**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 11 02:59:58 2016 Jan 11 06:27:52 web chromium browser in beaglebone black denies ftp operation.How to resolve it? Jan 11 06:37:50 if you run a standard debian image, then it's a debian specific problem, not a BBB problem Jan 11 06:38:14 and/or an ftp site problem or a chrome issue. Jan 11 06:38:34 yes Jan 11 06:38:46 * tbr would just use a dedicated ftp client anyway Jan 11 06:38:58 definitely .. web support of ftp is bad at its best. Jan 11 06:39:05 its an ancient protocol Jan 11 06:47:28 it is a firewall issue Jan 11 06:47:45 ftp can potentially require connections to open in both directions Jan 11 06:48:34 even if that is allowed, it requires the client to know the address visible to the other end. the passive stuff changes some of it but that is a different mode Jan 11 06:49:15 I'd expect browsers to only do passive ftp anyway Jan 11 07:03:17 how to download mozilla browser for beagle bone black?Is it possible? Jan 11 07:03:44 which linux distribution are you running on the BBB? Jan 11 07:03:52 angstrom Jan 11 07:04:02 chrome exists in angstrom? Jan 11 07:04:08 what version .. .like 6?! lmao Jan 11 07:04:20 but I cant perform some ftp operations Jan 11 07:05:00 there is a meta layer whcih contains firefox, so might be possible Jan 11 07:05:28 how to install that in BBB Jan 11 07:05:29 though if you are doing desktop-ish things, you really should consider running a debian image Jan 11 07:06:48 Is there any other option for this problem Jan 11 07:07:45 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2015-11-03 Jan 11 07:09:50 please note that if you have a RevA or RevB board you MUST choose a 2GB eMMC image. A 4GB will NOT work on those, only on RevC! Jan 11 07:11:08 how to utilize that meta layer Jan 11 07:11:34 so you insist on angstrom? Jan 11 07:11:46 yes Jan 11 07:12:00 dang. That's dedication .. Jan 11 07:12:05 hardly a 'desktop' distro Jan 11 07:12:21 any specific reason? Jan 11 07:12:42 because it is somewhat more stable than others Jan 11 07:12:50 rofl Jan 11 07:13:01 it also requires a lot more systems engineering knowledge Jan 11 07:13:18 while debian is _the_ defacto stable distribution Jan 11 07:15:35 the only thing going for angstrom .. is that it was developed for embedded devices, but usually without any consideration towards being up-to-date or remotely 'flexib'e to use Jan 11 07:17:10 it's an embedded distro. in place package upgrades are rather rarely utilized in those. Used to work in angstrom for quite long, but then yocto came around and broke upgrade paths everywhere Jan 11 07:17:30 since mainline kernel has managed to integrate arm, Android came into existence, and the Pi was developed, there has been a lot more effort to bring desktop functionality to arm devices Jan 11 07:18:13 so why live in the past, and/or re-invent the wheel .. Jan 11 07:18:20 * tbr ran a debian potato desktop on an OMAP1 at some point... Jan 11 07:21:49 potato .. that almost rings a bell .. Jan 11 07:21:58 was that like .. 4? or 5? Jan 11 07:24:28 could be 4, maybe even 3 Jan 11 07:24:47 * veremit googles debian release lol Jan 11 07:25:07 the wikipedia page on debian has nice tables Jan 11 07:25:14 it does too Jan 11 07:25:57 much better than some of the debian ones .. what happened to the debian infra/web team lol Jan 11 07:28:25 lol @ pixar/debian link Jan 11 07:35:59 omgomgomg! Jan 11 07:36:10 tbr: debian 2 .. congrats Jan 11 07:36:19 Testpattern from u-boot on BBB! Jan 11 07:36:30 eliasbakken: YAY!! \o/ Jan 11 07:36:46 Not home free yet, but it is a start! Jan 11 07:37:03 eliasbakken: congrats, big step Jan 11 07:37:10 Indeed! Jan 11 07:37:24 Has anyone gotten the bmp command in uboot to work? Jan 11 07:37:57 might need to try #uboot .. or whereveer it is for that Jan 11 07:38:36 I think the original beagleboards had DVI output and u-boot supported it Jan 11 07:40:47 It should be gzipped, but I mut be zipping it wrong. I'll have to look at the manual. Jan 11 07:52:25 eliasbakken .. have you written up your findings anywhere yet? would be interesting to see what's involved .. Jan 11 07:53:17 No, it's still pretty chaotic, but I will do a blog post about this, and if it turns out OK maybe a pull request. Jan 11 07:53:45 excellent .. pretty sure it'd get accepted by RN/etc. Jan 11 08:10:39 It's a start! https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12558690_1214677941879831_1751015711_n.jpg Jan 11 08:10:57 Now for powering USB in the MLO Jan 11 08:15:40 eliasbakken: what is the motivation for that? Jan 11 08:16:00 You mean early USB power? Jan 11 08:16:16 early image Jan 11 08:16:24 on lcd Jan 11 08:16:44 eliasbakken: looks good Jan 11 08:16:54 av500 .. surely you've seen how the RPi boots? Jan 11 08:17:04 with raspbian ofc Jan 11 08:17:53 Well, the motivation in the beginning was to have a logo while flashing the eMMC, but it's also nice to have a logo during boot. Jan 11 08:17:54 veremit: ? Jan 11 08:18:04 eliasbakken: ok Jan 11 08:18:22 av500: perhaps not .. but many arm devices stock image have bootsplashes Jan 11 08:18:45 the beagle is a slightly special case because of the framer and rbg pinmux Jan 11 08:18:48 rgb* Jan 11 08:19:21 veremit: yes, I know that :) Jan 11 08:19:22 u-boot is like 1 or 2s, after that comes kernel fb Jan 11 08:19:35 over the years I came to the conclusion to just skip to kernel and do it there Jan 11 08:19:45 and live with 2s black screen Jan 11 08:20:00 av500: but if you can do it in uboot .. why not!? :P Jan 11 08:20:14 this is the era of fast/quick/now Jan 11 08:20:17 veremit: sure, as long as its not my time :) Jan 11 08:20:30 extra points for making the image transit cleanly between boot and kernel Jan 11 08:20:32 no flicker Jan 11 08:20:42 been there, done that Jan 11 08:20:43 av500: for that we need zmatt :p Jan 11 08:20:46 The new kernels have super slow fb. Jan 11 08:21:05 veremit: did that in the past on davinci and omap3 Jan 11 08:21:22 av500: cool beans Jan 11 08:21:31 today I would spend my time on uboot going away faster Jan 11 08:21:54 problem is, av500 .. the kernel and OS is getting bigger and bigger Jan 11 08:22:17 even if the silicon is supposedly getting faster .. itsnot always the case with arm where you don't have so many options as a desktop pc Jan 11 08:45:51 hi what means Jan 11 08:45:53 root@beaglebone:/lib/modules# cangw -L Jan 11 08:45:53 received msg from unknown family 2 Jan 11 08:47:17 * tbr has NFC what cangw is Jan 11 08:50:59 some-thing typed that .. that # is the prprompt lol Jan 11 08:52:29 tbr: can-utils Jan 11 08:52:58 might be better to ask where can/automotive people hang out then Jan 11 08:57:58 veremit / av500: find me a competent kernel dev who actually understands the whole linux DRM graphics yada and together we'd probably have it fixed in no time :P problem is I know my way around the hardware quite well, can't say the same about the kernel Jan 11 08:58:29 in principle there's no problem at all for linux to take over from u-boot glitch-free Jan 11 08:59:10 zmatt: it was way easier in the past Jan 11 08:59:34 all versions of the current tilcdc driver however are crap, and unnecessarily complicated Jan 11 08:59:36 when both FBs were just a static piece of memory Jan 11 08:59:48 now woth DRM and GPU i guess its more complicated Jan 11 08:59:56 the GPU isn't in the picture Jan 11 09:00:17 or if it is, it's not really important since it just draw to the framebuffer Jan 11 09:00:18 ok Jan 11 09:00:22 *draws Jan 11 09:00:43 saves you a cache flush before handing the pointer to the lcdc Jan 11 09:00:44 tbr, probaly Jan 11 09:01:26 cangw is from socketcan Jan 11 09:02:36 i guess some netfilter kernel modul is missing Jan 11 09:03:33 av500: basically there are two phases to lcdc: config, which can either be done by the kernel (e.g. when using hdmi) or by u-boot with the kernel fishing the config out of lcdc Jan 11 09:04:11 anybody has an idea howto get can0 running on 4.1 Jan 11 09:04:14 3.8 works Jan 11 09:04:25 and feeding it new frames... which is just a matter of a single dword write to update the fb pointers to the latest available frame when receiving the dma interrupt Jan 11 09:04:26 but the dts files changed a lot as far as i can see Jan 11 09:05:55 (and one dma interrupt later the old buffer can be released) Jan 11 09:07:51 ok, does anyone happen to know how to keep the kernel from resetting the ethernet PHY ? Jan 11 09:08:25 since that's now really becoming the bottleneck in startup time Jan 11 09:12:57 ooookay, suddenly an alignment exception in my kernel log... without traceback, and everything still seems to work... o.O Jan 11 11:33:54 I'm trying to get a BBB running with a 5V powerbank. It has 5V and 2.1A and a 5V and 1A output. THe light near the 5V input quickly goes on and off and doesn't work furthermore. Jan 11 11:50:57 The recommended supply current is at least 1.2A (or 6W) Jan 11 11:51:29 http://beagleboard.org/support/faq Jan 11 11:56:13 the power banks need to see a certain load to work properly. it might be that the initial load is too small Jan 11 11:56:32 try attaching some other load that forces the powerbank to switch on Jan 11 14:46:08 Hello, I am setting up a new application using the beaglebone and was wondering about the DM timer allocation Jan 11 14:47:23 Are there timers that are already allocated by the linux OS, TCPIP stack ... Jan 11 14:48:31 Or can I just select any of the DM timers (2-7) for my use Jan 11 16:24:07 Hello. Has anyone had a custom BeagleBone fabricated before? Jan 11 16:27:44 JWVincent, I don't -think- anyone here has gone to that trouble Jan 11 16:30:45 Do you know where I could find someone who has gone to the trouble of fabricating a BeagleBone Black? I'm curious. Jan 11 16:31:11 JWVincent, I don't -think- anyone here has gone to that trouble Jan 11 16:31:27 JWVincent_, you could contact CircuitCo and see what they can tell you. Jan 11 16:44:29 JWVincent_: (if you happen to look through the logs at some point) yes, Worthington Assembly has manufactured custom BeagleBone derivatives for a customer before Jan 11 17:31:30 hi Jan 11 17:40:45 Ok, so I have the splash image loading at power on, IF the boot button is pressed down. Now, how do I keep the framebuffer, the LCDC and the TDA19988 from being reconfigured by the kernel? Jan 11 19:00:31 ping zmatt Jan 11 19:33:38 hi guys I need some help. when i try to boot my bealgbone black this is what i see through the console. http://pastebin.com/r6FQiCxk I can't boot through microsd as the reader doesnt work on the board. can someone help me with this issue? Jan 11 19:41:27 Hello all. Jan 11 19:41:42 I have an older BeagleBoard ( B7 ) that I'm trying to restore and boot Jan 11 19:42:01 I have copied MLO and other files to the SD card, and I can see U-Boot come up in the serial port Jan 11 19:42:12 however, it seems to have a problem with the uimage Jan 11 19:43:02 ** Unable to read "uImage" from mmc 0:1 ** Jan 11 19:58:48 Martyn: there should be images by RCN with recent distributions, probably debian Jan 11 19:59:00 meh Jan 11 20:04:17 wait 5 mins before responding, tbr - Always! Jan 11 20:08:03 http://pastebin.com/r6FQiCxk can anyone help me fix this issue? Jan 11 20:08:41 i had to use BBBfls to mount my beaglebone and dd an image to it but it doesnt boot correctly still Jan 11 20:18:32 mistawright, boot from a clean microSD?! that looks nasty Jan 11 20:21:43 stt_michael, this board doesnt read from microsd cards. the reader is broken or something Jan 11 20:22:27 mistawright, oh dear Jan 11 20:25:39 stt_michael, is there nothing I can do to fix this? Jan 11 20:26:18 I duuno Jan 11 20:45:24 stt_michael, is there a way to upgrade uboot so it doesnt confuse root filesystem when the microsd isnt present? Jan 11 20:45:48 I don't think you can do anything over lfs... Jan 11 20:45:57 because uboot has already happened Jan 11 20:46:24 stt_michael, once the board is booted which i was able to get it to by inserting a card Jan 11 20:46:32 it didnt read from it but it worked Jan 11 20:46:34 you need to be able to access it.. via the debug port Jan 11 20:47:10 I must go home .. but I'll be back in ~30min Jan 11 20:47:51 stt_michael, yeah np. thanks for the help Jan 11 20:49:01 no probs :) sure there's a way .. Jan 11 20:49:13 if zmatt shows up .. he's a fountain of knowledge :D Jan 11 20:54:59 zmatt, helped me fix another board the other day. only thing is its got wierd hardware issue as well where it seems like it only boots when i attempt to remove a cape Jan 11 20:55:07 weirdest thing ever Jan 11 21:26:31 Hello all Jan 11 21:26:38 I need some help with my beagleboard B7 Jan 11 21:26:52 I'd like to load Debian 8.2 on it, but there don't seem to be any prebuilt images Jan 11 21:29:41 Anyone online? Jan 11 21:30:57 stt_michael: BBBlfs can overwrite uboot just fine Jan 11 21:32:36 mistawright: one convern is that you apparently have environment variables stored on eMMC Jan 11 21:32:41 *concern Jan 11 21:33:18 mistawright: but the bigger problem is that uboot passes the wrong root= Jan 11 21:33:47 ... ? Jan 11 21:34:16 Martyn: elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot_lxqt Jan 11 21:34:37 will an image for the beagleboneblack boot on the beaglebone B7? Jan 11 21:34:53 er, beagleboard Jan 11 21:35:22 (OMAP3 based) Jan 11 21:35:36 oh sorry, I have no idea Jan 11 21:37:27 mistawright: a standalone image copied onto eMMC should normally work, so I suspect your saved env vars messing with things Jan 11 21:37:30 *are Jan 11 21:38:03 zmatt, I just used dd and wrote the image to the emmc Jan 11 21:38:20 yeah, except eMMC has two sneaky partitions on the side Jan 11 21:38:26 but if you Jan 11 21:38:28 argh Jan 11 21:38:34 but if you're in initramfs then you can clear them Jan 11 21:38:37 zmatt, can I not update that partition once booted? Jan 11 21:39:01 I don't remember if env is stored on /dev/mmcblk0boot0 or boot1 Jan 11 21:39:03 zmatt, I have board up and running with the help of inserting a microsd card even though it fails to read it. that got me booting Jan 11 21:39:30 you can clear them both, but there's some sysfs var you need to toggle before linux will let you Jan 11 21:40:27 it's also a good idea to put uuid= in /boot/uEnv.txt Jan 11 21:41:02 but I gotto go catch a train, will be back later if you haven't found the sysfs var yes (I don't know its precise location off the top of my head) Jan 11 21:41:17 zmatt, I'm not sure how to find my uuid as I normally stay away from uuid Jan 11 21:41:19 then just cat /dev/zero over those mmcblk0boot* Jan 11 21:41:33 blkid /dev/mmcblk0p1 Jan 11 21:41:49 will do thanks for the help Jan 11 21:42:01 will probably be hanging around at work for another or two Jan 11 21:44:55 I can't find a debian 8.2 uImage anywhere Jan 11 21:45:05 I need the uImage and a rootfs.. right? Jan 11 21:51:51 Martyn, http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian find them here Jan 11 21:52:00 follow instructions. not too hard Jan 11 22:24:56 mistawright : You know what? I did. Jan 11 22:25:06 mistawright : And since I have a beagleboard B7 -- they don't work Jan 11 22:25:25 beagleboard MLO + u-boot can't boot that image ( vmlinuz vs uImage, for one ) Jan 11 22:25:38 I've been trying to get this beagleboard to boot Jan 11 22:26:12 ???? Jan 11 22:26:17 just build a uImage Jan 11 22:26:25 ds2 : I need a linux system .. which I don't have Jan 11 22:26:30 if the bootloader dejour wants to eat a uImage, build one :D Jan 11 22:26:39 upgrade to a Linux system! Jan 11 22:26:55 Well, I'm trying to .. but unfortunately it doens't boot .. Jan 11 22:26:59 *points at the beagleboard* Jan 11 22:27:14 you have the BeagleBoard Classic? Jan 11 22:27:29 or BeagleBoard xM? Jan 11 22:27:35 and as far as I've been able to determine, the state of ARM cross compiling tools is .. poor Jan 11 22:27:42 Beagleboard B7 Jan 11 22:27:51 With a TinCanTools Ethernet cape Jan 11 22:28:24 ah Jan 11 22:28:35 why not download a working angstrom image for it? Jan 11 22:29:12 Ah, there's the rub. I did boot an angstrom image, but I require a Debian image ( jessie ) to do the work I want to do. Jan 11 22:29:24 I thought it would be relatively simple tell you the truth. Jan 11 22:29:31 Oh Jan 11 22:29:35 Download .img file X, dd it onto an SD card, and boot Jan 11 22:29:39 but .. this is getting to be silly Jan 11 22:29:49 the debian images are sort of a mess :D Jan 11 22:29:53 also, the angstrom images are gone from the angstrom site Jan 11 22:29:54 they changed it Jan 11 22:30:05 ds2 : No kidding Jan 11 22:30:42 disclosure: not a debian fan Jan 11 22:32:05 tried the C5/D images? they should be backward compatible Jan 11 22:32:13 they are not hosted on the angstrom site Jan 11 22:32:26 That's the one I'm working with now Jan 11 22:32:33 but there is no uImage, so it doesn't seem to work Jan 11 22:32:53 you taking it apart or? Jan 11 22:33:02 Yeah, loop mounted it Jan 11 22:33:04 should be able to dd it to a blank card Jan 11 22:33:14 copied the contents to the two partitions on the SD card Jan 11 22:33:23 I should? Jan 11 22:33:30 yeah Jan 11 22:33:33 but doesn't it need a FAT partition to boot the beagleboard? Jan 11 22:33:42 this is how it works Jan 11 22:33:53 on power on, there is a ROM on the processor. it runs and looks for a place to boot Jan 11 22:34:27 To make sure w Jan 11 22:34:32 it looks for a hashed filed; old docs call it x-loader, new docs call it spl Jan 11 22:34:41 we're on the same page -- which images are you referring to? The one I found just contained a rootFS Jan 11 22:34:47 that file if placed on the bootsector of the NAND flash will result on it getting loaded Jan 11 22:34:56 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoard Jan 11 22:36:23 beagle-rev-c5-3.2GB-r1.img.zip ? Jan 11 22:36:32 IIRC, those images have an updated bootloader to support newer memory chips but should also be able to support the old ones unless someone broke stuff Jan 11 22:36:34 yeah Jan 11 22:36:54 That's a different image to the one I tried. Jan 11 22:36:59 I'll give it a go Jan 11 22:37:07 do I need to hold "USER" when powering up? Jan 11 22:37:16 yes Jan 11 22:37:23 unless you are sure the NAND bootsector is cleared Jan 11 22:37:29 It's not. Jan 11 22:37:41 and I know I've written to the NVRAM Jan 11 22:37:43 the ROM checks NAND first unless USER is held down (it changes a boot pin to tell the ROM to search in a different order) Jan 11 22:37:52 okay Jan 11 22:37:53 oh Jan 11 22:37:58 you might need to clear NVRAM Jan 11 22:38:27 some developers do not believe in the existance of the NVRAM and make bad assumptions. Jan 11 22:38:33 >urk< Jan 11 22:38:38 Well, lets see what happens Jan 11 22:38:45 I've almost finished downloading the image. Jan 11 22:38:53 and it looks like a big one .. uncompresses to ~4G? Jan 11 22:39:43 yes Jan 11 22:45:26 okay .. uncompressing Jan 11 22:45:28 lets see what happens Jan 11 22:45:44 This is Debian 7.x? Jan 11 22:45:48 (Wheezy?) Jan 11 22:48:51 not sure, things has been in flux Jan 11 22:49:10 AFAIK, you can still use angstrom, but I donno the site off hand. worse case is you can build it ;) Jan 11 22:49:35 debian is fine :p Jan 11 22:50:01 veremit : Do you know of a prebuilt 8.2 image that will boot on a BeagleBoard B7? Jan 11 22:50:18 okay, copying the image to a 4GB SD card using DD Jan 11 22:50:21 all of the official images are tested on allthe beagle family Jan 11 22:50:24 takes ~20 mins Jan 11 22:50:45 if you're ok with Wheezy .. use http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2015-11-03 Jan 11 22:51:15 if you want jessie .. I've flashed mine with .. http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot_lxqt Jan 11 22:51:38 or the one before .. that's 2016 I see Jan 11 23:11:36 veremit : OK Jan 11 23:11:49 I just tried to boot the image ds2 pointed to --- no luck Jan 11 23:12:00 Am I right in thinking that the BBG can act as a USB host and USB Gadget (device) at the same time? Jan 11 23:13:26 Jakdaw: see no reason why not Jan 11 23:13:53 okay, after erasing the NAND and rebooting, I get this: Jan 11 23:14:02 [ 16.427764] ---[ end trace 72f77257c740c3f3 ]--- Jan 11 23:14:03 [ 16.432434] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt Jan 11 23:14:21 [ 15.800140] Power Management for TI OMAP3. Jan 11 23:14:21 [ 15.805603] Division by zero in kernel. Jan 11 23:14:50 yikes Jan 11 23:15:00 rebooting Jan 11 23:15:02 Nope, same thing Jan 11 23:15:42 since I have a beagleboard B7, which one of those images should I use, veremit ? Jan 11 23:16:16 beagleboard X15? beagleboneblack? Jan 11 23:18:00 b7 .. is that a white pcb .. altoids tin size or black ? Jan 11 23:18:10 you won't have an x15 yet .. only a handful been made :) Jan 11 23:18:20 red PCB, basically the same as the C series Jan 11 23:18:44 Martyn: what does it do? Jan 11 23:18:58 clarify? Jan 11 23:19:04 whoa Jan 11 23:19:15 If I press "user" it tries to boot but crashes Jan 11 23:19:16 its broken(tm) Jan 11 23:19:32 but it did rewrite NAND and installed/wrote boot parameters Jan 11 23:19:34 Martyn: can you paste bin the entire serial console from power up? Jan 11 23:19:44 kernel shouldn't be dividing by zero Jan 11 23:19:47 Yes.. which pastebin do you prefer? Jan 11 23:19:51 ubuntu's? Jan 11 23:19:53 pick one Jan 11 23:19:55 erm, not directly here Jan 11 23:19:58 lol Jan 11 23:19:59 as long as it is open ;) Jan 11 23:20:44 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14473334/ Jan 11 23:21:17 image written to SD card is : beagle-rev-c5-3.2GB-r1.img Jan 11 23:21:44 reading... Jan 11 23:23:22 it is unhappy with the OPP selection Jan 11 23:23:59 do you know how to edit the kernel command line? if so, try removing mpurate=auto Jan 11 23:24:16 I can Jan 11 23:25:10 hmm .. mpurate doesn't look defined Jan 11 23:25:35 check to see if it is defined in uEnv.txt Jan 11 23:25:41 chekcing Jan 11 23:25:52 cuz if you look at the bootlog, it has mpurate=auto set Jan 11 23:26:08 aha! it's in mmcargs Jan 11 23:26:44 what can the mpurate be set to other than auto? Jan 11 23:27:24 donno off hand Jan 11 23:27:35 give me a sec Jan 11 23:28:15 settenv erage mpurate Jan 11 23:28:22 seteenv erase mpurate rather Jan 11 23:28:24 try mpurate=720 on a revb Jan 11 23:30:43 Still a panic Jan 11 23:30:44 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14473397/ Jan 11 23:36:03 division by zero in the kernel, cool, never seen that one before Jan 11 23:38:19 The net has some information on it .. but no root cause or solutions Jan 11 23:38:24 I've been googling while we look at it Jan 11 23:38:44 Shall I try a different image from http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot_lxqt ? Jan 11 23:39:01 try removing the mpurate all together Jan 11 23:39:03 and if so -- since this is a beagleboard B7 --- which one should I attempt? Jan 11 23:39:24 somehow the PM code isn't liking your HW Jan 11 23:39:54 Martyn.. you got this one yes .. http://beagleboard.org/beagleboard ? Jan 11 23:40:39 bingo -- Jan 11 23:40:39 wow, the very first kind too!? Jan 11 23:40:46 still a kernel panic Jan 11 23:41:24 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14473461/ Jan 11 23:41:26 oo ek, right .. I don't think these flasher builds will work .. the nand is too small Jan 11 23:42:20 Martyn: you can run a 'standalone' image .. any will do Jan 11 23:42:24 It's not going to flash the nand by default, is it? Doesn't it run from SD card by default? Jan 11 23:42:47 I'm not sure about the red beagle . on the black, you hold the 'boot' button by the uSD slot when you plug power in Jan 11 23:44:10 Well, lets see Jan 11 23:44:16 downloading standalone image Jan 11 23:44:41 isn't that an omap3 board? the am3530? Jan 11 23:45:25 yes Jan 11 23:45:43 I downloaded : bone-debian-8.2-lxqt-4gb-armhf-2016-01-10-4gb.img.xz Jan 11 23:45:50 kernel panic refers to omap2 .. odd .. Jan 11 23:46:35 bad build? Jan 11 23:46:44 Well, we'll see in a moment Jan 11 23:46:56 uncompressing the image, and copying it to the SD card Jan 11 23:49:45 I wish this went faster Jan 11 23:50:36 Aha .. I've found .. http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ Jan 11 23:52:04 from the beagleboard.org site: "To rebuild the Angstrom Distribution images, see the Building Angstrom page. The shipped image is currently 'cloud9-gnome-image'." Jan 11 23:52:14 yay! I'll burn that as a last resort -- since I need to do debian development Jan 11 23:52:41 Martyn: you'll need a console image .. as 2-4gb won't fit on a 512mb nand ;) Jan 11 23:53:00 Hmm? Jan 11 23:53:17 But I don't want to burn anything to the NAND.. can't I run directly from SD? Jan 11 23:53:22 rootFS on SD? Jan 11 23:53:26 the nand on the beagleboard is MUCH smaller than the old beaglebone black or even the new beaglebone which is 4gb Jan 11 23:53:38 yes, you can run direct off uSD of course Jan 11 23:54:00 its always a good backup plan :) Jan 11 23:54:35 I -think- these images from the angstrom site may be the "right" ones for your board, if you wanted to try them. Jan 11 23:54:55 I'm tempted to download/unpack one ..but I don't think I've got enough spare disk capacity mounted: / Jan 11 23:56:25 yeah.. Jan 11 23:56:31 I just finished burning the image to my SD card Jan 11 23:56:41 and all it comes up wth is "40V" Jan 11 23:56:46 and no other output Jan 11 23:56:57 after running a nand erase.chip to clear the nvram Jan 11 23:57:18 :/ Jan 11 23:57:22 PITA Jan 11 23:57:26 What's "40V"? Jan 11 23:57:34 * veremit shrugs .. dunno Jan 11 23:58:43 Very Odd, I'd say Jan 12 00:03:48 downloading the Beagleboard demo image Jan 12 00:03:54 I really, REALLY don't want to run Angstrom though :() Jan 12 00:20:58 anyjoy? Jan 12 00:22:57 NONE Jan 12 00:23:13 I hate to say it .. but this thing may be "bricked" bricked Jan 12 00:23:19 All it prints is 40V, 40V Jan 12 00:24:34 that must mean something Jan 12 00:24:44 any yet you got a partial boot even with a kernel panic before Jan 12 00:24:53 and* yet Jan 12 00:26:44 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/VZfw9MkjUEY/vHe6acMbp3EJ Jan 12 00:26:47 I get the same result as this guy did Jan 12 00:26:52 after doing an nvram erase.chip Jan 12 00:28:28 Martyn: have you seen http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnostics .. perhaps you wanna follow that through? Jan 12 00:31:18 Martyn: also http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery Jan 12 00:35:33 Still printing 40V Jan 12 00:35:37 -thinks- Jan 12 00:36:37 BRB -- rebooting Jan 12 00:46:47 Figured it out, kind of Jan 12 00:46:47 corrupted SD card Jan 12 00:47:17 lol now -thats- typical Jan 12 00:47:36 okay so i was trying to download the old debian/angstrom images to load on the BBB to see how things had changed Jan 12 00:47:49 but the old images don't have anything in the boot directory Jan 12 00:47:53 anyone know what gives? Jan 12 00:48:13 ayjay - they used a totalyl different boot process Jan 12 00:51:16 hasn't the whole uEnv.txt thing been around since the beginning? Jan 12 00:51:23 no Jan 12 00:51:41 the original beagleboard did not have uEnv.txt, and it can't support loading vmlinuz files directly Jan 12 00:51:49 you have to have uImage formatted kernels Jan 12 00:52:16 so they are loaded from MMC Jan 12 00:52:19 and the uEnv data was compiled into a boot.scr binary file Jan 12 00:52:29 or saved to the NAND Jan 12 00:52:49 which is what I'm running into Jan 12 00:52:55 and saved in nand :) Jan 12 00:53:01 Older hardware shouldn't be forgotten :) Jan 12 00:53:13 wait wait wait wait so I can't just burn the images on to a uSD and hold the boot button to flash the eMMC? Jan 12 00:53:29 on a beagleboard? -=-what-=- emmc :) Jan 12 00:53:34 SORRY Jan 12 00:53:35 The things don't have much ... Jan 12 00:53:43 no i said BBB Jan 12 00:53:49 Ohhhh ... BBB Jan 12 00:54:22 ayjay .. you could run into problems fast-forwarding and fast-reversing between versions .. forward you're probably ok, but can't guarantee going back will work Jan 12 00:55:07 veremit: i got my BBB 2+ years ago so I think it'll work with 2013 images Jan 12 00:55:31 Official releases are here: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2015-11-03 Jan 12 00:55:59 veremit: the bonescript library doesn't work out of the box with the new debian image so i'm looking to fork and request a pull on it but I want to do some double checking on the versions thats why I'm trying to use the old images Jan 12 00:56:02 most recent updates with new Debian Jessie are here: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot_lxqt Jan 12 00:56:42 ah I don't think anyone here can help with bonescript Jan 12 00:56:58 you probably want to switch to #beagle-bonescript channel Jan 12 00:57:03 well, that's fine, but i was really surprised that on http://beagleboard.org/latest-images the images (except the newest) have no uEnv.txt file Jan 12 00:57:25 yeah I wouldn't entirely trust the latest-images link .. Jan 12 00:57:34 ah is that the way it is? Jan 12 00:58:43 although .. perhaps jkridner has fixed that page up properly now .. Jan 12 00:59:03 it looks MUCH better than it was Jan 12 01:00:32 sigh I was excited that there was an official bonescript channel but I am not its sole inhabitant Jan 12 01:00:34 although RN has trumped it on the elinux wiki lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 12 02:59:59 2016