**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 15 02:59:58 2015 Apr 15 05:26:48 hi Apr 15 05:27:14 anybody there? Apr 15 05:28:00 hello Apr 15 05:39:30 nobody here. Apr 15 05:39:45 ah I see later u-boot implements more env supports Apr 15 05:42:53 more env? Apr 15 05:42:57 uEnv2? Apr 15 05:43:04 systemduevn Apr 15 05:45:31 looks like there is code to dump the env into the emmc Apr 15 05:45:37 that wasn't there before Apr 15 05:46:04 av500: are we on in about 10 hrs? Apr 15 05:47:22 yes Apr 15 05:47:30 thought this week might be less busy Apr 15 05:47:43 I'll be there Apr 15 05:48:23 wasn't sure if there is a lot to talk about before slot nums come out Apr 15 05:49:04 ds2: yeah Apr 15 05:49:21 well, they come out toda :) Apr 15 05:49:24 today Apr 15 05:52:06 hi kunal Apr 15 06:01:04 hi Apr 15 06:02:42 hi anybody knows about BBB sd card Apr 15 06:03:44 hi, anybody knows about BBB sd card maximum supported capacity Apr 15 06:04:36 ?? Apr 15 06:04:43 there is no artificial limitation, so right now any capacity that you can possibly buy Apr 15 06:04:50 also learn some patience, ffs. Apr 15 06:05:22 2 TB Apr 15 06:06:01 thanks, TBR Apr 15 06:06:27 I have a 16gb sd card. Will BB B will support it? Apr 15 06:19:19 I have a 16gb sd card. Will BBB will support it? Apr 15 06:19:40 06:04:43< tbr> there is no artificial limitation, so right now any capacity that you can possibly buy Apr 15 06:56:43 thanks, tbr. Apr 15 07:35:00 I want dnsmasq to start when a usb network is established using udev Apr 15 07:35:01 how? Apr 15 07:35:48 you write an udev rule Apr 15 07:36:09 yep , but how do I sense the usb is connected? Apr 15 07:36:10 hmm does udev even get an event on new connection? Apr 15 07:36:27 the idVendor idProduct doesn't change Apr 15 07:36:37 it should.... Apr 15 07:36:53 usb connected is easy, something like ACTION=="add", ATTR{idVendor}=="0403", ATTR{idProduct}=="c630", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/bla" Apr 15 07:37:30 right but I have the usb connected now and the idVendor is as if nothing is connected Apr 15 07:37:48 nivw: is this a debian? Apr 15 07:37:55 yes it is Apr 15 07:38:03 debian 8.0 by rcn-ee Apr 15 07:38:30 nivw: On debian I'ld would just create a script in /etc/network/if-up.d Apr 15 07:38:48 right, goo idea Apr 15 07:41:43 nivw: are we talking about an usb ethernet card or a g_ether type thing? as in the latter you don't have vid/pid as you are the device Apr 15 07:42:13 g_multi Apr 15 07:44:22 then you obviously don't get a vid/pid change as _you_ are the device and have the vid/pid Apr 15 07:45:33 probably better to hook into network device events. I bet it emits something like a link ready when USB is connected and the other side opens the interface Apr 15 07:45:58 if-up.d does pretty much that but a few layers higher Apr 15 08:09:41 Hi! I'm trying to run a sample (http://www.element14.com/community/community/designcenter/single-board-computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/05/22/bbb--working-with-the-pru-icssprussv2) on BBB with the kernel 3.14.35-ti-r55 (custom built) and get the following output - http://pastebin.com/ypWVUKyY. Tried placing firmware - the result is http://pastebin.com/n0kbAJtd. Any ideas where to dig? Apr 15 09:20:21 I'm try to "i2cget -y 0 0x50". But I always get 'Device or resource is busy' Apr 15 11:10:57 hi Apr 15 11:11:13 i am newbie to BBB platform Apr 15 11:11:30 i want to interface any sound card to bbb rev c Apr 15 11:11:41 please suggest any sound card?? Apr 15 11:13:30 USB? Apr 15 11:15:49 if stability is of no big concern, then usb. If you want something that doesn't depend on the rickety musb then I²S is pretty much the way to go. IIRC there even was an audio cape at some point Apr 15 11:16:18 also the BBB has HDMI audio. If you only need output, then you can use an HDMI audio breakout. Apr 15 14:27:33 what is the new Machinekit image on the wiki? Apr 15 14:33:09 What makes it different than the Jessie Snapshots Apr 15 14:47:25 I would imagine rtos for a start .. Apr 15 14:55:54 is Robert Nelson here Apr 15 14:57:25 don't think his nick is here .. look for 'rcn-ee' Apr 15 15:00:18 ok, thanks Apr 15 15:08:17 hi guys i was wondering if someone could help me? Apr 15 15:09:13 is there a way to turn an eMMC flasher image into a standalone image? Apr 15 15:09:39 I'm new to beaglebone black as it was purchased as a gift. I was just wondering about some of the things you guys have done with it? Apr 15 15:15:59 l4cr0ss .. you can unpack it, and find the root image .. but generally there are running images around too Apr 15 15:16:53 look for non-flasher images :) Apr 15 15:22:50 veremit: the only jessie console image i can find is a flasher image. i found two standalone debian-7.8 console images but neither of them are working for me. Apr 15 15:24:26 veremit: i take it back, i found the standalone console version of that image. let's see if it works. Apr 15 15:24:52 l4cr0ss .. what issues do you have with the other console images? any error message? do you have a debug lead for the serial console? Apr 15 15:26:16 veremit: i am waiting on a serial cable to arrive in the mail. the other two images will not allow me to log in over ssh. Apr 15 15:26:32 veremit: i am presented with a login screen but the credentials do not work Apr 15 15:26:36 l4cr0ss .. hmm perhaps ssh isn't enabled by default Apr 15 15:26:49 debian:temppwd is default for rn's images Apr 15 15:27:24 root: and root:root are occasoinally used alternatives Apr 15 15:27:31 veremit: those are the credentials that i use. they work on the 7.8 image from 2-19-15 (eMMC flasher) but not on the 7.8 image from 3-01 or 3-08 Apr 15 15:27:52 hmm odd Apr 15 15:29:10 veremit: also, when i try to ssh into the troublesome images i do not get the ssh banner Apr 15 15:29:43 l4cr0ss .. would suggest perhaps thats part of the same issue Apr 15 15:31:31 veremit: seems reasonable to assume. flashing the 4.09 standalone to see if it works. Apr 15 15:33:04 i have been using the eMMC flasher from 4-09 which is working. However, after installing packages and configuring the OS and performing a reboot the networking stack starts exhibiting the same aforementioned symptoms, resulting in me getting locked out of the BBB. hoping that the serial cable will help me debug the problem further. Apr 15 15:35:49 standalone image works fine. Apr 15 15:40:50 veremit: i was able to get into the BBB using the standalone image. i mounted the eMMC and can navigate into it. any ideas how to start troubleshooting? Apr 15 15:42:19 l4cr0ss .. unless you can see whats going wrong .. Apr 15 16:01:40 ah .. here's da boss (es) .. ! Apr 15 16:17:52 veremit: i can asure you, that jkridner is very male Apr 15 16:18:10 oh? :-) Apr 15 16:18:36 is he aware of this fact, KotH ?! Apr 15 16:18:59 veremit: i think you should ask him yourself Apr 15 16:19:22 lol Apr 15 16:20:33 <_av500_> I tohught he was a giant beagle Apr 15 17:33:30 Hi all :). Does beagleboard is supported in mainline linux kernel? Apr 15 17:34:09 uniqdom, 'yes' Apr 15 17:34:59 you mean yes, or 'yes'? Apr 15 17:35:42 does it support sound and other peripherals? Apr 15 17:35:51 is something missing? Apr 15 17:35:56 uniqdom, you need to be more 'verbose', what perpherals do you need? Apr 15 17:36:11 i just need sound Apr 15 17:36:21 for which device over what interface? Apr 15 17:43:21 oh.. i thought that beagle black had audio input/output jacks, now I realized that it is not true. thanks anyway Apr 15 17:44:15 Out of the box, the bbb only has hdmi audio.. On mainline the tda988x is still getting tweaked to support audio over hdmi.. Apr 15 17:44:31 ok Apr 15 17:53:20 rcn-ee! Apr 15 17:53:46 ok, I need help with the usb g_mlti and dnsmasq Apr 15 17:54:09 I am using debian 8.0 by rcn-ee Apr 15 17:55:04 1. I installed the debian image on one bbb but g_mlti is not loaded Apr 15 17:56:11 cityLights, which image console/lxqt? Apr 15 17:56:12 I found the /opt/scripts/boot/am335x_evm.sh on the root file system, but can't find anyone calling it Apr 15 17:56:18 console image Apr 15 17:56:49 2. can we change the way dnsmasq runs? Apr 15 17:56:57 it's going to load g_ether: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L93 Apr 15 17:57:22 I want dnsmasq to bind to usb0, so I may start another dnsmasq session on my own access point network device Apr 15 17:57:31 dnsmasq settings are in : /etc/dnsmasq.d/usb0-dhcp Apr 15 17:57:45 yes, but you don't bind it to usb0 Apr 15 17:57:53 in fact you can't Apr 15 17:58:44 we should use a /etc/network/if-up.d/ script to start dnsmasq when the usb network device is UP Apr 15 17:58:58 then we can bind it to usb0, as it will then exist Apr 15 17:59:13 should I explain why I need this Apr 15 17:59:14 ? Apr 15 17:59:37 i'd like to see that option.. ;) right now i'm manually binding them... https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L131 Apr 15 18:00:37 1. here are the devices I see on the bbb: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?455829 Apr 15 18:00:40 no g_ether Apr 15 18:01:10 g_serial 3285 0 Apr 15 18:01:21 run: cd /opt/scripts/ ; git pull Apr 15 18:01:37 you have a version of the boot script that loaded g_serial while we worked out g_ether issues.. Apr 15 18:01:39 ye, I noticed generic.sh was missing Apr 15 18:02:27 I tried this script: Apr 15 18:03:00 min Apr 15 18:06:09 it also caused problems with avahi Apr 15 18:09:07 http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?455830 Apr 15 18:10:52 btw which ntp to use in debian 8.0? Apr 15 18:12:35 cityLights, ntp.... well, systemd took that over.. ;) Apr 15 18:12:47 timesyncd Apr 15 18:13:01 http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-timesyncd.service.html Apr 15 18:13:15 what do you think about my dnsmasq idea? Apr 15 18:13:46 it actually works better then the fake seed i was using to overide the clock and ntpdate... As since it's running on systemd, it knows when the network connection actually exists. (ntpdate would fail for awhile) Apr 15 18:14:07 it also sets the time on shutdown.. ;) Apr 15 18:14:14 it has to be explicitly enabled? Apr 15 18:14:24 which i've done. ;) Apr 15 18:15:05 i've seen that a few times and always just installed ntp out of habit Apr 15 18:15:17 in systemd v216 it's enabled by default, in jessie we have v215: so you have to: systemctl enable systemd-timesyncd.service Apr 15 18:15:38 so it basically does ntp + fake-hwclock type stuff? Apr 15 18:15:44 exactly! Apr 15 18:16:00 and you can set the seed time too: touch /var/lib/systemd/clock ; chown systemd-timesync:systemd-timesync /var/lib/systemd/clock Apr 15 18:16:11 then on bootup it has a very close initial time (vs 2000) Apr 15 18:21:19 what I do is setup a second network device to act as an access port Apr 15 18:21:31 cityLights, got re-flash another sd card before i can try your method. ;) Apr 15 18:21:49 then when a user connects to it , it fills the home wireless name Apr 15 18:21:54 and password Apr 15 18:22:09 nice Apr 15 18:22:12 then wlan0 will connect to that network using onnman Apr 15 18:22:47 but, I need dnsmasq to run on my access point network device Apr 15 18:22:56 that's perfect, i know jkridner would be interested in seeing that script.. just got then extend it to the bone101 nodejs pages. ;) Apr 15 18:23:08 to serve dhcp and reroute http to the setup page Apr 15 18:23:50 opps, gota run, will be back in an hour.. Apr 15 18:23:52 but the current dnsmasq setup blocks my second dnsmasq run Apr 15 18:23:59 bye bye Apr 15 18:24:06 jkridner: here? Apr 15 18:58:00 cityLights: here, but busy. Apr 15 18:58:18 cityLights: sounds like something great to add to bone101! Apr 15 19:35:50 Hi, I'm using 3.19.3 with RobertCNelson's patches. Is there some replacement for bone-pinmux-helper? I'm trying to set up the pinmux for one gpio that we use from userspace. Apr 15 19:36:21 fishey1, sorry no pinmux-helper on mainline.. Apr 15 19:37:06 device-tree-compiler? Apr 15 19:37:11 or wrong widget Apr 15 19:37:32 fishey1, you'll have to edit the *.dts and rebuild the dtb... Apr 15 19:40:47 rcn-ee: Hey rcn-ee, 1st off thank you for the work you've put into this, when i reset my BBB Rev-C using your new 4-9-15 console image the usb0 iface doesn't come back up. is this something you've seen happen before? Apr 15 19:42:18 rcn-ee: right, I'd be happy to tweak the dts. I just need to know what to add :) Apr 15 19:42:57 bone-pinmux-helper is what it appears most people used in the dts to set pinctrl appropriately Apr 15 19:43:35 (also note that I'm not quite running mainline. I have whatever https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/tree/am33x-v3.19 pulls in by default) Apr 15 19:43:35 l4cr0ss i think it's an issue with system: if you manullay do: sudo /bin/bash /opt/scripts/boot/am335x_evm.sh Apr 15 19:46:13 perhaps `gpio-hog` would do what I'm after? Apr 15 19:47:01 fishey1, gpio-hog would be open option. (just note, the version i have in v3.19.x is an early version, it was changed when it mainline) Apr 15 19:49:09 rcn-ee: so just tacking on some pinctrl-0 foo to a gpio-hog would work? Is there anything else that would work? Or something that is more recommended? My other idea was just tacking on some extra pinctrl stuff to another node in the device tree. Apr 15 19:51:04 fishey1, here's a decent example: https://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/linux/f/354/t/383391 Apr 15 19:51:20 gpio_pins... Apr 15 19:56:13 rcn-ee: browsing through that script I found this. Apr 15 19:56:14 rcn-ee: debian@arm:/etc/network$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig usb0 192.168.7.2 netmask 255.255.255.252 Apr 15 19:56:24 rcn-ee: running it gave me the following Apr 15 19:56:31 SIOCSIFADDR: No such device Apr 15 19:56:31 usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Apr 15 19:56:31 SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device Apr 15 19:56:37 rcn-ee: I'm aware of how to declare pinctrl mappings. My issue is convincing the kernel to apply them. In my particular case, there isn't a kernel driver that owns/is using the gpio pins. Instead I need to talk to them from userspace. That posting appears to indicate that using gpio-led might work, which is similar to what I was proposing (but gpio-led expects outputs and enables a bunch of led machinery I Apr 15 19:56:40 don't need) Apr 15 19:57:10 l4cr0ss, that script also loads "g_ether".. then usb0 will exist.. Apr 15 19:58:27 rcn-ee: oh ok. thanks. what is it that keeps it from running correctly in the first place? Apr 15 19:58:30 or have I misread things and not noticed that `gpio_pins` is a magic alias? Apr 15 19:59:01 l4cr0ss, in jessie systemd is suppost to call that script, but it's randomly failing.. Apr 15 19:59:58 l4cr0ss, here's the main service: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder/blob/master/target/init_scripts/systemd-generic-board-startup.service Apr 15 20:00:33 i'm pretty sure i mis-assumed something, as you see the console is 'unreliable' for setting the usb0 net bridge.. Apr 15 20:02:36 fishey1, just searched gpio_pins too.. so yeah, use gpio_hog... there's no generic "save this io for user-space" dt option, that i've found yet either.. Apr 15 20:06:08 hiii rcn-ee :) Apr 15 20:06:23 hello Apr 15 20:07:28 it seems today there was a very intense meet :P Apr 15 20:09:21 geekswine, oh i missed it, been busy at day job.. Apr 15 20:11:14 just guessing !!! Apr 15 20:11:29 was not at #gsoc but at #mentors ... Apr 15 20:29:41 rcn-ee: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?455834 Apr 15 20:29:50 I am off to sleep, but leaving this open Apr 15 20:29:53 good night Apr 15 20:52:36 rcn-ee: should this be || instead of | ? https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/generic-startup.sh#L37 Apr 15 20:54:21 l4cr0ss, no that's fine.. it's getting to: Apr 09 23:30:15 arm sh[299]: generic-board-startup: [startup script=/opt/scripts/boot/am335x_evm.sh] Apr 15 20:55:44 rcn-ee: ah ok. Apr 15 20:56:03 just failing to execute? Apr 15 20:56:23 I've been trying to delay it.. as it'll work on the first boot.. (there's a nice 30 second delay as the ssh keys are created) Apr 15 20:56:54 what? we are not ready for every single beagle to have the same host key!? *gasp* Apr 15 20:57:07 veremit, it seem to be a timing issue on startup.. Apr 15 20:57:25 odd Apr 15 20:57:25 ds2, every user has a different ssh key... it's been that way for a long time. ;) Apr 15 20:58:49 background: this was an old "/etc/init.d/generic.sh" script, that' i'm working on converting to a systemd generic.service ;) It's only an issues with the jessie images... Apr 15 20:59:08 so all the wheezy users can breath. ;) Apr 15 20:59:58 bloody systemd .. :p Apr 15 21:00:20 rcn-ee: yes but you can save 30 seconds off the first boot by not having a unique key! Apr 15 21:00:36 yeah! it is systemd's fault... it was actively yelling at me to fix /etc/init.d/generic.sh. ;) Apr 15 21:01:39 ds2, i had to put a foot down somwhere... blank root password, user/pass shown in getty/ssh/etc, bonescript on port 80, which you can do anything... ;) Apr 15 21:02:30 :D Apr 15 21:03:58 ds2 if you want to be really mean.. if someone else had bbb on your network use this: http://beagleboard.org/updater andd put thier ip and click "go" ;) Apr 15 21:04:12 hahahah Apr 15 21:04:37 rcn-ee: is that updater interface stable? Apr 15 21:05:01 ds2, i ripped it from jason's page.. so i guess it's a "stable abi".. Apr 15 21:05:24 i minimized it down to this: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder/blob/master/target/other/beta Apr 15 21:06:34 veremit, ps, if you have a pure debian *.img (base off the netinstall or etc.) we should add it to: http://beagleboard.org/updater Apr 15 21:06:58 then users can just 'click' and flash their new bbb's with an image.. ;) Apr 15 21:07:05 no messing with microSD cards.. Apr 15 21:07:09 rcn-ee: is it likely to be supported for a while? (short story - trying to see if it makes sense to point complete n00bs there) Apr 15 21:07:15 rcn-ee : yikes Apr 15 21:07:31 ds2, when i tried it a few days ago, it was still having issues... Apr 15 21:07:39 (it only half way flashed) Apr 15 21:07:40 rcn-ee .. can you do an equivalent for non-net-connected serial console!? ;) Apr 15 21:07:52 veremit, pressed.cfg! Apr 15 21:08:11 oh wait.. non-net... Apr 15 21:08:16 think that's enough then Apr 15 21:08:19 yea .. lol Apr 15 21:08:52 quadcopter debug cable delivery service, perhaps? Apr 15 21:09:08 i think jason was thinking of "noobs - rasbery pi" type clone, and that's what that site could be used for.. Apr 15 21:09:34 pre-built beagle-n00b-distro is probbaly good Apr 15 21:09:42 but it needs to be stable enough to not create more problems Apr 15 21:09:44 pre="burned" .. ie. uSD -to-go Apr 15 21:10:04 but why/how someone can brick their eMMC .. Apr 15 21:10:16 I guess that's why the Pi went for SD cards Apr 15 21:10:20 the non-net, just needs a dvd/bluray.iso burrned and make sure the usb-dvd/bluray is plugged in.. Apr 15 21:10:34 it'll usb-boot? Apr 15 21:10:49 well microSD boot, with *.deb archive on dvd.. Apr 15 21:11:05 things were so much saner with angstrom Apr 15 21:11:07 usb-stick boot would be cool Apr 15 21:11:08 main should fit on 4.7Gb? Apr 15 21:11:18 ds2 .. yes the entry barrier was set a bit higher :) Apr 15 21:11:35 veremit: there are benefits to that Apr 15 21:11:59 ds2: agreed to a limit extent .. its when its hard for even semi-competant people when it becomes a nuisance .. lol Apr 15 21:12:00 ds2, we just need someone to step up and 'maintain angstrom'... ;) Apr 15 21:12:09 +2 rcn-ee Apr 15 21:12:21 .. or even just a beaglebone website -sigh- Apr 15 21:12:34 i nomiate ds2! ;) even thou i nomitated for all the gsoc stuff too.... Apr 15 21:12:42 I propose the Beaglebone Documentation Project Apr 15 21:13:10 rcn-ee: I actually thought of that Apr 15 21:13:28 but my preferences for distros don't match what people want Apr 15 21:13:31 i know you use it. ;) Apr 15 21:13:37 rcn-ee .. do we have a volunteer *cough* victim to write a new musb driver?! :p Apr 15 21:13:51 ds2 .. name your 'top 3' Apr 15 21:14:02 veremit: top 3 what? Apr 15 21:14:07 ds2: distros Apr 15 21:14:22 for embedde linux Apr 15 21:14:25 ds2, 6 years ago, people thought i was crazy to put sarge on the beagle classic... it just takes time to wear them down. ;) Apr 15 21:14:29 I don't use distros in general. I use whatever images I have around as a root disk Apr 15 21:14:44 hmm ok. Apr 15 21:15:03 almost everything I have can be dumped onto an image and made to work Apr 15 21:15:29 what I don't like is the unclear pedegree of binaries for debian Apr 15 21:15:41 rcn-ee .. I'll work with ya on gentoo ;) Apr 15 21:16:30 it would have to be binary-gentoo .. the thought of compiling packages makes me sick. Apr 15 21:16:45 just got to pull nerdboy in too, he's been playing with yocto too much.. ;) Apr 15 21:16:47 compiling is good Apr 15 21:17:02 known pedegree of your binaries Apr 15 21:17:26 ds2 .. true, but if you got crap libs .. or a slow processor .. that bites. Apr 15 21:17:44 imagine building libreoffice for the beagle .. ouch. Apr 15 21:17:57 or chromium. Apr 15 21:18:33 chromium... yuck... an omap5 + lpae + 4gb + sata can't do that right now...... Apr 15 21:18:34 on the target system .. not cross-compile ofc :p Apr 15 21:18:43 cross compile Apr 15 21:18:44 rcn-ee .. precisely. Apr 15 21:18:57 and only use packages that cross compile properly Apr 15 21:19:18 that defeats the object of having a credit-sized compute .. if you need ANOTHER computer to use it. Apr 15 21:19:40 I don't see it that way but *shrug* Apr 15 21:19:56 if its just a toy in your toybox .. well .. thats different. Apr 15 21:20:16 I use it do stuff not compile things Apr 15 21:20:39 exactly Apr 15 21:20:47 I also use much much lighter weight platforms Apr 15 21:20:53 say... uCLinux Apr 15 21:21:28 rcn-ee: what OMAP5 board is that? Apr 15 21:21:56 ds2: https://www.isee.biz/products/igep-processor-boards/igepv5-omap5432 Apr 15 21:23:18 rcn-ee: can you use both cores on that w/o thermal throttling? Apr 15 21:24:20 sorry i never check that.. it's in a box with 4 120mm 12volt fans moving air... Apr 15 21:32:11 lol Apr 15 21:41:15 on the BBB is their a way to measure the current being drawn by each rail? (or I missed something) Apr 15 21:44:53 rcn-ee: does update_initramfs.sh add the latest in /lib/firmware to the initrd? Apr 15 21:45:58 er, update_initrd.sh Apr 15 21:48:09 GenTooMan .. I heard something about registers in the PMIC maybe? over i2c? Apr 15 21:49:52 jkridner, as long as it calls: "update-initramfs -uk $(uname -r)" Apr 15 21:50:04 rcn-ee: wouldn't it? Apr 15 21:50:40 if some /lib/firmware is missing, you'll have to tweak: initramfs.conf Apr 15 21:51:11 k. Apr 15 21:51:36 veremit I'll go have a look around the PMIC and at the PMIC thanks. Apr 15 21:52:15 rcn-ee: hmmmm..... Apr 15 21:52:33 well, I'm trying to add a cape dtbo to /lib/firmware. Apr 15 21:53:23 check: cat /boot/System.map-`uname -r` | grep dtbo Apr 15 21:54:02 no /boot/System.map-* Apr 15 21:54:30 the base image is 4/23/14 Apr 15 21:55:19 14? wow ... Apr 15 21:55:25 vintage Apr 15 21:55:30 yeah.... as shipped. Apr 15 21:55:44 they had software back then?! ;P lol Apr 15 21:58:15 DOH! Apr 15 21:58:31 I forgot this image needed me to manually copy to the FAT folder! Apr 15 21:59:04 hehe Apr 15 21:59:13 you got use to the simplicity of the newer setup? ;) Apr 15 21:59:56 rcn-ee: very used to it. Apr 15 22:01:36 gah! still didn't find the firmware... Apr 15 22:01:46 when I mount the ramdisk manually, it seems empty. Apr 15 22:02:02 file is initrd.img in the FAT partition, yes? Apr 15 22:02:09 yeap! Apr 15 22:02:46 mount process isn't "mount /boot/initrd.img-3.8.13-bone47 /mnt -t ramfs"? Apr 15 22:02:56 because /mnt is empty after that. Apr 15 22:03:02 it's a cpio archive... Apr 15 22:03:33 http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/ Apr 15 22:04:27 wish it was a normal tar, but many years ago they decicded to make it cpio... way to late to change it.. Apr 15 22:05:55 it's also compressed so for gzip: gunzip l4cr0ss, found the timeing race..: i'm calling: "modprobe g_ether" but: "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'g_ether': No such device" even thou the file system is available.... Apr 15 22:10:10 aha Apr 15 22:10:40 i wonder does systemd have a trigger... "it's now safe to call modprobe"... Apr 15 22:11:13 (sleep 10) works, but i'm not going to ship that... Apr 15 22:14:06 rcn-ee: oh. Apr 15 22:14:09 just compile it in... Apr 15 22:14:15 modprobe is an excuse to waste time :P Apr 15 22:14:47 ds2, can't... there's no g_all.... Apr 15 22:16:38 k, looking at the cpio records, /lib/firmware certainly isn't there. Apr 15 22:16:54 rcn-ee: ah, just saw your instructions. Apr 15 22:16:55 rcn-ee: write one then ;) Apr 15 22:17:17 ds2, i'd like to keep what sanity i have left.. ;) Apr 15 22:17:49 so, -u should add it? Apr 15 22:18:09 brb Apr 15 22:18:13 -u just updates... (-c creates one if that files doesn't exit).. Apr 15 22:19:09 * jkridner hasn't found the magic to get /lib/firmware added. Apr 15 22:19:57 we should be able to force it via: initramfs.conf Apr 15 22:20:04 just not 100% sure on how.. Apr 15 22:20:19 is that debian/ubuntu ? Apr 15 22:20:28 ogra_, correct.. Apr 15 22:20:54 no modules reference the *.dtbo object, so update-initramfs doesn't automaticly find it.. Apr 15 22:21:30 take a look under /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks ... create a fimware hook that copies the files in place Apr 15 22:21:45 jkridner, ^^ ;) Apr 15 22:22:45 (should be enough examples in that dir) Apr 15 22:24:13 hello I have a question Apr 15 22:25:11 ogra_, rcn-ee: k, giving it a shot now. Apr 15 22:25:11 jkridner, really quick hack: https://gist.github.com/RobertCNelson/46021c3385861b2086ba Apr 15 22:25:19 I have a project where I need to use two screens (1 LCD touch and 1 HDMI LCD both 7") Apr 15 22:25:41 Guest1348, do you mind if they are exactly the "same" screen with the "same" content? Apr 15 22:26:01 can I use the BBB for this porpuse? Apr 15 22:26:39 Guest1348, as long as they "exactly" the same resoultion, down to "all" timings... they'll be cloned displays... Apr 15 22:26:39 display driver wont' ... ah same interface .. :/ Apr 15 22:26:47 rcn-ee: we modded the same example. :) Apr 15 22:27:01 jkridner, it was the smallest.. Apr 15 22:27:03 would be great to have different screens or at least duplicate the screens Apr 15 22:27:10 in the same way, except you added .dtbo Apr 15 22:27:17 I brought it all in. Apr 15 22:27:30 rebooting.... fingers crossed Apr 15 22:27:47 Guest1348, you'd have to use a secondary adapter.. lookup usb display adapters... otherwise only one true display with bbb.. Apr 15 22:28:02 hurray! Apr 15 22:28:13 it works! Apr 15 22:28:14 Guest1348 .. the screen would be duplicated, that's presently the only way with those interfaces. Apr 15 22:28:17 LCD at boot. Apr 15 22:28:17 jkridner, sweet! Apr 15 22:28:44 \o/ Apr 15 22:28:46 jkridner, shouldi add that hook to the default image? ;) Apr 15 22:29:15 thks jkridner, Apr 15 22:29:50 rcn-ee: yeah.... that'd be great. Apr 15 22:30:48 so at the end, Will I able to use the BeagleBone LCD7 touch and a duplicate LCD by HDMI? Apr 15 22:31:54 Guest1348, "duplicate" only... and it has to be the same resolution/timing... Apr 15 22:32:19 Guest1348, so if lcd is 640x480, your hdmi has to be too... Apr 15 22:32:33 and 60hz etc. Apr 15 22:32:39 Guest1348: are either displays static? Apr 15 22:33:11 yes I got it, ok then I have to find the displays Apr 15 22:33:20 Guest1348, it's more of a hack, if you truly need two displays, look up: http://www.newegg.com/USB-Display-Adapters/SubCategory/ID-3046 Apr 15 22:33:38 I don't have the displays yet, Apr 15 22:33:52 any suggestions Apr 15 22:33:55 there aren't many boards with two output displays are there? Apr 15 22:34:02 not at the low-cost end anyhow Apr 15 22:34:12 the "panda" had two. ;) Apr 15 22:34:29 Had? Apr 15 22:35:00 idk, if you can even get them anymore.. (outside ebay) Apr 15 22:35:17 what chip was that? and what hardware? Apr 15 22:35:24 omap4430 Apr 15 22:35:39 so did the BBC/BBX Apr 15 22:35:39 ah Apr 15 22:48:39 The BB-xM can display two LCD (1 LCD touch and 1 HMDI/DVI/ display) Apr 15 22:48:51 ?? Apr 15 22:50:59 depending on how you define a display, any board can do more a half dozen or more easily Apr 15 22:51:39 anyone? Apr 15 22:51:58 I'm guest143? Apr 15 22:57:32 * nerdboy is distro developer/maintainer so guess what Apr 15 22:57:47 i do use distros on embedded... Apr 15 22:57:47 fer/Guest1348 .. same problem there is only one display interface on the host processor .. Apr 15 22:58:11 so the displays must be identical as far as the driver is concerned Apr 15 22:58:19 you need to find a processor with more than one display interface Apr 15 22:58:25 ~NOT just the connector. Apr 15 22:59:14 if you need a small multi-display board .. get something like the intel celeron j1800 .. Apr 15 23:00:16 although i have no idea what the question/topic was... Apr 15 23:04:05 veremit: if he would define what a "display" is.... Apr 15 23:04:22 but since I am being ignored, I will not chase that topic anymore Apr 15 23:05:07 thks all Apr 15 23:05:10 I got it Apr 15 23:47:49 hi guys, I can view 192.168.7.2 webpage on my laptop ( via usb) - if my android mobile can connect to a tomcat server running on my laptop via wifi at 192.168.0.17:8080 what do i have to do to connect to 192.168.7.2 on my chrome browser on my mobile ( samsungS5) - is it possible? I get page not available - is there an app on my phone that will let me view bbb( 192.168.7.2) from my mobile phone? ( newbie) hope that makes sense Apr 15 23:48:19 no. Apr 15 23:48:52 you can do it if you share your 'internet' connection on your laptop .. but its so much simpler just to plug the beagle into a router via its rj45 socket :p Apr 15 23:49:08 ta Apr 15 23:49:16 and have the router and phone on the same subnet Apr 15 23:49:29 thanks very much Apr 15 23:49:34 well .. my s4 is on the same wifi as most of my home net ;) Apr 15 23:49:46 yep Apr 15 23:50:02 the alternative would be to "wifi" your beagle. Apr 15 23:50:16 but that has its gotchas Apr 15 23:51:39 I use a cisco/linksys WET610N direct rj45 to BBB and still wifi :) Apr 15 23:51:44 royh.. basically it comes down to how competant you are with networking protocols and linux :) Apr 15 23:52:20 moto-timo.. I should think its possible to connect a BBB to an Access point directly .. avoid the wifi driver issues .. :) Apr 15 23:52:55 no driver with the above... it connects with DHCP and exposes a "wired" connection to the BBB Apr 15 23:53:05 moto .. precisely Apr 15 23:53:06 very handy Apr 16 00:00:23 will a 4DCape-43T allow me to run html5 to screen - or do I have only capability to write java2d I cant find any doco that tells me that I can run html5 on it Apr 16 00:01:22 royh: that would be a software issue not hardware... display will work **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 16 00:33:47 2015 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 16 02:59:59 2015