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Jul 24 03:18:20 <zmatt> huh, the dtc version the main dtc git repository doesn't have support for overlays? not even in a separate git branch?
Jul 24 03:18:35 <zmatt> overlays are mainline right now, right?
Jul 24 06:38:05 <krnlyng> when running the sgx_create_package.sh script from rcn-ee i get: "cannot execute binary file" any ideas? am i supposed to run this on x86?
Jul 24 06:47:57 <krnlyng> seems like it
Jul 24 06:53:11 <krnlyng> ok i have installed the drivers, but how do i get the GLES headers?
Jul 24 07:11:25 <Costin_> heloo
Jul 24 07:11:32 <Costin_> need some urgent help
Jul 24 07:11:37 <Costin_> i did something stupid
Jul 24 07:12:17 <Costin_> i have a BBB and i configured as usbproxy, so nothing connected to usb is actually sent to BBB
Jul 24 07:12:19 <LetoThe2nd> you sent your banking data to prince mbumba tse hgoye?
Jul 24 07:12:40 * tbr charges double rate for emergencies
Jul 24 07:12:42 <Costin_> i changed IP address from dhcp to static
Jul 24 07:13:08 <Costin_> and for some reason (i guess i misstyped broadcast address or semothing like that) i cannot connect to it
Jul 24 07:13:33 <tbr> Costin_: so connect over ethernet or the debug UART
Jul 24 07:14:03 <Costin_> i cannot connect over ethernet. i just told that i modified the ip address and i cannot connect
Jul 24 07:14:10 <LetoThe2nd> Costin_: long story short: you misconfigured the ip so badly you cant connect anymore.
Jul 24 07:14:16 <Costin_> how can i change the network file ?
Jul 24 07:14:22 <Costin_> yes
Jul 24 07:14:29 <LetoThe2nd> Costin_: either conenct through a debug cable, or boot of an sd card and change the file then.
Jul 24 07:14:32 <tbr> are you booting from emmc or from sd?
Jul 24 07:14:35 <Costin_> the whole system is on sd card
Jul 24 07:14:47 <tbr> put the card into a pc and mount it then
Jul 24 07:14:51 <LetoThe2nd> um then just put the card into your host machine and change it?
Jul 24 07:15:05 <Costin_> i did, but under windows it shows only the fat partition
Jul 24 07:15:14 <LetoThe2nd> Costin_: get a real os, then.
Jul 24 07:15:17 <tbr> get a linux machine...
Jul 24 07:15:45 <Costin_> it's not an option right now,  i;m under high time pressure and i don;t have time to install linux
Jul 24 07:15:57 <LetoThe2nd> well... too bad then.
Jul 24 07:16:06 <tbr> [x] you are screwed, have a nice day
Jul 24 07:16:21 <LetoThe2nd> what do you expect from us, magically fixing your sd card by a telepathic remote linux?
Jul 24 07:16:53 <Costin_> no, i wanted to know if there is a way to work on mmc from windows
Jul 24 07:16:56 <LetoThe2nd> maybe downloading some live linux distro can save you some time, but still you need a linux running to tinker with your ext filesystem.
Jul 24 07:17:02 <Costin_> to access the network file
Jul 24 07:17:23 <tbr> a livecd/liveusb would totally be sufficient
Jul 24 07:17:27 <Costin_> ok
Jul 24 07:17:29 <LetoThe2nd> or boot off the emmc, then insert the card, mount it, tinker...
Jul 24 07:17:30 <tbr> and the fastest
Jul 24 07:17:41 <LetoThe2nd> all the same in the end. you need a linux to modify the card.
Jul 24 07:17:48 <Costin_> what partition type does debian have ? i'm not familliar with debian distros
Jul 24 07:18:07 <LetoThe2nd> ?
Jul 24 07:18:20 <Costin_> or, better said: when i mount it under livecd, what partition type shall i use ?
Jul 24 07:18:30 <Costin_> mount -t ..... ?
Jul 24 07:18:43 <LetoThe2nd> why even give it a fs type manually?
Jul 24 07:18:49 <tbr> just "mount /dev/... /mnt"
Jul 24 07:19:22 <Costin_> there's no LVM or other surprises like that ?
Jul 24 07:19:37 <LetoThe2nd> usually not.
Jul 24 07:19:39 <Costin_> it's plain ext /xfs/reiserfs ?
Jul 24 07:19:44 <Costin_> ok
Jul 24 07:19:47 <Costin_> thanx
Jul 24 07:20:05 * LetoThe2nd gets a bit tired of repeating stuff someone who just cried "URGENT"
Jul 24 07:22:37 <tbr> meh, where do I send my invoice now!?
Jul 24 07:22:48 <LetoThe2nd> yeah :-/
Jul 24 07:31:51 <Costin_> fixed
Jul 24 07:31:53 <Costin_> thanx
Jul 24 07:32:02 <Costin_> one question still
Jul 24 07:32:23 <Costin_> i modified /etc/network/interfaces
Jul 24 07:32:45 <Costin_> with this config:
Jul 24 07:32:47 <Costin_> iface eth0 inet static         address 172.16.1.1         netmask 255.255.255.0         network 172.16.1.0         broadcast 172.16.1.255
Jul 24 07:33:02 <Costin_> but after reboot the interface doesn;t come up
Jul 24 07:33:21 <Costin_> what am i doing wrong ?
Jul 24 07:36:18 <Costin_> help ?
Jul 24 07:36:21 <Costin_> anyone ?
Jul 24 07:36:58 * LetoThe2nd would suspect that explicitly setting the broadcast is not necessary, and can't comment on the correctness of address/netmask for the rest of your setup
Jul 24 07:37:16 <LetoThe2nd> as usual, a debug cable would make your life considerably easier.
Jul 24 07:38:23 <LetoThe2nd> or taking care that the network over usb setup is ok, so you can connect. but, its windows again...
Jul 24 07:40:42 <Costin_> would you please give me a break with windows ? it has nothing to do with it. And no, i don;t and i can;t use USB debugging cable because my project uses USBProxy, which means that all USB traffic on slave interface is forwarded to USB host interface
Jul 24 07:41:19 <LetoThe2nd> then give us a break for you not having a proper dev setup, sorry.
Jul 24 07:41:22 <Costin_> but again, if you would listen, i solved the problem with modifying network config
Jul 24 07:41:38 <Costin_> i have only one problem, with interface not comming up
Jul 24 07:41:57 <LetoThe2nd> debug cable means a plain old serial connection to the bbb. it has nothing to do with usb. just for your reference.
Jul 24 07:42:06 <Costin_> and i just fixed by myself
Jul 24 07:42:17 <Costin_> thanx for nothing
Jul 24 07:43:16 <tbr> still no invoice address...
Jul 24 07:43:36 <KotH> .o0(doesnt like assholes before chocolate in the morning)
Jul 24 07:43:45 * LetoThe2nd goes into *plonk* mode and slithers off.
Jul 24 11:14:09 <davis> good morning
Jul 24 12:44:12 <Costin_> hello
Jul 24 12:45:06 <Costin_> i'm trying to connect to usb slave port on a BBB using python, in order to send some requests
Jul 24 12:45:34 <Costin_> how do i do that ? how do i identify that slave port ?
Jul 24 12:45:47 <Costin_> is it somewhere in /dev/* ?
Jul 24 12:47:04 <av500> you mean you connected a usb device to the BBB?
Jul 24 12:47:31 <Costin_> my project aims to do a USB Proxy: take everything ftom USB hub and forward it to USB slave port
Jul 24 12:47:50 <av500> in user space?
Jul 24 12:48:03 <Costin_> ?
Jul 24 12:48:08 <Costin_> what is that
Jul 24 12:48:25 <av500> it means "no as a kernel driver"
Jul 24 12:48:28 <av500> not*
Jul 24 12:48:34 <Costin_> BBB will be a man-in-the-middle between a host and a dot matrix printer
Jul 24 12:48:40 <Costin_> yes
Jul 24 12:48:48 <Costin_> not as a kernel driver
Jul 24 12:48:52 <av500> you have a usb dot matrix printer?
Jul 24 12:48:55 <Costin_> just a python script
Jul 24 12:49:00 <Costin_> yes
Jul 24 12:49:01 <av500> "just"
Jul 24 12:49:07 <Costin_> :)
Jul 24 12:49:27 <av500> its far from "just"
Jul 24 12:49:44 <Costin_> i need to capture traffic sent by a machine to a dot matrix printer and extract some data from it
Jul 24 12:50:00 <av500> http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2010_Projects/USBSniffer
Jul 24 12:50:03 <bradfa> Costin_, you could "just" use libusb and libusbg, and I assume python can hook in to those libraries but you might find it easier to write in C
Jul 24 12:50:21 <Costin_> the machine is very dumb, it has a windows CE 6.0 - based program
Jul 24 12:50:41 <Costin_> i tried to use USBProxy project from github, but it was a total failure
Jul 24 12:50:42 <davis> do you guys use yocto or buildroot for working with beaglebone?
Jul 24 12:50:55 <av500> most use debian
Jul 24 12:51:03 <av500> as in "ready made images"
Jul 24 12:51:09 <Costin_> it suposed to do what i needed, but somewhere it loses some descriptors
Jul 24 12:51:33 <davis> I've used buildroot in the past and I'm wondering who made the decision to go with yocto for this project.
Jul 24 12:51:37 <av500> ...This project is in the very early stages (alpha), it should be assumed that it is currently non-functional...
Jul 24 12:51:38 <Costin_> because the dumb machine doesn;t find the printer attached to BBB. Windows XP/7 does
Jul 24 12:51:57 <bradfa> davis, I'm pretty sure current BBB ship with debian and the "official" images are debian now
Jul 24 12:52:05 <davis> so when you say you use debian, how do you setup your cross compilers and such?
Jul 24 12:52:16 <Costin_> i found that
Jul 24 12:52:25 <Costin_> but gitorius doesn't exist anymore
Jul 24 12:52:33 <av500> ah right
Jul 24 12:52:39 <Costin_> and i didn't found the sources of that project
Jul 24 12:53:14 <av500> ds2: ^^^
Jul 24 12:53:14 <Costin_> anyway, i'm more familliar to python than C/C++
Jul 24 12:53:21 <av500> ds2: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2010_Projects/USBSniffer
Jul 24 12:53:23 <bradfa> davis, https://wiki.debian.org/CrossToolchains
Jul 24 12:53:26 <av500> ds2: would you still have a clone?
Jul 24 12:53:33 <Costin_> ?
Jul 24 12:53:38 <Costin_> clone of what ?
Jul 24 12:53:42 <av500> that repo
Jul 24 12:53:54 <av500> ds2 was the mentor for that project in 2010
Jul 24 12:53:56 <Costin_> in internet archive it doesn't exist
Jul 24 12:54:09 <av500> thats why i am asking ds2
Jul 24 12:54:13 <Costin_> i don;t have a clone
Jul 24 12:54:25 <Costin_> i just found about this project last week
Jul 24 12:54:35 <Costin_> and gitorious is dead from a lung time
Jul 24 12:54:42 <Costin_> *long
Jul 24 12:54:44 <av500> sigh
Jul 24 12:54:46 <av500> yes
Jul 24 12:54:47 <av500> I know
Jul 24 12:54:55 <bradfa> do you, av500? do you? :)
Jul 24 12:54:55 <av500> thats why I am asking ds2 if he has a clone still
Jul 24 12:55:08 <bradfa> av500, I don't think you understand
Jul 24 12:55:13 <Costin_> ouh, i thougth you were talking to me
Jul 24 12:55:35 <bradfa> davis, does that help?
Jul 24 12:56:02 <bradfa> davis, but yocto/poky, buildroot, and the official bbb debian images all should work fine for bbb
Jul 24 12:56:04 <Costin_> anyway, is that slave usb interface identified somehow in linux so that i can connect to it ?
Jul 24 12:56:07 <av500> Costin_: you might as Nicolas directly: http://www.boichat.ch/nicolas/
Jul 24 12:56:21 <davis> bradfa: kind of. brb need to restart
Jul 24 12:57:36 <Costin_> thanx, i'll try to get in touch with him
Jul 24 12:58:04 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=usb+gadgetfs
Jul 24 12:58:16 <av500> thats a way to access the "device" port
Jul 24 12:58:36 <av500> and you can use libusb to talk to a device connected to the host port
Jul 24 12:58:48 <av500> so you need to link libusb to gadgetfs
Jul 24 12:59:01 <bradfa> libusbg!
Jul 24 12:59:21 <av500> or that
Jul 24 12:59:23 <Costin_> libusbg ?
Jul 24 12:59:44 <Costin_> and gadgetfs is actually the host port ?
Jul 24 12:59:55 <av500> no
Jul 24 13:00:01 <Costin_> i compiled a kernel to include gadgetfs driver
Jul 24 13:00:03 <av500> gadgetfs is to access the device port
Jul 24 13:00:07 <av500> the micro-usb
Jul 24 13:00:16 <Costin_> ouh, yes, sorry
Jul 24 13:00:21 <Costin_> that's what i ment
Jul 24 13:01:18 <av500> I would guess https://github.com/dominicgs/USBProxy is a good starting point
Jul 24 13:01:20 <Costin_> and what i have to do is read all i get from USB hub (where the printer is connected) and forward it to gadgetfs ?
Jul 24 13:01:28 <av500> no
Jul 24 13:01:32 <av500> I doubt its that easy
Jul 24 13:01:48 <Costin_> :/
Jul 24 13:01:56 <av500> you have to setup the gadget interface to deliver the descriptors from the host port
Jul 24 13:02:08 <av500> I dont thinka dump pipe will work here
Jul 24 13:02:55 <av500> so I would say, you should enter the "read a lot about USB and Linux" phase of your project
Jul 24 13:05:43 <Costin_> i kinda did but there are a lot of empty spaces there....
Jul 24 13:05:50 <Costin_> i;m still learning
Jul 24 13:06:25 <Costin_> i found a python script that will get all descriptors from a connected device on USB
Jul 24 13:06:57 <Costin_> and i wanted to know how to pass those descriptors to microusb
Jul 24 13:07:28 <Costin_> that's why I asked about how to connect to microusb interface
Jul 24 13:08:07 <av500> see libusbg
Jul 24 13:08:15 <av500> for the device side
Jul 24 13:08:27 <nyo_> guys, I was hoping that having a serial - usb for beaglebone was an easy task, now I have the hardware but on the ubuntu version of BBB there is no module for the serial, weird. I think I'll switch back to amstrong or debian...
Jul 24 13:08:36 <av500> ?
Jul 24 13:10:48 <bradfa> nyo_, neil armstron is the best kind of amstrong
Jul 24 13:12:20 <nyo_> sorry angstrom
Jul 24 13:13:31 <bradfa> nyo_, why not just compile the kernel modules you don't have but want?
Jul 24 13:14:38 <nyo_> never done on BBB, will look that thx
Jul 24 13:16:57 <nyo_> so i have to install linux-headers of my kernel version then I will have /usr/src/linux right?
Jul 24 13:17:34 <nyo_> I usually use gentoo so I don't know well the packages of apt
Jul 24 13:39:39 <bradfa> nyo_, you should get the full kernel source, not just the headers, if you want to build modules which exist in the kernel
Jul 24 13:39:44 <davis> hello
Jul 24 14:17:05 <nyo_> I am able to do make menuconfig so I think I can go right?
Jul 24 14:33:00 <alecs> hello
Jul 24 14:33:18 <alecs> can i use beableboard black to flash a bios?
Jul 24 14:35:05 <KotH> it is theoretically possible to do so, but it is impossible for us to tell whether you can do this or not
Jul 24 14:56:17 <endoped> On 07/23/2015 03:47 PM, Corinna Wood wrote:
Jul 24 14:56:17 <endoped> > Hi Jake,
Jul 24 14:56:18 <endoped> >
Jul 24 14:56:18 <endoped> > I have received $500 in cash toward the balance due through the end of May. Just confirming that we're on the same page about where that leaves us:
Jul 24 14:56:20 <endoped> >> $450 remaining balance due up through end of May ($950 -$500=$450)
Jul 24 14:56:23 <endoped> >> $425 June rent & maintenance
Jul 24 14:56:25 <endoped> >> $425 July rent & maintenance
Jul 24 14:56:28 <endoped> >> $1300 total balance overdue
Jul 24 14:56:30 <endoped> >>
Jul 24 14:56:33 <endoped> >> We also have your $375 deposit, which will be refunded to you after you move out (assuming no damages, etc). And just to be clear, as you may recall, your "last month's" rent was "used up" last May, at the end of your 6 month lease, when you transitioned to month-to-month.
Jul 24 14:56:37 <endoped> >> Thanks~
Jul 24 14:56:39 <endoped> >> Corinna
Jul 24 14:56:42 <endoped> >>
Jul 24 14:56:44 <endoped> >>
Jul 24 14:56:47 <endoped> >> -------- Forwarded Message --------
Jul 24 14:56:49 <endoped> >> Subject: 	overdue rent & maintenance accounting
Jul 24 14:56:52 <endoped> >> Date: 	Sat, 30 May 2015 14:10:30 -0400
Jul 24 14:56:54 <endoped> >> From: 	Corinna Wood <cw@redmoonherbs.com>
Jul 24 14:56:57 <endoped> >> Reply-To: 	cw@redmoonherbs.com
Jul 24 14:56:59 <endoped> >> To: 	Jake Ferina <lespaul366@gmail.com>
Jul 24 14:57:02 <endoped> >> CC: 	Steve Torma <stevetorma@aol.com>, Lee Warren <leewarren@earthaven.org>
Jul 24 14:57:04 <endoped> >>
Jul 24 14:57:07 <endoped> >>
Jul 24 14:57:09 <endoped> >> Hi Jake,
Jul 24 14:57:12 <endoped> >>
Jul 24 14:57:14 <endoped> >> To be sure we're on the same page, I'm sending my accounting on rent and maintenance fees that are currently overdue, according to my records:
Jul 24 14:57:17 <endoped> >> $50 Jan maintenance (rent paid)
Jul 24 14:57:20 <endoped> >> $50 Feb maintenance (rent paid)
Jul 24 14:57:22 <endoped> >> $425 April rent & maintenance
Jul 24 14:57:25 <endoped> >> $425 May rent & maintenance
Jul 24 14:57:27 <endoped> >> $950 total (in addition to June's rent and maintenance fees)
Jul 24 14:57:35 <endoped> >>
Jul 24 14:57:35 <endoped> >> Thanks~
Jul 24 14:57:35 <endoped> >> Corinna
Jul 24 14:57:37 <endoped> >
Jul 24 14:57:40 <endoped> > --
Jul 24 14:57:42 <endoped> > Corinna Wood, Director, Southeast Wise Women www.sewisewomen.com
Jul 24 14:57:45 <endoped> whoops....sorry everyone
Jul 24 15:28:25 <KotH> +1 for public shaming
Jul 24 15:31:31 <endoped> haha...thanks
Jul 24 20:48:23 <zmatt> rcn-ee: not fair! not only do the automotive guys get to play with the 811x, they get to play with *toy cars* with the 811x! ( http://focus.ti.com/asia/download/2BJ_1-2.pdf last few slides)
Jul 24 21:04:05 <rcn-ee> they get all the fun stuf. ;)
Jul 24 21:11:09 <krnlyng> rcn-ee: i managed to install debian and the driver blobs using the script you sent me, but when i start my app eglGetDisplay(x11_display) fails (if i put EGL_DEFAULT_DISPLAY instead of the x11 display connection it does not fail but eglInitialize fails later), and all SDL apps i tried only produce a black screen, can this be resolved?
Jul 24 21:12:00 <thurgood> krnlyng: are you running from a console, or X11
Jul 24 21:12:32 <krnlyng> thurgood: x11
Jul 24 21:12:52 <thurgood> ah... the current drivers are for the frame buffer console
Jul 24 21:14:03 <thurgood> try swiching to a terminal instance and see if it still fails
Jul 24 21:15:16 <krnlyng> thurgood: eglInitialize still fails
Jul 24 21:15:58 <krnlyng> do i have to stop x`
Jul 24 21:16:00 <krnlyng> ?
Jul 24 21:16:03 <thurgood> are the drivers loaded?
Jul 24 21:16:22 <krnlyng> thurgood: how do i check that?
Jul 24 21:16:27 <thurgood> maybe.. not sure, I generally run without X11 to start with
Jul 24 21:16:34 <thurgood> sudo lsmod
Jul 24 21:17:26 <krnlyng> thurgood: g_multi, libcomposite, cpufreq_userspace, evdev and omap_rng are loaded
Jul 24 21:17:45 <thurgood> ok, then the drivers for egl are NOT loaded
Jul 24 21:18:02 <krnlyng> hm did i miss something during installation?
Jul 24 21:18:36 <thurgood> perhaps, or maybe it jsut didn't autostart the service when it installed
Jul 24 21:18:59 <rcn-ee> thurgood, did you do all these steps?
Jul 24 21:19:02 <rcn-ee> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#SGX_BeagleBone.2FBeagleBone_Black
Jul 24 21:19:29 <rcn-ee> i'm pretty sure your at: "Copy ./deploy/GFX_5.01.01.02.tar.gz to BeagleBone/BeagleBone Black and install"...
Jul 24 21:20:34 <krnlyng> ah yes i only did this step
Jul 24 21:22:12 <rcn-ee> Just do the first 3, (skip the sgx userspace as you already have "GFX_5.01.01.02.tar.gz") and follow the last install step..
Jul 24 21:22:16 <krnlyng> i tried the first step but ti-sgx-es8-modules-xenoami-r72 is not found
Jul 24 21:24:00 <thurgood> xenomai-r42, is that the correct kernel?
Jul 24 21:24:06 <rcn-ee> krnlyng, "3.8" is NOT an option... use 3.14.x or 4.1.x
Jul 24 21:24:28 <krnlyng> rcn-ee: hm, i used the debian image you linked me :(
Jul 24 21:24:42 <rcn-ee> krnlyng, uname -r ?
Jul 24 21:24:58 <thurgood> you need to update the kernel through apt, I believe
Jul 24 21:25:21 <krnlyng> 3.8.13-xenoami-r72
Jul 24 21:26:01 <rcn-ee> krnlyng, ah your grabbed the machinekit image... sorry grab the jessie lxqt or console images with 4.1.x...
Jul 24 21:26:12 <krnlyng> ok
Jul 24 21:26:14 <krnlyng> thanks again
Jul 25 02:09:12 <hinkley> hey, does anyone know what the default ethernet IP address is for the BBB? I can't get the TCP/IP over USB to work on my machine
Jul 25 02:10:00 <agmlego> If the Internet is correct, something like 192.168.7.2
Jul 25 02:12:45 <hinkley> That's what I suspected too, but no, that's only the address for TCP over USB.
Jul 25 02:13:30 <agmlego> Oh, you mean the actual Ethernet port.
Jul 25 02:14:11 <agmlego> Most sane distros set that to DHCP, and on a well-configured network, the bone should come up with the DHCP DNS name of beaglebone
Jul 25 02:14:19 <agmlego> At whatever your local domain is.
Jul 25 02:15:27 <agmlego> Personally, I just use PuTTY or screen to log into the machine's serial console, on the USB gagdet, and get the IP the usual ways.
Jul 25 02:16:31 <trevychase> if your router has an interface to log into, you should be able to see what's connected to it and their IPs
Jul 25 02:16:36 <hinkley> That would be great but as I said the USB doesn't work on my machine.
Jul 25 02:17:06 <hinkley> the instructions for OS X apparently don't work for the last 2 major revs, no answers in the forums.
Jul 25 02:17:19 <hinkley> I'll see if I can get an answer from my router, thanks.
Jul 25 02:18:35 <trevychase> installing OS X on the beaglebone?
Jul 25 02:19:14 <hinkley> No, the USB networking drivers listed in the Getting Started don't work on OS X and apparently haven't for a very long time.
Jul 25 02:19:36 <trevychase> ah
Jul 25 02:20:13 <hinkley> I'm a little confused why a device with an ethernet port on it is set up over a strange USB network bridge to begin with.  Seems like an odd decision.
Jul 25 02:27:07 <agmlego> hinkley: The bone shows you both a USB Ehternet device and a USB serial device. I was suggesting using the latter. There is a console there.
Jul 25 02:27:57 <agmlego> hinkley: The rationale for the USB Ethernet thing is that it makes it way easier to get started for folk who may not be coimfortable or able to poke around their network.
Jul 25 02:33:27 <hinkley> I don't know how else to try to get across than USB is a non-starter.
Jul 25 02:37:46 <hinkley> On yosemite they (I have 2, one new in the box) don't even show up on the USB hub as a device.
Jul 25 02:38:16 <agmlego> hinkley: That is helpful information that I was lacking.
Jul 25 02:38:57 <agmlego> Especially since, up to this point, you solely mentioned USB in context of the Ethernet device.
Jul 25 02:39:19 <agmlego> Note that you do not need Ethernet drivers for a serial device.
Jul 25 02:43:36 <zmatt> if they don't even show up as a device, there's more trouble than just a missing driver
Jul 25 02:43:47 <agmlego> Well, that too.
Jul 25 02:44:53 <zmatt> it seems one is generally advised to try a different usb hub in that case, the usb controller on the am335x has... ehm... rich personality
Jul 25 02:45:17 <zmatt> unique character
Jul 25 02:45:23 <zmatt> by which I mean it's buggy as shit
Jul 25 02:45:44 <zmatt> ;)
Jul 25 02:46:15 <hinkley> Unfortunately I have it plugged straight into the computer :/
Jul 25 02:46:33 <hinkley> I know one of these used to work.  It's possible the other one was DOA, I never got around to trying it out until just today.
Jul 25 02:47:10 <zmatt> well do leds turn on and start doing blinky blinky things when you apply power?
Jul 25 02:48:02 <hinkley> Oh hold on there..
Jul 25 02:48:33 <zmatt> hmm, is avahi installed on a default beaglebone install?
Jul 25 02:48:36 <hinkley> I plugged it into a wallwart and then moved the USB to a different socket and now it's complaining at me that I unplugged a drive without ejecting it.
Jul 25 02:49:00 <zmatt> that's odd though
Jul 25 02:49:22 <hinkley> It's mounting the boot device, probably can't do ethernet and filesystem at once eh?
Jul 25 02:49:41 <hinkley> (clarification:  I plugged the known good one in and this is what's happening)
Jul 25 02:49:50 <zmatt> appearing as a mass storage device is not a good sign
Jul 25 02:50:40 <zmatt> afaik that only happens as last resort fallback if the bootloader can't find anything resembling a bootable system
Jul 25 02:51:44 <zmatt> but the activity pattern of the leds when you apply power should then also give hints of that
Jul 25 02:53:03 <hinkley> No that's probably not a good sign.
Jul 25 02:53:10 <zmatt> there is an RNDIS driver for osx btw -> http://joshuawise.com/horndis
Jul 25 02:53:34 <hinkley> Okay.  The RNDIS guys for OS X have a version 7 on their website.  I installed that.  Unfortunately I can't state for sure if this behavior changed before or after.
Jul 25 02:54:00 <hinkley> But there's a newer version than is linked from the BB start guide and it claims to support Yosemite.  Might want to update the links.
Jul 25 02:54:30 <hinkley> I now have a BB NIC showing on my machine, at least for the known good BBB.
Jul 25 02:54:55 <zmatt> well if it boots and you have an ethernet network available with a dhcp server, like most people do, then I'd personally plug the BBB into ethernet rather than using ethernet-over-usb
Jul 25 02:55:45 <hinkley> Okay so you folks said something about the blinkenlights
Jul 25 02:56:36 <hinkley> brb.  Gonna restart and also find a screwdriver to crack open Unit #2
Jul 25 02:56:48 <zmatt> yes, besides the obvious power led, the four leds are turned on in sequence
Jul 25 02:57:05 <hinkley> (Unit 2 doesn't seem to show up when I plug it in, could actually be something wrong with it?)
Jul 25 02:57:24 <zmatt> you got them cased? and more specifically cased without being able to see the leds? :P
Jul 25 02:58:02 <zmatt> hard to say without knowing its previous history
Jul 25 02:58:06 <hinkley> I forget who makes it, it's a black metal case with a powder coat.  Little screws to hold the top half on.
Jul 25 02:58:29 <hinkley> Unit 2 was a Bday present, straight from Amazon, so new, but it's been sitting on my desk for 2 months.
Jul 25 02:59:51 * zmatt typically just gives beagles four leds to stand on
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