**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 04 02:59:58 2015 Sep 04 14:04:52 Hiii bbb users Sep 04 14:04:54 need help Sep 04 14:05:16 i m trying to create bbb firewall Sep 04 14:05:27 and would like your help with few things Sep 04 14:05:56 first would like to know the basic for configuring bbb as an access point Sep 04 14:07:41 also how to dail up internet from bbb ubuntu os to my isp Sep 04 14:13:57 can any1 help me?? Sep 04 14:16:52 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ? Sep 04 15:50:17 i am new, got my BBB a few days ago, and am checking out all the getting started things Sep 04 15:50:28 and about "installing latest software" Sep 04 15:50:56 in all hte guides and wiki pages i found about that, it always talks about how to install the latest version, but never hwo to check which version you alreayd have Sep 04 15:51:08 should that not always be the first step? Sep 04 15:52:11 and second: on the download pages for the OS images, there is one debian image and "older" angstrom images Sep 04 15:52:21 does this mean, debian is now the default? Sep 04 15:53:05 if yes, why are all the guides still mentioning angstrom as the default, and if not, why is the images download page made like this, that debian seems to be the new default now? Sep 04 15:53:36 debian is the newest Sep 04 15:53:55 new images are here https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/ Sep 04 15:54:38 so.. is that the new default now? Sep 04 15:54:48 and angstrom is deprecated (for BBB)? Sep 04 15:55:18 hoijui, angstrom's been depreated for bbb for almost 2 years ago... (no active developer) Sep 04 15:55:19 or is just the debian image the latest released one, but there will be newer angstrom ones in the future Sep 04 15:55:25 aha... Sep 04 15:55:31 thanks Sep 04 15:55:55 maybe that should be made obvious on the wikis and on hte site then Sep 04 15:55:56 the maintainer of angstrom left circuitco and works for linaro now... Sep 04 15:56:08 mmmmm Sep 04 15:56:13 hoijui, there's 100's of wiki's... Sep 04 15:56:37 would be good if the beagleboard website linked directly to new images Sep 04 15:56:48 or link to the directory with new images Sep 04 15:56:59 tlab it does: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Sep 04 15:57:15 which takes you too: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian Sep 04 15:57:38 (just because it's in https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/ doesn't mean it's fully tested, you need to wait for me to update that elinux reference. ;) ) Sep 04 15:57:52 oh Sep 04 15:58:30 it would be good if i could see on one page, or at least on two different ones, which is my current OS+version, and which is the latest one Sep 04 15:58:35 behind the scenes, it's a automaticly weekly cron job, still need me to fire test it on a board monday morning. (that's when i update the elinux page) Sep 04 15:58:41 in the same format, 1:1 comparable Sep 04 15:59:17 somethign like that green box that sais "Your BBB is connected..." Sep 04 15:59:26 hoijui, it's a rolling type release: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder/commits/master Sep 04 15:59:40 current version coudl be shown on http://192.168.7.2, and latest on http://beagleboard.org/getting-started Sep 04 16:00:06 ahh... that was an other question... Sep 04 16:00:22 what if i update with apt-get all the time Sep 04 16:00:36 is there still a need to flash new releases with the SD card? Sep 04 16:00:47 hoijui, that would be great, fork this project: https://github.com/beagleboard/bone101 ( you need to dump /etc/dogtag to the web page) Sep 04 16:00:55 that is also not explained on the getting started/update to latest version page Sep 04 16:01:19 hoijui, 95% of time apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade is all you need.. Sep 04 16:01:29 ok :D Sep 04 16:02:15 a couple of the project we add to the image, however need tweaks.. (for example npm install bonescript, needed a few script changes), so the script to generate the image needed changes.. Sep 04 16:02:26 but as long as it is not 100%, i still have to flash, basically, when there is a new image Sep 04 16:02:28 but in the end the image is the same.. Sep 04 16:02:43 mmm Sep 04 16:03:05 so you only make a new release if tweaks are needed that can not be done through apt-get? Sep 04 16:03:19 rcn-ee, so 2015-03-01 is the latest good image? Sep 04 16:03:39 hoijui, correct.. i "only" update: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Releases when "apt-get isn't" enough... Sep 04 16:03:53 ok Sep 04 16:04:03 for example that's why there is a "2015-07-28" wheezy release over "2015-03-01" now. ;) Sep 04 16:04:15 mmm Sep 04 16:05:49 (and i should bump the wheezy release again, as it needs a new kernel to fully support the green "properly" instead of the hack in 0728.. ;)) Sep 04 16:06:04 ok so if one were to include such a thing, showing current and latest version on a page, how wold one do that? i guess with fetching all files in the latest images url for latest, and running a shell command for current? Sep 04 16:06:36 with bonescript? Sep 04 16:07:47 i'd just use bash/wget and scrape: https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/release/ & https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/testing/ ;) Sep 04 16:08:07 and for current? Sep 04 16:08:29 how to find out on bash? Sep 04 16:08:43 so "https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/release/" is always tested (i manually move it there) just use the latest "date stamp" Sep 04 16:09:14 ah yeah.. maybe could show all three then. currently installed, latest stable, latest testing Sep 04 16:09:52 is there no mention on the BBB of which image was flashed (last)? Sep 04 16:09:52 I must be missing something obvious: I have a BBB. Which port belongs to which gpio port? Sep 04 16:09:54 btw, "testing" = jessie + 4.1 kernel... where for most users "currently installed/latest stable" = wheezy + 3.8 kernel Sep 04 16:10:36 hoijui, cat /etc/dogtag Sep 04 16:11:51 ahhh thanks :D yeah you mentioned that before, i somehow though it was related to somethign else Sep 04 16:23:13 what is the difference between these: Sep 04 16:23:17 bone-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28-2gb.img.xz Sep 04 16:23:17 debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28.tar.xz Sep 04 16:23:31 is the second sources? Sep 04 16:24:51 hoijui, i generate bone-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28-2gb.img.xz from debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28.tar.xz ;) Sep 04 16:25:29 ok Sep 04 16:26:22 bone= bbw/bbg/bbb, 2gb = 2gb sd card size, base console image.. Sep 04 16:26:24 scraping https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/release/, it should be easy to get the date of the latest release, but what about further info, like that it is debian, for example Sep 04 16:27:39 i look in console/ and then i take only *.img.* files, and from those i remove the ones with BBB- in front and then.. what? Sep 04 16:27:53 is that goign to be a robst mechnaism (over years)? Sep 04 16:28:25 well, it's been a robst format for a few years now... Sep 04 16:28:47 the biggest change was the addition of *.bmap images, so users can use bmaptools instead of the slow dd.. Sep 04 16:29:00 ok.. Sep 04 16:29:35 but always filter out the "blank" those are for cm's.. Sep 04 16:30:01 then the "bbb-emmc-flasher" there's a 2gb and 4gb version.. (4gb is for rev c +) Sep 04 16:30:49 ook Sep 04 16:37:30 have to leave.. thanks! and will try to fiddle wit the page **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 05 02:59:58 2015