**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 09 02:59:59 2015
May 09 03:04:24 <zacts> hi
May 09 03:04:28 <zacts> what is freedombone?
May 09 03:04:36 <zacts> I'm trying to find a good distro to put on my beaglebone black
May 09 03:04:46 <zacts> I want to install to my 128G microSD card
May 09 03:04:53 <zacts> I don't want to use arch linux
May 09 03:05:00 <zacts> but a debian based distro perhaps
May 09 03:07:37 <vvu> http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/bone-debian-7.8-lxde-4gb-armhf-2015-03-01-4gb.img.xz maybe ?
May 09 03:07:42 <zacts> ah ok, cool
May 09 03:07:44 <vvu> latest from bb.org site
May 09 03:07:48 <zacts> yeah, I think I will go this route
May 09 03:08:06 <zacts> I would prefer to use debian jessie 8.0 though, if they exist yet
May 09 03:09:30 <vvu> https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBoard#BeagleBoard-Debian8
May 09 03:11:29 <zacts> oh cool, thanks
May 09 04:52:34 <praveen> I try to connect the beagle bone black with VGA monitor it is not working
May 09 04:58:33 <praveen> hello any one is there
May 09 05:56:06 <Gianmariai> Hello
May 09 05:57:32 <_av500_> hello
May 09 05:57:51 <Gianmariai> Good morning... I need a little help
May 09 05:59:23 <Gianmariai> maybe something can sound stupid for a lot of people here working on hardware
May 09 06:01:46 <Gianmariai> I have just ended prototyping a new product using bbb. I know all files  and details are present on website, (gerber, electric schemes etc)..
May 09 06:02:18 <Gianmariai> now we want to create a product starting from this prototype. Remove all unecessary things and create a new pcb
May 09 06:02:53 <Gianmariai> my question is on the bootloader.
May 09 06:03:28 <Gianmariai> once i have the new product, how can i program the bootloader?
May 09 06:04:22 <Gianmariai> We will use android on a microSD
May 09 06:05:26 <Gianmariai> Where i can find more information on it or... what is the practice i have to follow ? Expose jtag or something similar for the bootloader programming?
May 09 06:07:49 <tbr> if you use a microSD and not a eMMC, then there's nothing to program. it's all on the µSD
May 09 06:12:01 <_av500_> Gianmariai: the "bootloader" is in ROM
May 09 06:12:05 <_av500_> you cannot program it
May 09 06:12:38 <_av500_> read the chapter on booting in the TRM
May 09 06:12:55 <praveen_> I try to connect the beagle bone black with VGA monitor it is not working
May 09 06:13:56 <_av500_> the BBB does not support VGA
May 09 06:14:07 <_av500_> you need an active converter or an HDMI monitor
May 09 06:29:09 <praveen_> I am using micro HDMI to hdmi male then female hdmi,then to vga converter
May 09 06:29:57 <tbr> rovide details about the converter.
May 09 06:31:09 <praveen_> While booting for couple of minutes it is working after that it is not working propely
May 09 06:32:30 <tbr> what happens right before that?
May 09 06:32:40 <tbr> what is "not working propely"
May 09 06:36:05 <praveen_> while boot ,monitor is ON only for 2 minute,it showing the booting option and it show beagle bone desktop after that ,input to the monitor is not transfering properly,so the monitor isOFF
May 09 06:36:19 <Gianmariai> av500: this means i can forget about it? When i boot the microsd (android 4.4), before it start loading i see from serial debut uboot starting.. this also come from SD? Can you link me the doc about it? i will pass to the guys will work on electric schemes
May 09 06:36:41 <tbr> Gianmariai: read the TRM, it's easy to find
May 09 06:37:06 <tbr> praveen_: so you see the desktop on your monitor and then it turns off?
May 09 06:37:18 <praveen_> yes
May 09 06:37:33 <tbr> do you have a mouse or a keyboard attached?
May 09 06:37:56 <praveen_> yes
May 09 06:38:26 <praveen_> when i connect with the HDMI monitor(projector) it is working properly
May 09 06:38:32 <Gianmariai> tbr and av500: thank you guys for your help
May 09 06:40:10 <praveen_> in the hdmi monitor it is working fine,i can brows,i can program.
May 09 06:41:12 <praveen_> I am thinking can i use micro hdmi to vga converter?whether it will work or not?
May 09 06:41:55 <tbr> sounds like a problem with that converter
May 09 06:42:11 <praveen_> may be
May 09 06:43:50 <praveen_> is it right choice to use micro hdmi to vga converter? for the monitor
May 09 06:47:36 <Gianmariai> found that boot seq. can be handled on hardware ( page 6 of schematics rec. c)
May 09 07:26:21 <_av500_> Gianmariai: again, read the chapter on booting in the TRM
May 09 07:26:31 <_av500_> the cpu can boot from many devices
May 09 07:26:33 <_av500_> SD
May 09 07:26:33 <_av500_> emmc
May 09 07:26:35 <_av500_> usb
May 09 07:26:36 <_av500_> serial
May 09 07:26:39 <_av500_> even ethernet
May 09 07:26:49 <_av500_> so its not hard to get your sw "inside"
May 09 07:28:36 <Gianmariai> yes av500... I've seen... I' will pass the info i found to engeneers
May 09 07:29:16 <Gianmariai> but can you link me the exact location on "booting in the TRM" ? this is from TI?
May 09 07:29:54 <tbr> yes, the TRM for the AM335x
May 09 07:32:32 <Gianmariai> section 26.1.5.1 from thechnical reference manual
May 09 07:32:33 <Gianmariai> got it
May 09 10:40:23 <chloe> hi
May 09 10:41:00 <chloe> hi
May 09 10:42:19 <chloe> ho
May 09 11:21:03 <cmpRick> Hi
May 09 12:04:33 <GenTooMan> I wonder if their is a way to automatically kick bots from here they are really annoying
May 09 12:08:39 * tbr fails to see the bots wreaking havoc here, but maybe I'm blind
May 09 12:20:27 <HyP3r> I have a Beagle Bone Black with a 4GB eMMC on board, does it matter if I'm using a 4gb or 2gb image?
May 09 12:23:14 <tbr> not really unless you urgently need the space
May 09 12:23:22 <tbr> but even then you can just resize it
May 09 12:23:57 <HyP3r> Okay
May 09 13:28:37 <GenTooMan> tbr: no but they do inject randomly into the messages as I said annoying, you are right though not havoc. I guess their isn't a large enough message volume for it to be problematic here.
May 09 13:29:56 <tbr> GenTooMan: example of such?
May 09 13:32:17 <GenTooMan> 06:42:49 EST hi 3 times in 2 minute span, it's a java based irc bot on an android device. (which makes little sense but I digress)
May 09 13:33:38 <GenTooMan> at LEAST it's not a spam bot.
May 09 13:34:00 <tbr> GenTooMan: I've got news for you, there are actual IRC clients based on the pircbot framework, including on android: http://www.jibble.org/pircbot-implementations.php
May 09 13:35:37 <GenTooMan> and this is the bot "Comic Bot" http://www.jibble.org/comicbot/
May 09 13:38:15 <GenTooMan> Anyhow morning, as I said the bot is mostly annoying but not the end of the world as we know it.
May 09 16:12:31 <GenTooMan> opinions which is sturdier HDMI or DVI connector for a semi industrial setting?
May 09 16:14:31 <Zorgon> how do you define sturdy ?
May 09 16:14:43 <Zorgon> does it have to take mechanical stress?
May 09 16:14:55 <Zorgon> or EM radiation or something else?
May 09 16:24:01 <GenTooMan> mechanical stress limited EMI
May 09 22:40:13 <wolf91> hi, i have a problem with serial comunication. i set comunication acording to a qnx documentation : Baudrate: 115200
May 09 22:40:15 <wolf91> • Data: 8 bit
May 09 22:40:17 <wolf91> • Parity:no
May 09 22:40:19 <wolf91> • Stop: 1 bit
May 09 22:40:21 <wolf91> • Flow control: none
May 09 22:40:23 <wolf91> and i get with start neutrino:
May 09 22:40:25 <wolf91> |=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2015.05.10 00:36:42 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
May 09 22:40:27 <wolf91> ("IP!I"I"IIPH(P$H)(IB!$! )!I"H"H!!
May 09 22:40:29 <wolf91> when i try communicate with debian i get similar unintelligible characters
May 09 22:41:22 <wolf91> i tested my serial converter with resistor between tx and rx and it's working fine
May 10 01:44:17 <zb_> i need to connect a BBB to a custom board. the board takes 5V on one pin and 14V on another. how can i do this?
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