, you're talking about the proper use of a library. that means sysroots, the same libraries, all the fun shebang. Jan 30 11:24:15 and i just won't deal with it for windows. Jan 30 11:24:28 * LetoThe2nd thinks its a good moment now to grab lunch Jan 30 12:27:08 What is the purpose of PWR_BUT? I couldn't find anything about it (except its voltage level) in the SRM... Jan 30 12:32:05 hi need a linux phone os developer Jan 30 12:32:08 wasn't that wired into the PMIC? I'm unsure, either it's unused or it might produce a power button key event Jan 30 12:32:30 niles: for what? Jan 30 12:32:32 yes, it was wired into the PMIC, but I don't understand the purpose... Jan 30 12:32:57 -was +is Jan 30 12:33:16 hello Tbr - I need to show case a fully operational linux phone to my clients Jan 30 12:33:19 anates: you might need to as jkridner or someone on the mailign list might know. Jan 30 12:33:42 niles: rrrright... Jan 30 12:34:08 tbr - if the client likes the product I am in business Jan 30 12:34:28 niles: sure, your problem is that you don't have a product though. Jan 30 12:34:57 tbr - so my requirement is I need a a single point of contact - who would run the show Jan 30 12:36:01 you not only need that, you need double digit VC funding and hire a team of 50+ people Jan 30 12:36:37 tbr - so I need some one who can handle the show . Jan 30 12:37:06 niles: you're to pay for the development upfront? Jan 30 12:37:18 niles: your problem is that if someone is capable to run the show they either already do themselves or they know there is no benefit in entering the market. Jan 30 12:37:25 niles: if not, what would a phone developer need you for? Jan 30 12:37:55 tbr - the problem is whom to trust and to what extent :) Jan 30 12:38:52 niles: long story short. "do you have enough venture capital that you are willing to spend right now so that somebody will create your product?" Jan 30 12:38:59 niles: show your client any Android phone Jan 30 12:39:02 they all run Linux Jan 30 12:39:08 niles: if not, everything is moot. Jan 30 12:39:20 or Nexus5 -> Ubuntu Jan 30 12:39:30 or I can sell you my Neo9731 Jan 30 12:39:32 ynezz: stock nexus runs linux Jan 30 12:39:42 dmesg proves me right Jan 30 12:39:59 but with ugly Android UI Jan 30 12:40:04 hi guys id like your opinion on this : hey take a look at this post; id like your opinion : http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/103336-dtsi-compiling-vanilla-linux-on-samsung-gt-s7580/ Jan 30 12:40:04 ubuntu > * Jan 30 12:40:06 niles: yeah, you can also contact canonical. they say they have a linux phone. for enough $$$ they will certainly rebrand it for you. Jan 30 12:40:14 niles: or mozilla foundation. Jan 30 12:40:16 uhhimhere: is that beagle related? Jan 30 12:40:26 @av500 - the concept is simple - they want a phone which is open to the user -- do what u wants types -- freedom and hassle free Jan 30 12:40:27 @uhhimhere: I think you are in the wrong chat... Jan 30 12:40:36 av500: more like bogus related Jan 30 12:40:38 oh sorry i just noticed talk about android Jan 30 12:40:46 niles: nokia has n900 Jan 30 12:40:49 niles: used to have Jan 30 12:40:51 had Jan 30 12:41:04 niles: and there is new samsung linux stuff Jan 30 12:41:08 i used to have one; pissed me off that i was stuck with a crappy browser Jan 30 12:41:10 lolzen Jan 30 12:41:21 lettothe2d - yep talk are on the canonical too Jan 30 12:41:29 uhhimhere: there was chrome for n900 Jan 30 12:41:33 LetoThe2nd: firefoxOS is handled by Mozilla Corporation, not the foundation IIRC. So basically Netscape2 Corp. Jan 30 12:41:38 uhhimhere: and it worked quite well Jan 30 12:41:39 html5 write once, lagging everywhere Jan 30 12:41:40 niles: so what would anybody need you for? Jan 30 12:41:44 tbr: ah thanks Jan 30 12:41:46 uhhimhere: used the wrong browser? Jan 30 12:41:55 niles: understood Jan 30 12:42:14 Humpelst1lzchen: yeah but even then it was a really old version Jan 30 12:42:18 besides a kernel and a blinking shell cursor, what should it run? Jan 30 12:42:27 letotthe2nd - i have a vision , the client and after it clicks we have the money and still control the vision :) Jan 30 12:43:07 would have been nice to have midori running on it though Jan 30 12:43:09 niles: a famous german saying is "if you're having visions, you should go see a psychologist" Jan 30 12:43:19 niles: so, getting a phone hardware is easy Jan 30 12:43:35 niles: and ubuntu and FF OS both show they can run on ex-Android phones Jan 30 12:43:41 now, what would you run on it? Jan 30 12:43:41 niles: still you're not answering. what would anybody need you for? do you have hardware? do you have developers? do you have money to invest? Jan 30 12:43:53 niles: visions i can have the dozen a dime here. Jan 30 12:43:59 everybody needs a waterboy Jan 30 12:44:17 visions are easy, just obtain a box of shroomz Jan 30 12:44:27 letothe2nd - :) - well thanks for your time ... tc Jan 30 12:44:47 niles: np, just being honest. Jan 30 12:44:51 well the neo900 guys are working on a new phone Jan 30 12:44:53 new-ish Jan 30 12:45:02 well new board Jan 30 12:45:04 LetoThe2nd : +1 Jan 30 12:45:09 no they are working on an old phone Jan 30 12:45:20 openmoko Jan 30 12:45:28 with a new SoC Jan 30 12:45:33 tbr: basicly everything new but display and case :) Jan 30 12:45:34 they had the chance to work on something new but preferred to stay with the OMAP3 Jan 30 12:45:48 basically - I need someone to control the show , the hardware , the software and the support. Jan 30 12:46:11 tbr, yeah I would have seconded something with a vivante Jan 30 12:46:12 Humpelst1lzchen: they want to stay with the Oompa3 because "binary compatibility". too bad it's also immediate obsolescence Jan 30 12:46:17 need a proper project cost , a model phone and apprx estimation for the same Jan 30 12:46:48 tbr: its needed for maemo. Jan 30 12:47:02 most of the open source linux phones/devices end up very expensive Jan 30 12:47:07 that linux console Jan 30 12:47:07 you need about 30+ M USD, a team of 50+ people (kick ass, or ten times the money and people if average) and an ODM Jan 30 12:47:10 niles: again, what does your phone run? Jan 30 12:47:10 what's the name of it Jan 30 12:47:14 X11 and openoffice? Jan 30 12:47:26 Humpelst1lzchen: yes "binary compatibility", I said that already Jan 30 12:47:41 pandora Jan 30 12:47:50 I doubt moz stuck 30M into their phones Jan 30 12:47:53 pandora isnt a phone Jan 30 12:48:04 but it's a similiar hardware Jan 30 12:48:08 its doesnt have any baseband stuff Jan 30 12:48:09 av500: you might be surprised Jan 30 12:48:10 just without the radio Jan 30 12:48:17 yeah thats a big part of a phone Jan 30 12:48:21 but i'm just giving you an idea on how much it's going to cost Jan 30 12:48:24 @av500 - do you have the expertise to run the show then I can let you know what are the milestones Jan 30 12:48:27 think pandora + radio Jan 30 12:48:44 if you dont want that then help me out with http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/103336-dtsi-compiling-vanilla-linux-on-samsung-gt-s7580/ Jan 30 12:48:49 niles: I work for a company that makes smart phones Jan 30 12:49:54 pandora used to sell for something close to 1k eur Jan 30 12:49:57 @av500 - so tell me what will can you run the show Jan 30 12:50:02 jacekowski: baseband is a big part development wise i think you need a bunch of licenses Jan 30 12:50:03 for hardware that was obsolete when it was released Jan 30 12:50:15 uhhimhere: not exactly Jan 30 12:50:22 uhhimhere: it's typically just buy and forget type thing Jan 30 12:50:35 @av500 - can`t disclose much right now Jan 30 12:50:36 nah all the driver development for RF Jan 30 12:50:39 niles: I can offer to read your PDF Jan 30 12:50:50 uhhimhere: you get that all with your baseband Jan 30 12:51:25 yas in, you buy it and they will give you ready to use binary driver Jan 30 12:51:28 since I have no idea what your show is, I cannot run it for now Jan 30 12:52:00 if i were you i would buy existing android phone and get normal linux to run on it Jan 30 12:52:02 well then its not much of an open pandora if everythings closed Jan 30 12:52:04 probably a nexus device Jan 30 12:52:31 jacekowski, that is an existing android phone. Jan 30 12:53:18 @av500 - unfortunately can`t disclose much as I am bounded by certain contracts Jan 30 12:53:28 so? Jan 30 12:53:36 yeah, and you can hack it fairly easily to run linux Jan 30 12:53:36 why are you even asking here then? Jan 30 12:54:09 @av500 - all that is required is i need a SPOC ( single point of contact ) he/she should have the expertise to run the show on the software / hardware front Jan 30 12:54:35 "i have a vision and contracts, but no money, no product, no software, no developers and about nothing else too. will you please work for free and do my 'show'" Jan 30 12:54:48 did i word it correctly? Jan 30 12:54:51 :') Jan 30 12:54:52 niles: again, I can offer to read your PDF at my usual contraction rates Jan 30 12:55:02 lol Jan 30 12:55:07 contracting Jan 30 12:55:19 @av500 - cos i need a fresher , not big shots required and i need a clean slate no fixed idea boxes ... don`t under estimate a public chat u have no idea what works out here :) Jan 30 12:55:28 a what? Jan 30 12:55:48 ah ok, so we even have no idea what works and what not. Jan 30 12:55:53 popcorn, anybody? Jan 30 12:55:57 me Jan 30 12:56:06 karki__: how many metric tons? Jan 30 12:56:18 and all of this is beagle related? Jan 30 12:56:23 as long as niles lasts :') Jan 30 12:56:26 uhhimhere: its ... complicated Jan 30 12:58:10 LetoThe2nd : I have no cash to pay you, have no clue if I want pop corn, no idea how much I want. But somehow can you deliver it to me? :D Jan 30 12:58:47 hey if you guys help me out with my stupid quest ill send a coupon to you or something Jan 30 12:59:10 ok guys thanks for your time .... may be just not my day ......and yes for all those who were asking about the money and especially lettothe2nd -- i have the $$$$$$....so next time guys understand nobody works for free and nobody should ....:) Jan 30 12:59:12 tc guys Jan 30 12:59:28 niles: I can still read your PDF Jan 30 12:59:32 if you want Jan 30 12:59:45 feel free to PM it to me Jan 30 12:59:55 here's a nice pdf :http://www.broadcom.com/docs/support/videocore/VideoCoreIV-AG100-R.pdf Jan 30 13:00:03 +1 Jan 30 13:00:47 dual core GPU with quad core/slice(up to 16 "slices") GPU-coprocessor Jan 30 13:02:21 niles: if you have the $$$$$$, contact canonical, mozilla, av500, tbr, or any ODM you desire. you don'T need us then :) go ahead :) Jan 30 13:02:43 (and make sure its LOTS of $$$$$$) Jan 30 13:02:45 heh, why am I only third in the list? Jan 30 13:03:16 av500: you should have been 500th according to your nick, but i was to lazy to look up 497 chinese odms Jan 30 13:04:57 good riddancer Jan 30 13:04:58 good riddance Jan 30 13:05:35 hehehe Jan 30 13:06:01 I liked av1 for sometime there :D Jan 30 13:12:47 how much would i have to pay someone to help me out? Jan 30 13:14:17 I can read your PDF :) Jan 30 13:14:33 which pdf Jan 30 13:14:42 ball is in your court :) Jan 30 13:14:45 so does that mean youd help out for free Jan 30 13:14:55 I know too little about DTS Jan 30 13:15:03 oh :( Jan 30 13:21:40 ok, there's someone (other than LetoThe2ns :) ) that can explain me the --host, --target and --build options of "configure"? I can't find any help on the web Jan 30 13:22:11 http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/html_node/Cross_002dCompilation.html Jan 30 13:22:18 https://www.google.com/search?q=autotools+host+target+build Jan 30 13:22:30 https://autotools.io/autoconf/canonical.html Jan 30 13:22:51 there is even a book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BC2HTHM/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00BC2HTHM&linkCode=as2&tag=flamswebl-20&linkId=XZ7UZ65D74G4VPPN Jan 30 13:23:22 thanks, i'm reading the links Jan 30 13:24:28 ok, so seems that the --host is what i need to specify, at least. Jan 30 13:24:44 what's the "parameter" for BBB with Debian? Jan 30 13:26:56 av500, niles still does not beat the guy who thought the IRC was a customer service center for the BBB :') Jan 30 13:27:38 and he wrote a formal complaint to jkridner saying that the customer service was not upto par :D Jan 30 13:27:53 well, in a way I can understand that guy more Jan 30 14:00:35 hi! anyone with a bit of experience with dtbs? I'm trying to custom the am335x-boneblack.dts however i get an unexpected error when compiling it: "label or path, 'ocp', not found". "ocp" is defined in am33xx.dtsi which is included Jan 30 14:02:05 has someone bumped into something similar? any ideas on how i can debug this? Jan 30 14:54:55 moo Jan 30 14:55:22 is it "legal" to base a commercial product on the beagle bone black ? or it's only for development - thank you Jan 30 14:57:30 AFAIK, it's legal Jan 30 14:58:07 you can build and sell a product that has the B bone in it :) Jan 30 15:00:43 it's an open design Jan 30 15:01:21 mostly it's a matter of clearing fcc or whatever other regulations you might need to satisfy Jan 30 15:02:42 we had bitch of a time with fccc compliance with the stuff based on beagle board classic designs Jan 30 15:03:57 not sure if the bbb is better in that regard, the bbb is subject to less restriction as it is not technically an end user product Jan 30 15:06:08 there's also some trademark stuff like you cannot say it's a bbb Jan 30 15:06:26 ok! Jan 30 15:06:29 great Jan 30 15:07:59 Keep in mind though that if you use the module as a whole in your design, you are tied to CircuitCo's producstion schedule and sales volume. Jan 30 15:08:21 It may be better for your application to use the design files and make your own product. Jan 30 15:08:42 more likely than not Jan 30 15:09:11 especially if you're on a schedule, it's hard to get more than one at a time through most channels Jan 30 15:09:25 or at least it was for a while Jan 30 15:09:33 yeah I found another supplier Jan 30 15:09:37 http://www.logicsupply.com/bb-black-c/ Jan 30 15:09:46 a little bit more expensive, but you can order a lot at a time Jan 30 15:10:59 Interesting. I thought the Element14 version was pulled completely off the market. Jan 30 15:11:16 And that the Element14 version was not allowed to be called a BealgeBone Black by name. Jan 30 15:12:15 I think they licensed the name Jan 30 15:12:25 Ah. Jan 30 15:16:14 the element14 boards disappeared for a while, but I'm not sure of the details Jan 30 15:16:28 Yeah, me netiher. Jan 30 15:16:37 probably just ran out of supply Jan 30 15:16:56 Could be. But usually that does not mean the entire product page disappears from the Internet. Jan 30 15:17:31 depends how much backorders they were having to fill :P Jan 30 15:17:37 Maybe. Jan 30 15:17:43 It was just strange is all. Jan 30 15:18:01 it's just conjecture, as I said I don't know the details Jan 30 15:18:08 Yeah, agreed. Jan 30 15:30:01 Man, this is a mess. Jan 30 15:30:29 I'm trying to get something to run on my BBB running wheezy. Jan 30 15:30:48 I need it to be compiled as float-abi=soft, however Jan 30 15:31:06 so if I natively compile on wheezy, it uses armhf, which is float-abi=hard Jan 30 15:31:31 if I try to install gcc:armel on wheezy, it almost works, however, gcc:armel was built to not use thumb, which I also need Jan 30 15:32:00 so I try to cross compile, but this is a weird thing, and the makefiles already have a sysroot built into them, that they need Jan 30 15:32:07 so I can't point it at *my* sysroot Jan 30 15:32:38 oh, and the gcc on wheezy by default appears to ignore -mfloat-abi=soft Jan 30 15:32:47 why does it need to be soft float? Jan 30 15:33:04 it's a loader that loads a binary without source that is softfloat Jan 30 15:33:05 you can't specify multiple library paths? Jan 30 15:33:25 gm all Jan 30 15:33:37 gm _av500_ Jan 30 15:33:39 sorry I'm late Jan 30 15:33:44 thurgood_: I tried, but I got different errors during the ./configure. I used to cross compile without sysroot all the time, but it appears I ahve lost my touch Jan 30 15:34:00 I'll get my configure line and error from that test, one moment Jan 30 15:34:14 :( Jan 30 15:34:40 jkridner: hi! Jan 30 15:34:48 howdy agmlego|skynet Jan 30 15:35:18 hi jkridner Jan 30 15:35:50 hi adamwwolf_! Jan 30 15:36:06 for those interested, we are having a GSoC chat some time in #beagle-gsoc Jan 30 15:36:30 adamwwolf_: why do you need softfloat on wheezy?!? Jan 30 15:37:34 jkridner: do you remember about a year ago when someone decompiled Starcraft and Brood War to C, then recompiled for gnueabi, and then got wine working enough so it played on openpandora? Jan 30 15:37:35 agmlego|skynet: about a year ago, we licensed them the name "BeagleBone Black", but they have to say "Element14 BeagleBone Black", not "BeagleBoard.org BeagleBone Black" Jan 30 15:37:57 agmlego|skynet: we've talked about changing that, but want to avoid any confusion on the manufacturer. Jan 30 15:38:13 adamwwolf_: I don't, but that's super cool! Jan 30 15:38:19 jkridner: it's an amazing hack Jan 30 15:38:25 4 months of work by a really sharp dude Jan 30 15:38:47 * jkridner wishes openpandora would have taken over the world Jan 30 15:39:10 jkridner: I am about 4 days into getting SC and BW to work on the BBB Jan 30 15:39:12 (to the likes of the demoscene people) Jan 30 15:39:20 adamwwolf_: sweet! Jan 30 15:39:27 but this is the weird sticking point right now Jan 30 15:39:45 if I compile wine on the BBB, I can easily compile it as hardfloat Jan 30 15:39:59 it appears that GCC on wheezy won't let me do mfloat-abi=soft Jan 30 15:40:17 (also, starcraft and broodwar don't even really do floating point, this is just an ABI thing) Jan 30 15:40:32 so I tried to cross compile wine, which is just crazy btw Jan 30 15:40:54 you have to compile it once natively, leave your build artifacts around, and point the cross compiling ./configure at your native artifacts Jan 30 15:41:22 adamwwolf_: but, if you are recompiling, why can't you leave the armhf thing? what is already compiled that you are linking against? Jan 30 15:41:47 so I installed all the libraries and headers on my BBB, made a copy of the rootfs, used it as a sysroot, and got through ./configure just fine for wine on my PC Jan 30 15:41:47 then once I started make, it complained it coudln't find any libraries that it found no problem during the ./configure Jan 30 15:42:21 notaz, the guy who decompiled/recompiled starcraft for arm, links it against libwine.so Jan 30 15:42:31 oh, this is hte other half of hte story I forgot Jan 30 15:42:43 so he provides a compiled wine that *would* work fine, except he uses omapfp Jan 30 15:42:45 omapfb Jan 30 15:42:50 ah, so if you could get a rebuild of libwine.so, you wouldn't have to change the ABI? Jan 30 15:43:00 so I was really bummed and almost dropped the project Jan 30 15:43:02 k. why not try running it on Angstrom? Jan 30 15:43:05 however, I looked at what he used omapfb for Jan 30 15:43:11 he just used omapfb for changing the screen resolution! Jan 30 15:43:53 so I'm attacking this on a few fronts. he volunteered to try to build the starcraft executable with armhf Jan 30 15:44:11 that would mean I just compile wine for armhf, which I have already done, and it should load fine Jan 30 15:46:15 and it might be the only real reasonable option, however, it isn't something *I* can do, because only he has that source Jan 30 15:46:59 it appears that any time I ask for a softfloat-producing gcc on wheezy people start to gag and slowly walk backwards with a forced smile :) Jan 30 15:47:55 so let me back up a bit--before sysroot, we just cross compiled with a bunch of -I and -Ls, right? Jan 30 15:51:05 too many books not to have some people read them! Jan 30 15:51:44 adamwwolf_: that was my reaction. :-) Jan 30 15:52:21 * agmlego|skynet still does not understand the value of printed media for this kind of thing. Jan 30 15:52:50 jkridner: I once did a contract job where we ported some OS2 code to Android for a medical device manufacturer, and it took me multiple days of convincing before I thought there might even be merit to what they were doing :) Jan 30 15:53:07 adamwwolf_: I've been depending on build systems like Buildroot, Gentoo and Yocto/Angstrom for most of my cross-compiling beyond a simple single-C-file app. Jan 30 15:53:19 yeah, that's the rub Jan 30 15:53:28 I think 5 years ago I was better suited to solve this problem Jan 30 15:53:54 when I'm cross compiling, I'm either in yocto or ndk-build these days Jan 30 15:55:09 adamwwolf_: having a dead tree to thumb through can be handy when trying to just build up some general knowledge Jan 30 15:55:23 er, agmlego|skynet: ^^^ Jan 30 15:57:00 harrumph. Jan 30 15:57:54 when i try to take the --sysroot out of the cross compile on my ubuntu box, I get errors where arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc cannot find /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libc.so.6, which I believe is due ot the leading slash. Jan 30 15:58:05 gunna take a break from this project today, maybe notaz will recompile it for hardfloat for me :) Jan 30 15:58:56 jkridner: I guess. Jan 30 16:00:47 How could I know why gcc hangs when called by configure when --host=arm-linux-gnueabihf? tried with CFLAGS=-v but it doesn't produce any output Jan 30 16:01:01 Hi agmlego Jan 30 16:02:09 Parduz: Hello. Jan 30 16:09:59 Parduz: does it give any sort of log? Jan 30 16:17:37 usually gcc will spew lots of output .. do you have -W (anything) set? Jan 30 16:17:58 or -q or something? Jan 30 16:21:36 i have the log from configure, but it does'nt include any ourput from the gcc. Jan 30 16:23:20 when configure launch gcc for testing, gcc hangs (with Windows telling that it ceased to work) then configure exit saying that the compiler cannot create executables Jan 30 16:23:48 "This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way." Jan 30 16:25:15 this is my command: Jan 30 16:25:17 $ ../configure -prefix=/c/SysGCC/wxWidgets/arm-wx -disable-shared -enable-debug CC=/c/SysGCC/BeagleDebian/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc --host=arm-linux-gnueabihf Jan 30 16:38:48 the clue is in the last statement .. because you are compiling for arm .. you won't be able to run the executable in windows Jan 30 16:39:11 you need to find the option which forbids it from 'testing' the output from gcc I think :) Jan 30 16:39:48 then the test-gcc will succeed, which will feed back to the configure phase. Jan 30 16:40:53 if that is indeed what's going wrong. Jan 30 16:56:57 sorry guys, connection gone down Jan 30 16:57:38 would you like to re-write the replies to my last msgs? Jan 30 17:20:49 yates, got it... make sure "CONFIG_USB_ETH_EEM" is disabled: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L92 Jan 30 17:34:42 I am using the BB-BONE-PRU-01 which uses p9_27 -- the code TODO:\n QBBS TODO, r31, 5 does not loop infinitely as I expect, whether p9_27 is attached to 3.3v or gnd Jan 30 19:03:22 hey, can someone help me troubleshoot a PRU/GPIO issue? Jan 30 19:05:51 Hey, is qemu faster than BBB for compiling? Jan 30 19:06:07 dep Jan 30 19:06:10 ambro718: Is a chicken faster than a pickle? Jan 30 19:06:19 depends on your cpu but probably not Jan 30 19:07:04 I use my tiny arm quad to compile big projects for the BBB Jan 30 19:07:49 though with emulation I could parallelize it considerably Jan 30 19:08:13 have multiple VMs building different packages Jan 30 19:08:35 except, qemu doesn't parallelize very well.. so you need one qemu instance pre core. ;) Jan 30 19:09:20 yes that's what I meant. I'm trying to get NixOS running on BBB and Nix supports this pretty well. Jan 30 19:09:32 distributed builds that is Jan 30 19:10:24 start with qemu now, but either pick up a wand-quad + sata or any quad core/sata arm configuration.. then switch over when it arrives. ;) it's just faster... Jan 30 19:11:15 Another question, is it possible to interact with the bootloader at boot time via serial port and specify what to boot (kernel,initrd)? Jan 30 19:11:29 Further is it possible to make a boot menu? Jan 30 19:12:03 Hi , i need help , i have this capes http://cdn.logicsupply.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/bd5fa33d207734c88c51f8ebb17de6c4/b/b/bbb-exp-c-chipsee-7inch-touchscreen.jpg, and i want run a qt application , but the touchscreen doesn't work , because need set variable qws_mouse_proto, , can anyone help me? Jan 30 19:12:18 some of that is possible now... later bb.org images, use a variable in uEnv.txt (uname_r=) to specify which kernel.. Jan 30 19:12:46 but we dont' have a "u-boot-grub" bootsplash yet.. Jan 30 19:13:57 rcn-ee: when you say specify which kernel, you mean one can predefine boot targets (not just kernel also initrd and parameters)? Jan 30 19:14:44 ambro718, http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:U-boot_partitioning_layout_2.0#uEnv.txt_Rootfs_Partition_.2Fboot.2FuEnv.txt Jan 30 19:15:21 ocamlman: what issue are you seeing? Jan 30 19:15:29 I am using the BB-BONE-PRU-01 which uses p9_27 -- the code TODO:\n QBBS TODO, r31, 5 does not loop infinitely as I expect, whether p9_27 is attached to 3.3v or gnd Jan 30 19:16:00 smurray, perhaps "uses" is better said "claims exclusive use of in the DTO" Jan 30 19:17:36 ocamlman: just a min, will have to poke around to refresh my memory Jan 30 19:17:47 rcn-ee: where do I define the boot configurations? Jan 30 19:17:52 smurray, thanks! lemme know if i can provide any more information too Jan 30 19:18:36 anyone have this cape ? http://cdn.logicsupply.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/bd5fa33d207734c88c51f8ebb17de6c4/b/b/bbb-exp-c-chipsee-7inch-touchscreen.jpg ?? Jan 30 19:19:35 calculus: hey, I'll be at SCaLE finally! Jan 30 19:19:59 luciano_: I've seen it. heard it works pretty well. Saw it at Maker Shed Jan 30 19:21:09 jkridner, i have problem with angstrom and qt Jan 30 19:22:25 jkridner, the variable qws_mouse_proto, don't work, you work with qt? Jan 30 19:23:50 I took a look at the uEnv for ArchLinux and I'm confused, where is the kernel? Jan 30 19:24:07 There is no kernel. Jan 30 19:24:12 The kernel is a myth. Jan 30 19:24:19 Long live the kernel.' Jan 30 19:24:42 I copied 3 files to the boot partition, MLO u-boot.imd uEnv.txt Jan 30 19:25:28 ocamlman: have you changed BB-BONE-PRU-01-00A0.dts? the pin is configured as output in the version I'm looking at Jan 30 19:26:12 smurray, ah, I have not. That would be an easy fix Jan 30 19:27:31 luciano_: not really, I've been all Debian for a while. Been helping a couple of people with Qt issues there, but nothing very complex. Jan 30 19:31:31 smurray, I don't see a pre-made dts for p9-27 as an input - do you know of such a thing? Jan 30 19:32:28 no, but it shouldn't be too bad to edit it and recompile it with dtc Jan 30 19:33:30 you want to change the line in the pinctrl part from "0x1a4 0x25" to "0x1a4 0x26", I think Jan 30 19:34:20 it might be "0x1a4 0x06", I'm at work and don't have access to all the docs atm Jan 30 19:39:48 smurray, i'll give it a shot. thanks a bunch! Jan 30 19:40:29 np Jan 30 21:17:46 hmmm Jan 31 00:14:30 Ethernet will not reconnect unless reboot **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 31 02:59:58 2015