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Aug 06 06:05:11 <bbb85> clear
Aug 06 06:07:16 <bbb85> hello
Aug 06 08:29:47 <eballetbo> hi all, i build a c ledblink programa for the PRU, and now I'm trying to load with the program with pypruss, but I' getting "*** buffer overflow detected ***: python terminated"
Aug 06 08:29:51 <eballetbo> any clue on this ?
Aug 06 08:51:24 <angs> can I use a blackbone black image on blackbone white?
Aug 06 08:54:36 <KotH> black is the new beagle?
Aug 06 08:57:41 <angs> I guess so, I have white blackbones that I bought couple years ago, now I only find things for beaglebone black
Aug 06 08:58:09 <angs> I wonder if I can use them on beaglebone white
Aug 06 09:04:35 <julemand101> angs: try? :)
Aug 06 09:05:00 <julemand101> doubt you can destroy anything
Aug 06 09:09:50 <angs> julemand101, someone here might already know the answer which would save me a lot of time. Meanwhile, I can work on doing something else
Aug 06 09:10:08 <angs> if the device trees are different, I guess it shouldn't work
Aug 06 10:23:44 <peter___> Hi - I'm hoping to get PRU access from gcc - I've got a tine program that should initialise things, but it's saying that there are 'no input files'
Aug 06 10:23:54 <peter___> tiny
Aug 06 10:52:02 <KotH> peter___: you know how to compile a program?
Aug 06 10:53:41 <peter___> I'm hoping to use PRUSS from Gcc v 4.6.3,  Debian 4.6.3-14, Linux 3.8.13 - is that likely to work?
Aug 06 10:54:25 <KotH> the PRU does not have anything to do with the compiler you use, or the distro
Aug 06 10:54:43 <KotH> and that's not the answer to the question i've asked either
Aug 06 10:54:55 <KotH> again: do you know how to compile a program?
Aug 06 10:55:16 <peter___> KotH - I'm looking at what seems to be a script to run from the Linux command line at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/gqCjxh4uZi0/_uIUD8ZF88QJ
Aug 06 10:56:06 <peter___> KotH - sorry, I got out of sync with you. Yes, I do know how to write and  compile C
Aug 06 10:56:26 <KotH> good
Aug 06 10:56:37 <KotH> how much do you know about linux in general and embedded linux specifically?
Aug 06 10:59:06 <peter___> I've been using C running under Unix  for years. Gcc is new to me but I can get it to work. Embedded Linux is new
Aug 06 10:59:15 <KotH> ok..
Aug 06 10:59:23 <KotH> i guess, you are comming from solaris, then?
Aug 06 11:00:09 <KotH> if you dont have a copy the "embedded linux primer" get that
Aug 06 11:00:27 <KotH> the distro you are using does not matter at all
Aug 06 11:00:41 <KotH> what matters is that you are using the right kernel version with the right configuration
Aug 06 11:01:32 <KotH> a good place to start with PRU is http://mythopoeic.org/bbb-pru-minimal/
Aug 06 11:02:01 <KotH> but be aware that the capemanager is gone (though might return at some point)
Aug 06 11:02:23 <KotH> the other good place to read is http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2
Aug 06 11:02:39 <KotH> and i think that's even up to date
Aug 06 11:04:32 <peter___> OK. I'll look at that. You said that the distro doesn't matter - but we're writing in GCC C and we'd like to use the hooks into PRUSS  - cf http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2
Aug 06 11:06:51 <peter___> we think alike :) The script I'm trying to run to initialise PRU is mentioned there in a link
Aug 06 11:18:25 <KotH> gcc is just a compiler. c is c
Aug 06 11:19:22 <KotH> and unlike commercial compilers it is even mostly sane
Aug 06 11:25:50 <simha> HI good evng to all !!!
Aug 06 11:26:12 <simha> Any one can help me
Aug 06 11:26:36 <simha> about yocto linphone support
Aug 06 11:26:49 <simha> for beaglebone
Aug 06 11:27:11 <simha> thank you ..
Aug 06 11:33:56 <tbr> uh, what?
Aug 06 11:36:19 <KotH> tbr: the correct answer would be either "bingo!" or "gesundheit!"
Aug 06 11:36:42 <ogra_> gesundheit is always good, i'd take that
Aug 06 11:36:43 * tbr hands KotH some swiss chocolate
Aug 06 11:36:57 <KotH> thanks!
Aug 06 12:10:12 <Rotti> hi
Aug 06 13:56:44 <chapium> i cannot help, but ask away...
Aug 06 14:06:00 <chapium> hi all, I have loaded bone-debian-7.8-lxde-4gb-armhf-2015-03-01-4gb.img on to microsd.  it boots up just fine with user boot, but I cannot boot to this image without holding the user boot button.  Is it possible to install and boot from this image on the onboard storage?
Aug 06 14:09:02 <wmat> chapium: you need the equivalent flasher image
Aug 06 14:10:28 <chapium> wmat: ok, I believe I have found it
Aug 06 14:11:45 <chapium> since I'm already booted up, is it possible to flash the emmc from my beaglebone if I were to download it
Aug 06 14:14:15 <wmat> chapium: i'm not sure if you can turn a non-flasher image into a flasher image. Try the mailing list for that one. Robert will know, as he builds those images.
Aug 06 14:17:29 <chapium> ok,ty
Aug 06 17:27:20 <davbren> hi
Aug 06 17:35:47 <Ragnorok_> davbren: If you have a question just toss it out there.  If no-one responds they either don't know, or are too busy.  In my case it'll be the former - I don't know.  Only had a BBB for a week.
Aug 06 17:48:20 <[Butch]> Quick Cloud9 question: Has anyone seen a continuous stream of "bad session name: devel.XXX" messages when opening a new terminal?
Aug 06 17:48:42 <rcn-ee> [Butch], your tmux is too old...
Aug 06 17:48:56 <rcn-ee> or i mean, cloud9 is too old and tmux is too new..
Aug 06 17:49:26 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Cool.  What's the best way to fix that?  Is there an updater for C9?
Aug 06 17:49:43 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: It's not controlled by opkg, is it?
Aug 06 17:49:43 <rcn-ee> [Butch], which base os? cat /etc/dogtag
Aug 06 17:50:39 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: BeagleBoard.org BeagleBone Debian Image 2014-05-14
Aug 06 17:52:38 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: tmux is 1.9
Aug 06 17:53:07 <rcn-ee> [Butch], follow these instructions to get the newer repo (repos.rcn-ee.com) http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#W:_GPG_error:_http:.2F.2Fdebian.beagleboard.org_wheezy-bbb
Aug 06 17:55:21 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: At which bit should I be looking?
Aug 06 17:56:21 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: 2014-05-14 GPG error: Optional enable: http://repos.rcn-ee.com/ ????
Aug 06 17:56:29 <rcn-ee> [Butch], all 3 sub catagories "2014-05-14 GPG error"
Aug 06 17:56:53 <rcn-ee> the final one will allow you to install c9-core-installer and get a newer cloud9..
Aug 06 17:58:35 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: I had already added the repos, but I guess I hadn't updated c9.
Aug 06 17:58:45 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Thanks for pointing that out!
Aug 06 17:59:24 <rcn-ee> [Butch], no problem, (i also just updated the page about 2 minutes ago and added "c9-core-installer")
Aug 06 18:04:07 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: E: Unable to locate package c9-core-installer
Aug 06 18:05:02 <rcn-ee> do you have the repos.rcn-ee.com enabled? https://rcn-ee.com/repos/debian/pool/main/c/c9-core-installer/
Aug 06 18:05:37 <[Butch]> deb [arch=armhf] http://repos.rcn-ee.com/debian wheezy main
Aug 06 18:05:37 <[Butch]> #deb-src [arch=armhf] http://repos.rcn-ee.com/debian wheezy main
Aug 06 18:07:18 <rcn-ee> is it complaining about cloud9-installer:  sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get remove cloud9-installer ; sudo apt-get install  c9-core-installer
Aug 06 18:07:32 <rcn-ee> (cloud9-installer was the old 'closed' source branch)
Aug 06 18:10:29 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Thank you.  I'm updating now and will uninstall the original package and install the new package.
Aug 06 18:11:20 <[Butch]> I also have another question about running bonescript programs from the command line.  I apparently can't figure out the right chicken dance to do to get it to work.
Aug 06 18:12:29 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Uninstall failed -- package not installed.  Proceeding to install new package.  :-)
Aug 06 18:45:22 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: The installer is finished, and it looks like it installed cleanly.  However, I wasn't able to bring up C9.  I'm rebooting and will try it again.
Aug 06 18:46:29 <rcn-ee> [Butch], yeah you need to reboot... haven't figured out how to "reset" systemd socket..
Aug 06 18:47:20 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: OK, that seems to be better.  Please refresh my memory as to where the port that it listens on is configured.  I need to move it back to port 9000 (3000 is usually used by Ruby on Rails).
Aug 06 18:47:43 <rcn-ee> the cloud9.socket file..
Aug 06 18:49:06 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Which directory does that live in, please?
Aug 06 18:49:20 <rcn-ee> /lib/systemd/system/
Aug 06 18:50:38 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Merci mult!
Aug 06 18:50:54 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Once this reboots, perhaps we can takle my other problem, please?
Aug 06 18:51:11 <[Butch]> tackle, even
Aug 06 18:53:47 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Cool, now I have a working terminal in C9 again.  :-)  Thank you!
Aug 06 18:54:20 <[Butch]> rcn-ee: Now, back to the command line running of bonescripts problem.
Aug 06 18:54:52 <[Butch]> If I create a generic bonescript file in some random directory and try to run it, I immediately get a message that it can't find the library to include.
Aug 06 18:55:10 <[Butch]> Presumably I can fix this by setting NODE_PATH, correct?
Aug 06 18:55:16 <rcn-ee> yeap..
Aug 06 18:55:57 <rcn-ee> export NODE_PATH=/usr/local/lib/node_modules
Aug 06 18:56:13 <rcn-ee> `. /etc/profile.d/node.sh` should also do that..
Aug 06 18:56:48 <[Butch]> Great, I got that far yesterday.
Aug 06 18:57:03 <[Butch]> However, when I try to do something that involves GPIO, I get errors.  For example:
Aug 06 18:57:14 <[Butch]> NODE_PATH=/usr/local/lib/node_modules node simple_flow_sensor_test.js
Aug 06 18:57:25 <[Butch]>             if(slot[0]) {
Aug 06 18:57:26 <[Butch]>                    ^
Aug 06 18:57:27 <[Butch]> TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of null
Aug 06 18:57:40 <[Butch]> Hmmmm, let me gist that.
Aug 06 18:57:47 <rcn-ee> are you root? ;)
Aug 06 18:58:37 <[Butch]> Oh frack, that's it.
Aug 06 18:58:48 <[Butch]> Sorry, my bad.
Aug 06 18:58:49 <[Butch]> I'm an idiot.
Aug 06 19:03:49 <[Butch]> rcn-ee:  Thank you!!!!!
Aug 06 20:07:09 <cityLights> rcn-ee dnsmasq serves dhcp to eth0
Aug 06 20:08:34 <cityLights> we need to add this line to /opt/scripts/boot/autoconfigure_usb0.sh :
Aug 06 20:08:48 <cityLights> except-interface=eth0
Aug 06 20:09:37 <cityLights> below except-interfacelo
Aug 06 20:09:40 <cityLights> below except-interface=lo
Aug 06 20:19:41 <rcn-ee> cityLights, pushed! thanks
Aug 06 20:21:43 <cityLights> by the way in figuring this out, I cause my firms network to go nuts
Aug 06 20:22:40 <cityLights> I am seeking advice to connect 4 sensors 20m away from my BBB
Aug 06 20:23:18 <cityLights> I consider using CAN bus for this
Aug 06 20:27:04 <alexanderhiam> are they CAN sensors?
Aug 06 21:45:29 <[Butch]> cityLights: CAN you do it?
Aug 06 21:50:43 <tlab> cityLights, you would need to convert the signals to canbus with a module or some sort, or you would need canbus sensors
Aug 06 22:01:57 <cityLights> tlab can you give an example of canbus sensors?
Aug 06 22:02:37 <tlab> I've used pressure and temp canbus sensors
Aug 06 22:02:49 <tlab> they can be hard to find and expensive
Aug 06 22:03:01 <cityLights> any url?
Aug 06 22:03:08 <tlab> 300+ for pressure sensor
Aug 06 22:03:43 <tlab> just google canbus pressure sensor
Aug 06 22:03:49 <cityLights> ok
Aug 06 22:04:08 <cityLights> I seek to sense an open-collector pulses
Aug 06 22:04:28 <tlab> so you want analog or digital input
Aug 06 22:04:44 <tlab> you will need a module that converts input to canbus signal
Aug 06 22:04:59 <cityLights> you mean a cpu?
Aug 06 22:05:08 <cityLights> controller
Aug 06 22:05:10 <tlab> yeah, cpu of some sort
Aug 06 22:05:14 <tlab> like a BBB
Aug 06 22:05:27 <cityLights> BBB  is expensive ..
Aug 06 22:05:29 <tlab> so you could use two BBB with canbus to comunicate
Aug 06 22:05:47 <tlab> BBB is cheap compared to commerical stuff
Aug 06 22:09:06 <tlab> probably a better cheaper way than canbus
Aug 06 22:11:44 <tlab> cityLights, maybe this will help? http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/55274/transmitting-5v-signal-over-a-long-cable
Aug 06 22:34:19 <cityLights> thanks tlab
Aug 07 00:54:49 <zmatt> BBB expensive? o.O   BBB is ridiculously dirt cheap
Aug 07 00:55:24 <veremit> its double the price of a pi .. :p
Aug 07 00:55:52 <veremit> but its pretty good value :)
Aug 07 01:01:23 <zmatt> pi and bbb are both implausibly cheap
Aug 07 01:03:36 <veremit> yes
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