**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 13 02:59:59 2015 Mar 13 03:58:08 close Mar 13 04:07:40 KotH, hi Mar 13 08:06:27 Hello Mar 13 09:34:30 hi dudes, i am trying to keep connected the BBB to pc by the miniusb and at the same time I have a serial connection trougth the pin connector, but i can´t have both at the same time. It is posible? Mar 13 09:35:25 what is the problem with having both? Mar 13 09:36:50 the connection trougth pins is losed Mar 13 09:36:55 lost* Mar 13 09:36:58 why should not both work? Mar 13 09:37:03 disable the getty Mar 13 09:37:08 for usb Mar 13 09:37:33 connecting to different PCs? Mar 13 09:37:54 if so, then you have probably different ground levels on both PCs Mar 13 09:38:16 koth ? Mar 13 09:38:39 woglinde: potentialunterschiede -> ausgleichströme Mar 13 09:38:46 one is connected to pc, another to electronic devide (arduino) using ttyO4, but i dont know wich one is used for the connection to pc Mar 13 09:39:58 proably ttyO1 Mar 13 09:40:39 and how can disable it programmatically? Mar 13 09:41:26 disable what? Mar 13 09:41:35 you have diffrent levels Mar 13 09:42:02 first bootloader on serial, second kernelmsg on serial console, third login(getty) on serial console Mar 13 09:43:02 well, let me explain a bit better the situation Mar 13 09:43:18 we have the BBB connected to an aduino, which controls a mechanical device Mar 13 09:43:36 The arduino asks the BBB to perform some analysis by serial comunicatio Mar 13 09:43:49 sure Mar 13 09:44:03 but we need the BBB to be connected to a PC all the time, since once finished the analysis, we want to send the results to the PC Mar 13 09:44:21 the problem is that if both comunications are working, the comunication get lost Mar 13 09:45:02 we thought on maybe disable the PC comunication when the serial is on use, and then enable it again when we need to send the results Mar 13 09:45:11 but we couldnt find the command to do that either Mar 13 09:45:27 maybe you know better know the problem? Mar 13 09:45:39 oh okay Mar 13 09:45:45 by the way, i just checked,and both grounds (arduino and USB) are connected Mar 13 09:45:53 why not use tcp/ip to communicate btw PC and bone Mar 13 09:46:04 much more reliable Mar 13 09:46:43 i didnt think on that to be honest Mar 13 09:47:03 thats why you are here Mar 13 09:47:09 :) Mar 13 09:47:10 to get some new input Mar 13 09:47:47 i will check on tcp/ip, but no easy way to enable and disable the USB connection then? Mar 13 09:47:51 HeXtor but it sounds like kernel bug when you communicate with two serial connections at the same time and something crashes Mar 13 09:47:55 is there any easy command to do it? Mar 13 09:48:25 where is usb now comming into place hm Mar 13 09:48:39 I thought you are using the two serial hw ports Mar 13 09:48:50 musb is a large minefield Mar 13 09:48:59 it will not work reliable over some days Mar 13 09:49:00 no, arduino is connected by serial, PC is connected by USB Mar 13 09:50:03 will check the tcp/ip then Mar 13 09:50:10 thanks a lot woglinde Mar 13 09:50:34 no problem Mar 13 11:37:46 hi Mar 13 11:38:43 i want bulid kernal image for begale bone black Mar 13 14:11:20 Can I discuss GSoC ideas for Beagleboard here or is there a separate channel for that Mar 13 14:11:46 #beagle-gsoc Mar 13 14:11:47 and the mailing list Mar 13 15:56:32 hello everyone! I'm running beaglebone black revision B. I wrote a Debian image to an SD card and it successfully boots on the beaglebone. But, I forgot the password of the debian installation. Is there some way I can reset it? I tried booting up Angstrom hoping to chroot into the SD card but I could find the SD card in /dev. Mar 13 16:04:47 dnivra boot with sd-card mount the emmc and alter the passwd Mar 13 16:05:30 dnivra connect serial console interrupt u-boot change the kernel-cmdline to include init=/bin/sh Mar 13 16:05:48 delete root passwd from /etc/shadow and login without one Mar 13 16:06:19 nerdboy if you can not login Mar 13 16:06:46 boot card as above, mount emmc rootfs, ... Mar 13 16:08:10 * nerdboy has morning blurry morning eyes... Mar 13 16:08:22 moutn card on desktop, process as above... Mar 13 16:08:28 *proceed even Mar 13 16:23:17 nerdboy: thanks for the /etc/shadow tip :). it worked! Mar 13 16:23:54 woglinde: thanks for your tip too; will come in handy if I forget the Angstrom password :). Mar 13 16:27:58 -> 17:04 < woglinde> dnivra boot with sd-card mount the emmc and alter the passwd same advice as nerdboy Mar 13 16:29:22 yes, woglinde gets the cookie Mar 13 16:30:20 oh okay! I guess I misunderstood it completely then. Mar 13 19:50:37 Is sgx support for x11 available? Mar 13 19:51:03 I have sgx installed as directed here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#SGX_Drivers Mar 13 19:53:20 sgx modules have framebuffer driver but doesn't include Xorg driver for latest stuff afaik Mar 13 19:54:20 What does this do? ./ti-tilcdc.sh Mar 13 19:54:35 probably depends on kernel/runtime versions, but i haven't had much luck the xf86-video-omap stuff Mar 13 19:55:11 looks like framebuffer lcd stuff to me Mar 13 19:55:15 hi, I've flashed my beaglebone black with the latest debian flasher, 7.8 Mar 13 19:55:40 it's listed as xorg drivers on the same elinux page, but I don't know if it relates to sgx Mar 13 19:55:57 but somehow I cannot boot fedora 21 from sd without pressing user button Mar 13 19:56:00 got URI? Mar 13 19:56:39 what's the uboot version used in that flasher image? Mar 13 19:56:58 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Xorg_Drivers Mar 13 19:57:24 the boot line shows this string U-Boot SPL 2015.01-00001-gb2412df but u-boot sources are for version 2015.1, 2015-rc{1-4} Mar 13 19:57:29 mastiff: i don't usually play with the vendor stuff, so am not up to dat probably... Mar 13 19:57:53 rcn-ee has wiki page with mainline and sgx module install Mar 13 19:57:56 mastiff, it just set's up xorg to use fbdev... Mar 13 19:58:16 * nerdboy assumed as much Mar 13 19:58:28 mastiff, https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/tools/graphics/ti-tilcdc.sh Mar 13 19:59:45 Haran_Banjo, u-boot release was : "2015.01" Mar 13 19:59:53 ok, so that script sets up xorg to use fbdev during bootup? Mar 13 20:00:08 mastiff, correct Mar 13 20:00:42 and am I understanding correctly that currently there is no way to have sgx acceleration for programs running on x11 Mar 13 20:00:43 thanks rcn-ee Mar 13 20:00:46 mastiff, incorrect, it sets it up for "modesetting"... should probally change that back to fbdev, as people might compliain when it randomly locks up.. Mar 13 20:01:33 mastiff, "full screen" only... ES 2.0 applications... Mar 13 20:02:27 I'm trying to run a fairly large qt5 app, but it's sluggish. Mar 13 20:03:11 mastiff, qt5 brings something else to the table, since they also support eglfs... Mar 13 20:03:35 I wasn't sure if sgx was actually being used or not. I compiled qt5 natively after installing sgx on the BBB Mar 13 20:03:35 so as long as you use the qt5 eglfs backend (not x11) you will have egl/sgx acceleration.. Mar 13 20:04:21 I was running the program from lxde, so it sounds like no graphics accleration was happening. Mar 13 20:04:48 did you built qt witih "-opengl es2 -eglfs" ? Mar 13 20:05:08 built it with -opengl es2 Mar 13 20:05:20 didn't have the -egls option Mar 13 20:06:32 well build it with that and run your application with: -platform eglfs Mar 13 20:07:04 ok thanks, I'll try that. Mar 13 20:07:23 one more stupid question, is it sufficient to download build-essential from the flasher image or do I need a particular gcc version to compile uboot? Mar 13 20:08:21 so if it works will the program launch into full screen mode, rather than the normal window? Mar 13 20:09:10 Haran_Banjo, u-boot is built against many versions native/cross, doesn't really matter... Mar 13 20:10:38 mastiff, eglfs is a small windowing manager, it replaces xorg. Mar 13 20:28:00 rcn-ee, ok, you've got me pointed in the right direction now. I'll read up on eglfs and recompile qt. Mar 13 20:40:39 I just noticed in the qt5 .configure -help , that -eglfs is a default build option. So it looks like I just need to tell qmake to build the program with eglfs? Mar 13 21:33:42 so i just got a beaglebone black Mar 13 21:34:05 and i am on the bone101 page and looking for the gateone ssh client section but it is not on there Mar 13 21:34:34 am i doing something wrong Mar 13 21:36:52 Guest68040, gateone is long gone... fire up cloud9 ide and the bottom witll have a terminal... Mar 13 21:37:20 oh okay Mar 13 21:38:47 or just use any ssh client.. Mar 13 21:39:19 putty! Mar 13 21:41:03 openssh Mar 13 21:45:59 The TI support model is going to the dogs. Mar 13 21:46:20 Support is from the E2E forums. Mar 13 21:46:52 mrpackethead .. always has been .. completely useless Mar 13 21:46:58 it's e2e.... other non-ti's are suppost to answer the questions. ;) Mar 13 21:47:07 yeah. Mar 13 21:47:54 although .. unless you pay big $$ I've never seen any silicon supplier give true 'support' Mar 13 21:48:13 i'm about to order $80,000 of IC's. Mar 13 21:48:31 i woudl have thought they could have answered a resoanby simple question Mar 13 21:48:45 maybe they think, hes designed it in, so what can he do. Mar 13 21:48:59 having said, that TI is better than Broadcom. Mar 13 21:49:06 goodness they are the pits. Mar 13 21:49:07 barely Mar 13 21:49:23 You can get a data sheet from TI at least? Mar 13 21:49:24 I think eBen did fairlyl well with the Pi project .. he only sold a few million .. Mar 13 21:49:32 GenTooMan .. I guess there is that Mar 13 21:49:33 yeah. Mar 13 21:49:41 what do you need from them? Mar 13 21:49:50 i can get my datasheets now. Mar 13 21:49:56 I've signed 1700 pages of NDA's Mar 13 21:49:58 i decided to use PuTTY Mar 13 21:50:10 Also there is the fact that a broadcom exec is part of the Pi project as well. Mar 13 21:50:12 mrpackethead, is this that fun cc3000? Mar 13 21:50:23 cc3200 Mar 13 21:50:23 do i just put the the IP as the bone101 page or do I put my actual IP? Mar 13 21:50:48 oh those Mar 13 21:50:59 Guest68040, it depends on how good your pc os is... try: beaglebone.local first, then 192.168.7.2 then look at your router... Mar 13 21:50:59 ds2.. oh those. Mar 13 21:51:12 lol Mar 13 21:51:25 they are pretty useful Mar 13 21:51:31 yeah, it doe'snt run linux Mar 13 21:51:43 but there a lots of applications where you dont' need to run a full OS Mar 13 21:51:46 mrpackethead: for your next exercise, do the same thing with the Marvell equiv. parts Mar 13 21:51:49 ;) Mar 13 21:51:54 ds2... lol. Mar 13 21:52:12 we are designing an ethernet switch Mar 13 21:52:23 around a Broadcom RoboSwitch Fabric Mar 13 21:52:39 niiiice Mar 13 21:52:39 becuase the world needs another ethernet switch Mar 13 21:52:41 :) Mar 13 21:52:49 BroadCom is the big thing in ethernet switch fabrics at the moment. Mar 13 21:52:56 Oh yeah. Mar 13 21:53:02 okay so i have logged in as root but i've never even used linux before so what do i do now Mar 13 21:53:03 they are the big leader. Mar 13 21:53:18 Guest, this is a very special day in your life. Mar 13 21:53:27 you are about to loose your linux-virginity Mar 13 21:53:35 yes Mar 13 21:53:40 Mar 13 21:53:44 DSL (Damn Small Linux)? Mar 13 21:54:18 this is running debian, or so it says in the terminal Mar 13 21:54:34 correct Mar 13 21:55:03 but now i'm just staring at the terminal because i can't into this Mar 13 21:55:21 im gonna check the faq out Mar 13 21:56:35 oh man Mar 13 21:58:05 okay so i did sudo apt-get update but it couldnt be resolved so i guess i need an ethernet cord Mar 13 21:58:48 Theres quite a strong community ( well growing ) around an open switching NOS Mar 13 21:58:58 Open Network Linux is based on debian Mar 13 21:59:01 Guest68040, correct, that's the easy way.. there are ways to share your pc's network connection, but it vaires on os... Mar 13 21:59:12 found one! Mar 13 21:59:18 http://www.opennetlinux.org Mar 13 21:59:22 how can i share the connection? Mar 13 21:59:32 ill try that once i update it and stuff Mar 13 22:00:29 ok i might have to do it anyways Mar 13 22:00:47 so what do Mar 13 22:38:06 hey guys Mar 13 22:38:07 im back Mar 13 22:38:42 is there any way to get my beaglebone to get internet without ethernet because its not really an option at the moment Mar 13 22:43:45 cantintolinux: you can tether it to a computer over the USB OTG Mar 13 22:48:55 well it's tethered to the pc but when i try to update it, the beaglebone cannot resolve the page Mar 13 22:51:47 is that because i don't have internet access or is it something else Mar 13 23:00:11 cantintolinux: you need the right drivers on both ends, and then to bridge the interface Mar 13 23:00:16 I don't recall how to do it offhand Mar 13 23:05:38 dang i might look into it later tonight Mar 13 23:24:04 i see that the data-sheet of L293D is easy :) Mar 13 23:56:30 lol wtf... http://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/t/408308 Mar 14 00:07:42 alright im back Mar 14 00:08:01 so what drivers do i need to share my internet connectivity between my laptop and my beaglebone? Mar 14 00:12:06 cantintolinux: g_cdc or g_ether (I recommend the former) on the BeagleBone side Mar 14 00:13:15 on the laptop side, see the drivers here: http://beagleboard.org/getting-started#step2 Mar 14 00:14:09 what OS are you running on the laptop? Mar 14 00:15:36 i have windows 8 on this Mar 14 00:15:54 i installed those but my beaglebone still doesn't connect Mar 14 00:17:21 also, where can i find g_cdc? Mar 14 00:25:22 zmatt: i wonder if we post Ti questions to the ST forums, if we'll get support Mar 14 00:25:29 given that TI doesnt support TI on TI forums Mar 14 00:28:57 cantintolinux: just type sudo modprobe g_cdc on the command line Mar 14 00:29:00 it should be already installed Mar 14 00:30:46 ok i'll check Mar 14 00:32:41 root@beaglebone:~# sudo modprobe g_cdc ERROR: could not insert 'g_cdc': No such device Mar 14 00:32:54 i guess it isn't Mar 14 00:33:56 do i do sudo apt-get g_cdc Mar 14 00:35:28 nope Mar 14 00:42:02 mrpackethead: lol Mar 14 00:42:29 very quick response from TI on that topic though Mar 14 00:44:10 mrpackethead: that's a bit harsh, my impression is that ST's e2e forum isn't inhabited by ST staff *at all* Mar 14 00:44:42 is ti's inhabited by anyone from TI? Mar 14 00:45:23 maybe you need to be spending $10M a week for them to care Mar 14 00:45:33 euh, yeah, and a large percentage of topics get a reply (of varying usefulness) Mar 14 00:47:50 and some topics actually get replies from people with access to the processor's design, not just first-line helpdeskers Mar 14 00:49:49 its just an annoying way to run support Mar 14 00:52:20 as far as unpaid support for hordes of nobodies goes, it seems okay :P Mar 14 00:52:37 yeah, i guess. you get what you pay for Mar 14 00:52:53 sadly, they fail to help those people who woudl pay for good support Mar 14 00:53:34 the time we waste becuase we dont' know something that an expert in the topic could provide in 15 minutes ends up making paid support very cheap Mar 14 00:54:12 true Mar 14 00:54:42 dunno how that works with TI... I've even seen the E2E forum used for questions between TI employees themselves Mar 14 00:55:11 no such device...? That's odd Mar 14 00:55:21 :-) Mar 14 00:55:37 i met a guy who made a lot of money out of HP Mar 14 00:55:51 he bought surplus parts of one part of HP and sold them to another Mar 14 00:56:33 lol Mar 14 00:59:31 he was an ex hp employee Mar 14 00:59:38 lots = millions. Mar 14 01:00:32 some people apparently do manage to get stuff done by TI... http://e2e.ti.com/support/arm/sitara_arm/f/791/t/399099 Mar 14 01:02:59 zmatt: i've had a couple of really useful replys Mar 14 01:03:20 i must be fair Mar 14 01:05:44 the Sitara forum is in that regard much better than the DM814x forum where I've also spent a fair bit of time... it has *only* some first-line helpdeskers, who themselves often have to send multiple internal mails and wait weeks to get a reply out of someone with knowledge of the design Mar 14 01:07:26 (it's a good match with the ancient and unmaintained kernel tree and apparently unmaintained docs I guess :P ) Mar 14 01:08:37 at least i have some concrete to go and smash Mar 14 01:09:13 (at least the erratum I reported a year ago and which was confirmed still hasn't been integrated into the published errata, ditto for the couple of TRM errors I reported via the feedback forum) Mar 14 01:09:33 *form Mar 14 01:10:24 Im just wanting to know how to programm thousands of systems.. Mar 14 01:11:03 in bulk. Mar 14 01:11:17 pre-flash them prior to production? Mar 14 01:11:23 ideally Mar 14 01:11:47 and how to keep my code secure. Mar 14 01:11:58 on a GP device? you don't Mar 14 01:12:05 GP? Mar 14 01:12:21 general-purpose device, as opposed to the HS (high-security) devices Mar 14 01:12:25 ahh Mar 14 01:13:10 so, how do you protect your IP? Mar 14 01:13:12 you dont? Mar 14 01:13:13 e.g. the omaps you'll find in a smartphone will most likely be HS devices, the omap on a beagleboard is a GP device Mar 14 01:13:33 cast the thing in epoxy? might have some thermal issues :P Mar 14 01:13:49 the code is written to external flash Mar 14 01:13:51 :-( Mar 14 01:15:12 if you can secure the initial bootloading step, you can secure the rest of the boot with crypto Mar 14 01:15:42 but that still means somehow making sure the initial bootloader cannot be bypassed and its keying material cannot be accessed Mar 14 01:15:54 for which you'll still need the epoxy :P Mar 14 01:16:09 That'll keep me out, maybe. but not real hackers. Mar 14 01:16:20 well, epoxy is annoying Mar 14 01:16:29 finding a bug in your "secure" bootloader may be easier Mar 14 01:16:51 I meant the secure bootloader. It's not if, but when, it is cracked. Mar 14 01:17:16 mhhh, that's not necessarily true Mar 14 01:17:28 My understandins if the big dogs run with secure booloaders and lots of lawyers. Mar 14 01:17:58 the problem is that most software is crap, and with security one mistake is all that it takes Mar 14 01:18:19 Oh, absolutely. But physical access affords a great number of interesting attacks, too. Mar 14 01:18:23 especially when someone has local access to the device and can poke at it all it wants Mar 14 01:18:26 yes Mar 14 01:18:56 making the device self-destruct when it smells a rat would help against that, but is not really a viable option outside military applications Mar 14 01:19:41 Yup, rarely seen. Players like NATO just influence lawmakers to have really, really strict export laws. Mar 14 01:19:58 Well, not "just". But it is a cornerstone of keeping those secrets. Mar 14 01:20:04 though, a switch that disconnects the battery-backup RAM when you open the case, causing the authorization key to be lost, may be an option Mar 14 01:20:49 it'll still fail if the attacker has access to sufficient number of devices (or many people are interested in attacking the device) Mar 14 01:21:07 it depends very much also on whether you're a worthwhile target or not Mar 14 01:21:09 The problem with active devices like that is that maybe it could be used against you? If I couldn't steal your IP, maybe I'd make sure your shipments all hosed on arrival, everywhere. Mar 14 01:21:26 the best defense is being uninteresting Mar 14 01:21:39 Yes. The real decision is if you have something worth protecting, and for how long. Mar 14 01:22:50 Often you are protecting yourself from people who are oyur ideal customers, too. I'm thinking of gamers, and how they cracked the crypto on the Wii to create really great variations on super smash bros and similar games. Mar 14 01:23:22 That one was using a bug in one of the games to break the crypto, as you suggested upthread. Mar 14 01:23:49 I have some OS on the Wii that uses one of a handful of games to brute force the bootloader. Mar 14 01:23:52 game consoles are in a tough spot, since their products (unless totally flopped) *will* end up in the hands of lots of people with both knowledge and motivation to bypass their security Mar 14 01:24:22 Yup. And a half-life much shorter than even a phone. But with longer tails. Weird business. Mar 14 01:24:29 no thanks. Mar 14 01:24:39 I'll stick to being a code monkey. Mar 14 01:24:43 hehe Mar 14 01:25:00 I can understand TI fleeing the omap market Mar 14 01:25:12 They had their day in the sun. Mar 14 01:25:18 OMAP was everywhere. Mar 14 01:25:53 it's unfortuante that also seems to have vaporized support for some omap-derived processors like the DM814x (*after* we designed a board based on it, of course) Mar 14 01:25:56 The original Internet of Things before the full on internet. It was mostly "Things." But still. Mar 14 01:27:06 (the fact that the AM572x is branded Sitara also seems like a death-sentence to the DaVinci brand) Mar 14 01:27:17 Design has really flattened in some ways, and solidified in others. I'm seeing, for example, FPGA used everywhere now a trad MC or even MP would be used. If all you need is transistor gates... Mar 14 01:28:08 This is the second time this week I've seen Sitara mentioned. Mar 14 01:28:16 Not here, either. Mar 14 01:28:22 ? Mar 14 01:28:42 FPGA's certainly have a place Mar 14 01:28:51 but not i'm not sure if they will be *everywhere* yet. Mar 14 01:28:55 or ever. Mar 14 01:28:56 I can't remember where, but I have a bad habit of reading RSS feeds and then not knowing where the source waas. Mar 14 01:29:10 you've got an apple watch then Mar 14 01:29:15 Sitara is the brand of TI's general purpose ARM-based SoCs (the AMxxxx parts) Mar 14 01:29:16 you'll be in info overlaod Mar 14 01:29:30 are we going to break the internet Mar 14 01:29:40 Today I saw someone did a 6502 project for old-time fun and just modelled the chip in FPGA. Not too many transistors, there. Mar 14 01:29:45 hey guys Mar 14 01:29:59 i'm trying to share internet connectivity between my bbb and my laptop Mar 14 01:30:11 and i was told to install the g_cdc driver Mar 14 01:30:19 where can i find that Mar 14 01:30:20 cantintolinux: ehh Mar 14 01:30:31 cantintolinux: you don't need to install anything normally Mar 14 01:30:41 well when i try to update Mar 14 01:30:44 * clvrmnky out Mar 14 01:30:46 it can't connect Mar 14 01:31:12 that's logical since it can only reach your computer, you need to enable internet sharing on your computer to the beagle Mar 14 01:31:17 (depends on OS how you do that) Mar 14 01:31:36 i have windows 8 64 bit Mar 14 01:31:42 how can i enable internet sharing Mar 14 01:31:46 to the beaglebone Mar 14 01:31:50 is google down? Mar 14 01:32:10 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+internet+sharing Mar 14 01:33:32 ekk, its the end of the world Mar 14 01:33:58 cantintolinux: and you'll need to change the BBB's network config Mar 14 01:34:47 how can i do that Mar 14 01:34:51 nvm Mar 14 01:34:53 since right now it's the dhcp server on the tiny LAN (over USB) between your BBB and your computer, while it needs to be configured as client Mar 14 01:34:53 i'll google it Mar 14 01:34:57 hehehe Mar 14 01:34:58 B) Mar 14 01:35:23 ethernet over usb was the dumbest thing ever invented. Mar 14 01:35:57 mrpackethead: the worst thing is... theoretically it could even be faster than ethernet on the bbb (since it only has 100baseT) Mar 14 01:36:15 yeah. Mar 14 01:36:25 okay uh Mar 14 01:36:41 so im looking at a page about it but im not sure its even the right thing Mar 14 01:37:27 cantintolinux: I have to admit, I don't actually know offhand what the necessary changes are, since I always plug BBBs into ethernet Mar 14 01:37:37 so i configure it to use dhcp settings? Mar 14 01:37:50 i have an ethernet cable but the router is in a different room Mar 14 01:38:04 (a) get longer cable Mar 14 01:38:06 buy a cheap ethernet switch? Mar 14 01:38:15 (b) move bbb to route Mar 14 01:38:22 or that Mar 14 01:38:24 (b) move bbb to other room Mar 14 01:38:37 or (c) move router to bbb Mar 14 01:38:44 yeah but this is just more convenient in the long run u know what i'm sayin Mar 14 01:38:56 does'nt everyone have at least 12 ports of ethernet at their desk Mar 14 01:38:56 ? Mar 14 01:39:05 or is that me. Mar 14 01:39:17 cantintolinux: no, a switch on your desk to be able to plug more devices in is more convenient in the long run Mar 14 01:39:40 i guess Mar 14 01:39:45 hm Mar 14 01:40:05 also since it means windows can reboot automatically to install updates without affecting the cool stuff you got running on your BBB Mar 14 01:40:05 well i have never even booted into the actual linux on the beaglebone Mar 14 01:40:09 how do i do that Mar 14 01:40:21 log in on it you mean? Mar 14 01:40:26 yeah Mar 14 01:40:29 (it's obviously booted) Mar 14 01:40:45 so you're just using the web-interface right now? Mar 14 01:40:53 no im using putty Mar 14 01:40:58 to look at the terminal Mar 14 01:41:03 it's using debian though Mar 14 01:41:05 ok, that's it Mar 14 01:41:05 your there then! Mar 14 01:41:12 bazinga! Mar 14 01:41:16 what more are you expecting? :) Mar 14 01:41:26 a dancing elephant? Mar 14 01:41:48 you may also find its gui by connecting HDMI and mouse/keyboard Mar 14 01:42:00 yeah thats what i meant Mar 14 01:42:04 (assuming you have a standard distro installed with Xorg and stuff) Mar 14 01:42:21 I tossed all that crap on my BBB Mar 14 01:42:30 i'll need to find all the other stuff at home Mar 14 01:42:37 i don't have an hdmi and stuff with me atm Mar 14 01:42:44 there's no need for that Mar 14 01:42:52 https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration Mar 14 01:43:08 though it's useful as a way to rescue your BBB if you manage to hose its network config and can't connect with it anymore using putty Mar 14 01:43:18 (assuming you don't have a serial cable) Mar 14 01:43:34 cantintolinux: there is a file called /etc/network/interfaces Mar 14 01:43:47 i have the cable Mar 14 01:43:49 ok so Mar 14 01:43:49 actually i wonder if its already configured. Mar 14 01:44:01 from the terminal Mar 14 01:44:03 type this Mar 14 01:44:03 no i tested it with sharing on Mar 14 01:44:03 really, buying an ethernet switch is the easy solution Mar 14 01:44:12 more /etc/network/interfaces Mar 14 01:44:12 and tried to update Mar 14 01:44:24 cut and paste what it spits back at you here Mar 14 01:44:37 ok Mar 14 01:45:01 cantintolinux: since the BBB isn't configured as dhcp client, it doesn't have any way to know about the internet connection you shared with it Mar 14 01:45:15 root@beaglebone:~# more /etc/network/interfaces # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface #allow-hotplug eth0 #iface eth0 inet dhcp # Example to keep MAC address between reboots #hwaddress ether DE:AD:BE:EF:CA:FE # The secondary network Mar 14 01:45:42 i.e. everything is commented, the file isn't being used Mar 14 01:45:52 stock distro probably uses network manager or so? Mar 14 01:46:11 how can i check Mar 14 01:46:13 zmatt, i think its just the way its been copied. Mar 14 01:46:33 canto, where there '#' on teh start of every line. Mar 14 01:46:35 or just some. Mar 14 01:46:42 mrpackethead: no, #iface definitely means that line is commented Mar 14 01:46:55 there's a few uncommented lines Mar 14 01:46:56 also, no mention of the usb interface at all Mar 14 01:47:12 ah your paste is also truncated Mar 14 01:47:22 your pastebin or such Mar 14 01:47:24 but to be honest Mar 14 01:47:43 just get an ethernet switch Mar 14 01:48:20 dang Mar 14 01:48:39 especially since, right now, the usb-network connection is your only way to interact with your bbb Mar 14 01:48:53 my main goal with this beaglebone is to make the gui look cool Mar 14 01:48:58 because i've never used linux before Mar 14 01:49:16 so if you make any mistake, you have a brick until you get your hdmi cable and manage to fix its settings that way Mar 14 01:49:39 Serial cable FTW. Mar 14 01:50:29 i don't have an hdmi port on my beaglebone Mar 14 01:50:38 you do Mar 14 01:50:39 am i supposed to get a usb to hdmi converter thing or what Mar 14 01:50:41 where Mar 14 01:51:39 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#BeagleBone_Black_Picture Mar 14 01:52:16 uHDMI under the USB Host, next to the uSD slot. Mar 14 01:52:23 oh my Mar 14 01:52:28 i don't have anything like that Mar 14 01:52:37 nope, you need a special cable Mar 14 01:52:49 i do have a serial cable though so Mar 14 01:53:15 a 3.3V FTDI serial cable? ( http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial ) Mar 14 01:53:35 Search amazon for "micro HDMI" Mar 14 01:53:45 i might have one in this box of stuff Mar 14 01:54:14 I may have said this already, but to be honest... Mar 14 01:54:18 just get an ethernet switch :P Mar 14 01:54:19 The right FTDI cable gives you more blinky lights. BBB development requires photons,, blue ones and plenty of them. Mar 14 01:55:06 I know 0 about HDM Mar 14 01:55:21 I other than I plug some devices inot a dell monitor to make a TV. Mar 14 01:55:27 ok so i have a shitload of wires with the little sticks on the end Mar 14 01:56:01 cantintolinux: good, plug them in randomly. if no smoke rises out of your BBB, it may work Mar 14 01:56:18 You can get more magic smoke from Amazon. Mar 14 01:56:21 oh hey i have a usb wifi antenna Mar 14 01:56:35 MAybe a WLAN device? Mar 14 01:56:48 i've got some little red lights with two sticks on the bottom Mar 14 01:57:00 (which probably won't work without a powered usb hub btw) Mar 14 01:57:11 This channel is too technnical. Mar 14 01:58:02 a lot of tiny screws Mar 14 01:58:16 a green thingy with some more metal sticks Mar 14 01:58:38 a green thingy, sounds good, try that one Mar 14 01:58:39 Now you are just making things up. Mar 14 01:58:46 no Mar 14 01:59:03 i have no idea waht it is i just have it Mar 14 01:59:06 in this box Mar 14 01:59:15 Magic box of things. Mar 14 01:59:28 box of beaglebone magic stuff Mar 14 01:59:43 what the hell is it? Mar 14 01:59:55 a starter kit lol Mar 14 01:59:56 whatever you want it to be Mar 14 02:00:05 i have an hdd sata cable Mar 14 02:00:12 "Let me pull a rabbit out of this hat." Mar 14 02:00:21 "Oops. Wrong hat." Mar 14 02:00:31 let me pull a green thingy with sticks out of this box Mar 14 02:00:47 oh shit i have some clear lights with metal sticks Mar 14 02:00:50 and some green lights Mar 14 02:01:09 which starter kit? since it sounds like a different one than the first google hit Mar 14 02:01:21 Well, you got lots of GPIO. May as well puts ome more LEDs on the thing. Mar 14 02:02:58 there seem to be tons of "beaglebone starter kits", most of them with dubious content Mar 14 02:03:07 i have no idea Mar 14 02:03:32 i dont have the original box with me Mar 14 02:03:35 it is at my house Mar 14 02:04:08 where are you now then? Mar 14 02:04:49 a different house Mar 14 02:05:07 ok Mar 14 02:05:32 getting started with bealebone Mar 14 02:05:45 updated for the latest beaglebones running debian Mar 14 02:06:08 linux-powered electronic projects with python and javascript by matt richardson foreword by jason kridner Mar 14 02:06:48 I'm afraid you've used up your support quotum with me for today, maybe you still have credits left with someone else :P Mar 14 02:06:49 came with a metal orange case Mar 14 02:07:51 hey Mar 14 02:07:54 this looks like it Mar 14 02:07:55 http://www.logicsupply.com/components/beaglebone/boards-cases-kits/bblk-kit/ Mar 14 02:09:01 http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-71707/l/beaglebone-black-starter-kit Mar 14 02:09:08 but element 14 was on the book Mar 14 02:12:06 cantintolinux: i have 500 support credits for sale. Mar 14 02:12:36 i have a box full of random shit Mar 14 02:13:10 please send 5Million Euro by paypal to supportcredits@randomshityoudontneed.com Mar 14 02:13:51 sent Mar 14 02:14:11 i hope it's one of those two starter kits Mar 14 02:14:21 but im prob gonna do this at home Mar 14 02:14:33 sitting in bed on my laptop prob isnt the best place to do this **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 14 02:59:59 2015