**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 10 02:59:59 2015
Nov 10 03:40:41 <ds2> 9/j ##stm32
Nov 10 06:04:51 <Set_> I figured out what I did. I somehow downloaded the Debian system to a card by accident and the board only works if the SD card is in the slot.
Nov 10 06:05:02 <Set_> On my BBB...
Nov 10 06:05:27 <Set_> I thought I was downloading Wyliodrin.com's way of Linux to use their site.
Nov 10 06:05:36 <Set_> Oops. I cannot tell you what exactly happened.
Nov 10 06:06:15 <Set_> On a good note: The board works if the SD card is installed.
Nov 10 06:06:38 <Set_> I even got my hands on the new Adafruit_BBIO library.
Nov 10 06:06:53 <Set_> I did not think I could figure it out but their site has some ideas on it.
Nov 10 06:07:41 <Set_> Now...I just have to wait for Xively.com to reply. I need to use their software to finish a project.
Nov 10 06:11:42 <Set_> Does anyone know how to use Flask well?
Nov 10 06:12:17 <Set_> I can understand the ping from my board to Jinja2 and back...
Nov 10 06:12:20 <Set_> That is about all.
Nov 10 06:20:09 <Set_> How do I check to see how much memory is left on my board?
Nov 10 06:20:23 <Set_> via prompt on PuTTY?
Nov 10 06:31:15 <Set_> Okay...I figured out memory on my board. I went to the Debian Wiki.
Nov 10 06:31:28 <Set_> It is "free" and that shows just how much is used and left...
Nov 10 06:35:15 <Set_> I checked Flask on Debian.org.
Nov 10 06:35:51 <Set_> There is not a lot of info. but there are some ideas/differences from Mako and Jinja2
Nov 10 06:36:26 <Set_> Jinja2 can be found at Jinja2.pocoo.org.
Nov 10 06:36:55 <Set_> I read on it. I do not get it "for now."
Nov 10 06:37:18 <Set_> I guess that is it. It serves a purpose.
Nov 10 06:46:15 <Set_> It says those Instagram people use it.
Nov 10 06:46:27 <Set_> That is popular now. I am sure it must do something great.
Nov 10 06:46:33 <Set_> I will look into this further.
Nov 10 06:47:58 <Set_> I found out about Flask and Jinja2. Now...I need to use it, abuse it, and fuse it (or something).
Nov 10 06:48:14 <Set_> ...
Nov 10 06:48:59 <Set_> I want to use it to application via "THE INTERNET."
Nov 10 06:49:23 <Set_> Not "to application" but as an application.
Nov 10 06:49:29 <Set_> oops.
Nov 10 06:50:04 <Set_> Does anyone know how to get Flask on Debian?
Nov 10 06:50:15 <Set_> apt-get install Flask maybe?
Nov 10 06:51:04 <Set_> "pip" does not work on my machine for some reason.
Nov 10 06:51:31 <uavvcam> search the package index. you will find python-flask
Nov 10 06:51:48 <Set_> thank you...how do I search the package index?
Nov 10 06:52:21 <Set_> I mean...my packages are not shown on my board.
Nov 10 06:52:33 <Set_> I checked...I do not know what packages I currently hold.
Nov 10 06:52:59 <uavvcam> apt search whatever
Nov 10 06:53:10 <Set_> I typed, "cd Desktop."
Nov 10 06:53:20 <Set_> then...I typed, "ls."
Nov 10 06:53:23 <Set_> Oh...okay.
Nov 10 06:53:25 <Set_> Thank you.
Nov 10 06:54:03 <uavvcam> apt search flask
Nov 10 06:54:05 <uavvcam> for example
Nov 10 06:54:07 <Set_> I do not currently have that one.
Nov 10 06:54:12 <Set_> I just checked.
Nov 10 06:54:28 <Set_> I will have to type apt-get Flask most likely.
Nov 10 06:54:48 <Set_> I was reading on it at Debian.org.
Nov 10 06:54:54 <uavvcam> no the package is calles python-flask
Nov 10 06:54:59 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 06:55:03 <Set_> Thank you.
Nov 10 06:55:04 <uavvcam> apt-get python flask
Nov 10 06:55:09 <Set_> Augh...
Nov 10 06:55:11 <uavvcam> python-flask...
Nov 10 06:55:16 <Set_> Awesome!
Nov 10 06:55:37 <Set_> I will be right back to let you know what happens.
Nov 10 06:56:37 <Set_> invalid operation.
Nov 10 06:56:40 <Set_> Dang it!
Nov 10 06:56:50 <uavvcam> apt-get install python flask
Nov 10 06:56:56 <Set_> I will check that now.
Nov 10 06:56:58 <uavvcam> thats the whole command line
Nov 10 06:57:06 <Set_> Augh...I am getting slow again.
Nov 10 06:57:12 <Set_> Okay...be right back.
Nov 10 06:58:13 <Set_> Unable to locate package flask.
Nov 10 06:58:16 <Set_> Dang it!
Nov 10 06:58:43 <uavvcam> sorry... i'm a bit sleepy :) apt-get install python-flask
Nov 10 06:58:44 <Set_> I think Debian.org is in the works of picking one or the other, i.e. Mako or Jinja2.
Nov 10 06:58:52 <Set_> I tried that.
Nov 10 06:59:06 <Set_> I will try that again.
Nov 10 06:59:44 <zmatt> "apt-cache search", not "apt search"
Nov 10 06:59:49 <Set_> unable to find python-flask
Nov 10 06:59:50 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:01:05 <zmatt> and it's a good idea to run "apt-get update" first in case your package index files are out of date (especially if it's been more than a few days since you last ran it)
Nov 10 07:01:05 <Set_> Um...there were four things that came up.
Nov 10 07:01:17 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 07:01:53 <zmatt> I do see python-flask and python3-flask
Nov 10 07:01:53 <Set_> Yea...my apt-get update fails now.
Nov 10 07:02:14 <Set_> It shows "failed to fetch."
Nov 10 07:02:21 <zmatt> does your BBB have internet?
Nov 10 07:02:28 <Set_> I looked on the Wiki.
Nov 10 07:02:30 <Set_> Yes.
Nov 10 07:02:34 <Set_> via USB.
Nov 10 07:02:47 <Set_> and PuTTY.
Nov 10 07:02:56 <zmatt> that's not the same as the BBB having internet
Nov 10 07:03:00 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:03:02 <Set_> Dang it.
Nov 10 07:03:14 <zmatt> you can reach the BBB
Nov 10 07:03:15 <Set_> I can get online if that is necessary.
Nov 10 07:03:20 <Set_> I just have to connect all that stuff.
Nov 10 07:03:24 <zmatt> but the BBB can't see beyond your computer
Nov 10 07:03:35 <Set_> Damn. I bet you that is it.
Nov 10 07:03:59 <zmatt> unless you enable internet sharing or something and perform some config on the BBB... but sticking in ethernet is simpler
Nov 10 07:04:11 <Set_> Okay...
Nov 10 07:04:40 <Set_> Hey...did you see where I typed that my board only works if the SD card is in the slot?
Nov 10 07:05:03 <Set_> That is the only way I get it to work these days.
Nov 10 07:05:07 <zmatt> is it booting from SD or eMMC?  I know in some situations an issue exists with locating the rootfs
Nov 10 07:05:21 <uavvcam> apt search and apt-cache search should give the same results @zmatt
Nov 10 07:05:37 <Set_> SD
Nov 10 07:05:57 <Set_> My Internet is out on my BBB for some reason.
Nov 10 07:06:05 <zmatt> uavvcam: ohey... that's semi-new or something
Nov 10 07:06:19 <zmatt> uavvcam: not quite the same results... they're differently (better) formatted
Nov 10 07:06:23 <Set_> It is back on. Awesome!
Nov 10 07:06:49 <Set_> I like when I can work less and then have things work.
Nov 10 07:07:11 <Set_> Okay...so. I got the Adafruit_BBIO with my computer and it was not connected via ethernet.
Nov 10 07:07:19 <zmatt> uavvcam: it never made sense to me to have two different progs but I've been used to it since Ye Olde Days or something
Nov 10 07:08:31 <uavvcam> they say there is a third one :o aptitude search would give the same results they say...
Nov 10 07:08:51 <Set_> I cannot do a damn thing. Sheesh.
Nov 10 07:09:16 <zmatt> on my laptop I use aptitude all the time, but it's already slow as fuck on my laptop, aptitude is pretty much unbearable on a BBB
Nov 10 07:09:19 <Set_> Okay...for a newbie with an updated system on SD card only, can I just plug in my Ethernet to the board and be online?
Nov 10 07:09:25 <zmatt> normally yes
Nov 10 07:09:41 <zmatt> define "updated system" ?   cat /etc/dogtag
Nov 10 07:09:56 <Set_> Okay...please hold.
Nov 10 07:10:17 <Set_> 2015/3/1
Nov 10 07:10:29 <zmatt> ok, so a very old but not ancient version
Nov 10 07:10:35 <Set_> Old?
Nov 10 07:10:40 <zmatt> march
Nov 10 07:10:42 <Set_> That is as far as I can update.
Nov 10 07:10:52 <zmatt> ah, ok
Nov 10 07:11:01 <Set_> Have you been to there Wiki for the BBB and Debian?
Nov 10 07:11:18 <zmatt> I thought you downloaded a fresh image
Nov 10 07:11:24 <Set_> There is a complication with their update now. They have a fix but the fix does not work.
Nov 10 07:11:54 <Set_> I did...I think this is a Wyliodrin.com image used.
Nov 10 07:12:15 <Set_> I am not completely sure what I did. I thought it was a solid Debian image.
Nov 10 07:12:17 <zmatt> never heard of it
Nov 10 07:12:29 <Set_> It is just some site for the Galileo2.
Nov 10 07:12:31 <zmatt> if it's a freshly downloaded image, then 2015/3/1 is very ikd
Nov 10 07:12:37 <zmatt> *old
Nov 10 07:12:39 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:12:45 <Set_> Are there other updates?
Nov 10 07:12:47 <zmatt> latest stable image is 2015-11-03
Nov 10 07:12:51 <zmatt> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2015-11-03
Nov 10 07:12:51 <Set_> Damn!
Nov 10 07:13:24 <Set_> I see now.
Nov 10 07:13:32 <zmatt> latest testin image is... yesterday
Nov 10 07:13:32 <Set_> Back to the old drawing board.
Nov 10 07:13:36 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:13:36 <zmatt> *testing
Nov 10 07:13:47 <zmatt> so take your pick ;)
Nov 10 07:14:18 <Set_> Okay...
Nov 10 07:14:45 <Set_> So, if I was to use my board to update a fresh image, can I get the image from 11/2015?
Nov 10 07:14:53 <zmatt> the stable images are still wheezy ?!?!
Nov 10 07:15:01 <zmatt> wtf
Nov 10 07:15:04 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:15:07 <Set_> Okay. Sorry.
Nov 10 07:15:11 <zmatt> sorry
Nov 10 07:15:15 <Set_> Ha.
Nov 10 07:15:15 <veremit> zmatt.. ofc.
Nov 10 07:15:24 <veremit> only RN's images are recent
Nov 10 07:15:34 <veremit> probably still 3.8 kernel too!
Nov 10 07:15:38 <veremit> or did they go up to a newer ti
Nov 10 07:15:42 <zmatt> veremit: released 7 days ago
Nov 10 07:15:46 <zmatt> doesn't rcn also make the stable images?
Nov 10 07:15:52 <veremit> yea the 11/2013 ones
Nov 10 07:15:58 <zmatt> he does
Nov 10 07:16:02 <zmatt> they're on his site
Nov 10 07:16:04 <veremit> I -think- so .. but I bet he's leaned on
Nov 10 07:16:18 <Set_> I have a couple of other questions. Do I use PuTTY to go the web address
Nov 10 07:16:18 <zmatt> but wtf, even debian themselves call wheezy obsolete
Nov 10 07:16:19 * veremit blames jkdridner
Nov 10 07:16:52 <veremit> zmatt.. just got ur on bleeding edge-unstable
Nov 10 07:16:54 <zmatt> Set_: so, you can use the "stable" images and get an ancient version of debian with LXDE (unless you use the console version)
Nov 10 07:17:00 <zmatt> veremit: I use stretch actually
Nov 10 07:17:01 <Set_> i.e. https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/release/2015-07-28/console/bone-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-07-28-2gb.img.xz
Nov 10 07:17:13 <veremit> zmatt.. you'd be building from git if you coul dbe bothered :P
Nov 10 07:17:36 <zmatt> Set_: beware that console images are very minimalistic and do not e.g. enable usb-networking by default
Nov 10 07:17:42 <veremit> and svn and vcs etc etc, gawd that'd be a nightmare lol
Nov 10 07:17:47 <zmatt> veremit: no thanks
Nov 10 07:17:50 <Set_> That image states that they do.
Nov 10 07:18:08 <Set_> It also says that it will work with the BBG.
Nov 10 07:18:16 <zmatt> Set_: also, why are you linking to that old image?
Nov 10 07:18:19 <veremit> yeah my ancient image has the usb net enabled
Nov 10 07:18:23 <Set_> It is old?
Nov 10 07:18:25 <Set_> Dang it.
Nov 10 07:18:27 <zmatt> look at the date
Nov 10 07:18:35 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 07:18:38 <Set_> I got the wrong one.
Nov 10 07:18:40 <zmatt> latest *release* version is 2015-11-03
Nov 10 07:18:51 <Set_> Latest is stable on that site?
Nov 10 07:19:07 <Set_> I will check.
Nov 10 07:19:08 <zmatt> they also call it "release"
Nov 10 07:19:13 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:19:25 <Set_> so...
Nov 10 07:19:29 <Set_> Release = Stable
Nov 10 07:19:32 <zmatt> well
Nov 10 07:19:33 <Set_> ?
Nov 10 07:19:47 <zmatt> I wrongly used the word stable before
Nov 10 07:19:51 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 07:20:09 <veremit> its 'official' .. nuff said
Nov 10 07:20:29 <Set_> I cannot believe I am about to go through the whole process again.
Nov 10 07:20:33 <zmatt> the release images for some reason still use an ancient debian version
Nov 10 07:20:56 <Set_> I have Debain 7 but an old version.
Nov 10 07:21:06 <veremit> there are semi-official jessie images on that release page, zmatt
Nov 10 07:21:19 <zmatt> they're testing images
Nov 10 07:21:22 <zmatt> I actually recommend them
Nov 10 07:21:47 <veremit> why Beagle are lagging the debian releases I have NO clue
Nov 10 07:22:04 <zmatt> especially since debian already does a fine job at lagging themselves
Nov 10 07:22:11 <veremit> hell yeah!
Nov 10 07:22:19 <zmatt> if *they* call a release obsolete, you can be certain it is
Nov 10 07:22:32 <zmatt> (and they do call wheezy obsolete)
Nov 10 07:22:35 <veremit> its stone-age
Nov 10 07:22:47 <veremit> who know what took so long to 'approve' jessie
Nov 10 07:22:49 <veremit> but anyhow ..
Nov 10 07:22:52 <veremit> round the loop
Nov 10 07:22:59 <veremit> it works(tm)
Nov 10 07:23:28 <veremit> And even my desktop isrunning a 6m old Gentoo build :D
Nov 10 07:23:42 <veremit> and that's the 'recent' work build .. *shudders to think about this one*
Nov 10 07:24:13 <Set_> what is this "rcn" about and why do BB.org not have the update capacities?
Nov 10 07:24:34 <veremit> ah no, this one is 6mo .. work must be quite recent then
Nov 10 07:24:40 <zmatt> if you'd hand me a BBB to freshly install, what I would do is: grab latest testing console image, flash it, remove unnecessary crap, upgrade it to stretch, enable systemd-{networkd,resolved,timesync} (I think last one is standard already) and apt-get purge the stuff it obsoletes, then start installing useful packages
Nov 10 07:24:54 <zmatt> *timesyncd
Nov 10 07:25:23 <Set_> I got one that is updated to the newest versions.
Nov 10 07:25:31 <Set_> This one is a work of art.
Nov 10 07:25:44 <Set_> Beat but not out.
Nov 10 07:26:48 <zmatt> stretch is technically not latest, but it's recent enough and avoids the periodic breakage of sid
Nov 10 07:26:57 <Set_> Ut oh.
Nov 10 07:27:22 <Set_> Okay...so. Matt, do you think I should update my image?
Nov 10 07:27:40 <Set_> I saw what you typed but this BBB only works with a SD card inserted.
Nov 10 07:28:12 <Set_> The image from the flash was updated via Angstrom to the point that it overcrowded and does not produce any longer.
Nov 10 07:28:29 <Set_> I guess I could format it.
Nov 10 07:28:31 <zmatt> so... reflash it?
Nov 10 07:28:33 <Set_> Boom!
Nov 10 07:28:36 <Set_> I tried.
Nov 10 07:28:52 <zmatt> that's what flasher images are for
Nov 10 07:28:56 <Set_> I listened to the directions and thought I had got it (numerous time).
Nov 10 07:29:12 <Set_> I never got the flasher to produce a fresh image.
Nov 10 07:29:37 <Set_> Hey man...does Debian 7 mean Wheezy?
Nov 10 07:29:55 <Set_> Because if not...I am getting thrown a bone.
Nov 10 07:31:34 <veremit> https://www.debian.org/releases/
Nov 10 07:32:30 <Set_> Those bastards are saying that it is obsolete. You were right.
Nov 10 07:32:38 <Set_> I got old bones.
Nov 10 07:32:39 <zmatt> yep
Nov 10 07:32:53 <Set_> Do you have Jessie on your bone?
Nov 10 07:32:54 <uavvcam> 7 = wheezy
Nov 10 07:32:57 <Set_> Yep.
Nov 10 07:33:08 <veremit> they sure went 'stable->obsolete' f*in quick
Nov 10 07:33:11 <Set_> I have wheezy on mine and it is stuck as of now.
Nov 10 07:33:22 <veremit> but its immaterial tbh .. it works
Nov 10 07:33:34 <veremit> unless you havve specific issues .. roll with it.
Nov 10 07:33:44 <Set_> I am having the issue with Flask.
Nov 10 07:33:55 <Set_> I cannot find it in any repositories.
Nov 10 07:34:03 <Set_> my commands are no use.
Nov 10 07:34:25 <uavvcam> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/python-flask
Nov 10 07:34:43 <zmatt> possibly because you have an ancient debian? dunno, I see it
Nov 10 07:34:58 <uavvcam> apt-get update then apt-get install python-flask
Nov 10 07:35:17 <uavvcam> have to work
Nov 10 07:35:27 <Set_> Here the issue I have. I cannot update any longer.
Nov 10 07:35:28 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 07:35:55 <Set_> I will get a new image. Gosh!
Nov 10 07:37:17 <Set_> Damn images drive me up the wall. I never get it right.
Nov 10 07:37:38 <veremit> catchya later folks .. gotta hit the road.
Nov 10 07:37:46 <zmatt> I don't know if there's a flasher for console images
Nov 10 07:38:02 <veremit> should be
Nov 10 07:38:04 <veremit> *gone*
Nov 10 07:38:07 <Set_> Later.
Nov 10 07:38:19 <zmatt> ah there is indeed
Nov 10 07:38:23 <Set_> Yep.
Nov 10 07:38:41 <Set_> I saw it. They have a SD/Flasher for both.
Nov 10 07:39:36 <Set_> Okay...I am boring myself right now. I am about to perform superDuty attempt on my BBB. bare with me.
Nov 10 07:39:45 <zmatt> Set_: if you're okay with starting with a minimal system and installing stuff you need then starting with a console image may be a good idea
Nov 10 07:39:55 <zmatt> easier/faster to update also, less packages
Nov 10 07:40:00 <Set_> Oh...
Nov 10 07:40:09 <Set_> I use mine for following books for now.
Nov 10 07:40:38 <Set_> I have stuff like Adafruit_BBIO, Flask, connections to peripherals, and so on...
Nov 10 07:40:44 <zmatt> but keep in mind a console image does not by default enable usb-networking (you need to plug in ethernet) and does not have any web interface (or indeed a webserver at all)
Nov 10 07:40:54 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:40:56 <Set_> I need it.
Nov 10 07:41:02 <Set_> I need the webserver stuff.
Nov 10 07:41:21 <zmatt> I never used it so I have no idea if it's easy to install afterward
Nov 10 07:41:24 <Set_> I like to produce items for learning experiences.
Nov 10 07:41:43 <Set_> i.e. Instagram like stuff for me, me, me!
Nov 10 07:41:51 <Set_> I send me my own pictures. Ha!
Nov 10 07:41:57 <zmatt> if you grab a non-console image, pick one labeled -2gb, they contain less GUI crap but afaik still the whole webserver thing
Nov 10 07:42:08 <uavvcam> you start right now :D always better to use the smallest system you can get and build on it. but for first steps get the biggest you can get
Nov 10 07:42:17 <zmatt> uavvcam: I disagree with the second half
Nov 10 07:42:30 <Set_> Okay...
Nov 10 07:42:38 <Set_> So, the smallest system is the console image?
Nov 10 07:42:42 <zmatt> if you don't need all the gui shit, the -4gb image just means longer download, longer flash time, less free eMCM space after flashing
Nov 10 07:42:43 <Set_> I do not need the GUI.
Nov 10 07:42:57 <zmatt> Set_: but I don't think there's any image without GUI but with the webserver
Nov 10 07:43:05 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:43:17 <zmatt> console should be renamed 'minimal'
Nov 10 07:43:23 <Set_> I need to be able to connect to the web with it for pings and pingbacks.
Nov 10 07:43:26 <uavvcam> you are right zmatt.
Nov 10 07:43:54 <zmatt> Set_: well it can connect to the internet obviously
Nov 10 07:44:03 <uavvcam> but it will cause alot of trouble to get things working on aminimal system
Nov 10 07:44:24 <Set_> Mine is online via USB and this site.
Nov 10 07:44:26 <zmatt> well, depends on what you want to do
Nov 10 07:44:34 <uavvcam> dont know what kind of webserver set needs, but even on a minimal sytem a apache should be deployed wuick
Nov 10 07:44:38 <zmatt> Set_: "this site" ?
Nov 10 07:44:41 <Set_> I use the PuTTY SSH client for most things.
Nov 10 07:44:56 <Set_> yea...
Nov 10 07:44:56 <zmatt> uavvcam: well I meant the whole standard web-interface thing
Nov 10 07:45:19 <Set_> I am online via computer with Ethernet but my BBB is online too.
Nov 10 07:45:36 <zmatt> Set_: via ethernet you mean, or?
Nov 10 07:45:43 <Set_> I see it is online because it connects to this chat messenger.
Nov 10 07:46:08 <Set_> I do not know. I will stop typing for right now.
Nov 10 07:46:23 <zmatt> you don't know whether an ethernet cable is plugged into your BBB?
Nov 10 07:46:28 <zmatt> it's usually not hard to miss
Nov 10 07:46:39 <Set_> No...I know that there was not one and now there is one plugged in.
Nov 10 07:46:49 <Set_> I tried to listen to you.
Nov 10 07:46:54 <Set_> I am not sure if that matters.
Nov 10 07:47:13 <Set_> That = having an Ethernet plugged in to my BBB.
Nov 10 07:47:42 <Set_> Oh well.
Nov 10 07:47:45 <zmatt> well I don't see how it could have internet otherwise unless you enabled internet connection sharing on your PC
Nov 10 07:48:01 <Set_> Yea...it uses my computer to be online via USB.
Nov 10 07:48:17 <uavvcam> type ifconfig -a please
Nov 10 07:48:23 <Set_> Okay...hold please.
Nov 10 07:48:41 <zmatt> uavvcam: -bash: ifconfig: command not found
Nov 10 07:48:42 <zmatt> ;)
Nov 10 07:49:24 <uavvcam> grrrrrrrrr
Nov 10 07:49:26 <zmatt> (possibly you mean "ip addr" ?)
Nov 10 07:49:40 <Set_> I typed ifconfig -a
Nov 10 07:49:48 <uavvcam> just want to know how he is connected with the internet
Nov 10 07:49:51 <Set_> What I saw is GLORIOUS!
Nov 10 07:50:08 <Set_> It says USB via a certain address.
Nov 10 07:50:50 <zmatt> ip -4 route   is often more useful
Nov 10 07:50:59 <zmatt> (or just "ip route" if you want IPv6 info also)
Nov 10 07:51:04 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:51:06 <Set_> Okay...
Nov 10 07:51:14 <zmatt> especially if you have multiple interfaces
Nov 10 07:51:24 <Set_> I have multiples.
Nov 10 07:51:24 <zmatt> since it'll tell you which one it's actually using as default route
Nov 10 07:51:33 <uavvcam> but he should be able to apt-get packages eitherway
Nov 10 07:51:34 <Set_> It showed my USB.
Nov 10 07:51:49 <Set_> Period. USB...boy!
Nov 10 07:51:50 <zmatt> "default via <ip of router> dev <interface>"
Nov 10 07:51:50 <Set_> Hhahahaha.
Nov 10 07:51:57 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 07:51:58 <Set_> Sorry.
Nov 10 07:52:29 <Set_> I just keep learning every day.
Nov 10 07:53:06 <zmatt> only the "default via" is relevant for internet access, the other lines are just LAN access
Nov 10 07:53:34 <Set_> I will check again.
Nov 10 07:54:26 <Set_> USB via something or other...
Nov 10 07:54:28 <zmatt> 10.0.0.0/8 dev eth0     <-- e.g. a line starting with that says it can reach the network 10.0.0.0/8 directly via ethernet
Nov 10 07:54:53 <Set_> Yea...I am uploading and downloading at certain speeds with USB and Ethernet.
Nov 10 07:54:55 <Set_> Dang!
Nov 10 07:55:20 <zmatt> ??  are we still talking about the output of 'ip route' here?
Nov 10 07:55:31 <zmatt> oh you're talking about ifconfig -a output
Nov 10 07:55:34 <zmatt> which includes statistics
Nov 10 07:55:41 <Set_> hey Z...I am not sure. I do not know what you want to know.
Nov 10 07:55:53 <Set_> If you want to know certain info, just ask.
Nov 10 07:55:56 <Set_> I will tell you.
Nov 10 07:55:59 <zmatt> ip route
Nov 10 07:56:02 <uavvcam> actually i want to know if your bbb can reach the internet
Nov 10 07:56:08 <Set_> Fine. Yes. It can@!
Nov 10 07:56:20 <uavvcam> that is the case i think as you can talk with us via the bbb, right?
Nov 10 07:56:27 <Set_> Hold please. I think someone is throwing things at my front door.
Nov 10 07:56:32 <zmatt> uavvcam: the two don't imply each other
Nov 10 07:56:42 <zmatt> uavvcam: you can reach the bbb via usb even if it can't reach the internet
Nov 10 07:57:08 <Set_> I know.
Nov 10 07:57:19 <uavvcam> but if the irc client is running on the bbb it must reach the net somehow. then apt shuld work to get his flask things
Nov 10 07:57:21 <Set_> Not a soul. There was no one there. Just darkness.
Nov 10 07:57:34 <Set_> I know. That is it.
Nov 10 07:57:46 <Set_> I do not get why I cannot do what I expect.
Nov 10 07:57:47 <zmatt> Set_: 'ip route', what does the line starting with 'default via' say?
Nov 10 07:57:54 <Set_> No way.
Nov 10 07:58:07 <Set_> I do not want to get into that.
Nov 10 07:58:16 <zmatt> ??
Nov 10 07:58:23 <uavvcam> jsut type 'ip route'
Nov 10 07:58:31 <uavvcam> without ''
Nov 10 07:58:44 <Set_> I did.
Nov 10 07:58:49 <zmatt> it's the most useful summary of the network connectivity of your BBB
Nov 10 07:58:56 <Set_> It shows my address from my Ethernet and my USB.
Nov 10 07:59:07 <zmatt> no line that starts with "default via" ?
Nov 10 07:59:13 <Set_> Nope.
Nov 10 07:59:21 <Set_> Oh yea.
Nov 10 07:59:23 <Set_> Sorry.
Nov 10 07:59:25 <zmatt> -.-
Nov 10 07:59:25 <Set_> Ethernet.
Nov 10 07:59:28 <zmatt> thank you
Nov 10 07:59:31 <Set_> You are welcome.
Nov 10 07:59:32 <zmatt> it has internet via ethernet
Nov 10 07:59:43 <Set_> Now...b/c I just plugged in the ethernet.
Nov 10 07:59:57 <Set_> The Ethernet was not plugged in earlier and I was still online.
Nov 10 08:00:04 <zmatt> feel free to unplug it and try again then
Nov 10 08:00:11 <Set_> Okay...please hold.
Nov 10 08:00:56 <zmatt> did you do any special (non-default) network config on the BBB and your PC ?  since that's afaik required to give the BBB internet access via usb
Nov 10 08:01:24 <Set_> Okay...no. That USB has always given me online support.
Nov 10 08:01:41 <zmatt> what do you mean by that?
Nov 10 08:01:44 <Set_> I have been able to grab what I wanted, i.e. directories and such.
Nov 10 08:01:58 <Set_> Sorry. Not directories...I meant libraries.
Nov 10 08:02:05 <zmatt> using apt?
Nov 10 08:02:23 <Set_> No...I used to have to use something else with Angstrom.
Nov 10 08:02:42 <zmatt> ok I don't know anything about angstrom
Nov 10 08:02:56 <Set_> But...with my Debian via SD card, I had to use the apt-get function.
Nov 10 08:03:37 <Set_> Now...with this package/image I have, I can only update to a certain part to the whole scheme of things.
Nov 10 08:03:50 <Set_> Debian 7/Wheezy.
Nov 10 08:03:57 <Set_> I showed you the date earlier.
Nov 10 08:04:08 <Set_> 3/2015...
Nov 10 08:04:14 <zmatt> the dogtag actually never updates, it shows which image you downloaded to start with
Nov 10 08:04:18 <zmatt> (afaik)
Nov 10 08:04:20 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 08:04:22 <Set_> Dang!
Nov 10 08:04:57 <Set_> what updates?
Nov 10 08:04:59 <zmatt> this is relevant since the image contains config and stuff that lives outside the reach of package management
Nov 10 08:05:18 <Set_> I asked the wrong question.
Nov 10 08:05:47 <Set_> When I start my BBB via PuTTy, I get a sign on screen. I typed my credentials and I have access to my board.
Nov 10 08:06:05 <Set_> It then shows what Debian I run on my board.
Nov 10 08:06:10 <zmatt> yes, you can ssh to the BBB, both via usbnet or via ethernet
Nov 10 08:06:19 <Set_> Oh...okay.
Nov 10 08:06:19 <zmatt> (that's true regardless of whether it has internet)
Nov 10 08:06:20 <Set_> I know.
Nov 10 08:06:25 <Set_> Oh?
Nov 10 08:06:43 <Set_> I have been online via GUI before with the boad.
Nov 10 08:06:50 <Set_> board = board
Nov 10 08:07:02 <Set_> boad = board Yikes!
Nov 10 08:07:15 <zmatt> on debian, via usb?
Nov 10 08:07:22 <Set_> No...via Ethernet.
Nov 10 08:07:37 * zmatt sighs deeply
Nov 10 08:07:42 <Set_> I had to use the 5v
Nov 10 08:07:48 <Set_> a/c adapter
Nov 10 08:07:54 <Set_> Hhahahaha.
Nov 10 08:07:55 <zmatt> so what's your point?  we already established that your BBB has internet access if you plug in ethernet
Nov 10 08:08:08 <Set_> I cannot update anything!
Nov 10 08:08:24 <Set_> I am stuck with it in 7 in 2015!
Nov 10 08:08:32 <Set_> That is all.
Nov 10 08:08:40 <zmatt> normal updating of packages stays within a single release version
Nov 10 08:08:46 <zmatt> i.e. you'll get the latest wheezy packages
Nov 10 08:08:52 <Set_> I have all the latest.
Nov 10 08:08:54 <zmatt> which are still old
Nov 10 08:09:23 <Set_> I know...I tried to explain this earlier. They can only update to a certain date with USB.
Nov 10 08:09:37 <zmatt> you can't update anything via usb since it won't have internet
Nov 10 08:09:42 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 08:09:45 <Set_> Dang it!
Nov 10 08:09:46 <zmatt> once again
Nov 10 08:09:51 <zmatt> for the nth tmie
Nov 10 08:09:52 <zmatt> *time
Nov 10 08:09:55 <Set_> No wonder I could not understand.
Nov 10 08:10:02 <zmatt> plug. in. ethernet. :/
Nov 10 08:10:04 <Set_> I get what you are saying now.
Nov 10 08:10:16 <Set_> I am going to try and update something.
Nov 10 08:10:19 <Set_> Please hold.
Nov 10 08:10:38 <zmatt> and accept that wheezy is ancient.  updating your wheezy packages to their latest wheezy version will not change the fact that wheezy is ancient cruft.
Nov 10 08:11:03 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 08:11:09 <Set_> You were right and I was wrong.
Nov 10 08:11:18 <Set_> You win. I should buy you something.
Nov 10 08:11:38 <Set_> I really thought I was updating items. It showed it was updating certain things.
Nov 10 08:11:45 <Set_> I am serious.
Nov 10 08:11:51 <Set_> I am pretty sure I did not make this up.
Nov 10 08:12:02 <zmatt> it probably showed it was trying to fetch things but failing
Nov 10 08:12:17 <Set_> yes...to a certain point.
Nov 10 08:12:38 <Set_> before, I could get what I wanted online via USB.
Nov 10 08:12:58 <Set_> Then, I reached a new image of Debian from Angstrom via SD card.
Nov 10 08:13:09 <Set_> Then, I had all kinds of complications with the update.
Nov 10 08:13:29 <Set_> It was no longer opkg. It was apt-get
Nov 10 08:14:15 <Set_> Thank you.
Nov 10 08:14:30 <Set_> I am updating now and there will actually be freed up space now.
Nov 10 08:14:40 <Set_> Again...thank you.
Nov 10 08:14:55 <Set_> I am on break for now.
Nov 10 08:15:01 <Set_> I will be right back.
Nov 10 08:18:35 <Set_> Hey...I am back. Thank you for making me understand. I know it is hard to make me understand other peoples' points.
Nov 10 08:21:11 <Set_> You even taught me some commands that I did not know.
Nov 10 08:26:30 <zmatt> uavvcam taught me a command I didn't know
Nov 10 08:26:33 <zmatt> we learn all the time
Nov 10 08:28:02 <Set_> Dang man...I had a bunch of updates to perform.
Nov 10 08:28:16 <Set_> It is still going and going and goin.
Nov 10 08:28:54 <Set_> I had a problem with updating...
Nov 10 08:29:32 <Set_> That page you showed me earlier, http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Flashing_eMMC, showed a problem getting:
Nov 10 08:29:56 <Set_> 1. ftp.bealgeboard.org
Nov 10 08:30:28 <Set_> excuse me...
Nov 10 08:30:36 <Set_> It was debian.beagleboard.org
Nov 10 08:31:14 <Set_> 2. they wanted me to use  http://repos.rcn-ee.com/ instead
Nov 10 08:31:22 <Set_> for updates
Nov 10 08:31:28 <Set_> At least...this is what I thought.
Nov 10 08:32:29 <Set_> And I guess this is still relevant. I just needed to use the Ethernet cable instead of the USB.
Nov 10 08:32:31 <Set_> I assume.
Nov 10 08:32:52 <Set_> Man...I could have been doing everything right for a long time if I knew what you know.
Nov 10 08:35:09 <Set_> Hey man...I am out. I hope you have a good night. I need to start my board and do some stuff around the old home. Thank you...see you later.
Nov 10 10:22:37 <Super_guest> hi guyz ;D
Nov 10 10:22:42 <Super_guest> easy question but i have to ask to be sure
Nov 10 10:23:04 <Super_guest> i don t want to ecidentaly hurt  my beaglebone black
Nov 10 10:23:10 <Super_guest> want it to cummunicate with the stm32 over uart
Nov 10 10:23:12 <Super_guest> is this save?
Nov 10 10:23:14 <Super_guest> both 3.3v
Nov 10 10:23:21 <Super_guest> but stm32 can source 25mA
Nov 10 10:23:48 <Super_guest> and bbb can only handle 8mA input according to sir molloy
Nov 10 10:25:33 <Super_guest> so is it save
Nov 10 10:25:43 <Super_guest> i knwo i dont need a level converter but the current D:
Nov 10 10:25:59 <Super_guest> or does the MCU has in internal pin resistor
Nov 10 10:26:04 <Super_guest> apart from pull up/down
Nov 10 10:27:36 <tbr> what are you trying to do between both?
Nov 10 10:29:10 <Super_guest> uart
Nov 10 10:29:22 <Super_guest> tty
Nov 10 10:29:34 <GSM> HI anyone there
Nov 10 10:29:39 <Super_guest> hello ;D
Nov 10 10:30:09 <GSM> i need help for ui devlopment by qt
Nov 10 10:30:28 <Super_guest> try derek molloy
Nov 10 10:30:52 <GSM> error coimg out while opkg update
Nov 10 10:31:00 <GSM> o beaglebone
Nov 10 10:31:11 <Super_guest> hmm
Nov 10 10:31:15 <Super_guest> i hav ehad errors wtih it also
Nov 10 10:31:20 <Super_guest> why not use sudo apt get
Nov 10 10:31:31 <Super_guest> try multiple sources to achieve what u want
Nov 10 10:31:34 <Super_guest> one might work
Nov 10 10:32:02 <GSM> which multile sources r avilbe can u mention
Nov 10 10:32:07 <Super_guest> google.com
Nov 10 10:32:19 <GSM> not geting
Nov 10 10:32:32 <Super_guest> i had to install glibc yesterday to version 2.14
Nov 10 10:32:39 <Super_guest> some say use opkg
Nov 10 10:32:48 <Super_guest> but also didnt work
Nov 10 10:33:22 <Super_guest> http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/qt-with-embedded-linux-on-the-beaglebone/
Nov 10 10:33:25 <GSM> cloud rocket has another but there also error while configure
Nov 10 10:33:36 <Super_guest> hmm
Nov 10 10:33:46 <Set_> Hello...
Nov 10 10:33:46 <Super_guest> but tbr u know if this might be a problem with uart?
Nov 10 10:33:50 <Super_guest> hi ;D
Nov 10 10:34:05 <Set_> I got my messed up board flashed.
Nov 10 10:34:08 <Set_> IT works!
Nov 10 10:34:13 <GSM> he specified system/compiler port is not complete:        /home/manoj/Downloads/qt-4.8.6-beagle/mkspecs/qws/linux-am335x-g++/qplatformdefs.h
Nov 10 10:34:17 <Set_> Now...I have to update.
Nov 10 10:34:25 <tbr> Super_guest: uart shouldn't be a problem. it's not current driven
Nov 10 10:34:30 <Set_> upgrade and deploy superb blah, blah, blah.
Nov 10 10:35:08 <Super_guest> thank you tbr <(^_^<)
Nov 10 10:35:31 <tbr> if you are concerned, use a series resistor for protection
Nov 10 10:35:50 <Super_guest> o.o
Nov 10 10:36:00 <Super_guest> ill do it to be sure
Nov 10 10:36:30 <Super_guest> Set
Nov 10 10:36:40 <Super_guest> i didnt require my board to be flashed
Nov 10 10:36:48 <Super_guest> got with latest already on board
Nov 10 10:36:51 <Set_> 7/8/2015...are there any updates and upgrades to this Debian?
Nov 10 10:36:51 <Super_guest> maybe u have already also
Nov 10 10:37:02 <Super_guest> check ur version
Nov 10 10:37:07 <Set_> Super...howdy.
Nov 10 10:37:13 <Super_guest> its probally the same as the iso
Nov 10 10:37:14 <Set_> I checked my version.
Nov 10 10:37:22 <Set_> I got that date for my version of Debian.
Nov 10 10:37:28 <Super_guest> yes is it the same?
Nov 10 10:37:35 <Set_> Same as what?
Nov 10 10:37:45 <Set_> The newest?
Nov 10 10:38:10 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 10:38:13 <Super_guest> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Nov 10 10:38:19 <Set_> Nevermind. I am slow.
Nov 10 10:38:20 <Super_guest> its probally the same date no
Nov 10 10:38:25 <Super_guest> ;D
Nov 10 10:38:27 <Set_> I will check.
Nov 10 10:38:53 <Set_> four months ahead of that date.
Nov 10 10:38:53 <Super_guest> i think uname -a would be the way to check version
Nov 10 10:38:58 <GSM> error for opkg install qt4-embedded
Nov 10 10:38:59 <Super_guest> or lsb_release -a
Nov 10 10:39:01 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 10:39:12 <Super_guest> what did u use to check
Nov 10 10:39:37 <Set_> I thought I could check by typing out cat /etc/dogtag
Nov 10 10:39:47 <Super_guest> probally i am not experianced in it either
Nov 10 10:40:00 <Set_> I used cat /etc/dogtag
Nov 10 10:40:06 <Super_guest> gsm try to install qt from the link i gave u
Nov 10 10:40:15 <Super_guest> http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/qt-with-embedded-linux-on-the-beaglebone/
Nov 10 10:40:17 <Set_> That showed my date. I am in Debian/7.
Nov 10 10:40:20 <Super_guest> derek molloy is awesome
Nov 10 10:40:28 <Super_guest> try uname -a
Nov 10 10:40:32 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 10:40:44 <Super_guest> o.O
Nov 10 10:40:49 <Super_guest> i cant remember how i checked
Nov 10 10:40:56 <Set_> I am just happy I got this board up and running again without a SD card.
Nov 10 10:41:13 <Super_guest> yes i was same
Nov 10 10:41:19 <Super_guest> but i got it as a get out of jail free card
Nov 10 10:41:22 <Set_> I have many systems on SD cards that ran this board but the eMMC did not work.
Nov 10 10:41:44 <Set_> I did not understand that...I saw it on the site
Nov 10 10:41:55 <Set_> "Get out of Jail Free Card" was on the site.
Nov 10 10:42:00 <Set_> What is that?
Nov 10 10:42:01 <Super_guest> getting started
Nov 10 10:42:05 <Super_guest> thats the SD Card
Nov 10 10:42:09 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 10:42:18 <Super_guest> but only if u get in jail
Nov 10 10:42:22 <Super_guest> ;p
Nov 10 10:42:25 <Set_> What is jail?
Nov 10 10:42:29 <Set_> Brick?
Nov 10 10:42:30 <Super_guest> probally bricking
Nov 10 10:42:31 <Super_guest> yes
Nov 10 10:42:33 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 10:42:33 <Super_guest> i think
Nov 10 10:42:35 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 10:42:56 <Set_> you can always boot it off an SD card. That is what is cool about these computers.
Nov 10 10:43:00 <GSM> tht i have done but erroe Unknown package 'qt4-embedded'. Collected errors:  * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package qt4-embedded.
Nov 10 10:43:12 <Super_guest> GSM
Nov 10 10:43:15 <Super_guest> do uhave internets
Nov 10 10:43:18 <Super_guest> on the bbb?
Nov 10 10:43:20 <Set_> apt-get for Debian.
Nov 10 10:43:32 <Set_> opkg for Angstrom.
Nov 10 10:43:53 <Super_guest> u need internet
Nov 10 10:43:57 <Super_guest> try to ping 8.8.8.8
Nov 10 10:44:04 <Set_> Plug in your Ethernet!
Nov 10 10:44:08 <Set_> Hhahahaha.
Nov 10 10:44:14 <Set_> I had to learn that earlier.
Nov 10 10:44:40 <GSM> i have internet to pc and i have connected beaglebone to pc through usb and ssh to the bord
Nov 10 10:45:13 <Super_guest> can u ping www.google.com?
Nov 10 10:45:33 <GSM> i dont know how to ping
Nov 10 10:45:39 <Super_guest> just type ping and ip address
Nov 10 10:45:44 <Super_guest> type this : ping 8.8.8.8
Nov 10 10:45:49 <GSM> which ip
Nov 10 10:45:54 <Super_guest> 8.8.8.8
Nov 10 10:45:55 <Set_> I have to upgrade. I will be right back.
Nov 10 10:45:57 <Super_guest> if u dont know how to ping
Nov 10 10:46:00 <Super_guest> u cant sudo apt get man
Nov 10 10:46:46 <Super_guest> tbr ;x
Nov 10 10:46:53 <Super_guest> do u have recommended resistor value?
Nov 10 10:47:06 <Super_guest> it would be 3.3v / resistor value = current limit
Nov 10 10:47:19 <Super_guest> or would the current determine what voltage i get?
Nov 10 10:48:11 <Super_guest> getting side tracked
Nov 10 10:48:18 <tbr> Super_guest: try asking google?
Nov 10 10:48:25 <Super_guest> tbr ;(
Nov 10 10:48:33 <Super_guest> i know the ohms law
Nov 10 10:48:37 <tbr> though I don't think those are strictly necessary
Nov 10 10:48:45 <Super_guest> but which would determine which ;x?
Nov 10 10:48:53 <GSM> do i need to connect ethernet to bbb
Nov 10 10:49:00 <Super_guest> if u want to opkg
Nov 10 10:49:01 <Super_guest> yes
Nov 10 10:49:09 <GSM> k
Nov 10 10:49:10 <GSM> ty
Nov 10 10:49:19 <GSM> i wil try
Nov 10 10:50:10 <Set_> Ethernet!
Nov 10 10:50:29 <Set_> I cannot believe I forgot to plug in my Ethernet.
Nov 10 10:50:34 <Set_> That is ridiculous.
Nov 10 10:50:44 <Super_guest> it happens to the best of us
Nov 10 10:50:44 <Set_> I am the epitome of a no-no!
Nov 10 10:50:48 <Set_> Yep.
Nov 10 10:51:10 <Set_> Now...I got a fresh system, I am upgrading, and things are running smoothly.
Nov 10 10:51:18 <Set_> I am going to try to get back to the books soon.
Nov 10 10:51:32 <Super_guest> derek molloy?
Nov 10 10:51:37 <Super_guest> but u did dogtag
Nov 10 10:51:44 <Super_guest> if its the same relase image u dont need to reflash
Nov 10 10:51:47 <Super_guest> it just uwill take time
Nov 10 10:52:08 <Set_> I got a Richardson book and a Monk book.
Nov 10 10:52:20 <Set_> One is for python and the other is for JavaScript.
Nov 10 10:52:38 <Set_> I have been learning python for about three months.
Nov 10 10:52:43 <Super_guest> oh python
Nov 10 10:52:46 <Super_guest> -.-
Nov 10 10:52:50 <Set_> I am terrible at it now.
Nov 10 10:52:51 <Super_guest> and java...
Nov 10 10:52:55 <Set_> I am getting better.
Nov 10 10:52:57 <Super_guest> u already master c?
Nov 10 10:53:00 <Set_> Nope.
Nov 10 10:53:06 <Set_> I just took one class in college.
Nov 10 10:53:09 <Super_guest> o.o
Nov 10 10:53:10 <Set_> I am learning.
Nov 10 10:53:19 <Super_guest> have fun
Nov 10 10:53:20 <Super_guest> erm
Nov 10 10:53:23 <Set_> Yep!
Nov 10 10:53:23 <Super_guest> this other guy does python also
Nov 10 10:53:25 <Super_guest> on youtube
Nov 10 10:53:27 <Set_> Oh?
Nov 10 10:53:29 <Set_> Who?
Nov 10 10:53:40 <Set_> I need to have more resources.
Nov 10 10:53:56 <Set_> I use edx.org and coursera.org.
Nov 10 10:53:56 <Super_guest> paul mcWorther
Nov 10 10:54:00 <Set_> Okay...
Nov 10 10:54:02 <Super_guest> yes i have edx also
Nov 10 10:54:04 <Super_guest> but he is kinda dumb
Nov 10 10:54:08 <Super_guest> imo
Nov 10 10:54:13 <Super_guest> very basic stuff what he does
Nov 10 10:54:32 <Set_> I also use the python.org site for Doc. research.
Nov 10 10:54:38 <Super_guest> have fun man
Nov 10 10:54:43 <Super_guest> i am trying to do device over lay tree or something
Nov 10 10:54:46 <Set_> They have unlimited docs for free.
Nov 10 10:54:46 <Super_guest> to get my uarts running -.-
Nov 10 10:54:52 <Set_> Oh.
Nov 10 10:54:56 <Super_guest> python has them easyer
Nov 10 10:54:59 <Super_guest> from adafruit i think
Nov 10 10:55:07 <Super_guest> ye go with adafruit also
Nov 10 10:55:14 <Set_> Yep...Adafruit has Adafruit_BBIO.
Nov 10 10:55:20 <Set_> it is python.
Nov 10 10:55:25 <Super_guest> and sparkfun
Nov 10 10:55:55 <Set_> I found another python out there.
Nov 10 10:56:00 <Set_> It is like Cypython.
Nov 10 10:56:03 <Super_guest> was fun talking to u i need to focus on my work tho
Nov 10 10:56:06 <Super_guest> i dont know python
Nov 10 10:56:09 <Set_> Or something like that.
Nov 10 10:56:10 <Super_guest> or cypython
Nov 10 10:56:10 <Set_> Okay.
Nov 10 10:56:14 <Set_> Later.
Nov 10 10:56:22 <Super_guest> bb <(^_^<) have fun guyz
Nov 10 10:57:17 <Set_> whelp...there goes that guy.
Nov 10 10:57:19 <Set_> Dang!
Nov 10 10:58:11 <GSM> manoj@testPC:~$ ssh root@beaglebone.local root@beaglebone.local's password:  root@BeagleBoneBlack:~# opkg install qt4-embedded Unknown package 'qt4-embedded'. Collected errors:  * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package qt4-embedded. root@BeagleBoneBlack:~# sudo apt-get qt4-embedded -sh: sudo: command not found
Nov 10 10:58:27 <GSM> is it right but error
Nov 10 10:58:33 <GSM> again
Nov 10 11:00:31 <schmid> why do you try sudo if you are already root?
Nov 10 11:00:51 <GSM> first i tried opkg
Nov 10 11:01:18 <GSM> yes right just tried sudo
Nov 10 11:02:44 <GSM> can i connect bbb to pc through usb and bbb to ethernet port
Nov 10 11:02:55 <GSM> both at time
Nov 10 11:21:44 <GSM_> HI
Nov 10 11:22:06 <GSM_> .
Nov 10 11:22:15 <GSM_> root@BeagleBoneBlack:~# opkg update Downloading http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz. wget: can't connect to remote host (140.211.169.161): Connection timed out Downloading http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/machine/beaglebone/Packages.gz. wget: can't connect to remote host (140.211.169.161): Connection timed out Downloading http:/
Nov 10 11:22:23 <GSM_> error
Nov 10 11:22:33 <GSM_> plz sort out some one
Nov 10 11:24:14 <GSM_> anyone
Nov 10 11:24:22 <GSM_> root@BeagleBoneBlack:~# opkg update Downloading http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz. wget: can't connect to remote host (140.211.169.161): Connection timed out Downloading http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/machine/beaglebone/Packages.gz. wget: can't connect to remote host (140.211.169.161): Connection timed out Downloading http:/
Nov 10 11:24:25 <tbr> use debian
Nov 10 11:24:27 <GSM_> help me out
Nov 10 11:24:34 <tbr> stop repeating yourself
Nov 10 11:25:00 <GSM_> k
Nov 10 15:09:42 <Super_Guest> o.o
Nov 10 15:09:54 <Spidler_> 0.o
Nov 10 15:10:07 <Super_Guest> i love this channel <(^_^<)
Nov 10 15:10:22 <Super_Guest> so much people also all working with the bbb ;D?
Nov 10 15:11:12 <Super_Guest> ;D
Nov 10 15:27:00 <nerienna> yes, actually, I have app. 20 of them at work...
Nov 10 15:28:19 <Spidler_> Mmm
Nov 10 15:28:31 <Spidler_> Our batch of 50 is running out now, ordered a few more.
Nov 10 15:29:04 <nerienna> hace to change emmcs again...
Nov 10 15:29:13 <nerienna> *have
Nov 10 15:31:50 <Spidler_> alias emacs=/usr/bin/busybox vi
Nov 10 15:31:59 <Spidler_> *Cough*
Nov 10 15:32:44 <Spidler_> yes, I've done that on all our beagles. Mostly because I've also installed a "proper" vim. But the emacs heretics get to suffer.
Nov 10 15:32:54 <nerienna> emmc
Nov 10 15:33:05 <nerienna> like the flash chip
Nov 10 15:34:51 <nerienna> modifying the hardware before we run our tests
Nov 10 15:43:09 <fr1> hi
Nov 10 15:43:51 <fr1> I try to execute this command: int ret = system("echo ADAFRUIT-UART4 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots");
Nov 10 15:44:31 <fr1> but I have this:root@beaglebone:/lib/firmware# echo ADAFRUIT-UART4 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots -bash: echo: write error: File exists
Nov 10 15:47:25 <fr1> sorry, this error: sh: 1: cannot create ../sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots: Directory nonexistent
Nov 10 15:47:45 <fr1> why?
Nov 10 15:51:20 <fr1> any idea?
Nov 10 15:54:58 <nerienna> which kernel version?
Nov 10 15:55:25 <fr1> 3.8.13-bone79
Nov 10 15:56:02 <fr1> in c file, my code is: int ret = system("echo ADAFRUIT-UART4 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots");
Nov 10 15:57:12 <fr1> when I execute the file compiled... :root@beaglebone:/home/mytest# ./testUart4 inizio programma sh: 1: cannot create ../sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots: Directory nonexistent
Nov 10 15:57:32 <nerienna> 3.8.13 has the capemanager support, so I don't know
Nov 10 15:58:20 <fr1> okay thanks
Nov 10 16:06:28 <tbr> fr1: because the system call likely doesn't do wildcard substitution
Nov 10 16:06:45 <tbr> the error message suggests that
Nov 10 16:08:01 <fr1> tbr: you have any idea how to resolve?
Nov 10 16:09:17 <tbr> a) don't use substitution b) figure out the right path beforehand c) make a sys call to a shell that will do substitution
Nov 10 16:09:58 <tbr> d) do it properly instead of using a syscall
Nov 10 16:11:19 <fr1> tbr: in d solution, how to...
Nov 10 16:11:45 <tbr> fopen the right file, then write to it
Nov 10 16:13:19 <fr1> okay, I try to open "slots" and add...
Nov 10 19:05:51 <selcuk> hi
Nov 10 20:57:51 <mayormccheese2k1> Hey guys, trying to find a Linux version of bin2nand, any ideas?
Nov 10 21:06:41 <paranic> anyone knows how to disable HDMI audio in kernel 4.1.10 ?
Nov 10 21:07:03 <paranic> cape_disable=capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI doesent seem to work
Nov 10 21:07:13 <paranic> i still get the device in aplay -L
Nov 10 21:53:18 <Set_> One of those icons to sign on with looked like garbage, not food.
Nov 10 21:53:30 <Set_> And yes..."With Looked Like."
Nov 10 21:53:52 <Set_> How are the people?
Nov 10 21:54:06 <Set_> I got this book on Debian finally.
Nov 10 21:54:09 <Set_> I am so far behind.
Nov 10 21:55:26 <Set_> Up, up, and splat.
Nov 10 21:55:35 <Set_> Spatula...
Nov 10 21:55:51 <Set_> Okay...I will keep it to BBB stuff.
Nov 10 21:56:30 <Set_> I need to bring up my book on Debian 7 and update/upgrade my shtick.
Nov 10 21:57:34 <Set_> I found it somehow. It is called the Debian Handbook. It seems pretty lengthy.
Nov 10 21:57:41 <Set_> Oh and yes...I shall enjoy.
Nov 10 21:58:26 <Set_> Skip to Ch. 7 boy!
Nov 10 21:59:45 <Set_> This Debian Manual sounds very profound. Profound in the sense that it uses Profanity. Yikes!
Nov 10 21:59:55 <Set_> Poo-poo, no-no!
Nov 10 22:00:04 <Set_> Anybody?
Nov 10 22:00:21 <Set_> Okay...I am off to read again.
Nov 10 22:04:42 <Set_> The book says I can use this BBB as a web device. Can I use the web device (BBB) while in a Shell?
Nov 10 22:07:56 <Set_> I see words that are real things in life. These words, yelp and info2www, seem to me that they provide a web interface but I cannot tell if they work in the Shell.
Nov 10 22:08:16 <Set_> I guess I could always try. Who knows?
Nov 10 22:09:58 <Set_> Aw...7.1.4
Nov 10 22:10:07 <Set_> The most crucial at my time of need.
Nov 10 22:10:12 <Set_> Websites!
Nov 10 22:15:03 <Set_> Okay...
Nov 10 22:15:15 <Set_> For the record. I broke apart old, soiled wood today.
Nov 10 22:15:39 <Set_> Boo to that and no to it again. That wood is all over me like a warm, salt bath of vomit.
Nov 10 22:15:44 <Set_> Sorry...just sayin.
Nov 10 22:16:00 <Set_> Okay...back to Debian.
Nov 10 22:28:22 <Set_> Do I need to download a program for "special characters," namely @?
Nov 10 22:28:59 <Set_> I tried out this email program and my only complaint is the @ symbol.
Nov 10 22:29:23 <Set_> It reads: invalid syntax
Nov 10 22:29:27 <Set_> It is a python code.
Nov 10 22:37:46 <Set_> I got the GPG error on my board for updates. Noooooooo!
Nov 10 22:38:00 <Set_> I have figured out how to solve this but I am lazy now.
Nov 10 22:38:06 <Set_> Someone...anyone?
Nov 10 22:39:34 <Set_> Okay...back to reading.
Nov 10 22:41:14 <Set_> Okay...I need to update something. This may take a while, e.g. probably not. I am over-dramatic.
Nov 10 22:43:30 <Set_> what a pain. I have to reflash my board.
Nov 10 22:43:32 <Set_> Noooo!
Nov 10 22:43:38 <Set_> I will be back soon. Enjoy!
Nov 10 22:52:38 <GenTooMan> Thats what they all say ...
Nov 10 23:38:07 <Set_> I am not a robot.
Nov 10 23:38:35 <Set_> Well...I got this image writing done up right now.
Nov 10 23:38:59 <Set_> Great! I am completely up to date but I lost my files.
Nov 10 23:39:13 <Set_> I have to start from scratch...boo!
Nov 10 23:40:07 <Set_> Whelp...back to the book.
Nov 10 23:47:01 <Set_> Never tell a sentence in question form!
Nov 10 23:47:20 <Set_> "I tell questions!"
Nov 10 23:50:47 <Set_> I do not think that book is right.
Nov 10 23:50:52 <Set_> I must be tired.
Nov 10 23:52:33 <Set_> The beagle...heh?
Nov 11 00:02:47 <GenTooMan> You are beagle tired?
Nov 11 00:13:40 <Set_> Yep...
Nov 11 00:14:16 <Set_> I am trying to work out of this book and the book's code is wrong.
Nov 11 00:14:23 <Set_> I am trying to figure out what is wrong with it.
Nov 11 00:14:56 <MathOnNapkins> Maybe the code isn't wrong, maybe it just came from a different part of the multiverse *spooked out*
Nov 11 00:15:09 <Set_> It would help if I knew something about servers and e-mail programs. I sort of do but not enough to transform the code to work.
Nov 11 00:15:12 <Set_> Yea.
Nov 11 00:15:31 <Set_> <<<<<< spooked
Nov 11 00:15:53 <Set_> The source code is python and from the python.org site.
Nov 11 00:16:00 <Set_> It is used in a book from Make:
Nov 11 00:16:17 <Set_> I have been working out of it and this is the first time I have been stumped.
Nov 11 00:16:37 <Set_> I keep getting  line eight is wrong (syntax error).
Nov 11 00:16:56 <Set_> and it points to the "@" symbol.
Nov 11 00:17:07 <Set_> Crikey!
Nov 11 00:22:56 <MathOnNapkins> @ is not a typical symbol in Python
Nov 11 00:23:14 <Set_> thank you...
Nov 11 00:23:39 <Set_> Why in the world could I use it to send off emails to myself?
Nov 11 00:24:01 <Set_> For e-mail addresses via a server, it may be allowed.
Nov 11 00:26:59 <Set_> I give up for now. I need to rest. Have fun!
Nov 11 02:01:47 <zmatt> MathOnNapkins: decorators...
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