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Jul 07 09:00:19 <milad> hi, a successfully installed sgx modules according to eewiki.net to beagleboard black running kernel 3.14.46-ti-r70
Jul 07 09:00:35 <milad> bu how can i run the examples and demos
Jul 07 09:03:28 <woglinde> start them?
Jul 07 09:05:53 <milad> there should be any demo file in /opt dir to start?
Jul 07 09:21:42 <milad> yes start them!!
Jul 07 09:42:01 <User8098> Hi! How can I disable all text output which is shown during boot? I have added my own logo image to the kernel which is now shown in the background. But I want the user to see ONLY the logo an no text a all. How can I do this? I'm using Debian 3.8 Stock image from the Beaglebone Images Page. Thanks!
Jul 07 09:44:20 <milad> change the console to serial e.g console=ttyO0 in bootargs
Jul 07 09:47:35 <User8098> Thanks for the answer! So you mean add the line "console=ttyO0" in boot/uEnv.txt? This doesn't work for me
Jul 07 09:48:45 <woglinde> User8098 no to the kernel cmdline
Jul 07 09:48:51 <woglinde> option
Jul 07 09:52:19 <User8098> hmm. where can I find them in this Linux distro?
Jul 07 10:02:52 <woglinde> uEnv.txt is right
Jul 07 10:04:00 <User8098> ?
Jul 07 10:04:08 <milad> search for console in your uEnv.txt
Jul 07 10:05:57 <User8098> Yeah. This is it: http://pastebin.com/GAEgqiww
Jul 07 10:06:16 <User8098> but this one doesn't cause the messages to disappera
Jul 07 10:06:20 <User8098> disappear
Jul 07 10:07:01 <milad> disappear from where?
Jul 07 10:07:32 <adj> just a random guess, try this: cmdline=quiet init=/lib/systemd/systemd console=ttyO0
Jul 07 10:08:29 <User8098> disappear from boot screen (the area under the pinguin)
Jul 07 10:09:35 <User8098> And "cmdline=quiet init=/lib/systemd/systemd console=ttyO0" doesn't work too
Jul 07 10:12:10 <milad> send a sample of texts that shown when booting.
Jul 07 10:18:44 <User8098> e.g. bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #0: no cape found
Jul 07 10:28:49 <milad> at last try ttyS0
Jul 07 10:41:58 <User8098> console=ttyS0 gives me ALL messages
Jul 07 10:52:26 <User8098> seems that this are only the capemanager output messages. Is there a ways to disable them?
Jul 07 10:52:50 <ogra_> you could hack your kernel log level
Jul 07 10:53:02 <ogra_> (somewhere in init.c iirc)
Jul 07 10:54:06 <ogra_> (or init/main.c)
Jul 07 10:55:14 <User8098> so this means I have to resompile?
Jul 07 10:55:20 <User8098> recompile
Jul 07 10:56:12 <ogra_> yes
Jul 07 10:56:36 <ogra_> here is an example https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-October/007057.html ...
Jul 07 10:58:42 <woglinde> quiet
Jul 07 10:58:47 <woglinde> may help too
Jul 07 11:00:20 <ogra_> he said it didnt above
Jul 07 11:00:43 <ogra_> i guess the capemgr hacks add some printk's with wrong loglevel
Jul 07 11:01:24 <ogra_> iirc there is a way to set the printk level on cmdline too ... so no recompile might be needed ...
Jul 07 11:03:15 <ogra_> ah, loglevel=1
Jul 07 11:03:36 * ogra_ would try "quiet loglevel=1" 
Jul 07 11:03:51 <woglinde> ogra yes you can set some loglevel with foo.log.moo or so
Jul 07 11:04:05 <woglinde> depending on the kernel code
Jul 07 11:04:19 <User8098> foo.log.moo ? :-)
Jul 07 11:04:23 <ogra_> heh
Jul 07 11:04:33 <woglinde> iirc is there one commando to disable all even the cursor
Jul 07 11:04:53 <woglinde> or the cursor
Jul 07 11:04:54 <woglinde> sorry
Jul 07 11:05:09 <ogra_> yeah, thats also an ancient ubuntu hack iirc
Jul 07 11:05:28 <ogra_> (which made it upstream eventually)
Jul 07 11:06:24 <woglinde> no
Jul 07 11:06:35 <woglinde> was around kernel 2.3.36 or so
Jul 07 11:06:40 <woglinde> where it went upstream
Jul 07 11:06:50 <woglinde> 10.04 kernel was to old
Jul 07 11:06:54 <ogra_> well, i just remember that for usplash this hack was needed
Jul 07 11:07:06 <ogra_> must have been around 5.04 or 5.10
Jul 07 11:07:14 <woglinde> hm
Jul 07 11:07:59 <ogra_> but i might be wrong and it never went upstream... back then our kernel team was a sinngle person :)
Jul 07 11:08:04 <User8098> So https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-October/007057.html did it
Jul 07 11:08:13 <User8098> I thank you very much!
Jul 07 11:23:11 <woglinde> User8098 you recompiled the kernel?
Jul 07 12:26:56 <User8098> yes
Jul 07 15:55:43 <georgefw> hi everyone
Jul 07 15:56:35 <georgefw> would beagleboard users be interested in 3D printed accessories for their devices?
Jul 07 15:57:43 <agmlego> Maybe.
Jul 07 15:58:05 <agmlego> Personally, I would be a lot more interested in injection-molded accerssories.
Jul 07 15:58:17 <agmlego> Since the only accessory I can think of for a bone is a case.
Jul 07 15:59:05 <agmlego> And while 3D-printed cases are fine in qty.<10...if you intend to sell a thing in volume, use a volume manufacturing technique.
Jul 07 15:59:09 <agmlego> IMNSHO.
Jul 07 16:02:52 <georgefw> I think the ability to create unique prints could lead to some interesting uses for the beagleboard.
Jul 07 16:03:51 <georgefw> With a network of distributed 3D printers, you could provide a large proportion of the world accessories that can be made to order and locally as opposed to shipping 1000's of the same product across the world
Jul 07 16:04:25 <agmlego> Sure. So you are then investing in professional 3D pprinters, not hobbyist ones?
Jul 07 16:05:28 <tbr> further scaled version of shapeways, I guess
Jul 07 16:06:34 <agmlego> Yeah, that would be my other question; how does this new service compete with existing names like Shapeways and Ponoko for make-on-demand?
Jul 07 16:06:38 <georgefw> yeah like a scaled version of shapeways. I work for a company called 3D Hubs just wanted to find out what people thought, were basically an Air bnb for 3D printing.
Jul 07 16:07:32 <georgefw> We have nearly 20,000 machines around the world of course a lot of them are hobbyist machines but a surprising amount are professional machines such as SLA, SLS machines.
Jul 07 16:08:33 <agmlego> I see.
Jul 07 16:08:41 <georgefw> I have seen a lot of the cool projects being done with beagleboards and thought 3D printing could definitely open up even more creative avenues
Jul 07 16:09:07 <agmlego> Well, an awful lot of said hobbyists already have printers.
Jul 07 16:09:18 <agmlego> And there are printers powered by beaglebones.
Jul 07 16:09:21 <georgefw> especially with Robotics and so on, was just interested in hearing what people thought or if they had played around with the tech
Jul 07 16:11:07 <georgefw> yeah makes sense. Do you think that there is scope for people to use 3D printing services as well as owning their own 3D printers
Jul 07 16:12:09 <agmlego> Not much of one.
Jul 07 16:12:51 <georgefw> what do you use your beagleboard for?
Jul 07 16:13:16 <agmlego> There are several assumptions there which are false.
Jul 07 16:14:27 <agmlego> For one, you assume I have one and only o0ne board. Second, you assume that I have a beagleboard (two varients, both deprecated) rather than a beaglebone (two variants, one deprecated). Third, you assume I use them. ;-P
Jul 07 16:17:37 <georgefw> haha fair enough. Thanks for your thoughts on 3D printing anyways. Every little helps.
Jul 07 16:25:06 <zmatt> agmlego: omap3 has a C64x DSP you could program for... good practice for the C66x DSPs the bbx15 will have
Jul 07 16:27:21 <zmatt> (unlike that bizarre contraption called "Tesla" that's on omap4)
Jul 07 16:28:26 <agmlego> zmatt: I am sorry...what are you talking about?
Jul 07 16:29:09 <zmatt> the original beagleboards.. they still have some potential use such as above ;)
Jul 07 16:29:15 <zmatt> at least while waiting for the x15
Jul 07 16:30:28 <agmlego> I guess I am not understanding your point.
Jul 07 16:31:23 <zmatt> I wasn't making one of substantial significance, so you can safely disregard
Jul 07 16:31:48 <agmlego> Oh.
Jul 07 16:33:10 <zmatt> just that there are still quite a few nice bits about these "deprecated" boards
Jul 07 16:33:58 <agmlego> Well, sure.
Jul 07 16:34:12 <agmlego> i3Detroit has a small stack of C4s.
Jul 07 16:34:40 <zmatt> some of them probably never very deeply explored.... afaik (and tbh I don't know much about these boards and their typical use) custom-programming the DSP was for example not exactly commonplace
Jul 07 16:35:27 <zmatt> but I could be wrong, dunno... while back someone was here inquiring about it who was under the impression that running code on the DSP was a complicated procedure (it isn't)
Jul 07 16:38:43 <zmatt> and at least the omap3s still had full C64x DSPs, while the omap4 have some weird custom contraption "Tesla" (C64T)... the current compilers have actually officially declared Tesla obsolete and dropped support for it :P
Jul 07 17:01:33 <newguy> hey does beagle have built-in wifi?
Jul 07 17:01:38 <_av500_> no
Jul 07 17:01:41 <agmlego> No.
Jul 07 17:01:45 <agmlego> Panda did.
Jul 07 17:01:45 <_av500_> put a usb wifi stick
Jul 07 17:02:17 <newguy> will there be wifi in the future?
Jul 07 17:02:23 <agmlego> Maybe.
Jul 07 17:02:30 <newguy> Panda?
Jul 07 17:02:37 <agmlego> Look up the Beaglebone X15
Jul 07 17:02:56 <agmlego> newguy: Pandaboard was a board in the beagle family.
Jul 07 17:04:02 <newguy> so do you guys work at Beagle?
Jul 07 17:04:07 <agmlego> No.
Jul 07 17:04:15 <_av500_> I work at irc
Jul 07 17:04:18 <agmlego> I mean, a few people here do.
Jul 07 17:04:24 <agmlego> But most here do not.
Jul 07 17:04:31 <agmlego> (like most other IRC support channels)
Jul 07 17:04:36 <newguy> cool cool
Jul 07 17:04:54 <newguy> any wifi alternatives to single-board computers? any promising ones?
Jul 07 17:05:06 <_av500_> plug a usb stick
Jul 07 17:05:10 <_av500_> done
Jul 07 17:05:11 <agmlego> I am sure Google can give you a list, or elinux.org. ;-P
Jul 07 17:05:27 <Humpelst1lzchen> newguy: hummingboard?
Jul 07 17:06:43 <_av500_> Humpelst1lzchen: I had hummingborad.org for a year, nobody clicked on it ever
Jul 07 17:06:50 <_av500_> so that board is "hot"
Jul 07 17:08:12 <Humpelst1lzchen> _av500_: works for me as good as bbb
Jul 07 17:10:23 <agmlego> Humpelst1lzchen: Sure, but the request was for WiFi...which the Hummingboard seems to lack just as much as does the bone.
Jul 07 17:14:05 <Humpelst1lzchen> agmlego: lol, looks like they removed the wifi option, earlier version had one (optional)
Jul 07 17:15:37 <agmlego> Heh.
Jul 07 17:16:57 <_av500_> nobody likes the certifications
Jul 07 17:17:01 <_av500_> likes to do*
Jul 07 17:17:16 <agmlego> Flutter did.
Jul 07 17:17:18 <agmlego> ;-P
Jul 07 18:29:12 <djlewis> av500: good morning
Jul 07 18:34:39 <_av500_> djlewis: aloha
Jul 07 18:53:50 <jmss> Hi, is there a page/news where we can see if there is a new beagleboard comming soon?
Jul 07 18:54:53 <agmlego> There is.
Jul 07 18:55:04 <agmlego> The BeagleBone X15.
Jul 07 18:55:39 <rcn-ee> agmlego, there is no such thing as the "BeagleBone X15", it's "BeagleBoard X15"...
Jul 07 18:56:23 <jkridner> yeah... it won't be a "bare-bones" board.
Jul 07 18:57:46 <jmss> thanks
Jul 07 19:01:01 <jmss> what about a beaglebone?
Jul 07 19:01:31 <jkridner> jmss: best thing is to read http://beagleboard.org/discuss
Jul 07 19:01:47 <jmss> thanks
Jul 07 19:02:58 <jkridner> also, sign up on the newsletter, http://beagleboard.org/newsletter
Jul 07 19:06:42 <jmss> @jkridner: thanks. done.
Jul 07 19:20:05 <agmlego> rcn-ee: My mistake. I will correct that in my brain. Thanks!
Jul 07 20:15:48 <citylight2> rcn-ee: here?
Jul 07 21:33:53 <veremit> thought I saw his nick, citylight2 .. rcn-ee ?!
Jul 07 21:45:49 <popsch> Hi. I have a beaglebone rev a6, downloaded the angstrom image, dd'ed it onto the mmc0, but when I start the beaglebone, I only see CCCC. any ideas?
Jul 07 21:47:09 <veremit> try dd'ing your uSD again .. it's not 'seeing' the data
Jul 07 21:49:42 <popsch> I forgot to 'xz --decompress' the downloaded file :)
Jul 07 21:49:45 <popsch> trying it again
Jul 07 21:50:29 <veremit> lol
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