**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 22 02:59:59 2015 Nov 22 03:02:50 So you need the data for controlling 'stuff' from the BBG to be correct? you are using json IE javascript type controlling with the BBG attached devices? SEEED studio provides the information you use ro twiddling the attached devices I assume Nov 22 03:07:05 I got some Grove stuff. Nov 22 03:07:23 I am just attaching things and making stuff do different things. yes... Nov 22 03:07:42 But...what I understand and what I do are different. Nov 22 03:07:54 So, I have to catch up mentally with what I can do physically. Nov 22 03:08:11 Computational. Nov 22 03:08:31 Dang...he left. Nov 22 03:08:49 has anyone gotten qemu to boot a bbb img? Nov 22 03:13:58 it seems very unlikely it could do so **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 22 03:37:53 2015 Nov 22 03:47:47 the internets is falling apart ... again. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 22 03:50:51 2015 Nov 22 04:00:05 can i use the emmc as swap? Nov 22 04:00:11 on a bealgebone black Nov 22 04:00:31 or rather, i want to make a swap partition there Nov 22 04:00:53 I wouldn't use swap at all, and would particularly strongly advise against putting swap on eMMC Nov 22 04:01:07 why so? Nov 22 04:01:44 i'm happy to swap to an sdcard if need be Nov 22 04:01:56 but i'll be using a lot of ram probably Nov 22 04:02:13 relatively anyway Nov 22 04:02:40 swap does not magically get you more ram :P Nov 22 04:03:04 of course not, but i want to swap it out somewhere when ram is filling up Nov 22 04:03:19 eMMC is very slow for writes, and it wears down over time (and cannot easily be replaced, unlike a card or a HD) Nov 22 04:03:33 why would you want that? Nov 22 04:03:48 surely better performance to have it that way? Nov 22 04:04:17 for example a server that caches web pages in ram using something like polipo Nov 22 04:04:48 but similar other servers running that rely on ram rather than writing to sdcard Nov 22 04:06:12 well you'll have to evaluate it for your particular use cases, but once you start swapping data out to eMMC expect performance to fall to that of a snail Nov 22 04:06:34 well, okay say to sdcard instead Nov 22 04:06:44 that'd be alright? Nov 22 04:06:59 assuming noop, zswap etc Nov 22 04:07:55 I would still much rather avoid running out of memory in the first place (a ram cache should normally be designed to avoid exceeding ram actually available) Nov 22 04:09:52 so just cut the fat and limit my cache sizes for said servers would be a smarter approach? Nov 22 04:11:06 if whatever is being cached is very expensive to generate, then cache it into actual files (in which case caching those in ram is managed automatically by linux) Nov 22 04:11:47 ah thanks for the advise, i'll see how that works out thanks Nov 22 04:12:17 swap is basically only useful if non-file-backed pages are sitting idly in ram without actually being used Nov 22 04:12:40 if they are, my question would be what are they doing there in the first place Nov 22 04:13:23 e.g. if you have services running that you don't actually use, disabled them Nov 22 04:13:29 *disable Nov 22 04:14:02 makes sense, thanks for explaining it Nov 22 04:14:17 i guess I can deal with sdcard reads over getting pages from some server wan-side Nov 22 04:14:58 so, question is whether caching would actually be worthwhile (vs just getting the page again) Nov 22 04:15:25 do you have Micron or Kingston eMMC on your BBB btw? Nov 22 04:15:30 yeah, i'll have to see what improvement i can get Nov 22 04:15:31 (it varies randomly per BBB) Nov 22 04:15:50 i can see 'kingston' stamped on one of the chips Nov 22 04:16:06 Hello guys, Nov 22 04:16:22 i guess that's a good thing? Nov 22 04:16:25 lucky you, at least that's the faster eMMC Nov 22 04:16:41 sweet heh, does it vary from maker to maker? Nov 22 04:16:45 or just 100% random? Nov 22 04:16:48 I am trying to find when and where HDMI initialize on BBB (Debian 8.2). Maybe someone can point me? Nov 22 04:17:12 chillfan: whichever was available in quantity and cheapest when the producer ran the batch Nov 22 04:17:29 ah, i'm thinking of getting one for someone else as a basic portable computer Nov 22 04:18:25 speaking of.. the mx-15 model.. do they have a time scale for that? Nov 22 04:18:32 datasheet lists 12 MB/s for "write sequential" "running HS200 mode from KSI proprietary tool" Nov 22 04:18:50 in other words "12 MB/s write speed under extremely ideal non-real-world circumstances" Nov 22 04:19:29 hm best stick with a small swap for sdcard, guess the only thing i can't help is the ssh server though Nov 22 04:19:39 unfortunately, unlike micron they don't list performance for random writes Nov 22 04:20:08 i'll use it sensibly in any case, i don't want to wear it Nov 22 04:21:03 yeah, nand is tricky since the erase-block size on these chips is 4 MB, and no amount of magic sauce is going to truly change that Nov 22 04:21:54 hence writes smaller than an aligned 4 MB block of data require data to be internally copied over Nov 22 04:23:17 I already like these boards a great deal i have to say Nov 22 04:24:46 the BBB is mostly cool for its kickass I/O and the PRU cores Nov 22 04:25:35 weak points are usb and graphics, although the gpu can still deliver decent graphics... if you can get it to work Nov 22 04:26:16 when you say work, would it be suitable for a simple window manager? Nov 22 04:26:36 ie nothing special, no need of composite, something plain like lxde or openbox Nov 22 04:26:42 the gpu isn't supported under X Nov 22 04:26:50 so vesa for that? Nov 22 04:26:57 framebuffer Nov 22 04:27:11 hm makes me think it might be slow Nov 22 04:28:03 or avoid X... I'm not sure what the current status is but it *might* be (or going to be) supported under Wayland Nov 22 04:28:34 yeah i'll have to test it to see if it's suitable for someone who needs X Nov 22 04:29:43 my only experience with the gpu so far is some OpenGL ES (1 or 2) demos running directly on the framebuffer Nov 22 04:30:01 http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/bbb-sgx-magiclantern.png Nov 22 04:30:17 (actual frame grabbed from the framebuffer) Nov 22 04:30:39 looks good Nov 22 04:30:49 reasonably for what it is anyway Nov 22 04:31:04 yeah, non-trivial demo too... the little orb floats around and projects patterned light onto a complex object Nov 22 04:32:00 can't wait for the mx-15 to come out, m4 on one of these boards would be interesting Nov 22 04:32:28 x-15* Nov 22 04:33:13 yeah, "interesting" is indeed a good way to describe those subsystems Nov 22 04:33:31 (I have experience with the m3 predecessor of it on another TI SoC) Nov 22 04:34:15 well i'm no developer, but a 2 core at 1.5ghz would be a nice permanent server for me Nov 22 04:34:37 my plan here is to cart the bbb around when it's not serving local stuff and boot something else there Nov 22 04:34:55 or if there's a black friday deal, i'll get a second one heh Nov 22 04:35:00 ah you mean the cortex-a15 Nov 22 04:35:34 maybe you were referring to something else with the "m4" then, I thought you were referring to the four cortex-m4 cores it also has Nov 22 04:36:24 I think i confused it with 'm4 ssd' as it has esata, nvm though heh, processing power and ram is what matters most to me Nov 22 04:36:35 (and two C66x DSP cores, four PRU cores, dual-core GPU, 2D graphics accelerator, video en-/decoding accelerator, ...) Nov 22 04:36:54 so presumably more suitable for graphics Nov 22 04:37:37 three independent 24-bit digital video output ports available via the expansion headers (in addition to the on-board HDMI) Nov 22 04:37:46 would usb on these boards handle some hub + keyboard + touchpad + wireless? Nov 22 04:37:55 on the x15 ? Nov 22 04:37:59 na, bbb Nov 22 04:38:17 you can try and hope you're lucky Nov 22 04:38:28 No power! Nov 22 04:38:32 Not enough! Nov 22 04:38:35 a powered hub would be recommended Nov 22 04:38:39 Yep! Nov 22 04:38:46 especially due to the wifi stick Nov 22 04:38:53 those things tend to be hungry Nov 22 04:39:08 I guess keyboard with a touchpad built in, and hopefully a low power wifi thing Nov 22 04:39:28 I'd still recommend ethernet though Nov 22 04:39:45 I tried a powered hub with a USB mouse and USB keyboard. I could only get one to work. Nov 22 04:39:51 that might be an option with a power kit Nov 22 04:39:58 ethernet power kit Nov 22 04:40:29 So, Nov 22 04:40:32 for usb it doesn't even have DMA, so don't expect too much performance from it Nov 22 04:41:03 well i expect only some all in one style keyboard to be plugged in there, something with touchpad Nov 22 04:41:11 Yea! Nov 22 04:41:30 I have a cheap powered USB hub. I should upgrade. Nov 22 04:41:39 (the hardware does have DMA, but it and/or the driver for it are so crappy that enabling DMA actually makes things slower, someone recently reported) Nov 22 04:41:50 keyboard and such is fine Nov 22 04:42:09 that or i'd get another armhf board to accomodate it all, but i suspect ethernet over power would be okay in this case Nov 22 04:42:34 ugh, that's also really horrible Nov 22 04:42:59 Plug in the 5v or the micro HDMI to USB. Nov 22 04:43:01 (especially from an EMI point of view) Nov 22 04:43:20 hdmi can go to usb? Nov 22 04:43:31 I have no idea what Set_ is talking about Nov 22 04:43:38 Nevermind. Nov 22 04:43:42 I am sorry to interrupt. Nov 22 04:43:47 I will stop now. Nov 22 04:44:09 I am beat man. The damn BBG beat me today. Nov 22 04:44:29 hm I guess I could setup a router Nov 22 04:44:29 I wanted to use some typed up code to tell me the temp. in my house. Nov 22 04:44:35 to repeat the connection Nov 22 04:44:48 chillfan: power cables are not exactly designed to carry data Nov 22 04:45:10 hm back to plan b then, a repeater Nov 22 04:45:17 hasn't kept manufacturers from shoving data over them anyway, but that doesn't make it a good idea :P Nov 22 04:45:29 what is this uboot thing Nov 22 04:45:34 bz: bootloader Nov 22 04:45:45 I e-mailed Seeed Studio's and one of their programmers today. Nov 22 04:45:49 sorta like grub but different Nov 22 04:46:08 zmatt: thanks Nov 22 04:46:44 I need to get to the temp. testings. Nov 22 04:46:57 First things first. Nov 22 04:47:15 Does anyone use Amazon Web Services? Nov 22 04:47:30 for the BBB/BBG? Nov 22 04:48:21 Come on. Someone has to use AWS for their BBG, right? Nov 22 04:49:10 Oh well... Nov 22 04:49:11 the results of your poll are in: 0 people here are using AWS for their BBG (if any) Nov 22 04:49:16 :P Nov 22 04:49:16 carry on Nov 22 04:49:20 I know. Nov 22 04:49:32 I am a lone ranger. Nov 22 04:49:54 possibly would some accessory or another add wifi and an enclosure? Nov 22 04:50:41 chillfan: I've never really understood enclosures, but then I'm used to doing stuff with the I/O so... Nov 22 04:50:42 Is chillfan asking about what arm processor to purchase on which board? Nov 22 04:50:57 chillfan: I just give 'em little legs to stand on Nov 22 04:51:09 Hahhaha. Legs. Nov 22 04:51:41 If someone is asking which board, pick the BBB. I have other boards. I like this one. Nov 22 04:51:59 It is small, powerful, compact, and it has good support. Nov 22 04:52:11 I/O! Nov 22 04:52:12 (or giant ones for the one that has the jtag connector soldered onto its bottom side ( http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/barebone.jpg ) ) Nov 22 04:52:27 well what i need for someone i'm buying for is.. web browser, email, flash support Nov 22 04:52:52 seems like a waste of a BBB to me Nov 22 04:52:58 and wireless connectivity Nov 22 04:53:08 or otherwise wired but from a repeater Nov 22 04:53:09 Yea...this machine can do so much more. Nov 22 04:53:36 maybe someone made a wireless cape... there's still a full SDIO interface on the expansion headers Nov 22 04:53:52 You got UART, i2c, and all sorts of analog to digital converters. GPIO! Nov 22 04:54:15 there are pretty nifty wireless chipsets that hook up via SDIO Nov 22 04:54:42 With this board, you can send e-mails when someone opens the kitchen cabinet. Nov 22 04:54:52 It will do it for you. Nov 22 04:55:41 Get me one too. I need another leg on this bot. Nov 22 04:55:46 Hhahaha. Nov 22 04:56:00 maybe i just need more usb Nov 22 04:56:15 usb sucks Nov 22 04:56:16 I wonder. Do they have a USB Cape? Nov 22 04:56:22 yeah they do Nov 22 04:56:26 20 USBs! Nov 22 04:56:28 ?? Nov 22 04:56:37 I know...sorry. Nov 22 04:56:45 I thought it was clever. Nov 22 04:57:00 They do? Nov 22 04:57:06 there's not really a suitable interface on the expansion headers for usb Nov 22 04:57:13 unless there's an usb sdio thing Nov 22 04:57:21 Nope. Nov 22 04:57:33 hm so maybe i'm barking up the wrong board Nov 22 04:57:46 No way! Nov 22 04:58:05 BBB is where it is at. I have two LaunchPads and a Galileo. Nov 22 04:58:09 This is far superior. Nov 22 04:58:12 the requirement for adding wifi would be that it can fit in an enclosure, as it's for a computer dummy Nov 22 04:58:29 if you just need a small computer, I'm pretty sure there have to be better choices Nov 22 04:58:57 They have HDMI 'puters now. It is a stick. Nov 22 04:58:59 BBB is focussed on I/O and hardware hacking Nov 22 04:59:26 (hence the two big honkin' expansion headers) Nov 22 04:59:29 I/O, I/O, I/O! Nov 22 04:59:33 are there other open boards for this? Nov 22 04:59:46 or well, any open boards Nov 22 04:59:47 hmm, dunno you'd have to look around Nov 22 05:00:02 things like cubieboard, or wandboard, or dunno I think there are tons of boards Nov 22 05:00:12 besides the well-known fruit Nov 22 05:00:16 TI.com has a bunch of stuff. Oh and DigiKey, too. Nov 22 05:00:42 hm link for the fruit board? Nov 22 05:00:59 Fruit board? Nov 22 05:01:17 oh you mean bpi/rpi etc Nov 22 05:01:43 hmm, liquidsoap on bbb doing vorbis encoding uses 80% cpu Nov 22 05:01:56 I was referring to the rpi yeah Nov 22 05:01:56 on a 1ghz atom, it uses like 10% cpu Nov 22 05:02:05 kenrestivo: is it Neon-optimized? Nov 22 05:02:10 i have no idea Nov 22 05:02:20 it's the liquidsoap package from debian 8.2 for bbb Nov 22 05:02:29 I'm not familiar with it at all Nov 22 05:02:36 maybe i do have to recompile it with cpu flags. can you tell me what ones i should use? Nov 22 05:02:45 liquidsoap is an ocaml-based streaming audio processor Nov 22 05:03:04 it's entirely possible that the cpu flags in the debian package aren't set up for arm Nov 22 05:03:16 well, you can *try* it but unless it's specifically written to take advantage of Neon you'd be relying on gcc's auto-vectorizer, which is... not great Nov 22 05:03:23 i'd love to know what ones to try, and i can crosscompile it and check Nov 22 05:04:15 hmm, these? http://www.eliteraspberries.com/blog/2013/09/cflags-for-numerical-computing-on-the-beaglebone-black.html Nov 22 05:04:52 just -mcpu=cortex-a8 -mfpu=neon Nov 22 05:05:13 and -ffast-math -O3 indeed Nov 22 05:05:39 -mfloat-abi=hard is already default Nov 22 05:05:58 make sure you use the latest arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc-5 toolchain you can get your hands on Nov 22 05:06:41 is it possible to build my own bootable disk image with uboot? Nov 22 05:06:58 sure Nov 22 05:08:00 though it's simpler to start with an existing image Nov 22 05:08:06 I am about to try out my programming script again. I hate me. This BBG cannot beat me. Nov 22 05:08:18 (e.g. the latest jessie console image) Nov 22 05:10:13 zmatt: i'm trying to get netbsd running on the bbb Nov 22 05:11:17 heh, ok Nov 22 05:11:31 https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black maybe this page is useful Nov 22 05:13:03 Gosh...the code is changing before my very eyes. I type it in and it prompts me with the wrong value. Nov 22 05:13:08 still, the easy way would be to grab a console image even if you discard its rootfs Nov 22 05:13:22 Set_: is it really necessary to continuously narrate everything you're doing? Nov 22 05:13:31 Oh sorry. Nov 22 05:13:33 Nope. Nov 22 05:13:36 I will stop. Nov 22 05:13:58 bz: u-boot is located inbetween the partition map and the first actual partition Nov 22 05:15:10 although alternatively you can put it on a FAT partition instead (on SD that's also the only supported method) Nov 22 05:15:21 zmatt: just a standard jessie crosscompile, other than the gcc issue Nov 22 05:15:24 ? Nov 22 05:16:15 kenrestivo: debian package gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf Nov 22 05:16:36 hmm, vmdeboostrap or crosscompile? Nov 22 05:16:46 yep, i'm well familiar with gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf :) Nov 22 05:16:49 that package doesn't existing in jessie Nov 22 05:16:51 thoguh Nov 22 05:16:59 only in stretch and sid Nov 22 05:17:01 remember, i've been living in fruit-board land for a while Nov 22 05:17:05 aye Nov 22 05:17:19 never heard of vmdebootstrap Nov 22 05:17:49 https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/TI/BeagleBone ? Nov 22 05:17:54 I've been looking into making a rootfs from scratch and the thing I saw mentioned was multistrap Nov 22 05:18:05 i hadn't either Nov 22 05:18:23 page hasn't been updated in quite a while Nov 22 05:18:27 one way might be to ssh your beagle, install debootstrap and do the partitions yourself Nov 22 05:18:32 it's what i plan to do anyway Nov 22 05:18:40 guess i could compile native Nov 22 05:18:54 cross-compiling is a LOT faster usually Nov 22 05:18:59 when supported Nov 22 05:19:00 this is a big package though, i'd like to use my nice i7 Nov 22 05:19:50 this looks promising: https://wiki.debian.org/CrossToolchains Nov 22 05:20:16 btw, it's maybe worth mentioning that if you install qemu-user-static and copy /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static over to $targetfs/usr/bin/ then you can actually chroot (or preferably systemd-nspawn) into $targetfs and it Just Works™ Nov 22 05:20:27 cool Nov 22 05:20:27 even though $targetfs is armhf and not your native architecture Nov 22 05:20:31 wat? Nov 22 05:20:34 that makes no sense Nov 22 05:20:49 chrooting into a different binary arch? Nov 22 05:20:52 yep Nov 22 05:20:54 magick Nov 22 05:21:28 kernel doesn't understand binary, asks binfmt_misc, where qemu-user-static has registered the signatures for executables of architectures it understands Nov 22 05:21:44 hence /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static gets invoked automagically Nov 22 05:21:50 wild Nov 22 05:21:52 (hence the need to copy that over to the targetfs) Nov 22 05:22:25 systemd-nspawn -D $targetfs will also do things like mount procfs for you and partially containerize it Nov 22 05:22:50 very handy! Nov 22 05:23:58 I was also surprised at how ridiculously easy it was to enter a foreign-arch system this way Nov 22 05:24:29 i've used schroot before, but not on a different arch Nov 22 05:24:50 has proven quite useful, e.g. to repair a filesystem when something has gone horribly wrong Nov 22 05:25:09 yeah, very cool. i'll try it! Nov 22 05:26:24 (in combo with BBBlfs... you should ignore its broken scripts, but it has a handy tool misleadingly called "usb_flasher" which actually boots a BBB via USB into a tiny linux system that exposes the eMMC as usb mass storage device) Nov 22 05:27:02 u-boot is capable of doing the same thing, but slloooooooow Nov 22 05:27:55 i have a jessie chroot with gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf 4.9.2-10.1 Nov 22 05:28:00 uboot's "ums" is useful for fixing a typo in uEnv.txt Nov 22 05:28:06 get gcc 5.2 Nov 22 05:28:19 ok Nov 22 05:28:26 if you want to have anything even resembling useful auto-vectorization Nov 22 05:28:39 i'll just create a sid chroot Nov 22 05:28:56 * zmatt never uses anything older than stretch really Nov 22 05:30:03 i'm a sysadmin by training, i'm very conservative :-) Nov 22 05:30:13 debian stable for me, thanks Nov 22 05:30:26 debian testing is ancient enough for me, thanks :P Nov 22 05:30:44 hahaha. well for development, i have to chase the latest stuff, hence chroots. Nov 22 05:30:49 and vms Nov 22 05:31:17 i rather like nixos too, you might like it as well Nov 22 05:31:25 http://nixos.org/ Nov 22 05:31:36 I'm aware of it, still been meaning to give it try Nov 22 05:31:56 i use it for some things, like emacs Nov 22 05:31:59 ... some time Nov 22 05:32:02 haha Nov 22 05:32:15 ok thanks again. project for later in the week i think. Nov 22 05:32:37 I've come to the conclusion I don't actually *like* debian, but it's just that I'm used to it and usually know where to find stuff or how to fix stuff Nov 22 05:33:28 I've been bitten by its non-atomic upgrades though Nov 22 05:33:39 and dpkg/apt is just... slow Nov 22 05:35:43 I recently had to make good use of the ability to chroot into BBB's rootfs to repair it, after a kernel panic in the middle of installing updates that included things like libc, systemd, and other such rather essential goodies Nov 22 05:36:42 after I copied over libc from another BBB that is, since you can't exactly chroot into a system whose libc has been replaced by garbage Nov 22 06:01:25 Dang! Nov 22 06:02:14 Seeed-Studio's software is full of syntax errors. I have tried to clean it up but I cannot cure everything. Nov 22 06:02:35 zmatt...do you write software at all? Nov 22 06:07:05 The Seeed_Studio person was probably tired of working. Nov 22 06:07:22 Anyone can go blind studying code. Nov 22 06:10:55 This guy nails 707 lines of code. Now, I am stuck on line 5 of a .py file. Nov 22 06:10:58 Blah! Nov 22 12:29:44 Hello all... Nov 22 13:29:28 hello set_ Nov 22 13:29:54 newegg has 32 & 64gb micro sd w/ adapter on sale Nov 22 13:29:58 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173031&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL112215&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL112215-_-EMC-112215-Index-_-FlashMemory-_-20173031-S3A4C Nov 22 13:40:16 Hello felon- Nov 22 13:40:47 felon-: Do you use the BBG? Nov 22 13:41:36 no Nov 22 13:41:38 BBB Nov 22 13:41:42 That is cool. Nov 22 13:41:46 I like the BBB. Nov 22 13:41:52 yeah i just got it friday Nov 22 13:42:00 Oh. Nov 22 13:42:03 Cool. Nov 22 13:42:12 so i've been reading a ton Nov 22 13:42:15 What have you done with it? Nov 22 13:42:18 Cool. Nov 22 13:43:29 flashed jessie to the internal mem Nov 22 13:43:37 Cool! I did it too. Nov 22 13:43:41 been editing the service confs Nov 22 13:43:47 mainly apache2 atm Nov 22 13:43:54 Oh. Nov 22 13:44:06 What are you going for with those edits? Nov 22 13:44:23 zmatt helped me with the usb not working properly, we got that sorted Nov 22 13:44:36 Great. Nov 22 13:44:36 so now its up and runnin and in its little case Nov 22 13:44:51 uh just hardening the server Nov 22 13:45:36 Cool, cool. I got my BBG plugged in now. I am supposed to edit some script that I know little about. Nov 22 13:45:43 Do you program? Nov 22 13:46:11 no, i'm not good @ programming :( Nov 22 13:46:19 I am a newbie at typing up programs. Nov 22 13:46:35 i took intro to c++ in college and got a D Nov 22 13:46:41 and i was bustin my ass Nov 22 13:46:42 C Nov 22 13:46:49 I got a C. Nov 22 13:46:53 nice Nov 22 13:47:00 i just didnt comprehend Nov 22 13:47:09 most things seemed backwards Nov 22 13:47:30 but i do have some learning disability so that might play a part of the confusion Nov 22 13:47:36 Yea...it takes time and effort. I am learning little by little. Nov 22 13:47:44 yeah time and patience Nov 22 13:47:47 Yep. Nov 22 13:47:59 i used to run apache back in the day Nov 22 13:48:04 and squid Nov 22 13:48:07 hrm Nov 22 13:48:18 Aw. Nov 22 13:48:20 i had a little pentium2 runnin suse Nov 22 13:48:28 and i'd just play with it all day Nov 22 13:48:39 (long time ago) Nov 22 13:48:41 hhehe Nov 22 13:48:43 Oh. Nov 22 13:48:54 so i'm trying to get back in the game Nov 22 13:48:59 Yep...I got my BBB about two years ago. Nov 22 13:49:12 It still works. Yea! Nov 22 13:49:12 i ordered a a 32gb micro for FreeBSD Nov 22 13:49:20 cool! Nov 22 13:49:30 Oh. Nov 22 13:49:38 when i fears heard about BB it was a tad pricey for me at the time Nov 22 13:49:43 *first Nov 22 13:49:53 Yep. Nov 22 13:49:58 i have a raspi, and now bbb Nov 22 13:50:10 Electronics are not cheap. Nov 22 13:50:33 the raspi runs script miners and has an ipv6 tunnel from tunnel broker Nov 22 13:50:46 Oh. Nov 22 13:50:48 not script miners scrypt Nov 22 13:51:09 litecoin/doge/etc Nov 22 13:51:29 I have been trying, via c9.io, to run various codes on my BBG. Nov 22 13:51:43 i played with c9 yesterday Nov 22 13:51:54 i was like gaaah the memories!@#$ Nov 22 13:52:27 i like to do "hello world\n\n eat a dick" Nov 22 13:52:35 Oh, I like c9. It is a shell that works with the BBB/BBG. Nov 22 13:52:37 Hhahahah. Nov 22 13:52:39 thats my programming Nov 22 13:52:52 yeah i read about c9 Nov 22 13:53:02 gives me plenty to do this cold winter Nov 22 13:53:07 Yep. Nov 22 13:53:25 I have been looking into advocating for Opensource. Nov 22 13:53:37 I love to hack things and make it "mine." Nov 22 13:53:44 yea Nov 22 13:53:51 i like to customize what I can Nov 22 13:53:57 The BBB is perfect for the hacking of stuff. Nov 22 13:54:01 normally shit breaks and i have to go back n fix it Nov 22 13:54:03 but Nov 22 13:54:07 Yep. Nov 22 13:54:08 hey thats all about learning Nov 22 13:54:31 i compiled unreal ircd on the bbb lastnight Nov 22 13:54:48 and almost finished making the .conf file before calling it a day Nov 22 13:54:55 Oh. Nov 22 13:55:16 i plan to run apache2, ircd, ssh Nov 22 13:55:28 I use PuTTY sometimes. Nov 22 13:55:36 i use putty everyday! Nov 22 13:55:43 i like putty64 tbh Nov 22 13:56:04 has some slight tweaks like being able to just left click a link and it opens in your browser Nov 22 13:56:15 PuTTY is an easy way to get online and update when the files and directories have gone old. Nov 22 13:56:22 sure is Nov 22 13:56:38 i'm to damn sore and lazy atm to go lookin for serial cable Nov 22 13:57:17 Oh. Nov 22 13:57:31 Serial! Nov 22 13:58:31 <<<<< on break Nov 22 13:59:45 k Nov 22 14:08:37